Jello Biafra and the fanzine Maximum Rocknroll, have criticized Agnostic Front for the controversial lyrics of the song "Public Assistance", written for the band by then-Carnivore frontman Peter Steele which pointed cruel aim at welfare recipients Jello said that was not punk.
>>129845053Nothing more punk than living off of everyone else's hard work. I started typing that sarcastically, but that really is the quintessential punk move. Being a functioning member of society who carries his own weight is definitely NOT punk. So technically Jello is correct.
>>129845085So poor people should just..be poor?
>>129845104Some people are so poor, all they have is money
>>129845053>Jello said that was not punk.Right, because that's how attitudes in the Bay Area punk scene developed. They've always had a distaste for people punching down. Those attitudes are probably a reaction to the neo-Nazi skinheads they used to constantly fight with in the region.
Steele always had a very dark sense of humor with both Carnivore and Type O Negative. Carnivore may have been a crossover band in sound, but IMO Steele was always much more of a metalhead than anything to do with punk.Dead Kennedys and Agnostic Front are both great bands. I think saying things are or aren't punk is silly, because really it was a vibe, and to say conservatism isn't punk is to rewrite history. Like it or not, RAC/hatecore bands like Skrewdriver came from punk. There have also always been right wingers in punk, like Johnny Ramone, Dave Smalley (Dag Nasty/DYS/ALL/Down By Law), and all of the Misfits. Most of the NYHC scene were also pretty right wing, especially the members of Cro-Mags and Youth of Today.There's always been a very outspoken left wing element of punk, with bands like Dead Kennedys, Crass and most of the anarcho-punk scene, MDC, The Clash, Fugazi, His Hero is Gone, and so on, but it's never actually been the entire punk scene. Punk is rebellious, but most of the early scene at least wasn't especially ideological.
>>129845104No. The song is more a cry at the people who *can* work but choose not to. The sad fact is that probably half the people living on government assistance in the US are scamming. A functioning society needs a safety net for its people. I don't think we should do away with the system. But the hard-working yet still not wealthy people get fucked in our system because it's a constant drain on their paycheck and society's resources. Most people don't hate poor people, they hate people who choose to be poor while begging for assistance. There's a huge difference.
>>129845235Sounds like chud bullshit. You probably think the whole Somali daycare "fraud " thing was real.
>>129845053Jello Biafra is such a reddit cuck.I bet all the things he does is just Trolls Remorse for when he said niggers in Holiday in Cambodia.
>>129845104in a sensible society, people (citizens) would only get handouts if they were working a fulltime job
>>129845053>Jello said that was not punk.I cant help but feel embarrassmeny very time I read a musician stating when something it's not punk. The music was always fast riffs and aggressive vocals, lyrics are just meh
