Reddit found the viral marketers who were posting about geese.turns out all the guys claiming the popularity of geese was artificial where rightreddit.com/r/CameronWinter/comments/1s9fh5g/has_anyone_heard_of_chaotic_good_projectschaoticgoodprojects.org/narrative-campaignsThe digital marketing agency behind geese - getting killed, cameron winter - love your miles, lucy bedroque - 2010 justin bieber, jane remover - dancing with your eyes closed and more"These 3 campaigns were 'Narrative Campaigns' which seems to have involved creating hundreds of fake social media accounts to "control the narrative" around a song or artist.According to the founders of the company in an interview with Billboard:"All opinions are formed in the TikTok comments — which is a reminder to us of what we can help with. I don’t know if this will make anyone feel better, but a lot of what we do on the narrative side is controlling the discourse. Most people see a video or something about an album that came out, and that first comment they see becomes their opinion, even when they haven’t heard the whole album. It’s really important for us to make sure we’re ahead of it and controlling that narrative in the direction we want.
Pheasants are the next big bird
>>129861053Yeah, no shit.
>>129861053And they job was to post bait threads on /mu/ for 7 months non stop. Man i wish i got paid for posting on 4channel
>the people making the geese hate threads are redditorsno surprise there
>>129861053The cowards took down their website so heres an article with the same quotehttps://www.billboard.com/pro/digital-marketers-secret-tactics-viral-songs/
>>129861082we have hard proof now, we live in the matrix, everything fakehttps://www.billboard.com/video/secrets-to-song-virality-on-tiktok-w-digital-marketing/
This shit happens behind the scenes for any major band. I don't know why /mu/ in particular seethes about geese the most. I wouldn't have even heard of them if there wasn't daily threads like this one complaining about them.
So all those Geese threads were actually people getting paid? Kek, I knew I was right to call them out for shilling.
everything you know is a liehttps://www.pinterest.com/04x4fd43ulitukigqn7rz4yibcm7dm/
>>129861093>I don't know why /mu/ in particular seethes about geese the most./mu/ is quite literally a buzzkill. If a new band has any buzz it gets sent here for execution.
>>129861191We just proved that your band is entirely inorganic and that all the hype was artificial. People calling them shills were proven right.
>>129861053I love how artificial everything is in the 2020s world. Means the pendulum might swing back in a decade or two and the youth will crave authenticity
>>129861053Imagine. They have legions of fake bots on their side and that SNL performance was still universally considered a disaster . That's how bad it was
Does that mean we are justified in reporting geese threads? Nice
bump. more people need to see this
>THERE'S A SHILL IN MY CAAAAAR>weeooo- weeooo~
>>129861053>jewish band by trust fund kids from brooklyn is astroturfedMy god... how could it be?
>>129861085this lol, how do i get that job
>>129861108>the website is just 2 art fag niggashttps://www.chaoticgoodprojects.com/hmm
>>129861093>This shit happens behind the scenes for any major band. Except for either genuine indie. And Yelyah's Power Snatch. Because she already got legacy so she is her own self promo.I'm not against advertisement but when it's overdone like it was with Geese it is in fact annoying. I didnt gave a shot to the music because they were being shilled NON-STOP for almost a year here.>her did u hear about getting killed>hey getting killed brofor months and months and months it felt so inorganic. I know for a fact this band is not King Crimson to warrant such weekly shilling non-stop.
That sucks and all but where can I sign up to get my band shilled too? I could care less if the only people calling it out will be a handful of fags on 4chan.
>>129861571buy an ad like Imbred. (he also buys ads on reddit tho he is a traitor)
>>129861707Nobody should copy a traitor
>>129861722if u buy an ad i recommend u to advertise on /mu/, /v/ and uhh i dont know. But I think you get to pick up 3 boards. All for the same cost if i remember correctly: 20 bucks.Not sure how it works exactly but there is several people attempting to put ads. There was a DAW seller once I dont even remember their name but the ad said something like"FREE DAWS FOR AUTISTS LIKE YOU"
>>129861490>it is in fact annoyingfunny because waifuspammers like you are the absolute most annoying posters on this website
>>129861093(YOU)
>>129861867the guy in this gay fucking comic shpuld have just pulled the weeds instead of bitching about it and making every conversation about weeds.
>>129861191>If a new band has any buzz it gets sent here for execution.and in turn it gives them exactly the advertising they want. 4chan is full of useful idiots that play right into the marketer's hands. another great example is the casting of snape being black in the new harry potter series. nothing but unending meltdowns on /tv/. the marketers knew this would happen.
>>129861191>>129861965It's truly the worst of both worlds on this board, though. If a band doesn't have buzz, they're completely ignored, met with 'literally who' or shill accusations, and if they do have buzz the blind contrarianism or shill accusations hit. Geese is one of the few times /mu/ gets it mostly right. Before the buzz they were dismissed as mediocre, after the buzz dismissed as shitty and astroturfed. 100% correct on both sides of it.
>>129861867im sick of weeds! and anti-weeds! stop talking about weeds!
>>129861765i dont have a big reaction folder ok i just started it
>>129861053Yeah, this shit is why you should ignore music journalists and places like Rym. Probably the Magdalena Bay spam was the same.
>>129862176all of this was shilled
Geese are swans of the lake, swans are geese for the pacific
>>129862187whatever that means, based
>>129861053Anything that makes the first top albums page of rym is probably something that was coordinated shilled.
>>129861376Kek
>>129861093You are right, but i still hate it and i will keep ignoring Geese because their music is shit.
>>129861490I want to like them just because the hayley spammer doesn't
I heard them not knowing any shilling or anyone's opinion on them and thought it was pretty great. Don't care.
>>129862475Yeah, for every empty headed person led by marketing there are just as many plebs with bad taste like you. Lowest common denominator band.
>>129862475Ok, marketer
>>129861053Expected it with Geese to be honest but Lucy Bedroque and Jane Remover took me by surprise.
>>129862446pssh try to, good luck, you gonna need it
Kek. This is just like when anon found out about Night Media and Asmongold. Except whereas that didn't have any effect for a few months, this was immediately shut down once it broke containment. Also it's clearly not Reddit doing this, but some Substack girl.
>>129861093Unironically the smartest /mu/tant.
The church of Scientology has been paying someone to spam Emily Armstrong on the board for years
>>129861490>>129862118>>129863266Oh no no no no, say it aint so!
>>129866386i promise im not a shill
>>129861086kek
>>129862184Imaginal Disk is trash and Magdalena Bay's only good song is Chaeri
>>129861053Imagine my shock
Music labels promoting their artists isn't a conspiracy you retards. They've been doing this for decades. You think the whole "Brian Wilson is a Genius" craze was organic? Of course it wasn't. But it also has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the music itself. Get off your high horses you faggots, and also go back to R*ddit
>>129866893You are, you're just not getting any money
I don't think I've seen a band attract so many raging schizos as Geese has, they haven't even really been around that long and they're already driving retards on redit insane
>>129861393This. It's already ridiculously obvious to anyone with half a brain. Nice to be proven right so all the retard bandwagon hoppers can see it too though.
>>129861053>Most people see a video or something about an album that came out, and that first comment they see becomes their opinion, even when they haven’t heard the whole albumNever ceases to amaze me. This is why you should be a professional contrarian. My natural reaction is to lean toward the opposite. Not to assume it entirely, but certainly to be little biased that way. Its not because I think I'm particularly adept at separating advertising from genuine opinion or anything like that. I just think most people are fucking idiots with shit taste, so even considering whether any particular post or comment comes from a marketer or a moron is redundant, it makes no difference.
>>129861053Zoomers not caring that geese is astroturfed proves that they're spiritually late millennials. like the late millennials that didn't care that lana del rey's started out as a failed industry plant. it blows my mind that gen x raised an entire generation that couldn't be cynical or distrust authority if their lives depended on it.
you are telling me labels advertise their bands?!
Geese put out a good record. most definitely overhyped but who cares. it's a good record.>>129861053man you guys are really preoccupied with reddit aren'tcha?
>>129870874>distrust authorityLOL more like "don't care what some self-declared 'authority' says is good music"uncs seething because they can't insinuate themselves between artists and audience anymore.Nobody cares what you don't like, unc. and nobody cares if an album is hyped/overhyped/astroturfed or not either.
>>129870899fuck you for being paid to post that
>>129870874kids naturally look to differentiate themselves from their parents. gen x were cynical and distrusting of authority, which comes to be seen as cringe by the following generations. that tendency was strongly reinforced by the homogenising effect of social media and its pressure to seek acceptance/validation via conformity. it wont be until beta or gamma are in the driving seat that anyone will rediscover any tendency towards independence, individuality or rebellion.
i genuinely thought the album was pretty good personally but could also tell there was an astroturfed hype campaign going, it just felt too omnipresent and forced. wonder if angine de poitrine or whatever is using them too
>>129871628>wonder if angine de poitrine or whatever is using them tooOh 100%. Ive been calling them shills ever since they started getting spammed here
>>129861305op chose a dumb image to use for the topic to be honest, thread would have more engagement with a better image/title
All contemporary "rock" is being shilled by rich boomers wanting to relive their le led zeppelin days. Its the most inorganic genre
>>129865313I believe it.
>>129870139>it also has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the music itselfnah it quite literally means it's dishonest, therefore, not worth the time
Great thread, OP.
>>129861053>reddit found itYou know, back in the day it would be US
>>129872002we know it inherently. thats why we shit on it
I like Geese and Cameron Winter.
>>129861053i have still never listened to one geese song despite being on /mu/, reddit, and youtube all day every daythese guys suck at their job
>>129861093I would say that /mu/ doesn't want corporate glowniggers on here trying to manipulate the peoply of this board's opinion. Everybody was sick of the talentless goblina cunts 'the warning' and their army of paid shills. If geese is the breaking point so be it.
>>129870891Yea, but they advertise by spamming on 4channel... and leddit. Whats up w/ dat.
>>129861490it was a new album if it was actually well liked thats what organic posting would look like
>people endlessly spam Paramore, Lincoln Park, Olivia Rodriguez>crickets>rock group releases something original and it gains a bit of traction>endless threads seething about their existenceIve got hater fatigue, if you don't like a band just stop talking about them
>>129874102>Geese >something original I've got shitty post fatigue and yours is almost too much to bear at this point.
>>129874102>Paramore, Lincoln Park, OliviaI dislike that spam as well
we did it reddit! we exposed some random new york nepobaby and not the artificial signal boosting of kpop by modeling agencies ran by pedophiles!
>>129872002Weve literally been calling them shills since day 1
The campaign against them unironically feels more artificial than their marketing does
>>129874846>noo you can't just notice patterns and look up what agencies are paying millions to advertise them
>>129874857>notice patternsApophenia>look up what agencies are paying millions to advertise themartists are allowed to have marketing agencies you retard
>>129874846>>129874877And the damage control has arrived. I hope you are at least being payed decently.
>>129874711Kpop threads are started by dedicated autists, there is no way modeling agencies in Korea even know what 4chan is.Meanwhile we literally have evidence behind the fake popularity of Camerons band
>>129874900>Kpop threads are started by dedicated autists, there is no way modeling agencies in Korea even know what 4chan is.
>>129874911You have no idea how big kpop is, it would be completely pointless to advertise something that already has grassroots popularity. See Kpop Demon hunters for an example
>>129874924>You have no idea how big kpop is,And now the kpopfags are here
>>129874930Like it or hate it we are a natural movement, Cameron Winters is not.
>>129874924>kpop>grassroots popularitySurely you can't be serious right?
>>129874941Yes. Korea isn't advertising in the US, their popularity here comes from dedicated fans. Do you see billboards of kpop idols in any of the major cities? Of course you fucking don't.
bump, this should be bigger news.
>>129874947Anon, I don't think you understand how these campaigns work. I don't see bilboards for Geese either but as we can see they clearly had a marketing team behind them too. You are actually retarded if you think even half the posters in the kpop thread are organic. You're posting among bots, I'm sorry you had to find out this way
>>1298749633/10 bait. im going to stop responding.
>>129874985You think Kpop is an organic grassroots genre, I don't need to bait, everyone lurking can already see how retarded you are.
>>129874993Now I see what is happening here, the Greese advertising agency is trying to derail the thread so we stop calling out their shilling
>>129875011If the Geese marketing agency were here they'd be endless Geese threads created in robotic succession right after the other. Sounds familiar doesn't it?
>>129861053>turns out all the guys claiming the popularity of geese was artificial where rightduh we've had shills here for years, remember gus dapperton and pale waves? kek
>>129875032>Sounds familiar doesn't it?Yes actually, when they started shilling that album we had endless shill threads about them.
>>129866386So Zara Larsson is also being shilled here. I am not suprised in the slightest
>>129875072And the endlessly created threads in question would be filled with nothing but professional glowups of Cameron Winter and his tranny bandmates, and all the commenters would by nothing but generic one-liners that have nothing to actually say about the band or its musicBut surely /mu/ has nothing like that going on....nope...nothing whatsoever comes to mind, only grassroots threads on here now that Geese has been exposed....
>>129870148rekt
>>129872240Kek, same.
>>129861907Timmy won't do shit
>>129861216>universally considered a disasterBy who? SNL’s regular viewership, aka the most refined critics of music and culture at large?Unironically it’s probably the best live performance of Trinidad you can find online.
You retards realize that this is every musical act and it's not going to change. So who gives a fuck anymore. Let the labels astroturf their artists popularity and just move on.
basing your opinions based on what people say online leaves you open to exploitation. who woulda thought
A lot of Geese paid shills in damage control it like this guy: >>129875032, >>129875944 or this >>129875933 lol geese marketers are getting mad for being exposed
Im an oldfag who came here in 2016 and I haven't seen a band as astroturfed as Cameron here ever. its all inorganic shilling
>>129861867More like yids amirite
Idk I heard their album and I liked most of it. No amount of marketing could make me like some music.No matter how much ads I see I'll never like anything made by Taylor SwiftSo idk maybe this works on NPCs but I just don't appreciate anything based on ads or what someone else tells me. I check it out and see if I like it. Most of the times I don't
>>129876331>>129862585
>>129876216yeah buddy you missed most of the death grips shilling, which was 10x as shameless
bump
>>129861410be Indian and willing to work for dimes a day
>>129861053Kek, you can try to push an artist like that, but people will realize that it's not organic.
>>129861053Kek, the manager from the band really paid someone to write about the singer's father being a cuck.
>>129862184I only ever saw this shit posted on this board.
>>129870713>people say fascism is bad>I'm a contrarian, so I'll vote for trump. Fuck off, idiot.
>>129861053I do not care as long as the music is good.
>>129862184Don't you dare compare Boredoms to all that shillslop
>>129879253TDI also YWNBAW
>>129879622*TDS
>>129874102The problem is the appeal behind those artists is understandable. Geese have absolutely 0 appeal. They are intentionally anti-appealing.
Zoomers caught red-handed. Good work, team.
>>129861053>and that first comment they see becomes their opinionThis just proves my theory that all people are fucking idiots, except me and a few others.>>129861093>I wouldn't have even heard of them if there wasn't daily threads like this one complaining about them.I still haven't heard them. I just know I fucking hate them from every descriptor I've heard and read about them
>>129879742Paramore, Coldplay, Tame Impala, Mitski, Travis Scott and Childish Gambino are in this screenshot below>>129866386Kill yourself faggot>>129870874Speak for yourself dickhead. I've boycotted Geese for that reason myself.
Why does no one seem to care that the band thats been spammed here the last year has been outted as being astroturfed? I had to bump it from page 8 yet again
>>129882816Because you sound like an exacerbated redditor.
>>129882930Hope the paycheck is worth it
>>129861093
>>129861093Ive never seen other bands shilling to the extent of Geese
>>129883078We have so much Kpop, yet you niggers will still say this.
>>129883451Kpop has alwsys been big its all asians talk about
>>129861085b-b-b-ut I already do it for free! please do not seal my job!!!!
>reddit linkkill yourself
>>129861108>Indie Sleaze / Sleaze Popcool name! let me add this well-established not-artificial genre on RYM brb
>unvaxxed>uncircumcised>never listened to geese
>>129884685Based chad
>>129872002that's why I now like Geese
>>129861053>jane removerFucking knew this guy's rise (if you could call it that lol) was inorganic
>>129884749Same with 2Hollis and Femtanyl. Nothing is organic these days
Ok and?
>>129885643Wow thanks for the excellent comment
>>1298850112hollis is a nepo baby but what did Femtanyl do?
>>129870874>gen x>distrusting authorityLMAO you fell for their lies
>>129861064Pheasants are the ampersand of birds
>>129885011Phreshboyswag had an organic come up, no label wants to pick him up because he beats women or something.
>>129885647No one is going to care about this other than the couple of spammers that already hated the band.
>>129861053No shit, same with The Warning
>>129887048At least they pulled funding for their shills, The Geese shillers are still going
>>129886811fuck Phreshboyswag
>>129882816Most people don't care or are as dumb as bricks. Some of us care.
Does this mean we can report geese threads for advertising?
kek, I knew they were shills but now I actually have the proof
>>129861053>Getting KilledMore like...>GETTING SHILLED
>>129861053>chaoticgoodprojects.org/narrative-campaignsThis page is literally a 404Either they realized people were onto them and deleted the page, or the page never existed in the first place and people on Reddit just started a rumor that none of you retards on here bothered to fact-check. I'm gonna say it's a 50/50 possibility for either
>>129890317see>>129861089
>>129880729understood.
So now that it's been proven that Paramore, Coldplay, Tame Impala, Mitski, Travis Scott, Childish Gambino, Gorillaz, Tame Impala, and Geese are all astroturfed, does that means all the biggest rap, indie, and rock music released in the last 20 years is fake?Are Weezer, Ween, and MGMT fake too?Is it even possible to avoid "fake" music?OrHear me out for a secondMaybe it's more likely that these artist get more promotion because labels think they have the most potential? I mean think about it, these ad campaigns aren't exactly out here promoting just any random hipster slop. I don't think I could pay them a million dollars to run ads for my random ass bedroom recordings. I think some of you are putting the cart before the horse here
>>129890418>Is it even possible to avoid "fake" musicat first i was gonna say just avoid major labels and while that is true, plenty of dishonest music is made outside of em too. that kind is pretty easy to identify as well tho so i dunno, just listen to better music and you wont have that problem.every single artist you mentioned has been known to be trash. many more just like them
>>129890418Paramore, Coldplay, Travis Scott, and Gorillaz aren't astroturfed
>>129890498The same company that promoted Geese also ran campaigns for them anon
>>129890498every major label ''artist'' is shilled for. massive marketing budgets. thats cause that kind of music is a product. not art.
holy shit you people are so insufferable it's unrealThere are two kinds of artists out thereOnes who are shilledAnd ones that literally nobody has ever heard ofIt's that simple. If I was signed to a major label and they weren't promoting my music I'd be fucking pissed
>>129890538thats not the argument retard. the argument is that they are literally psyopping the popularity and the fact that all you fucking cattle are fine with it is the reason israel rules the western world
>>129890538>holy shit you people are so insufferable it's unrealtake it easy imagine this pepe the frog anytime you get pissed
>>129890509Geese is inorganically propped up, those bands weren't. They got the same push by the industry like tons of others did, they just had the musical hooks and talent to back it up where other people around them failed. The same thing happened in every other decade before them, that was just how the music industry worked. people who could hack it were able to make it and the hacks weren't. In comparison, Geese is a completely inorganic industry plant project, propped up in the artistic desert that is 2020s rock
>>129890555>and the fact that all you fucking cattle are fine with it is the reason israel rules the western worldWe're talking about music you dense motherfucker, people tend to prioritize different things by matter of importance, you don't understand this because you have autism spectrum disorder.
>>129890559None of them were organic anon, I'm sorry to say, you don't really get to decide what marketing campaigns are organic or not based on personal vibes.
>>129890579Nothing in human history was organic, ever. Actually no it doesn't work that way, lol. Actually you can draw lines and delineate stuff
>>129890679You don't actually know where those lines are drawn because you're a psued. Your logic is just "artist i like=organic" and "artist i don't like=inorganic"
You guys say it’s not bad but a shill is a paid liar. Do you genuinely like geese? It’s not right to lie
>>129890697You're projecting your own lack of logic. My original post was well argued. Again, you're just a fucking freak.
>>129890723Art is subjective (I do like Geese but I think 3D Country was a better album than Getting Shilled)
>>129890736You made no valid arguments whatsoever anon, Weasel Words aren't valid arguments. If you simply like artists like Tame Impala and Gorillaz that's fine but don't try and come up with some autistic rationale for it.
>>129890748>projecting freak
>>129890573ok it's important to me that the artists I listen to arent being supported by evil people
>>129890872This is how I know you're mentally ill. There is no pipeline whatsoever between an artist having a Jewish manager and its listeners all becoming Zionists, unless the artist itself is open about being a Zionist, but even then they face backlash from their audience. It's a lousy argument because people put more importance on politics than music. Dumbass.
>>129890897ok even forgetting politics fully, Geese is a boring band that did nothing new or special. fuck you for being paid double money on easter to post this
>>129890903>Geese is a boring band that did nothing new or special. Yeah no shit, that's most bands, except most bands don't have retards from Reddit making walls of text seething about their marketing agency so those assholes must be doing something right
>>129890912>must be doing something right?no?they just have money behind them?fuck you?
>>129890924Maybe they were the ones who made this fucking thread in the first place. Either way, boring bands don't have money and a marketing agency behind them and people endlessly seething about them. It's pretty much the only reason people still talk about fucking Swans.
