Try to convince me that viking metal should be a real genre based on sound, and I’ll tell you why you are wrong>le hammerheartit’s a very unique album yes, but it could easily be described as blackened epic doom/thrash. It’s no different normalizing extreme metal as a genre because Celtic Frost is unique when they just blurred black, death, thrash, and doom metal.Anyways if Hammerheart was made by Italians and given an Ancient Roman theme/aesthetic but everything else is the same, would it be called “legionnaire metal” instead?In a marketing stance Viking metal makes more sense as a lyrical theme than anything. What do you think people would first have in mind when it comes to vikings, a band that sings about vikings, or a small group of pseudo-nordic folk/black metal bands nobody cares besides haploautistic nordicucks?
>>130018093you're not nearly as smart as you think you are, in fact, you write like a total retard
>>130018104wow, a great counterargumentreally convinced me
>>130018093"viking metal" has always meant black or folk metal bands that talk about longboats and shit.
>blackened epic doom/thrashMade up genre, viking metal was coined to describe this sound first.Viking metal is not a lyrical theme; Bands like Amon Amarth aren't considered viking metal for example.Viking metal is similar to war metal conceptually in the sense that it specifically describes a sound that formed within first-wave black metal and carried over to second-wave black metal. In viking metal's case, it's a synthesis between black metal/proto-black metal with Scandinavian folk themes, folk instruments, or chord progressions seen in Scandinavian folk music.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_jz-pbHElg
>>130018093>>130018139>Anyways if Hammerheart was made by Italians and given an Ancient Roman theme/aesthetic but everything else is the same, would it be called “legionnaire metal” instead?Further more, if Hammerheart was made to be Italian/Ancient Roman but kept everything else the same, it would just come across as really bizarre and inconsistent because there's nothing musically about that album resembling the musical traditions of Italy or the ROmans.
>>130018139i guess i’d be fine treating viking metal as a microgenre/fusion like war metal is, but nothing moresome people use it too much as a standalonemelodeath being a standalone genre makes far more sense, much of it hardly sounds like death metal anywaysthe naming is a misnomer because anyone who’s not hyperknowledged in metal would use it for any viking-themes band
>>130018151there’s nothing historically consistent about ancient norse music either, which we hardly know much about
>>130018152>the naming is a misnomer because anyone who’s not hyperknowledged in metal would use it for any viking-themes bandAnd that's why you're supposed to call it out and correct it.There's a reason nobody calls viking themed melodeath or viking themed power metal "viking metal" in a serious context. You won't find it labelled viking metal on sites or in more serious discussions.
>>130018161but what if you keep the exact same sound, but have a bunch of kenyans sing about Kalenjin themes?if viking metal must exist, we should give it a different name
>>130018167>but what ifNo, go be autistic somewhere else.
>>130018139i’d call song link melodeathdoesn’t sound like traditional old school melodic death metal, but then again, a lot of bands labeled as melodeath these days doesn’t resemble death metal
>>130018182>song link melodeathYou are either deaf, or so new to metal that you shouldn't be in any fucking place to make threads like these.
Whole Bathory viking era is just Manowar worship.
Dont yarrr forget about your piratemateys
>>130018254get the fuck outta here
>>130018093viking metal is a subgenre of black metal with slower doom-like riffs and retarded "martial" drums reconstructed on samplers or DAWs.
>>130018204I thought this was just a shitpost back in the day but it's actually completely true. Every single viking era Bathory song is just a rip off of Manowar's Gates of Valhalla.
>>130018196if you give it normal vocals, it’s just heavy metal with some atmosphere