>>129938479
Because CD is just a digital storage medium and we have better means of storing digital audio now like flash storage?
>inb4 "blablabla not all CD audio was digital!"
Yeah but who even gives a shit when there's functionally no difference? The reason Vinyl never died was because there is a real novelty to the sound being physically etched in wax and (theoretically) not even needing electricity to play back.

>>129938479
>More compact.
>Better sound.
>Cheaper.
Tiny artwork
CD rot - they often don't last more than 20 years without problems
Jewel cases that always break
Most material out there is badly mastered
Sound quality not better than a LP record, except for the occasional ticks/pops that are present on uncared LP records.

>>129938561
I've had CDs for 20 years and they work fine so I'm calling bullshit

>>129938595
Yeah true there’s no CD Rot

>>129938561
CD rot only happens with very specific pressings or if you live in a very humid and hot area. As long as you keep them in their cases, your CDs are gonna be fine. I've bought many early 80s records on flea markets, and they still play perfectly.

>>129938561
>Most material out there is badly mastered
>Sound quality not better than a LP record, except for the occasional ticks/pops that are present on uncared LP records.

So we're just making shit up now

The. Flex your cd’s

Flex your CD collections

>>129938479
Well, I for one, still love the jewel case, still love CD’s

>>129938500
>Because CD is just a digital storage medium
yeah, and the object itself has no appeal. it felt like a cool tech novelty thing in like 1989 but that's it.
how would you even make that thing cool again?

let those silly normie shun them and piss their money away on shittily mastered vinyl or an endless spotify sub, wouldn't want them to go up in price again.

Most new releases are gatefold/digipaks these days too.

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>>129938561
>CD rot - they often don't last more than 20 years without problems
i have some of the earliest pressings ever made. some are 40yrs old. also have 100s i bought throughout the 90s which are now 30+yrs old. never had a disc "rot" or experience a disc failure or any sort

>>129939723
I have hundreds of used CDs and two examples of disc rot. Both are known bad pressings. One still plays perfectly because the rot starts from the edge and hasn't reached the data yet. The other has more data so the rot has reached the end of the final track.

>>129939723
>>129939935
I use Exact Audio Copy's Test mode to determine if certain CDs are fucked.

Having bought a large amount from charity shops the past couple of years, unfortunately I've encountered quite a few more than usual. Some you can tell straight away because of how scratched the disc is. Others don't look fucked at all but still fail.

The three weirdest defective ones I've experienced were a copy of Blood Sugar Sex Magik where the disc had a tiny hole going straight through the data, a copy of D12 World with a similar issue, and a copy of Take off Your Pants And Jacket where the data layer hadn't been pressed properly so you could see straight through it from the underside.

>>129939935
>Both are known bad pressings.
right collectors know that certain nimbus cds pressed in the uk have problems. they are easy to detect since the top label side become sticky but they are still playable.
>>129939976
those problems seem like problems caused when people store the cds in binders. the binders seem to destroy cds because of some sort of chemical reaction

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>>129940034
>those problems seem like problems caused when people store the cds in binders. the binders seem to destroy cds because of some sort of chemical reaction
Probably. I've seen stories about the foam packaging Deutsche Grammophon releases had in the 80s which ended up bonding to the discs themselves, I'm very thankful I've never encountered that in person. The Blink-182 one was one of those Replay refurbishment CDs which made it really odd that it got through their process (this obviously isn't a picture of it but the resealing was similar)

>>129939976
>a tiny hole going straight through the data
"Pin holes". Very common in early CDs. Consensus among the boomers on the Steve Hoffman forums is that it's a manufacturing defect there from the start and it doesn't get any worse with time. I've never seen an example bad enough to seriously trouble the error correction.

>>129940167
These weren't pin holes. The top layer was worn away. If I had the two I would take a photo of them but I threw them out.

>I've never seen an example bad enough to seriously trouble the error correction.
The two were unplayable.

>>129939047
Poorfags who shill streaming and pirating do just make stuff up. Vinylfags in many cases have just been misinformed. Both in rationalization trap. Threw away thousands in CDs for streaming only to get cucked by cd chads picking up those same discs for pennies on the dollar. Vinylfags sinking thousands into crusty worn-out records that crackle and pop and skip and pretending it sounds better or "warmer".

>>129939723
Same. Discs don't rot. They can have manufacturing defects and if you don't take care of them and live in a swamp they can be ruined.

no point. waste

>>129940531
Cooked em
>>129940548
Get a life, stupid

>>129940531
holy based

>>129940531
vinylsissies...our response?

>>129938479
Ignorance and lack of taste

>>129940960
they all died of shame. you are the lone survivor

Vinyl gay cd good

>>129938561
>they often don't last more than 20 years without problems
Zoomoid exposed. There are cds out there that are older than ur gay ass dad with no problems. And yes it is the norm

>>129940531
holy fucking based, they're all too busy re-mortgaging their houses, taking out another loan and balancing their budgets to account for RSD spending to respond right now unfortunately

>>129938561
>CD rot
panchiko was a fake story, you have to try really hard to create CD rot, it was intentionally done to make up a story

Why do you pay for digital files on plastic discs?

>>129944797
why do you have a micropenis?

I was a teenager in the CD era and records were corny gay shit that sucked. Nobody wanted vinyl, it was all about CD's. instantly changing tracks, able to play in car, perfect sound. Records are fine I guess, just obsolete funco pops for consumerists. What's worse is the 'audio cassette' thing. I remember mid 2000's the zoomer punk bands were putting out audio cassettes, what the fuck? burning CD's is cheap as fuck. Tapes sound like shit.

>>129940056
>The Blink-182 one was one of those Replay refurbishment CDs
right, that is another thing that destroys cds... buffing/refurbishing. that process literally grinds away plastic on the disc. granted its on the bottom layer and the data is on the top but i never bother with buffed discs. i had one long ago before i became aware of the process and it had playing issues at a certain point on the disc. sure enough after looking at the disc under bright light i could see it was buffed

>>129944797
How else do you get digital files? Paying monthly? You really want your entire music collection relegated to a temporary subscription that can change or be wiped at any time? Streaming isn’t like the library where at least it’s free. You’re actually paying to be fucked in the ass.

>>129944797
You've had dozens of people explain why

>>129945456
streaming or soulseek doesn’t matter. paying for physical discs with digital files is stupid

>>129945482
not one argument

>>129945501
Countless and all you do is go "waste" as a counter so what's the fucking point of continuing the conversation? You don't like CDs. That's fine. Go stream all you want to, asshole. No one's forcing you to buy or do anything.

>>129945520
name one advantage of CDs

>>129945490
>paying for physical discs with digital files is stupid
it isnt though. guess you are one of those people that always just liked listening to am/fm radio back in the day. if you dont want to buy music thats your choice

>>129945626
Being an affordable way for people who prefer physical media to own and enjoy their favorite albums. It's also a cheap option to help support smaller bands/artists since other merch is infinitely more expensive these days

>>129945648
but it's a digital file on plastic anon. Don't you get it? This kills your argument apparently

>>129945626
infinite digital files
highly durable
small size
play in car/home/outdoors
share with friends
cheap to play and collect
widely available
typically mass produced

>>129944797
if your argument is why pay for music because you download files dubiously, then I won't convince you, but if you're arguing in favor of other formats, they all have major disadvantages compared to CD

>>129944974
I agree that there is no reason to buy vinyl nowadays that everything is recorded digitally but nah not all cassettes sound like shit. Type iv cassettes sound fucking good, even type 1 cassettes can sound good on a high end deck but those are stupidly expensive.
>mid 2000's
>zoomer punk bands
Oldest zoomer was 7 in 2005 bro wtf u talking about

>>129945676
>don't support bands/artists because I have a hate boner for this format
Were you raped on top of a box of CDs in Best Buy?l back in the day? Vinyl has tons of disadvantages. Cassettes are terrible. I'm not renting shit from Spotify or any other streaming service. I'm sorry this upsets you to the point of shitting up two threads with your nonsense

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Some more selections from my collection. Fuck you

>>129945708
I was making fun of the other guy, anon.

>>129945753
>Texas is the Reason
>Archers of Loaf
>Built to Spill
I see we have a patrician in our midst

>>129945786
You did a great job. Nailed how fucking annoying he is.

>>129945753
And? I can search for these albums on Spotify and it will sound identical. If I like to support Doug, I can just buy a bts shirt or a vinyl.

>>129946097
he's posting his collection you utter doughnut, no one cares for your lame argument

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>Zoomers have unironically wrapped around from cassette tapes/vinyl and into shilling CDs now
>192khz 1s and 0s on a plastic disk you can easily get online if you know where to look and in better quality sometimes
>Everyone defaults to to pigeonholing others as streamcucks if they don't do any of that

We used to have sharethreads on this board for a good reason.

based people get vinyl, cassette and CD depending on how it was originally recorded and released.

>>129946097
>and it will sound identical.
Retard, normie, technologically illiterate, lazy etc.. all of those adjectives suit you for talking outta ur ass.

>>129947427
you're right, CD will sound inferior, realistically.

>>129944974
>I was a teenager in the CD era
I remember when CDs really became a thing and how much better it was. We were a bit late, probably late 80s.
I have great memories playing my dad's records and making cassettes. I still probably bought cassettes into the 90s just because they were cheaper. Most teenagers had a mix of CDs and cassettes, and making mixes or just dubbing other people's CDs or cassettes or even from the library, was how you got music. Internet and cheap writable CDs ended cassettes but something culturally was lost (certainly not in the sound though, cassettes were good enough but sucked). Then again the early days of Internet music sharing was good fun too.

>>129944974
Cassette tapes are legit awful and only done by the "OMG so quirky obsolete technology release UwU" gimmick releases, might as well just put shit on Reel to Reel atp. CDs were the best compromise for audio quality to price and form factor ratio, high end Super Audio CDs failing to take off is indicative of this.

>>129947288
SACDs are the way to go.

>>129947440
>256kbps mp3s (max) from Spotify sound better than PCM 1411kbps
You're a good troll at least, u made me reply to your nonsense.

>>129947370
Based

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>>129947540
you're lying. your entire CD copellection is obsolete.

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>>129947440
You don't really know what your talking about. If the digital version was lossless and was the same master as the CD then played through the same dac and speakers they would sound the same. I have doubts about Spotify lossless but say it is, they usually have one of the recent remasters. You could have that same master on cd but that isn't necessary the case. Many CDs have unique masters not found on streaming sites. They may share these masters with vinyl or not. What they don't share with vinyl is shity sound. Also certain pressings of masters have different sound characteristics.

>>129947603
And if you are just pirating a rip you can thank cd chads for that too

>>129947603
I research those masters for my favorite albums and get them on soulseek. Without buying plastic.

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>>129940531
Based and redpilled. Bought my first car by making retards buy worn out records for hundreds lmao. Meanwhile i'm enjoying my CD collection and playing my terabytes of hi-res files on my DAC. Life si good.

>>129947626
Your welcome

>>129947601
>24bit
>44.1khz
>44.1khz
Oh nonono hahaha. Not the guy you're replying to but sn't this "high tier" only available in europe or some shit? If you're gonna act stupid at least use qobuz or even tidal as an exmple.

>>129947715
you're coping hard my friend. your collection has no purpose. you should've bought vinyl.

>>129947603
This, you're paying to listen to someone elses CD rips on someone else's PC, the notion that you're listening to some "amazing HQ premium audiophile grade super turbo 2 4k edition" release is a fucking pipe dream, the bandwith is there but theyd rather make ljne go up by ripping whatever discs they have lying around after obtaining the rights.

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>>129947736
>you should've bought vinyl

>start a CD thread
>BUT MUH BIT RATE ITS DUH SAME AS STREAMING
yes there's a reason every person is dumbed down to a streaming cuck because they are, that's the only argument any other formatfag has to rebuke CDchads for enjoying their format, if you're arguing in favor of streaming because ITS DUH SAME THING then you are a streamingfag

you will never in any way convince me streaming is superior or equal to any physical format or at least downloading files, streaming is the literal antithesis to enjoying music

>>129947842
You shall never take the opinion of people who listen to their music through a $100 bluetooth speaker seriously. Streamingfags are subhumans.

>>129947842
if you want highest quality audio files for free, use soulseek.
if you want high-highest quality audio files without hurdles, including on your phone, get spotify
if you want a physical collection and something different, more sovlful, and a piece of furniture, get vinyl.
CDs have no purpose.

>>129947896
I'd rather pay for music I own, streaming music is subhuman

>>129947715
you would fail every A/B blind test anyway. stop coping.

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>>129947889
I have never listened to my music collection through bluetooth because i'm not brown.

>>129938617
If any CDs have rot it's likely due to manufacturing defects from specific plants. I own lots of 80s CDs, some older than me, and I have not experienced this at all. The only CDs I had trouble getting perfect rips of in EAC secure mode with test and copy were ones with scratches and they still read fine, it just took many hours of waiting.

There are a lot of retarded takes in this thread btw. I could correct a lot of the nonsense but I'd just be repeating things from the last time we had one of these threads.

>>129948094
By the way even though I collect CDs I also have an Apple Music account. I download music from there in ALAC format and convert it to FLAC. A lot of music is not released on any physical format these days. Lossless streaming is 16bit 44.1khz at the minimum, the same as a CD. If being able to keep it is what you care about there are tools you can set up to download from streaming services. I have a massive archive of lossless audio, mostly CD rips but I don't want to limit myself to just that.

no matter what you cd fags say, spotify has the highest audible audio quality possible. twist it as much as you want, your plastic collection has no advantage over my spotify account/ FLAC collection. and sitting myself in my cold cellar with my vinyl collection on a hot summer's say is infinitely more sovlful and purposeful than your soulless plastic hifi setup.

>>129948198
>he uses slopify
Opinion discarded. Get an account with an actual good streaming service and set up orpheusdl then you can be a part of this conversation.

I sell cds and records at shows. Spotify is more popular though.

44.1khz / 16 bit is a joke. Gimme the 15 ips tape.

>>129948300
>not 30 IPS
ngmi

>>129948228
spotify is the best streaming service, retard

>>129948364
I can't download lossless music from it so it has zero value to me.

>>129948863
it's still a 10/10 for discovery, going through discographies and phone/car-listening

>>129947896
>have no purpose
But enough about the faggot who has literally been raging for two days in two separate threads over a format and how other grown adults choose to listen to their music

>>129948901
I have Apple Music for that

>>129948198
You know what else you should do in that cellar? Hang yourself

>>129948901
>he uses algorithms to discover new music
KWAMD (kek what a mindless drone)

>>129948985
Yeah I don't need clankers to tell me what music I should be listening to.

>>129948985
lol no. I only listen to albums and discographies. How would you even do that without streaming?

>>129940960
Bigger = better, it's that simple

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>>129947540
>SACDs are the way to go.
based. Vinyl and steaming fags can't compete

>>129949022
I download entire discographies in FLAC. I build my collection using my own criteria for what is the best. If needed I read stevehoffman forums or RED comments. If no relevant information is available I choose the earliest versions of albums on CDs that are the most complete. Preference for releases with Japanese bonus tracks and things like that. If the versions I want are missing sometimes I just buy the CD myself to rip and upload to private trackers. I share everything I get on Soulseek too.

>>129947540
>>129949049
Depends on the mastering for the specific SACD. It's a case by case basis. Also if you're not playing it back on actual DSD equipment it is a good idea to use a proper filter for your PCM conversion:

http://s-audio.systems/dsd-filter/?i=2

>>129949063
I do all of this but I buy CDs too. Generally I thrift or buy used but have bought a few new.

>>129938479
They still rot away after 10 to 20 years.

what do CD fags think of panchiko? Real or fake?
>>129949063
>>129949049
>>129948300

>>129938479
>Better sound
In terms of what criteria? Analog? Debatable.
Digital like the lossless files you keep in your HD? Lol retard, it's the same fucking thing, retard.

>>129949507
hello Andy no one believes the whole panchiko story

>>129938500
I would argue that vinyl (analog) sounds anal compared to digital. Vinyls are a meme.

More pertinent question: are people really nostalgic for physical media, or are they just nostalgic for the time before streaming?

>>129949518
Well I don't think there is conclusive proof either way. But the presentation does seem to be constructed to appeal to modern sensibilities don't you think? Weebs and their relationship with Japanese culture were very different in the year 2000. I purposely avoid everything that dresses itself up in anime aesthetics yet is western from modern times because I think it is all very cringe. This seems to fit with that.

>>129949755
Consider that I never really fully moved on to streaming in the first place and kept pirating. In the old days I'd buy CDs just because I liked specific albums even though I could download them from the internet for free. This has evolved into me collecting special versions of albums I can't download for free, or that haven't had a perfectly preserved version uploaded to the internet yet. I'm archiving music now.

>>129947288
>sharethreads
Shame one singular sperg killed them.

>>129949755
Personally I'm wired to have a physical or at least a FILE of something I listen to a lot. Internet connections were more spotty in the old days but even today they sometimes go down and leave you without your virtual library.

>>129945753
Where did you get the FLCL album?

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I picked up these bluray audio discs at the record store and think ill start collecting these. More practical than SACDs and i do have an ATMOS setup

>>129938479
>streaming for the artists who will never have physical media, or who i don't have physical media for (yet)
>CDs for the artists I play a lot
>vinyls for the artists who will never be uploaded on the 'net in good fidelity
>listen to the vinyls at home, the CDs in the car, and the streams on-the-go when not in my own car
>can share any of them
>still listen to music
>still like listening to music
>/mu/tants could never
Love me some live shows too. I've been legitimately thinking about buying a cheap copy of the Walkman just as an excuse to buy city pop and barberbeats cassettes. And I bet there's some gigachad out there who's outdone me by collecting 8-tracks or pressing their own vinyls for giggles. Listening to music is more fun than being gay and arguing with other gays about not liking formats. You should try it sometime.

>>129949079
That is pretty useful, thanks.

>>129948300
>44.1khz / 16 bit is a joke
The joke is that it exceeds the limits of human hearing.
>Gimme the 15 ips tape
Just fuck up your FLACs with a tape simulation plugin.

>>129938479
Physical media is autistic as fuck at this point

>>129952078
Anything that is actually good is now for the most part. Convenience is valued over quality.

>>129952078
rather be autistic than pay streaming berg an endless subscription

>>129952163
I don't pay, music is free on the internet

>>129952186
rather be autistic than not properly support artists

>>129952835
MANY are saying this

>>129952835
How are you "supporting artists" by buying CDs at thrift stores?

>>129955463
I buy them new most of the time dumb dumb get them less than £10 if you shop around. But if I get a cheap CD I'll buy it on bandcamp if I like it.

>>129956116
>dumb dumb
Why do you talk like a retarded baby? Well I guess you are one if you're spending money on music in 2026.

>>129956355
Because you're dragging me down to your level :(

It's like that saying about never arguing with an idiot, which I'll be doing from henceforth.

>>129956355
>supporting artists/bands is le bad
Fuck you, retard. Hope no one takes anything your bitch ass says seriously.

>>129956376
>>129956560
>redditspacing
>babytalks
>emojis
>nigspeak
>le

>>129956752
Seems like a nerve has been struck huh, faggot?

>>129956800
There's no argument to be had with you. You're an entitled dipshit who brags about not supporting bands. Nothing you say means anything

>>129950749
TIL these are a thing. Might buy one for the lolz Surely its diminishing returns at that point though

>>129938479
>More compact.
its literally the things name

>>129956787
If you start sputtering "le" and emoticons like a retarded redditor it's your nerve that was hit.

>>129938479
theyre just data storage, not much different from a flash drive, theres nothing inherently special about them except the industry decided a cylindrical disk was an easier transition from vinyl records

>>129958854
Getting triggered by shit that gets posted everyday on this and every single other board might mean you need to take your faggot ass back down to the cellar and hang yourself like i suggested several posts above.

>>129938561
>CD rot - they often don't last more than 20 years without problems
That only applies to cheap CD-Rs produced in the late 1990s-early 2000s, commercially released CDs used higher quality coating that doesn't rots. My music CDs from the 1980s still work while some of my CD-Rs from the 2000s are done for.

>>129945753
>Soda Stereo
ZAZED

>>129944757
>>129949518
kys retard schizo zoomer, PANCHIKO was 100% real. Obviously the 1st copy found was damaged because it was pretty much junked, but private collectors have found better copies since then.

>>129959043
it was not. he couldn't possible have known about Laputa, especially the french dub.

These are the most jewish threads I've ever seen on this board

>>129958952
>theyre just data storage, not much different from a flash drive, theres nothing inherently special about them
cds are a hard copy. cds were introduced 40yrs ago before modern tech. they offer perfect sound no matter how many times they are played. no other form of physical media offers that
>>129958998
>cheap CD-Rs
ive never had a problem with any commercial cd rotting and ive never had a problem with any cd-r rotting or becoming unplayable either. and i have many going back to the turn of the century

>>129959103
Go back to /pol/

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>>129959070
Zoomer, anime is not some obscure mystical thing your broccoli-headed generation discovered, it was already huge in the 90s, let alone 2000.

>>129959212
no french dub existed. he lied

>>129959353
>ha! he couldn't remember the exact date of a thing he saw on TV decades ago, therefore it's all a le hoax by the deep state to target me and make me buy a $10 CD!
ok schizo

>>129959414
he lied that's a fact.

>>129959449
True

CD are actually workse than casettes.
They get scratched inevitably with time, even if you take great care. A lot of my 20year old CDs keep skipping tracks now. And they've been sitting in a box for years.
Whereas if I play some casettes they're like new. The laser head that reads CDs is much more sensitive to flaws, so it doesn't take much to reject a unit

>>129964048
All the old ass 80s and 90s CDs I keep buying from Japan are in pristine condition. None of them are scratched up. Maybe you just handle your CDs like a child does.

>>129964048
Do they have concentric rings on the playing surface?

>>129940531
what is bad about pirating

>>129964048
>A lot of my 20year old CDs keep skipping tracks now
Your player needs cleaning or repair. I have used CDs from the 80s/90s, some seriously scratched, and they all play fine.
>>129964197
The only kind of scratch that will make a good CD player skip. But unless it actually cut into the metal layer you can polish it out.