Why does Hetfield get a pass for his terribad voice and lyrics because he was an integral part of the band's sound and vibe since the beginning and it's not his fault his voice doesn't mesh with the gay butt rock they started playing in the 90s, but Kiedis gets treated like the band's Ringo and Yoko rolled into one for basically the same thing?
>>129838228Hetfield's voice and lyrics are both good and you got filtered
>>129838228He played all the rhythm guitars on the records and carries live. That's why.Second best downpicker just behind Johnny Ramone.
First two replies are right not to mention that Kiedis makes shitty gay pseudo funk about one of the most soulless places on earth to try and keep phony Americana alive in a time where people were rightfully dismissing it. He’s also still a pedophile. I really can’t think of a single redeeming quality he has
>>129838653I DON'T EVER WANNA FEELHOW I DID THAT DAY
>>129838692compare toAND THE DIRT STILL STAINS MESO WASH MEUNTIL I'M CLEAN
>>129838228It's hard to belt like James Hetfield did, even as an ostensible baritone.It isn't hard to sing any RHCP song.
>I'm inside, open your eyes>I'm you!wow holy shit
>>129838835articulating give it away give it away give it away now has a fun mouthfeel
>>129838835also Cher belting from contralto is far more impressive and impossible to replicate but I don't know why anyone would want to
>>129838835James really is a great singer
because rhcp without Anthony sounds amazingMetallica sounds shit because of lars
points for acknowledging the song's greatness and trying to pull it off, I guesshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNYi7gJDX3k
>>129838900Lars' studio drumming was good. His live drumming was mediocre at his peak and now it's just terrible. I pulled up a 2025 video and his double bass is painful. People pay for this? I would be ashamed if I gave a performance that bad. Not to mention the fact that Lars has been playing these songs for 40 fucking years.https://youtu.be/SQ0uqF3ylNEBut the rest of the band also stagnated after the Black Album, so I can't really pick on Lars in particular.
>>129838850your mom had a fun mouthfeel last night>>129838895DOES HE LOVE ME I WANNA KNOOOOOWWWW
>>129838936"studio drumming" is just the best take you could possibly pull off, or the best bits from all the takes stitched together, or focusing very hard on just the double bass and dubbing in the rest of the kit later, or can they even prove it wasn't me on the take, and if they could what can they do about it when I'm the money guy
>>129838982Well the parts are good at least, and that's what matters. I wouldn't say Lars' 80s drumming held the band back in any way, and it's not like James or Kirk are evolving as musicians. Studying Bach and learning tech death so they can make the greatest metal masterpiece to grace the earth. Yeah fucking right.
Dani California is literally their only good song
>>129838228>Why does Hetfield get a passHe doesn't. Only rednecks like him.
>>129838228Metallica started out as a thrash metal band, which was edgy and counter culture for the time. Taking inspiration from hardcore punk, the band being late teens, very early 20s, it made sense that Hetfield would sing like shit. He was also playing rhythm guitar so good singing was an afterthought because the fastness, intensity, and riffing was what mattered. RHCP started out as a weird experimental funk metal rock band that became more melodic and alternative over time. Anthony never developed a good singing voice and it makes every time he croons on a track sound like the Rick Rubin production they had on Californication
>>129838936>>129838982>It usually took two or three days to lay down a perfect foundation for each individual track, as we recorded about 20 seconds at a time. And because we wanted the precision you hear on the album, it took a very long time to lay down the foundations. I did loads of editing. What we actually did was create a Pro Tools album entirely in analogue. Lars might have played 20 seconds that sounded fantastic – great feel, steady tempo and good groove – but then there was one beat that wasn’t quite right. So I’d cut the tape and paste in a beat that was right. It could take an age. After three or four days we’d have a drum track finished, and only then were we ready to lay down the guitar and bass. Flemming Rasmussen on making ...And Justice for All
>>129839327Why didn't he just practice?
>>129839341Chad did that and his hair fell out
>>129839347TELL ME ABOUT CHADWHY DOES HE WEAR THE HAT
I saw them live during the Death Magnetic tour and I thought that album was pretty ok.
i think dj spooky was sort of mocking alcohol dad’s vocals in his spawn remix https://youtu.be/n0IJderpZVg
>>129838525>muh downstrokesnot hard to do. and Hetfield is way better at it than Johnny Ramone who cheats and takes a break frequently on the 2nd eight note
>>129838228James is an excellent rhythm guitarist and songwriter while Kiedis is only a singer and relies on his guitarists to do the heavy songwriting workOn top of that, James's vocals are competing with guys like Paul Baloff and Dave Mustaine who are both less talented and more goofy sounding (to most people), while as a stadium rock star Kiedis gets compared to both pop singers (who mog him) and classic rock singers (who also mog him)
>>129838228This guy Keidis got Mr Bungle thrown off festivals because he didnt like when Mr Bungle was in Faith No More because he thought he was ripping him off. Then Bungle was pissed and did a concert playing RHCP songs and mocking Kiedis
>>129841440The way you wrote this is as confusing as the situation you described, like did he not know who Mike Patton is?
jack and slovak > chad and frusc
>>129838228Wait people think that about Hetfeild? He's the example of how vocals are supposed to sound when it comes to Thrash. the other 3 fucking suck.
BARGAINS
>>129847971Tom is the best on the early Slayer albums that aren't really thrash, but the peak thrash vocal is Mark Osegueda on the Kerry King record
>>129848023I like Natalie Imbruglia's version better
>>129848042Stop telling me you're lying naked on the floor, that's gross, even Dean the Absolute Madman was wearing clothes
>>129848083Oh, so it's okay when Rivers Cuomo does it, but when I do it it's gross?
>>129848146I told Cuomo to stop it but he doesn't listen to me since I knocked up Mary Tyler Moore
>>129848160I don't care what you say about him anyway
>>129838228Because James at least had a point in his career where his yelling and snarling fit the music he was playing.Keidis was always dogshit even in his smack addicted pedo-groupie prime. RHCP was always a meme band where the joke stopped being funny, even when they tried to be serious.Also, James knows how to play an instrument and write songs. Keidis can't play anything and, literally punk-funk David Lee Roth.
>>129848423metalfags don't appreciate the prowess of Diamond Dave because their bands can hardly play live let alone perform
>>129848600 (checked)Dave at least could sound good record. Keidis has zero range no matter who's producing.
Anthony “ants in the pants” Kiedis.
>>129838228Because ANTHONY KIEDIS IS A JUNKIE!
>>129848934A NOODLE SCHWANZ
