>Listen to classical geniuses>Nothing but masturbation to how much technique they can do and how much theory they knowIs classical music the musical version of philosophical pseudointelectual word salads?
It's similar in the sense that drooling retards (such as yourself) think anything above their reading level is just trying to sound smart
>>130030047op btfo kek
>>130030017you are dumb as fuck
I'll be outside, having a smoke and being glad that however much I'll fuck up, I'll never be as big a disappointment as you probably are to your parents.wtf
>>130030017Its okay, classical music wasn't made for the likes of you. Its better if it stays that way.
I agree with you OP. A lot of classical music lacks emotion because a lot of it was written for background music while the elite of 1763 was eating their dinners. It wasnt meant to make you happy or sad, it was essentially todays pop music. Mozart was nothing more than a birthday DJ, the Calvin Harris of 400 years ago.
>>130030017>Nothing but masturbation to how much technique they can do and how much theory they knowThat's a stupid way to look at it, it was a grand pursuit of musical knowledge that is very valuable to this dayThe thing is most people simply don't really about care about listening to classical because they want something more digestible and relatable. They're not gonna appreciate its grand complexity because it simply doesn't matter to them, it doesn't stir any strong emotional connection, which is what music is ultimately for. Classicalfags are too far up their ass to understand this. It is not classical music, but classicalfag posts that are philosophical pseudointelectual word salads
>>130030047okay, allow me to missconstrue the concomitation that the purpose of my previous comunication have misslead the mental process that caused the conjuction towards the release of the fixture in the screen of your common sense maquinations.Mit-wits like urself read this shit and think is 150 IQ to write word salads.
>>130030168>Read fux gradus at parnassum>Mit wits think is deepIf anything classical music follow strict rules like classical poetry.To pretend is harderd than modern EDM production or modern day shit like computer science and philosophy and math is hilarious.classical music is just knowing enough rethorical tricks and rules to know how to write it.
>>130030191>I can write gibberish with big words, therefore everybody who uses big words is writing gibberish
>>130030216>gibberishanon, is just a basic style of writing that you can write if you fucking read books.
>>130030224big words tend to have more specific meanings. using big words where their narrower definition is appropriate = good. using big words that you found googling synonyms for the sake of it without improving the clarity of your writing = pseud gibberish. hope this helps.
>>130030210Classical music basically invented those strict 'rules', your logic is backwards
>>130030274classical music has no structure
>>130030279Why did I even waste my time in this thread, you're just baiting or retarded kys
>>130030071>I'll be outside, having a smoke and being glad that however much I'll fuck up, I'll never be as big a disappointment as you probably are to your parents.Alright, I actually spent the time looking for a house to rent together with my 80yo dad.Should be fun.
>>130030266my point is that a lot of classical music is just the same type of eloquence as word salads.>>130030274sure, but they're not dificult or complex, just like how poetry metric isn't dificult or complex.
>>130030303Also, time to get the 303clone out again.
>>130030434just like it's possible to use advanced vocabulary to express more nuanced ideas, it's possible to use advanced theory and technique to express more complex musical ideas and emotions.
>>130030461I dont consider music to be a complex medium.At least not after studying STEM shit.That's why is hilarious to me classical fags to be, mmm, this shit is like super deep and philosophical shit nigga.When is just elementary school math.
>>130030602we can use formal notation and "math" to explain how a piece of music works to an extent, but ultimately why a particular chord progression or melody and rhythm makes you feel a certain way is not something theory can fully explain. that's the art part of it. Music is magic that we attempt to control through theory. (I have a stem degree too btw).
You will only feel this way if you listen to classical composers like Bach, Mozart, Beethoven who are now the most popular but were not the most popular of their time. But if you listened to say Handel over Bach, Haydn over Mozart, or Tchaikovsky/Verdi/Chopin over Beethoven/Brahms/Wagner, you’ll find lots to love in those guys’ work. Overly serious academic types will always choose the most pretentious shit to conserve, in music, books, movies, etc.
>>130030740yeah, but then is not superior in qualities to modern music.Plenty of even videogame composers like uematsu are masters in creating emotional tunes with harmony.What I am mocking is the snobbery of pretending classical shit has high IQ concepts that make it superior to other genres.>>130030813I do find I deeply enjoy EDM remixes of classical masters, more than the originals.
>>130030602>I can easily pinpoint every mathematical concept in this music, therefore it has no emotional valueAnon, you are infinitely more pretentious than every classical composer combined
>>130030991I never said it was inherently superior, but it does have an expanded toolbox and that can be used to express interesting musical ideas. sure it can also be used for pretentious gibberish, but your wholesale dismissal of hundreds of years of composers is ridiculous, and we're just repeating ourselves now.
>>130031074the average classical shit doesn't express an emotion, since that's more a post beethoven thing.If anything modern music has more emotion than a fugue or other technical exercise in the baroque.>>130031136I'm not dissmissing it, I just find no particular superiority to modern composers or other non western styles.La campanella is not a particular complex work if you remove the ornaments.
>>130031171>I'm not dissmissing it>Nothing but masturbation to how much technique they can do and how much theory they know
>>130030017do people think they're smart for listening to music they didn't create? LMAO
>do people think they're smart for reading books they didn't write? LMAO
>>130030017>listen to classical geniuses>be retarded peak Dunning-Kruger faggot with no attention span or knowledgeWhat did you expect would happen?
>>130030017>>130030191>>130030210>>130030602People who avatarfag as cats are always the dumbest retards on this website.
>>130031223Don't bother. OP (like all self-absorbed, insecure morons) is making it up as he goes. Garbage thread is garbage.
>>130030602I love this. Every time a STEMfag wanders outside their lane, you get this exact kind of confident nonsense, or worse. It's a very predictable and basic category error, judging an aesthetic, temporal art form by the standards of a formal symbolic system and then acting surprised it does not behave like equations. People get competent in one highly structured field and then either assume that model is universal or get overconfident and start waltzing into other disciplines, embarrassing themselves in the process. Instead of recognizing their limits, they dumb the entire field down to match their level of understanding, so music becomes elementary math not because it is but because that's as far as they're capable of understanding it. Then they turn around and call philosophy dumb while walking straight into basic fallacies themselves, which is almost impressive in a way. Of course something as basic as emotion in classical music goes completely over their head.
