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Everything else is rubbish
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>>130101605
because there is beautiful piano expression in other genres as well such as Japanese Jazz
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>>130101718
>Jazz
a cat can make the same sounds if left on a piano
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go ahead, i don't care, but i will not like it if you post a thread about this every few hours for the next few years
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rubish opinion.
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>>130101867
no need to worry

I will just say

no album

no matter how praised by the city dwelling masses and subsoil inhabitant masses alike

will ever compare to just 1 minute of any symphony by any of the greats of the past centuries in Classical music

if you eant to waste your life on rubbish, you have made a very poor decision
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>>130101842
you are retarded and you dont even play, you likely dont even own a piano
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>>130101922
Why would I own a piano?

I listen to music, not play it.

do I need an orchestra in my garage too?

Do you have a cow in your patio waiting for next years slaughter or do you leave it to the professionals?
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>>130101605
Because it's fun
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>>130101935
poser then you have no right to be pretentious, no talent faggot
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>>130101988
let me give something interesting for you who have no seen the light yet. rubbish music actively makes you more stupid:

Musique Intelligence et Personnalité - Comportement de L'homme en Fonction de L'évolution du Cerveau, de la Maturation et des Manipulations
Nghiem Minh Dung
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>>130102009
didnt read, you are so talentless you cannot break down why a peice is good. You are worse than Fantano. Fuck off to reddit with your pretentiousness. Retard that thinks he is smart.

here there is only retards that know they are retarded. you dont belong
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>>130101605
There's great music out there
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>>130101605
I like Hiromi.
I like '70s prog rock.
I like some bluegrass and folk.
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>>130101605
That's not Beethoven. This is.
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>>130103682
totally
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>>130103682
Beethoven being a dolphin would be more believable.
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>>130101605
to expand your taste beyong your comfort zone and relate more to others and be more humble about it? you're missing out on great music becuz of your narcissist elitist attitude, just sayin
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>>130104089
he is not even elitist being a classic fag and saying its the best music ever is a midwit IQ thing to say.
>umm thing was better before
>no i dont know music theory to explain how it just is ok!?
classical is good thats why these songs are classics, he is just being safe edgy. boring bait.
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>>130104169
It is the best music ever. Formally, harmonically, contrapuntally.
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>>130101605
Here's the deal, OP. I know you think you're better than everyone else since you started listening to classical not that long ago, but this really isn't productive. Classical music is by far the best music that humans have come up with and nothing will ever top it, but you're still a faggot. And I say this as someone who has "only" listened to classical so far this year.
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>>130104089
>to expand your taste beyong your comfort zone
do you also like to eat feces and dung to expand your taste?

> and relate more to others
why would i want to associate myself with braindead retards?
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>>130102107
>you are so talentless you cannot break down why a peice is good.
my soul knows it's good
everything in music theory is just an attempt to approach what is immediately intellective to any man of sound faculties

do i need to explain what makes language beautiful when linguists still struggle to describe all the grammar in it? so it is with music
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>>130104743
>I know you think you're better than everyone else since you started listening to classical not that long ago
you cretin
i will have you know i have been listening to the symphonies of Beethoven since I was in my mother's womb
during my childhood, you ignoble gnat, i slept to the sweet tunes of Chopin
at my adolescence, I dedicated Debussy to my fair maiden woth hazel eyes and hair
at university, while my peers tried to make me listen to rubbish such as nightwish, radiohead and other peasant humdrum, i enclosed myself in the embrace of opera
in my adulthood, I've been appreciating the history of the Western Canon through Otto Carpeaux's list
i advise you to cease your biological activity at this instant. i indicate this statement with my fullest sincerity.
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>>130104939
>my soul knows it's good
If you enjoy music purely for the sensation without being able to pick it apart structurally you are probably retarded
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0276237420951414
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>>130105166
>without being able to pick it apart structurally
that's akin to dissecting a joke
why would you want to be such a philistine?
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>>130101605
The most beautiful genre in existence, by far, and even mogging classical in every possible way, is Liquid DnB.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuvLac2pykY
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>>130105222
you call this music?
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>>130105257
Not only that, but the most beautiful music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4_b-wQtGso
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>>130105291
plebeian taste
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>>130101605
Classical is just post-african repetitions
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>>130101605
It’s too intellectual and has no balls
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>>130101605
Classical doesn’t bump
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>>130105166
The sensation is the only substance.
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>>130105166
Or just not a musician?
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This is clearly bait.
Homie clearly listens to Metal or some shit.
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>>130112623
youre right
i was just baiting expecting people to post music they like to counter me
im sorry
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>>130108740
>>130111832
Wrong.
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>>130101718
>fp
>thing japan
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>>130116617
yes. whine about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEpVT-ZJmGw
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>>130104528
>Acoustic only
>best music ever conceptually
If Bach, Chopin, etc were alive today they would experiment with Synth sounds.

Classical has a limit, its acoustic. Its the best in the use of acrostics though but electricity changed sound forever and for the better, there is infinite variety of tones now, and tone bending, etc.

The reason why music is not better now is because people are lazy thats all, because it takes at least a decade of music theory to be a great composer. But music can be potentially better there is more sound types than ever in humanity.
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>>130101605
Why would I ever eat anything but peanut butter?

Because you’re missing out if you don’t.

All tastes are acquired.
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>>130101915
Is that a fact or an opinion?
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>>130101935
Because being a musician allow a far greater perspective and appreciation of music than simply listening to it passively
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>>130116770
yeah exactly. also he is doing safe bait. he is picking a genre widely known as among the best ones saying "I only need this" while not being able to play it or understand it btw. A real classic fan picks up the piano, he is not there to smell his own farts about his taste in music and thats it.
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>>130116758
>classical
>acoustic only
EEEEE, wrong!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_music#Origins:_late_19th_century_to_early_20th_century
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_music#Development:_1940s_to_1950s
>If Bach, Chopin, etc were alive today they would experiment with Synth sounds.
You have no idea of knowing that. Nonsense comment that adds nothing.
>le electricity = le more sounds = better!!!
>electricity changed sound forever and for the better
You're retarded and have a severely limited understanding of music and have absolutely shit taste. There's much, much more to it than this. Please kill yourself so you can stop posting nonsense. Thanks.
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>>130116778
Trvth Nvke
OP will never genuinely know why Ebmaj7/9 is beautiful. He doesn't even know what Ebmaj7/9 even is he has to google it like a pleb.
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>>130116770
>>130116779
>"only" listening to classical music means listening to around 500-600 years of extremely different music with hundreds of genres, forms and dozens of styles, some of which are diametrically opposed
>this is somehow the same as eating nothing but peanut butter
Brilliant.
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>>130116780
You had to use an insult instead of an argument because i won de debate. Electricity changed sound for the better my argument stands invincible. Git gud faggit.
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>>130101605
I am a life long professional musician
I began with classical violin at 7.
I was teaching guitar in music stores at 15
I have performed thousands of times for live audiences and I have been a professional recording engineer for over 30 years.

I am qualified to state unequivocally that you are full of pretentious bull shit.

There is only good music and bad music and the difference between them is how honest and sincere the person creating them was in their effort.

Music is not a zero sum game. You’re only screwing yourself over by limiting your perspective.
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>>130116795
>instead of an argument
First of all, I debunked your retarded theory that classical music =/= electricity with actual historical proof. Cope.
Secondly, you don't really deserve a fleshed out argument, as your opinion is so uninformed and laughably stupid that it would be a waste of time trying to engage with you seriously. Now do as I said.
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>>130116781
Well you and I do.
Hey there musician
I see you.
Take care
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>>130116819
you lost the debate. and you cant even play music lol poser pleb. mad cuz bad.

https://voca.ro/1hVQDep46N3m

t. I play both classical and electronic
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>>130116795
>>130116819
Oh and "electricity changed sound for the better" isn't an argument in the first place. An argument would be trying to justify that thought. And no, "there are more sounds/tones/whatever than ever before" doesn't even remotely do that. You'd have to explain the jump from that to "therefore, music is better". It's a pretty big gap to try and logically bridge. More doesn't mean better. If anything, the opposite is usually true.
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>>130116794
And there’s lots of brand of peanut butter. There’s no doubt that there’s enough classical music to spend your whole life listening to it.
But that’s still denying yourself the joy of every other genre.
When I lived in New York, I was roommates with a man who got his doctorate in classical composition from Julliard.
Some of his favorite bands were Soundgarden and the Beastie Boys.
It’s just silly and restrictive to live in a vacuum
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>>130116843
Nice gay muzak and MIDI, faggot.
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>>130116857
>But that’s still denying yourself the joy of every other genre.
You're not denying yourself anything. Music by Perotin, Schumann and Xenakis is from three different planets. Classical isn't a single genre.
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>>130116845
more is better if you know what do with it. You suck and you dont play music so what would you know what do to with anything. You are here to be pretentious like a poser lol.
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>>130101915
Good, now go masturbate while you listen to the symphony
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>>130116864
Nope and nope. Try again, faggot.
>pretentious
100% of the time people use the word 'pretentious', it's because something made them feel intellectually insecure. Cope and seethe.
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>>130116862
Ok.
It’s your life and I’m out of it now.
Enjoy your music
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>>130116882
No. Its because you have no talent pretending to be knowledgeable about music but you cannot even play me all the scales on any instrument. I can't take you seriously.
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>>130101605
>why
so people don't rightfully see you as a dweeb? That's not to say anything about the music itself, but think about it from the outside looking in if you were "the guy who only listens to classical"
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>>130116893
>you have no talent
>you cannot even play me all the scales on any instrument
Those are just assumptions, you have no way of knowing that, whereas I *know* you're clueless about music because you've said some absolutely trite and dumb shit.
>pretending to be knowledgeable
I'm not pretending to be anything. It's evident I know more than you. You didn't even seem to know classical composers pioneered electronic music. And your more = better philosophy is peak midwittery. It's a free world though, so continue being a retarded faggot.
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Music isn’t a competition with winners and losers
You don’t have to pick a side.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EAWpBRPG-hg&list=RDEAWpBRPG-hg&start_radio=1&pp=ygUabWF0dGUga3VkYXNhaSBraW5nIGNyaW1zb26gBwE%3D&ra=m
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>>130116985
post a vocaroo showcasing your piano skills anon play us something (he will lie and post something that is not his own)
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>>130117002
I don't have a piano where I'm posting from. Didn't think of that, did ya? And you're trying to deflect from the point now.
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>>130116985
Honestly, it sounds like you’re trying to project an aura of intellect because you imagine classical music is what smart people like.
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>>130116770
the valid equivalent is meat, not peanut slop
a human can live on cow meat alone
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>>130116818
>I am qualified
You're not
While you were doing the dirty work for me and other music enjoyers, I was listening to the actual music

While you were practicing the same song over and over for hundreds of hours, I had already listened to 100 different sonatas
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>>130114701
Wrong.
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>>130117036
cap



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