you'd think that the indie music community, who are self-righteous, bleeding-hard leftists, would be against a corporation buying accounts to infiltrate and shill their productsyet I stand corrected
>>130018773The left stopped caring about economics or rich vs poor a long time ago
You’d think a right wing Christian grifter would know not to support that greasy ass bell pepper nose and Merlyn… https://youtu.be/yNmta1gFjxU
>>130018773>some gay fucking e-celeb>"the left">i am very intelligent
>>130018822To modern leftoids "rich vs poor" is entirely based on vibes.
>>130018773>"indie music community">fagtanoAre you retarded?
Why are you making this about politics?
>>130018773>you'd think that the indie music community, who are self-righteous, bleeding-hard leftists would refuse to perform or attend the Coachella MAGA fundraiser.yeah a whole lot of stuff makes sense when you realize the rich kid musicians, even the ones yelling about how they're anti-Trump, are all secret MAGA trash who want to abolish estate taxes.https://popular.info/p/coachella-performers-are-funding>inb4 buttblasted MAGA trash snivel "this belongs in pol!"no more so than OP talking about "bleeding-heart leftists". this board is for discussing music and musicians, and we're doing just that.
>>130019459Estate taxes *should* be abolished.
>>130019506found the rich kidwho knows, maybe if they abolish the estate tax you can use the extra money to fund a psyop for your own band; you'll be stars like Geese!
>>130019512Cry about it, wagie
Everyone is super mad Geese's record label did their job of promoting the band
>>130019585This just doesn't work when we're in the algorithm age and manipulation of the algorithm is what's in play here. Conflating record labels engaging in algorithmic whoring with traditional forms of promotion is disingenuous at best. The issue is scaled logarithmically with the concurrent effect on society of the given technology. We're not talking about running an ad campaign in Melody Maker, even if at face value they're functionally the same thing. NPC faggot.
>>130018773The future is paid shills and bots constantly promoting bands all over social media to heavily skew the algorithm, and you'll like it chud
>>130018773Positive Fantano press probably came in the package they bought from Chaotic Good Projects.>>130019656This. In the 90s indie bands would get ostracized just for signing with a major label. Now we got faggots trying to normalize corporate payola.
>>130018773>REEEEE MARKETING IS LE BAD, THAT THEY'RE DOING IT FOR LEFTIST MUSICIANS IS HYPOCRISY!when you're a fucking authoritarian fascist, literally everyone is a "leftist" to you. These days, even free-market capitalists are too far left for MAGA trash.So yeah even if your very dubious initial assertion (that indie music community are all 'bleeding hard'[sic] leftists) is correct, there's nothing hypocritical about them wanting to have their stuff properly marketed.The real hypocrisy is in performing at the Coachella MAGA fundraiser, but that's a different conversation.>>130019520>REEEEEEEE ESTATE TAXES ARE WOKE LIB TERRIBLE END THEM NOW!who's crying exactly?
>>130019842there was tons of payola in the 90s
>bleeding-hardread morepost less
>>130019842>This. In the 90s indie bands would get ostracized just for signing with a major label.LOL they'd sign anyway and do just fine.>reeee normalizeeen corporate payolait's been normalized for decades. you're massively deluded &/or coping if you think any of this so-called "psyop" marketing is anything new.
>>130018773leftists love corporations ever since the right became the conspiracy people
>>130018773>bleeding-hard leftists>melonheadRemember when he was accused of being right wing?
it's funny how many threads i've seen about this but no one actually dissecting what fantano said. pretty sure everyone seething over the video hasn't actually watched it.
>>130018773This guy is such an insufferable ugly faggot. The fact he has an audience is beyond me.
>>130018773>would be against a corporation buying accounts to infiltrate and shill their productsJUDGE MUSIC BY THE MUSIC, NOT WHO FUCKING MADE IT
>>130019656>>130019842We got a lot more good bands from the industry spoonfeeding the masses than the alternative
>>130020342Blame /mu/
anthony fantano’s review of chappel roan midwest princess is him crying for a few minutes. why the fuck does anyone take this guy srsly? listen to the music yourself
>>130020342I just wish he would grow his hair out a year and just see for fun if it makes him a ton more fuckable.
>40 minute videoyeah, I'll pass
>>130020262do you actually know what a leftist is
>>130020585he barely has any hair, that's why he shaves it.
>>130018887>some gay fucking e-celeb>"the left"Um, correct? That is indeed what the left is
>>130020564you're not wrong. the /mu/ Fantano hate threads have probably driven engagement for him. as I said above, all press is good press.
>be pro-shill>argue that rich people and industry insiders should get to shape the narrative of what music is cool and popular through bots and paid accounts larping as organic fansor>be anti-shill>argue that everyone should be equally at the mercy of the almighty souless algorithmwhat a fun choice, I love living in the future
>>130020781>argue that rich people and industry insiders should get to shape the narrative of what music is cool and popular through bots and paid accounts larping as organic fansimagine pretending this hasn't always been the way the music industry has operated, albeit with different technologies & means.
>>130020781>>130020781>argue that everyone should be equally at the mercy of the almighty souless algorithmimplying that the algorithm is somehow neutral... you actually believe that the "soulless algorithm" is not driven by rich people and industry insiders?
>payola and inorganic marketing pushes have been around forever
>>130018822>The left stopped caring about economics or rich vs poor a long time agoNo, the left (as in leftists) cares about that. Liberals don't.t. socially progressive/SJW liberal who's extremely pro-capitalism and pro-billionaire and who utterly despises leftists
>>130020859nobody says it's good. nice strawman attempt though. The point is there's all this "REEEEEE Geese was a psyop!" as if that kind of music marketing is some brand new thing that is only now just happening.Nothing new under the sun, life isn't fair and never has been. cope harder.or hey, how about proposing an alternative instead of just screeching "inauthentic!"
>>130018773fantano is paid by the same press firms that do this, in fact very likely the exact one that uses cheap mu shills and needledrop and rym fake reviews from a big network of accounts that aren’t technically bots on paper. i’ve received mail from these firms trying to get me to buy a package for my band. it’s always obvious which ones opt in with a 50k etc. and then you see then suddenly get a fantano review whwn they were unknown and then a boat load of rym reviews, and what do you know look at the ahem organic mu threads
>>130021019yep, that's the business. it's all marketing.I still don't understand what all the screeching and complaining is about then. If someone recommends a band or makes a stink about a band, I'll give them a listen, and if i like it, I'll listen some more. If I don't then I won't. I don't give a fuck what combination of marketing + algorithms and industry insiders have brought the band or album to my attention. It still comes down to me listening to and deciding whether I like the album/artist or not.>buh buh your tastes, those "like/not like" decisions are warped by the AI shill marketing psyopsure maybe, but so what? It might be that as an old person, I really don't care who else is into an artist, who the artist's music is "for", so my perception of the music isn't clouded by those market-driven insecurities.I just don't understand what all the crying is about. Life is unfair, some bands come from insane privilege/money/industry contacts and some don't. Why is this news to anyone?
>>130018773Let people be excited about new rock n roll bands.
>>130021383let rock bands get popular the old fashioned way and not through shady marketing methods then.
>>130021104psrt of the faux shock and outrage IS the shills because internet debate drives clicks
>>130020605yes but these modern ones who claim "leftism: are just corporation boot lickers
>>130021426>let rock bands get popular the old fashioned wayyou mean where they get signed to a big record label that then promotes them everywhere?
>>130021451no argument there. I maintain that all of the threads complaining about the Geese psyop are actually perpetuating the Geese psyop.
>>130021451part of it but not all. incels love making hating things their entire personality.
>>130018773geese was a psyop lame shitand you're a faggot along with mu for making fantanothreads and posting on them
