Is learning acoustic guitar first more advantageous later in your journey?>Used to think acoustic was easier than electric only to be proven wrongSince acoustic is harder then electric ,does it mean I'd get an advantage over those that started out with electric? Or am I dumbfounded?(Like if I were to switch over to electric right now, which I eventually would like to do)
>>129844427If by acoustic you mean classical then maybe. Otherwise no, just learn electric.
>>129844427Fwd. Would eventually like to learn bass as well.Had previous experience with violin briefly.
>>129844476I have a steel-string.
>>129844500No, just learn on the electric. The playing style is identical, so you'll get nothing from playing on the acoustic. I'd say learning on electric is actually better because you'll get used to playing both clean and with distortion. The former is pretty much identical to steel string acoustic and the latter is a whole new thing.
>>129844508What I mean by advantage is because my fingers would be adapted to moving around on thicker strings? If going onto lighter strings it would be much faster.
>>129844541No, that doesn't really confer much of an advantage. If you really wanted you could just buy thicker electric strings, but it won't make you any faster than just practicing speed day in and day out on the electric will. What kind of music do you want to play?
>>129844541In other words I meant finger strength over sound when it came to advantages.
>>129844563Eventually would like to play metal music of some sort. Probably extreme variants.
>>129844573You really only need finger strength for bends. Anything else is much more about being nimble.
>>129844585Like tech death? Yeah don't hamper yourself on the acoustic, you'll have no motivation. You also need to work on handling distortion early. Need to make sure your palm muting and pinch harmonics are good, can't practice that on an acoustic.
>>129844597Of coarse. It is just not having the money to buy an electric guitar at the moment.
>>129844608You can learn some stuff on the acoustic but I basically didn't progress at all until I got an electric. The most useful acoustic guitar to learn with for metal would be far and away classical.
Acoustic for 6 months. Then electric.
>>129844626Although I could try & sell my acoustic along with other stuff to help get an electric somewhere. Of coarse it would have to be second hand. Thank you Anon.
They sound different and typically fulfill a different function. Some things will translate and some won't. I'd personally start with acoustic and then go electric, but whatever you do don't make my mistake and start with nylon string acoustic. That's functionally a whole different instrument.
>>129844635I've been at acoustic for 2 years.>>129844666I have a steel-string.
>>129844653If you have to choose between having an acoustic and not having an electric and the converse, choose the electric. You can play anything acoustic on the electric but not vice versa.
>>129844680What kind of stuff are you playing? I've been doing electric for 2 years and I'm getting close to being able to play some intermediate solos.
Who cares about strings, start learning woodwind.
>>129844697Just random chords & melodies, maybe a few metal/rock songs. Just opening parts though.
of course acoustic guitar scales are very different from electric guitar scales
>>129844725Yeah you should really get an electric. You need to practice in a much more focused manner if you want to progress anywhere.
>>129844735Ok, thank you.
>>129844738He's being sarcastic
>>129844573You are correct. Your hand and finger strength and flexibility & dexterity will be greater if you learn and use a steel string acoustic regularly versus the electric. Classical guitars are easy to play however due to their different and flexible strings. An electric overall is much easier to play physically. Electrics tend to be heavier weight wise with thinner and longer strings. Their necks tend to be longer and thinner which feels great in the hands (especially if you have smaller hands).Most acoustic necks join the body of their guitars at the 14th fret unless they have a cutaway. In my opinion, you want a cutaway to access the upper registers at this 14th fret join position. It's the one thing I hate about both my high end acoustics. Never have this problem with the electrics. In a blues/rock song like Who Do You Love by George Thorogood for example, there is high register part signature slide lick that gets played at this join position on the acoustic. It's almost impossible to play it correctly because the body of the guitar gets in the way. Now, the original song was meant to be played on an electric, but there are acoustic versions of the song and they sound awesome but you need to have a cutaway to do it without screwing it up most times. IT dives me crazy sometimes and I'd like to sell my dreadnoughts to get a cutaway.I have and play both styles of guitars so this is from years of experience and use.
>>129844427it's the same thingeverything to do with the guitar is just the same thing over and over againthe diatonic pattern and all 84 transpositions of it are just the same scale moved left and rightjust get a cheap fender dreadnought and start playing
>>129844697Cap
>>129845275Nothing crazy, just stuff like the Fade to Black and Powerslave solos. I haven't even practiced that consistently. Funnily enough I actually got my guitar exactly two years ago to this day.
>>129845275>CapAre you a zoomer or gen alpha?>>129845055>An electric overall is much easier to play physically. Which is why more beginners start out with it>Electrics tend to be heavier weight wise with thinner and longer strings. Their necks tend to be longer and thinner which feels great in the hands (especially if you have smaller hands). My hands are small. How heavier are electric guitars on average compared to acoustics?>>129845209How are they the same exactly?
>>129845621>How are they the same exactly?12 notes in music, 7 modes per note, 12x7=84in standard tuning, or a tuning proportionate thereof, the same pattern repeats endlessly...
>>129845621Im gen x nigga
>>129845899It's not "84 transpositions", it's twelve transpositions, each serving seven purposes.
>>129846043same thing, different point of view.
>>129846064Not really, since there are only twelve distinct combinations of notes.
>>129844427Acoustic is for strength resistance building or if you're so broke you can only play on acoustic for now. If you play acoustic enough you'll feel nothing and it'll make switching to electric like cake work
>>129846111Only if you want to play acoustic style stuff. If he has no practice with distorted riffing, bending, pinch harmonics, tremolo picking etc, he'll be far behind
Acoustic to actually be a musician, electric is all about chasing tone, hell the amp is more important than the guitar itself
>>129846147Jesus you people are so retarded. I've been playing on the same three tones since I bought my electric.
>>129846147just a shot of the dark here but maybe the ability is the most important...
>>129846158>I've been using my electric guitar wrongMany such cases
>>129846168https://youtu.be/2H76LUCBIUgNuh uh you can sound like this if you just buy the right amp
>>129846169I literally just practice all day why would I give a shit about tone when I'm practicing?
>>129846176>spam random notes and scales at high-speedAmazing musicianship
>>129846191This is bait. I'm not gonna fall for it.
>>129846183You got a electric guitar for that? Should've just stuck with an acoustic, and you would have improved faster because you will actually hear the subtleties in your playing which you can't with an electric
>>129846215That's blatantly untrue. Distortion actually magnifies sloppy playing because a tiny amount of string noise becomes a huge cacophony. Also a clean electric guitar sound has all of the subtlety that an acoustic has.Besides, what would I even play on an acoustic? 90% of the guitar music I listen to is metal.
>>129846235>Distortion actually magnifies sloppy playing because a tiny amount of string noise becomes a huge cacophonyWhich completely shits on the true musical nature of the guitar, the guitar is not a dry instrument, the natural ringing from the strings creating beautiful harmonics is what gives its musicality, when having to mute strings to control the distortion you lose all that, and a clean electric guitar doesn't come nowhere near close in feel to a acoustic guitar, it's not even funny>metal That's more a taste issue, metal was more a cultural movement, that died decades ago
>>129846300I can only respect this opinion if you're a classical guitarist. Metal has definitely not "dried up" though, the kind of stuff that comes out now puts Metallica to shame.
>>129846132I agree and disagree. I disagree that the strength resistance would only be useful to acoustic stuff. The action and the strings are a bit thicker and a bit more stronger so you need more pressure and precision, acoustic makes sure you can't hide behind effects. Every note needs you to play it correctly. Although yeah you probably need electric to master sweep picking and all that.
>>129846111Yeah, like cake work you mean it would be easy?>>129846132>distorted riffingCan't do it with an acoustic as far as I am aware.>bendingI'm assuming you mean bending strings, I have some experience, atleast with thicker strings.>Pinch harmonicsWhat is that? Never heard of that before.>Tremolo PickingGot experience with that.Also have experience with palm muting.Is there anything else I should know?
>>129846975>acoustic makes sure you can't hide behind effectsYou can't do that on an electric either. And yeah it'll build up your finger strength, but playing difficult guitar music will as well.>Every note needs you to play it correctlyAs if it's any different on electric.
>>129847046What kind of stuff do you mostly play?
>>129847082I am not trying to debate you and be right or wrong. Generally speaking the action and the pressure needed for electric and acoustic are different. Playing an acoustic, practicing on an acoustic, is good for strength resistance building because the attack, the action, is higher and stronger which means you build stronger callouses and stronger motion. It is another tool in your playing
>>129847100Just tinkering around with different sounds, not following anything in particular. Eventually when getting electric I'd play metal music.
>>129847102You can just play with heavier strings if you want that so much. Stevie Ray Vaughan played with such heavy strings that he had to eventually stop and go lighter. And there's so much you can't do on acoustic that it's really not worth it. If you have to choose one it's gotta be electric.
If the end goal is to play metal you should just go ahead and go Electric. Why arbitrarily set a progression like a video game?The scales/Fingerings that Metal typically have will only be a pain on the acoustic(even if it does help strengthen fingers. Again why the video game progression logic?)Get both if you can afford it but I'd say simply go straight to Electric and stop teasing yourself.
>>129844573Strength will come through practice. An electric will be easier on your hands. Being frustrated by having hands and fingertips that hurt can be discouraging. The question is which do you want to play? What kind of music will you be playing? And I don't mean in 10 years. What music do you want to play now? Let that guide you. "What do I want?" "What steps do I need to take to get there?"
>>129847162Well, it'd be a personal choice really. I am only giving my two cents as a general suggestion of what benefit playing acoustic might add to your playing style. It can be beneficial but it is optional and it isn't the end all be all. The callouses do go hard, like literally. It helps to have harder callouses. You don't have to play acoustic but it helps to be familiar with both acoustic and electric
>>129844427you should be learning both if you care about music.
>>129847294Good point. I thought about that previously.
>>129847192>It helps to have harder callousesDoes it? I can't say I've ever wished mine were harder.
>>129844573youre not wrong, id just play both, distortion technique is so vast that youll miss a big chunk focusing on acoustc
>>129847390I don't disagree
>>129847316add keys to it, in fact its even more important, its the most important instrument.
time spent playing and practicing is way more importantif you start with the "harder" one, you will be more discouraged while learning and play lessyou should play the "easier" one and feel more encouraged to play and practice all the time
