was spengler right about western music??is it truly the most faustian art that strives towards the infinite??
We reached the peak with LMFAO Sorry for Party Rocking, and it was clear music had nowhere to go but down from there
>>129967259>megalopolitan artlole
Nobody here listens to music or reads.
>>129967247Can you explain this to me OP? It's out of context and I don't get it at all
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>>129969368western art, and hence music, contains more than the piece itselfthe impressions it evokes more than the artwork itselfwestern music mediates between the listener and the infinite it evokes, instead of merely existing as a work in itselffor classical music on the other hand, the contains itself and itself onlyclassical man had no sense of depth, no sense of something greater behind the works themselvesto them, everything, including art, were self-contained and individualized objects that existed in themselvesthere was no background in which things exist; only foregroundfor him, man was the center of the world-as-nature; static and become, and hence completefaustian man on the other hand is the center of the world-as-history, tumultuous and hence ever changing. ever striving outwards towards the infinite
>>129969402lol
He was a mystic who was wrong about literally everything, shouldnt we be living in an age of kings by now according to him?
>>129972130his predictive power was weak sure, but what's wrong with his analysis??
>>129972130No. Spengler never wrote about an "age of kings" ?And Spengler considered oil painting as the peak form of Faustian Art
>>129975819i assume they meant a modern day czarism with that post>And Spengler considered oil painting as the peak form of Faustian Arttbf he said so because of how ``musical'' western oil painting was
these kinds of books are the biggest wastes of time. makes me question the judgement of people who take this shit seriously.
>>129970336wall of faggotry
>>129978644>>129978655illiterate retard
>>129978644what criticisms do you have?? or did you not even bother to read or even at least engage with it??
>>129979246yupjust as i thought
>>129979246Its basically just verbose traditionalist waffle. All vibes, zero scholarly rigor.
>>129981902Brianwashed Marxist spotted
>>129981902you could've just owned up to never reading or engaging with it yk
>>129981950-_-
>>129967247imagine taking German Romantic babblespeak seriously lmaoo
>>129984071>Romanticretard
>>129984071people like spengler and evola to an extent are basically ur-incels. losers for most of their lives that made a lot of scathing criticisms and predictions (many of which turned out wrong) about society all because art forms they didn't like were springing up.
>>129967247Western music, both classical and modern, actually has a tendency to lean more towards drama than transcendence. Indian Classical, Gamalan, and certainly the musical chanting of various Eastern religions, reflects a more deliberate attempt to connect with "the infinite" than Wagner or Beethoven.Don't get my wrong, I love classical music, but that except from Spengler is just ego-driven, nationalistic hyperbole typical of Germans at that time.
>>129985856>t. never read either of them
>>129985924>has a tendency to lean more towards dramawymlike narrativity or are you invoking dramatic structure specifically??