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Honest thoughts on rap?
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It's alright. Has a lot of potentia still.
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I think ultimately the problem is that blacks made rap their entire identity. You see plenty of whites for example dismissing typical white genres like punk, and so whenever people shit on rap music, the black community at large took it personally, and ultimately it was their ill-fated attempts at making it a "serious" genre that killed it, whereas instead they could've spent more time and effort promoting real serious black genres like Jazz or R&B/Soul instead, or alternatively they didn't have to make any genre their whole identity and could've fostered real black rockstars
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Fascinating. Can you turn it off?
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>>129825571
its for dumb niggers

black people had something going on with jazz then it perished and now they got this dogshit of fake poetry with zero musical skill involved that is so easy that it can be mass produced or AI generated in less than 1 minute assuming you got Zuno
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>>129825792
what makes it fake?
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>>129825656
Black guys get trapped in these expectations too much, being a singer is gay, but a rapper that's cool. Playing instruments and being a real songwriter seems to have fallen off in their culture
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its mostly really boring and predictable
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>>129825839
Hate to say it but it feels like it's mostly whites who appreciate them doing their more highbrow historical genres nowadays, be it blues, jazz or soul. They might no longer care for that appreciation.
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>>129825810
its retarded and it ryhmes bitch with nigga and nigga with hoe like 90% of the time, pure garbage genre for manchildren trying to be tough. If you still listen to rap at 30 years old I laugh at you, deadbeat and broke as fuck good for nothing
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>>129825571
It's not my thing but I like the Nietzschean will-to-power ethic of some of it, this song really has it and the weird Enya soundscapes in the background are great
https://youtu.be/QM9xgHibvzM
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A lot of rap videos are filmed at night but Nipsey Hussle's videos were often filmed in daylight. I like his line "white boy in Manhattan pay my tax." It's not based on resentment.
https://youtu.be/_4LsQ_kdLh0
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its fun sometimes. i hate the intellectual posturing. this shit started as block party music and it should have stayed that way
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>>129825898
This is a huge problem too, its like they take pride in dumbing themselves down. Im actually kind of concerned
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>>129825571
Rap existed until The second Wu Tang album showed us that no, they would not forever drop iconic tracks. They would instead bitch about islam.
Then people called themselves "lil" and took xanax.
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>>129827250
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaJROxEmTY8
They still hit sometimes.
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>>129825571
overhated
not the art form's fault that its associated with retards
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>>129825571
it's great https://youtu.be/b-Z04iEGY44
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Fun fact. Tim Russ played Robert Johnson at the beginning of Crossroads.
https://youtu.be/VyjRschuAyU?list=RDVyjRschuAyU&t=38
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>>129828690
He also plays guitar irl and has his own band
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I'm really, really pissed off a G-funk/Golden age West Coast hip-hop revival never happened even though it had some templates in 2016-17:
https://youtu.be/qva2wQSGla8?
https://youtu.be/kqnj60sTXJY?
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>>129825839
this and its fucking crazy since 80% of jazz was based blacks being amazing at an instrument
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I love how brutally sexual and hedonistic it is. I think that rock music could learn a thing or two from it, but it stops there. Our core values are just not the same.
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I think that rap as a genre and as a movement, have a lot of undertones of domination and submission, and this makes it dark. It appeals to a darker side of human nature that our society ignored, rejected and warred against. And I guess it's our society's way of coping with those value sets, in a world that knows it's wrong.
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>>129830000
>I think that rock music could learn a thing or two from it
Hip-Hop got it from rock, disco, and funk. Rock in general is dead and hip-hop is dying too because Gen-Z is much more wistful, sad, and isolated than the other postwar gens were.
>>129825839
>Playing instruments and being a real songwriter seems to have fallen off in their culture
It's also because of digitization, this isn't just a Black problem even if it's disproportionately affected the quality of hip-hop compared to other genres. That's also why producers have become such a commodity here than in any other genre, Pi'erre Bourne being a prime example of how Carti would be irrelevant or mediocre at best without him.
>>129825898
>it's mostly whites who appreciate them doing their more highbrow historical genres nowadays
That's because this stuff is taught as high American culture in Universities and are thus seen as genres for elites who tend to put it on a pedestal over "White" genres, which are seen as hick or lower class coded.



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