Did Mark Kozelek understand Modest Mouse better than Isaac Brock? How did he take these insignificant songs and make them into masterpieces?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBUxLQ41rQshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiaRmpJ_iIc
>>129819886Yeah Koz owns these songs. Exit does not exist too.
>>129819886He also did Morrissey's shtick better for the duration of this album but nobody here is ready for that convo. I'm not impressed with Moz's vocals or lyrics in comparison, maybe it's just because I've listened to the Smiths for so long. DCH is what I expect for the lyrics that it has. Not janglepop.
>>129819973>DCH is what I expect for the lyrics that it has. Not janglepop.homosexual vs heterosexual conditioningDCH is what you get from a depressive who listens to ACDC and not diana ross
I love this grumpy, depressed, self-absorbed, STD infested, hypocritical, self-destructive, sociopathic, spiteful, curmudgeon more than life itself bros. He's so good. The dying voice of sincerity.
>>129820024He's a narcissistic sex pest, but who gives a shit? What does that have to do with music?
>>129820024Id say lately Mark isnt depressed. hes been in good spirits whenver I see him live. hes grateful to be selling out venues again.
>>129820040Calm down sweetie *kisses you on the forehead*>>129820044That's awful. I like my Kozelek miserable and misanthropic. I think he likes it that way too.
>>129820055he deserves to be happy
>>129819886>Man shot to the moon>I read a paperback and I want to come home soon>I'm shot to the moon>Been there a half an hour and I want to come home soon>I'm shot to the moon
>>129820060There are things far more beautiful than happiness
>>129819886The fucking KOZ baby! That's my fucking guy and i dont give a shit what he did, the motherfucker is a legend.
>>129820060no one deserves to be happy
>>129819886Biggest dick in indie
>>129819973You only think this because you're a fucking moron as evidenced by the other thread you made slurping Mark's cock. Mark has never and will never write a lyric as poignant and perfect as Moz. He will also never sing as well as Moz but you keep telling yourself this bullshit
>>129819886What is with the Mark Kozelek overhyping? He's good but lost any sort of brilliance he had years ago.
>>129822484this. Benji was his last good album
duk koo kim is sun kil moon’s only good song. not even comparable to the genius that is modest mouse
>>129822484>What is with the Mark Kozelek overhyping? He's good but lost any sort of brilliance he had years agothis thread is about a record from more than 20 years ago so what does your retarded post even have to do with this thread
>>129822941There have been a handful of these threads sucking him off. All worded the exact same way. It's almost as if some sperg just discovered him. And it's relevant to just that. Mark hasn't released a single thing worth listening to in going on a fucking decade. He's not the GOAT. He's not even in contention. He's certainly not better than Modest Mouse so, again, why the overhyping? I like his music just fine but get real.
>>129822998>Mark hasn't released a single thing worth listening to in going on a fucking decadeThis thread is about a record from 22 years ago>There have been a handful of these threads sucking him offI havent made a thread about Mark in months>It's almost as if some sperg just discovered himIve been listening to Mark since Admiral Fell Promisesin conclusion: sybau
>>129823098Doesn't matter when a record comes out, asshole. It can still be overhyped to hell and back which is clearly the case here. Sorry this hurts your feelings.
>>129823185You keep moaning about his last albums being not good when this album is from 22 years ago. What's the relevance? You probably retardedly didnt even realize this is an old album.
>>129823261I never said this album isn't good. His early work is quite good. I enjoy it a lot. Turning into a fat fuck who bitches about his Panera Bread order and wanting to talk in his shitty mumble voice instead of singing is pure trash though. And the point is the overhyping. It's good but see the first two comments here... It's not that good. Sorry this caused you to meltdown but it's true. Mark has been a hack for 10 plus years.
>>129823352insulting mark while you jack off modest mouse who havent made a good album in 26 years and are embarrassingly doing nostalgia tours while looking worse than mark lololcaping this hard for a band with three total good albums rofl
>>129823376Modest Mouse's highs are higher than anything RHP or Sun Kil Moon have ever done. And they still fell off hard. I'm not claiming they're the GOAT like certain retards in this thread are saying about Mark. Talented guy who just completely fucking lost it but I have a feeling he could shit on your face and you'd thank him for it.
>>129823416>Modest Mouse's highs are higher than anything RHP or Sun Kil Moon have ever doneHahahaha, "We'll all float on!" Great song if all you listen to is AM radio.
>>129823462>cherry picking from their sellout album to make a pointSomehow still better than listening to Mark's lard ass make a grocery list over some of his most mid guitar playing. You lost, man. Move on.
>>129823490>from their sellout album to make a pointBuddy, that album was their highpoint of the last quarter century.
>>129823531That's usually what a sellout album does to a band so your point is?
>>129823539Thank you for asking. My point? My point is... *ahem*Mark Kozelek > your favorite landfill pseudo-emo cringe AM radio rock
>>129823580You lost HARD. Your embarrassing coping isn't making this any better.
>>129823639A retard shitted up my thread the other dayWell I just laughed it off, 'cuz he was bumping my thread all the wayWe'll all float on
>>129819886I do like this but it's important not to praise Mark Kozelek because he believes every bit of hype about himself, he needs to be humbled so he can make something decent again
>>129819886he just noticed brock's lyrics were great but lost in the way he sang/the style of music he played, so he stripped the songs back singer/songwriter styleworked out great but it's not that much different than when a pop whore does a stripped back version of an old hit like lorde's "everybody wants to rule the world"
>>129822401>never write a lyric as poignant and perfect as Moz.You can't be serious. Morrissey doesn't even write his own music and his lyrics are something out of a melodramatic teenager's diary without the music to back it up. Not that I'm defending Mark's post-2014 rambling Panera Bread shit, but DCH is in fact better than anything the Smiths/Morrissey ever did. Scaruffi agrees. Not sure why you're so offended by this, you have to be either gay or british to think Morrissey is some sort of lyrical or musical genius
>>129824219Just say Moz's writing went over your head. Mark isn't mentally capable of writing anything on Moz's level. There's a reason he has consistently heralded as one of if not the greatest lyricist of all time I don't give a fuck what Scaruffi thinks.
>>129819886i love his cover of math equation, rest of that album doesn't do too much for me though but it's a fun listen. I grew up with all those modest mouse songs so I can't even compare them. It's really just the lyrics and sometimes the vocal cadence that carries over so they're just different songs to mekozelek is goodmodest mouse is goodsmiths are good:)
>>129824265>There's a reason he has consistently heralded as one of if not the greatest lyricist of all timeI don't think there's a single serious person who thinks this.I'm always astonished by how bad his lyrics can be given how much he larps being a hyper-literate Oscar Wilde devotee.
>>129824396Again, just say it all went over your head. You know nothing about his work and your parroting shit other retards have spewed on here to make up for the fact it also went over their heads.
>>129824422I dont think its possible for Moz's lyrics to go over anyone's head
>>129824476Not enough mentions of not being able to drive a car or going to Panera to keep you interested?
>>129824508I guess I just dont relate to the homosexuality
>>129824567Weird thing to say as a homosexual yourself but people are complicated
>>129823837Didn't you say you hadn't made a Mark thread in months a couple posts ago?
>>129824307>kozelek is good>modest mouse is good>smiths are goodBASED
>>129824750Before this one, imbecilethank you for the bump
>>129826763You're awful testy
>>129826838on the contraryI appreciate you
Mark GODzelek
Is there actually a zoomer so fucking dumb they feel motivated to defend Fatissey and modest mouse hahahahaha…. https://youtu.be/g4_BQdVsu0odefend wacko jacko now.
>>129823416Katy Song > Anything Modest Mouse
>>129829195Go to bed, Muhammad. Mark's a fat hack whose best stuff was never worth having threads about anyway.
ive listened to Red House Painters for years but never got into Sun Kil Moon, these good covers have made me change my tune, what are the best albums I shouldn't miss out on from that project
>>129829268Ghosts On The Great Highway, It's the most like RHP. Kind off falls off after.
What Kozelek should I listen to if I like RHP, loved Ghosts and especially loved Carry Me Ohio and Salvador Sanchez, and San Geromino from Ocean Beach?
WELL ALL THE APOSTLES THEY'RE SITTING IN SWINGS
>>129829355Late 2000s Jesu
>>129829375But doctor, I already listen to Jesu...
>>129829380Idk then man. Snow Patrol?
>>129829205Did Mark have sex with your girlfriend? Can't imagine being this assblasted by him otherwise. Either that or you're Laura Snapes.
It's so fucking goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqN-iCPp5UQ
>>129829423The one good song off that album.
>>129829427Holy shit tasteThe whole album is great>have you forgotten>how to love yourself;-;
>>129829355>>129829268If you like RHP and Ghosts then just listen to all the other stuff he put out around that time.Rock N Roll Singer EPWhat's Next to the Moon LPNights LPTiny Cities LP
>>129829431That song is girlslop man
>>129829479>crack open album>it's guitarslop
>>129829486Hand me a Sun Kil Moon album and I'm cracking it for real.
>>129829355no Benji? whatever ts called
>>129819973Morissey has never written anything more gay than Michael
>>129834698God forbid a man loves his bro
