It's been 10 years since Prince passed away. Let's have a memorial thread.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVvEfey2bmg
>>130045296I won't forgive him for ruining While My Guitar Gently Weeps with his faggot over the top "LOOK AT ME" solo
>>130045311It was a shit song already. Good on Prince for burying it.
>>130045311>>130045410You can both choke on your pubebeards
>>130045433I like Prince
>>130045311It was necessary to put guitarlets in their place
>>130045296>been 10 years sinceAlready?!
>>130045454>implyingThe entire solo was just him doing wacky bends and whammy spam with the tone doing the heavy lifting
>>130045296https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef7nxKykzKs
>>130045311He was also being honored that night yknow. Plus in the only rehearsal Jeff Lynne played on top of him as a weird flex or something which pissed him off, so that over the top solo was his way to get back at him. The funny thing is no one knew what pissed off Prince was going to when his turn to solo arrived.
>>130045311Go to bed Eric
>>130045296Bro is low-key ugly
>>130047256Once you grow up you realize Prince was a mullato manlet with an ego the size of mount everest and he stops being cool
>>130047271Never liked him lol
Ugly brown midget.
>>130047150>Jeff Lynne played on top of him as a weird flex or something which pissed him off, so that over the top solo was his way to get back at him.That is totally a Prince move
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>>130045296https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBUFWnaKom8This live version of Joy In Repetition i feel shows Prince playing lead at his best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikZgBhSMSUM&sometimes it snows
>>130045311hating someone for excellence is a very zoomer/boomer trait. in your world we would only have nepo babies/ industry plants making music and talented people would not be allowed to have platforms- oh wait thats pretty much the world we live in now!
>>130047763https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDMU6Ft0938
>>130050032Noice never seen that
>>130047150He had also recently been left out of some guitar magazine’s top ranking or whatever, which allegedly contributed to the pissiness
When Doves Cry is his only good song
>>130050474The guy known for singing about having freaky funky sex over a generic drum machine beat wasn't considered one of the world's greatest guitarists???This right here is a great example of his ego and why I never got his appeal. He truly thought he was better than everyone at everything and regularly had pissy fits when people didn't bow down to him. I know he could play the guitar well, but no one considered Prince a guitarist above his many other titles. Hell, I think he was better on the bass than the guitar. The guy always seemed disconnected from reality a bit, the result of having nothing but yes-men at his side for so long.
he was a bit of a fruit and a weird looking rooster, but I miss himhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TtgVujDJ9U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8l9qFojF5c
>>130051618He said his playing was influenced by Santana as well as Hendrix and it shows
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sordWByWM-M
>>130045311that's the Best Part of the performance!
>>130052086Yeah prince made no secret about his Santana worship and played covers of his songs live quite often and they played together more than a few times. The fun part about this medley though is after he played it Carlos noticed and played it himself, it was called the "santana sandwich" on his bootlegs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zows-txxKaU
1990s Prince best Prince.
>>130051660It reminds me, that documentary also had great rendition of The Ladder from a soundcheck thats never been released anywhere and people pieced it together on youtube but i'd love to get a full version one day.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq60AmkB9-U
>>130052207ergh meant for >>130052111
>>130052191Yeah, definitely underappreciated because of the whole record contract dispute in that period.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NGEjbgIJbg
>>130052231The first half of his 2000s stuff is also good.
>>130051618>>130052155Mark of respect to each other that's cool. Cloud guitar with humbuckers really had the Santana sound but i love Prince's Jap Tele wish i could afford one>>130052191Can't agree. Is that the record he butchers Bonnie Raitt's I Can't Make You Love Me?
>>130052331>Is that the record he butchers Bonnie Raitt's I Can't Make You Love Me?lol nah thats on Emancipation a year or 2 later which i agree was probably 3 CD's worth of material that could have safely stayed in the vault.
17 Days > When Doves Cry
>>130052371Ah yeh just checked the track listings Gold Exp had all that NPG operator interlude crap and then something as amazing as Most Beautiful Girl... he really needed a good editor to filter all the shit and keep the diamonds and pearlsAlso i totally support the artists right to own their masters but Prince was massively supported by his record label
>>130052427yeah its a double edge sword, he never had a producer his whole carer and its what makes most of his 80's output so incredible, but back then he had a better sense of what to keep and what to leave out and he was forced into promoting and touring albums properly by his label. The 90's post the contract drama period was pure stream of consciousness and he was also struggling with his place in the popular music space with the rise of rap and electronic music and he was in a weird space i think. By the 2000's he had a better sense of himself and what he was doing and played to his own audience more even though he wasnt so much a pop star anymore, but it was a rough period but still had a bunch of gems, you just had to wade through a lot of shit to find them.I also agree somewhat about Warner as his label, his manager even says he was too focused on having the biggest contract everm bigger than MJ and Madonna etc and screwed himself and regretted it.
>>130051266>I know he could play the guitar well, but no one considered Prince a guitarist above his many other titles.He was considered one of the greats tho, specially from those in the know who worked with him. You gotta listen to his bootlegs and live shows to get a grasp how good he really was, which is something casuals don't do. At his best he was sort of like a fusion of Hendrix pyrotechnics and Santana's melodic sense.
>>130052191For me, it's Come, with Diamonds & Pearls not far behindhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZOhskMsqzI&list=PLxm7Pdj3RZgkVYnUDFhMa6Ms7Yl1-zrrO&index=4
>>130052836No one but Prince fans would consider Prince one of the greatest on guitar. This is where the conversation gets weird. I don't deny his skill and precision, but he didn't actually release much guitar focused music. I'm going to judge an artist on their released works, not bootleg copies of him shredding in some small club at 2am (trying to show off to less successful musicians), or other works that even he didn't deem worthy of release. If you consider his actual releases, he's not even notable amongst professional guitarists. He's a pop artist who could play guitar very well.
>>130045311Prince's solo was kino
>>130045296>t's been 10 years since Prince passed awayThat can't be right.
>>130053163Yeah ok faggot
>>130045410It's the only tolerable Beatles song.
>>130051266I am curious to know your opinion on Dave Mustaine and Yngwie Malmsteen
>>130053558I don't agree with the poster to whom you replied, to me Prince was equally rock and pop star, but I don't believe that quote by Grohl. I think he is lying.
>>130053558What's your point? Dave Grohl, who absolutely no one in the world considers an amazing guitarist, says Prince is the best guitarist, so that settles it? Come on. Even Grohl says It himself... Prince was an 80s idol. He had a cult of personality. Grohl liked him because he was a superstar when Grohl was a kid. You'll often find no one cites Prince as the best at anything unless they either grew up obsessed with him, or played in his backing band (where they would be blackballed from the industry if they upset him or didn't praise him)He was talented, but he wasn't in contention for being best at anything, besides maybe shitting out as much music as humanly possible. He was a larger-than-life egomaniac that made his cult followers think he was the best, and that's his real legacy; being an absolute menace to other artists, who mostly kept their mouths shut for fear that criticizing Prince would ruin their careers.
He's heading homehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2bOp45EFgo
>>130053591Yngwie, eh I don't enjoy neo-classical. But he's obviously more skilled at the guitar than most. Not a very creative guitarist, but a skilled one.Dave Mustaine, big fan. Not so much his voice, but his guitar-focused songwriting is fantastic. Not that I keep a list of "best rhythm guitarists," but he'd absolutely be on there for speed and complexity alone.Now, do I consider them the greatest guitarist of all time? Idk, but they're better than fucking Prince because they actually made a career off their guitars. Prince made dance songs and slapped a guitar solo with boomer bends on top. It's not even comparable.
>>130053671I don't believe Grohl listened to Prince in the 80s. Maybe Priest, but not Prince. Grohl, like Corgan, have been coming out as spokespersons of the music industry in these latter years, so they will give positive feedback and annoint legend status to any high-selling artists.
>>130053738What is funk? Can you dance to it? Can you solo over it?Do yoy know who Eddie Hazel was?I asked you your opinion about those two because they equally have high egos. You try to make a point that on first look makes sense, that they are more skilled than Prince and that this they display and base their careers on. So let me put this in context and ask you further: do you believe Mustaine and Yngwie are more skilled than Richie Blackmore, Carlos Santana, Jimi Hendrix and Angus Young?
>>130053841You're just muddying the conversation. Im not going to do this all day with an ever increasing list of successful guitarists. The point is these are all people who made a living SPECIFICALLY playing their guitar, I don't give a fuck wether malmsteen was or wasn't better than Angus Young. Prince made pop music and is not as relevant (as those people you listed) to the history of guitar in the grand scheme of things, even if he was skilled at it. Stop comparing apples to oranges. A closer comparison would be Taylor Swift.
>>130053805for what purpose? you sound retarded
>>130054400Prince's roots are in funk. Prince also made a career playing the guitar.>>130054610Marketing? Promotions?
>>130045296Thanks OP for starting the thread.He would be...67 if still alive.But jokes aside, he died way too young.Wiki says he died with drugs laced with fent, so was the dealer ever charged?In the end did religion kill Prince? He put off having surgery because he didn't want blood transitions.He was a machine back in the day. For a period of time is was so big. Solo, with bands, writing songs for others, producing his groups like Vanity 6, what he did with The Time. I love that 1980s Minneapolis sound. He wore purple, dressed like a girl sometimes and 100% owned that shit. A short guy that still got the ladies. Likely left behind so much stuff in his vault!He was not without his ego tho, like denying Weird Al, not wanting to collab with MJ, invited to "We Are The World" recording session but didn't want to record in a group with everyone else, tried people weird at his recording studio of they swore (I don't remember the whole thing). He was weird, but very talented.>>130045311Fuck you. Pick up a guitar and do a better job, faggot.
I WOULDDIE4UI like this cover:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dFJygfa6VI
>>130055424Blood transfusions anon, transfusions
>>130047440Turn your monitor on
>>130053675I find this to be a sadder songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4288Yucjus
>>130052524It is what it is. After SOTT i pretty much don't listen to any of his albums just the tracks i like
>>130055424Prince was a mix of ego and insecurity and probably inpossible to not have both given his career and upbringingThe fent issue is a countrywide problem. Hip pain is no joke i can understand why he got hooked on opiates. The Jehovah nutbagism because of Larry Graham should have been kicked out but if you've been living a degenerate lifestyle then all that nutbag puritanicalism appealsWhat's sad is he still had his voice and music chops when he died, but musically i'm not sure he knew where to go - Paisley Park became the prison that meant he was out of the music scene loop
>>130053558THE BEST THE BEST
I kinda didn't like the Purple Rain album that much. Opinions?
Dig if you will...a picture...
>>130053738What are boomer bends?>>130055424*transfusion*treated people weird, *if>>130055952My bad. Brain thinks one thing, hands type something else.>>130056427>Hip pain is no jokeToo much leaping off high things with high heels.It sucks IIRC Prince was always a pretty "clean" artist and he up and ODs on drugs.>been living a degenerate lifestyle then all that nutbag puritanicalism appealsVanity of Vanity 6 went full Christian I believe years later, then died a while back due to long standing issues to her drug abuse in the 80s. She wasn't even that old.I bet Prince was around alot of drugs back then...I bet he must have had a small taste of something.If Prince hadn't died back in 2016 he likely be closer to dying now, all those years of rough tours, the hip pain meds might have taken out an organ, who knows.>What's sad is he still had his voice and music chops when he diedYeah. Might not have seen a decline until 70. Even if he wasn't making hits, I still wanted him around.>but musically i'm not sure he knew where to go - Paisley Park became the prison that meant he was out of the music scene loopI'm sure he still bought music and listened to younger acts.I remember when Musicology hit that was considered a career comeback. I really liked that album and 3121. He was my first concert, I was way to young to appreciate it.
>>130056574Bit like MJ's Thriller the singles from PR are so big and played out it's hard to feel like it's an album. But even with that i think my personal favourite albums are SOTT, 1999, ATWIAD and maybe Dirty Mind but PR is still up there, just hear the deluxe version to see the songs that could/should have made it onto an album>Erotic City>We Can Fuck>Electric Intercourse>Dance Electric>Father's Song>God
>>130056694Erotic City is niiice.I only don't like Computer Blue and Darling Nikki from Purple Rain. I wont skip em tho.
>>130056692I've permnent hip pain from playing sport i can understand why Prince took the painkillers. Problem is fent is like 1000x more powerful than heroin so if some hanger on brought him a bad chink lab batch then it's easy to ODFunnily enough despite the Jehovah nutbags indirectly killing him i did like Raimbow Children. Art Official Age tooEnvious you got to see him live i wasn't into Prince until later and missed his gigs here - Musicology era had a great bandSay hypothetically if Prince was alive and you were his manager how would you guide his career?
>>130056782lol nta but they're my stand out favourites, the extended version of Computer Blue is amazing.
>>130056782Mad Erotic City was just a b-side i'd have it on PR easily. Not a fan of CB either but an anon here said Darling Nikki was a fav so i relistened - after the intro the track is a banger
>>130056812>Say hypothetically if Prince was alive and you were his manager how would you guide his career?Lol, that is a hard question to answer.First off, while I understand he had his reasons to be protective, I think he shot himself in the foot being so copyright heavy with his music and Youtube. People forget how baron Youtube was of his material before he died, and I always thought he shot himself in the foot regarding younger people discovering his music. The ad rev money he could have gotten! Funny to me as soon as he died they wasted no time throwing so much of his stuff online.Imagine had he lived to the TikTok age, would he have thrown a fit over zoomers and alphies using his music? I think this is where despite everything with him being so talented, he was getting a little out of touch. So I'd tell him to let the music flow online.And with regards to anything else, really, what would I say? The man had fuck you money, and would likely never be able to push his way back onto any meaningful chart (unless it was a "featured" collab tagged onto a top 40 pop star, and do you really see him playing second fiddle? ego too big). I remember when Black Sweat came out it sounded like such a Top 40 hit to me but no Top 40 station touched it. They did try and play something else from 3121 and most of the listeners didn't care for it (it was like a "is it hot or not?" radio segment). He could sell out tours forever and keep putting out music, and people would still see him cause he was mf Prince and he was funky. I don't know what other music style he could do. Maybe retrowave? I'd love for him to go back to that 80s sound drum sound but some artists don't like revisiting their old era of material.No idea if I answered your question right or not lol.
>>130056812>Say hypothetically if Prince was alive and you were his manager how would you guide his career?Not that he'd listen but I'd probably tell him to spend some time with his wife away from the spotlight for some time after they lost their child and not continue to work and go on Oprah and make her pretend everything is fine and make his wife lie to camera to promote a shitty album. I think it was the moment that he lost his soul.
>>130056858>Mad Erotic City was just a b-side i'd have it on PR easily.You could only put 45 mins of music on vinyl back then so unless it was a double album, he made cuts.But he was at the height of his fame here, I bet a Purple Rain double album would have still sold just as well. Would have made more money for everyone involved (I assume).More is not always a good thing though, I listened to Fleetwood Macs 1979 double album, the follow up to 1977's Rumors, and man I found it so boring outside of a few songs. Easily could have been a single LP.
>>130057093Ooop, used "shot and foot twice" kek.
>>130057093Yeh business wise i understand, even i wouldn't want my music on YT being from the pre-YT world. I don't think he had fuck you money because he spent shitloads and didn't earn the same level as MJHow to guide his later career musically is what i wonder about. Imo i'd tell him to sell Paisley Park or at least move out and go check out other music scenes. Work with some producers and current trending musicians and maybe that'd help him go viral just like Santana didHis dad was a jazz pianist who wouldn't teach him piano so that rejection always ate at Prince. He did try make a jazz(y) album (Madhouse) but not really memorable. So i think he was stuck between wanting to be a more advanced musician and being a pop star
>>130057094Yeh that would fuck up anyone's head>>130057133Double albums almost always suck. I'd drop Take Me Witb You and CB for Erotic City. Steely Dan's Aja is one of my fav albums only 7 songs and 40ish min but it's perfect. No filler
>>130045296gone.....but not forgotten.
>>130047256my work crush said I looked like him and I didn't know if she was implying I look gay or what but I didn't take it as a compliment and just accepted that I might be ugly
>>130057333>go viral just like Santana didHad no idea he did.To me he had is comeback in 1999.> jazz pianistSome kids think piano is boring, imagine a kid eager to learn and he says no. I wonder why he did that.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F8jjS3hCQRo
Why does Prince cause so much seethe?
why did 2016 reap so many souls? Price will forever be my goat.
>>130045296Just happened to be working my way through his discography again. I’m getting bored with it now after making it through 1996’s Emancipation, so I’ll stop there and give my rankings:1. Sign of the Times2. Purple Rain3. Parade4. Dirty Mind5. The Gold Experience 6. Lovesexy7. 19998. Love Symbol 9. Come10. Prince11. Diamond and Pearls12. Controversy 13. Chaos and Disorder14. Around the World In a Day15. Batman16. Emancipation17. Black Album18. For You19. Graffiti BridgeSOTT and Purple Rain stand above the rest, I went with SOTT because it’s more warm and playful. Early Prince was pretty icy. 1-7 are all classics though, 8-9 arguably so. I would say only Graffiti Bridge is an out and out stinker.
>>130059534yeah not bad i'd probably rank AtWiaD and the Black album a little higher myself and Emancipation down the bottom for me, I also like a bunch of Graffiti Bridge tracks so it hurts to see it last but for what was expected to be a 'Purple Rain 2' it really does stink I can understand you're worn out after emancipation but I'd only suggest you run through disc 3 from The Hits/The B-Sides compilation is definitely worth a listen and the Rainbow Children and Musicology are the best of his post 2000 work imho but dont touch the top 10 you listed to be fair.
>>130059632Didn't think much of ATWIAD initially but then it really grew on me to be top 5. Title track, Pop Life, Condition Of The Heart, The Ladder, Raspberry Beret, Paisley Park are classics. Retrospectively still ballsy to make such an album after PR too>>130059534Broadly agree with that list like other anon said i too rate ATWIAD highly and The Hits/B sides is where i started and probably the best place to start. SOTT is my clear #1 too. I'd suggest Art Official Age and Rainbow Children are worth a listenGraffiti Bridge is terrible but has some classic songs better found elsewhere>we can funkIt's a pale watered down version of We Can Fuck from the PR era (check it on the deluxe PR)>joy in repetitionAlbum version is lame but the live version is amazing i love ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBUFWnaKom8Parade i don't rate so highly as an album but it has Kiss (albeit that was really made by someone else) and Sometimes It Snows In April which is one of the most beautiful Prince songs
I don't get the hate. It's mostly very good.I'll admit, I do get a good laugh at this being used to torture brown people in Gitmo.
>>130051266>I know he could play the guitar well, but no one considered Prince a guitarist above his many other titles.I mean it's like how Billy Corgan probably was one of the best guitar players in the alt-rock 90s scene despite not being known for itBut you also just know those types of guitar lists will be throwing people on to them who can barely play, like Kurt Cobain, so it's not like they're even a good measure of pure skill either
>>130060109>It's mostly very good.is it though?Even on the tour he did to promote this album he didnt play hardly any of the songs and the lead single was Betcha by Golly Wow! which was absurd.
>>130060251I'm a die-hard Prince fan, and I enjoy it. Plenty of good tracks for a triple album. It's a solid 7.5/10.
>>130060277>I'm a die-hard Prince fani have a passing interest.
>>130057874what, prince is beautiful!? u are lucky if u look like him
>>130060315i can't believe people are in this thread calling him ugly
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>>130057874>be at work>look at anon>thinks about his facial features>oh, he looks like Prince!>a famous celebrity known for being stylish!>tells him so he knows that he looks like a stylish celebrity>???>somehow now he feels uglyanon... why are you like this...why have this negative perception of yourself and her intentions
>>130047256>>130047440Ugly uppity little buck who needs white CORRECTION.
>>130060109I am brown. They used David Gray's Babylon to torture - the horror... https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/world/2008/07/402548.html
>>130060109>I do get a good laugh at this being used to torture brown people in Gitmo.That's probably because your parents were shit
>>130060829The joke within the joke really took a toll on you, snowflake.
>>130056692>Vanityprince croaked the same age as her both were 57
>>130045296Princesisters, princebros, oh no...https://jefferym.substack.com/p/an-open-heartfelt-letter-to-the-prince>At the same time, the generation with direct lived memory of Prince is gradually ageing out of its role as the primary cultural transmitter, while younger audiences are forming their lasting reference points now, not later. If Prince is not deliberately reintroduced during this period, he does not simply arrive late to the next cycle. He risks being designed out of it.>This is no longer theoretical. It is visible in audience data and platform behaviour. Prince’s core fanbase is ageing and each year without strong activation reduces live attendance potential, collector demand, peer to peer transmission and living memory. Platform metrics now reflect that reality. On Spotify, the largest discovery platform in the world, Prince sits at roughly 21 million monthly listeners. That is real global reach but it is underweight relative to artists of comparable stature. Michael Jackson draws close to 60 million monthly listeners and Queen sits in a similar range. Prince’s footprint is a fraction of those benchmarks.>Daily demand indicators show the same pattern. Third party Spotify aggregation places Prince at roughly 1.3 million daily streams, compared with more than 12 million for Michael Jackson. These numbers are not a judgement on artistic importance. They are a signal about discovery mechanics. Consumption exists but exposure is uneven and largely passive. The catalogue is strong but the discovery pipeline is weak relative to its potential.
>>130061635Prince fans are fucking cult members. Crazier than flavor-of-the-day popwhore stans.
>>130061646...You don't really interact with much popfags, do you? Prince at least had good music going for him.
Without you loving me I know it’s gonna be lonely
>>130045311based and tasteful
