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How much of singing high notes is practice/skill and how much is purely physiological/innate talent?
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>>129914637
If you're a natural baritone (or even deeper), hitting high notes is pretty much off the table, unless you're a freak (like young Elvis).
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>>129914660
I have a naturally deep voice but I can hit pretty high notes. The problem js they sound very nasal and unpleasant. Wish I could get a better tone.
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>>129914637
It's like 95% technique.
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>>129914660
https://youtu.be/N7XH-58eB8c
Most classical countertenors are baritones.
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>>129914678
Any ideas what I can do to get my high notes to be less thin/nasal/biting?
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>>129914669
You need to train your falsetto to have a fuller sound. Keep singing in it, never push, and research technique.
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>>129914694
Are you saying that training falsetto will carry over to my chest voice? Because I'm referring to high notes in a chest/mixed register.
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>>129914689
I struggle with the same thing. You need to give your falsetto better breath support and resonance. Much easier said than done, but it's very much possible.
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There are definite physical features that control the range of yourvoice. But you can train yourself to hit some surprisingly high notes. I'd suggest you take a look at this guy's material if that is something you want to do:
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCXncrpgDAX620BkKFc5ZJ5g
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>>129914705
Where does your chest voice end?
>Because I'm referring to high notes in a chest/mixed register.
Don't try to push your chest voice too high. That's what Freddie Mercury did and it destroyed his voice. Instead switch to head voice. If you train well enough you can make it a gradient instead of an on/off switch.
>mixed voice
No such thing. You're always either in chest or head voice. "Mixed voice" means smoothing the transition, so that the low head voice and high chest voice sound similar.
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>>129914694
Falsetto is the easy part, I think. It's projecting a normal high voice (as a usually low singer) that is a little freakish. Not everyone can do it. Maybe Bowie a bit, but Bowie would stay in modes (he had his Ziggy voice, then his crooner voice..but he kept them in seperate songs. He wasn't dramatic like this).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CmDVkLE39A
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>>129914744
We need to clarify our terms.
What do you mean by "normal high voice" and falsetto?
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>>129914754
Falsetto is like Beegees. I'm just talking about hitting tenor range as a baritone. I think Elvis had almost a 4 octave range. That's just natural freakishness.
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>>129914772
>Falsetto is like Beegees
Okay well I mean any head voice by falsetto. Meaning the M2 register. You will need to use that to hit high notes as a baritone, tenor, whatever.
>tenor range
It depends what you mean by "tenor range". Any baritone can sing anything in tenor range. Maybe not in an opera because the voice thins out towards the top, but in popular music yes.
>Elvis had almost a 4 octave range
>that's just natural freakishness
We all have the same singing physiology. The only difference is in timbre and the placement of the passaggio. But the majority of men have a passaggio in the range of a few notes from each other.
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>>129914816
>We all have the same singing physiology.
I would think 99.9% of men do. Others just seem like mutants.
I mean, Elvis could probably get away with recording both of the Righteous Brothers parts..or get close. It would just be the "Righteous Brother".
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>>129914868
I'm sorry but Elvis was no different. Watch Dimash sing and you'll understand what I mean.
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>>129914722
>No such thing.
ok but no one who actually talks about this stuff seriously agrees with you...
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>falsetto
That's cheating. Anyone can sing pretty much anything in falsetto. The real test is your chest voice.
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>>129914908
Then explain to me where the "M1.5" register is. Have you ever sang neither in chest nor head voice? Mess around enough and you'll realize that vocal registers are an on/off switch. "Mixed voice" is a confusing abstraction that only hurts communication.
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>>129914882
I figured that he's a mutant too. Else there'd be more Dimashes.
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>>129914925
Vocal nodules in 3... 2... 1...
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>>129914942
if it was just an on/off switch, you wouldnt be able to avoid voice breaks.
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>>129914944
No he's not, he's just good as a baritone and a countertenor.
https://youtu.be/yF4YXv6ZIuE
This is all falsetto.
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>>129914637
Depends on what you mean by "singing high notes". Most people can sing them after a bit of training. Now whether they'll actually sound good hitting them, or do it in a way that doesn't fuck up their voice is another question.
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>>129914962
>This is all falsetto.
yeah, fucking obviously.
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>>129914961
You avoid voice breaks by better supporting chest voice, or by switching to head voice. You've probably only ever read about singing and never actually tried this stuff out for yourself because if you did you'd understand exactly what I'm saying.
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>>129914977
It's impossible for a male to sing that high without falsetto. Unless you're a castrato I guess.
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>>129914998
>It's impossible for a male to sing that high without falsetto
and? what point are you trying to prove?
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>>129914637
Singing is mostly an innate talent.
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>>129915066
What point are you trying to prove? You know Dimash and Elvis use falsetto too right?
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>>129915089
Imagine thinking this. Give me one (1) great singer who was just "naturally great".
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>>129915097
This doesn't sound like any falsetto to me. Or maybe at the tip top high end to reach over the edge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIyNJHwfmak
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>>129915140
Yeah that's because he doesn't sing past like F#4 lol
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>>129915172
If you can do it yourself, hats off to you.
I'm a natural baritone myself, but I kind of stay in my safe Johnny Cash range. Elvis would jump from the croon to a kind of pubescent teen boy high. It doesn't sound like the usual falsetto affectation.. which is almost pseudo female like.
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>>129915198
I can sing an F#4 in chest voice yes lol. If you're a baritone you should be able to, although it might not be a good idea to do so often.
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>>129915203
post vocaroo
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>>129915503
No I'm a shit singer I won't even pretend to not be. I'm a decent drummer lol
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>>129915577
you just said you could do it though
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>>129915622
Yeah well I can only do it loudly and I'm at home with my parents lol. I could give you an F#4 in falsetto if you want?
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>>129915635
lol
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>>129914637
>longsleeve under t shirt
>beanie
>shorts???
wtf is wrong with white people?
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you’re born with it. imagine trying to hit these falsetto notes live.

https://youtu.be/0lZsEqWV_Yg
https://youtu.be/d7TQP0SVpLk
https://youtu.be/cQew6g3JrhY
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>>129915985
Just train your falsetto and you can
I don't know why that's so hard for people to understand
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>>129915985
see >>129914925
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>>129916162
You know chest voice has a limit as to how high it can go right?
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>>129916176
yes it's much more difficult (and impressive) to sing high in a full chest sound. falsetto is singing on easy mode.
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>>129916249
I disagree. I think the most impressive thing is to make your transition to falsetto seamless, not to just bring chest voice higher and higher and kill your voice.
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>>129916281
>make your transition to falsetto seamless
it's not though. it's extremely to twll when someone is using falsetto. not seemless at all.
>kill your voice
lrn 2 sing lmao
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>>129916367
>it's extremely to tell when someone is using falsetto
Not as easy as you might think.
>lrn 2 sing lmao
There's no way to carry chest voice past a certain point, depending on your individual passaggio. If you're a baritone you absolutely can not ever sing in the fifth octave in chest voice.
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>>129916392
i can sing a C6 in full chest voice.
can't prove it right now cause my family is home :((((
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>>129916779
Singing an F#4 in chest voice is not an impressive achievement lol
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This thread is proof that mu is full of idiots. Any chance you faggots are kpop posters, too?
Singing is a learnable skill.
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>>129916857
i know, you suck at singing. i can sing a c6 though, which is very impressive.
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>>129914637
Nick Mullen?
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>>129917076
No male has ever sung a C6 in chest voice lmao
That just doesn't happen
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>>129917415
i have.
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>>129915108
Greatness is only possible with innate talent, practice is still required.



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