Everything else is rubbish
>>130101605because there is beautiful piano expression in other genres as well such as Japanese Jazz
>>130101718>Jazza cat can make the same sounds if left on a piano
go ahead, i don't care, but i will not like it if you post a thread about this every few hours for the next few years
rubish opinion.
>>130101867no need to worryI will just sayno album no matter how praised by the city dwelling masses and subsoil inhabitant masses alikewill ever compare to just 1 minute of any symphony by any of the greats of the past centuries in Classical musicif you eant to waste your life on rubbish, you have made a very poor decision
>>130101842you are retarded and you dont even play, you likely dont even own a piano
>>130101922Why would I own a piano?I listen to music, not play it.do I need an orchestra in my garage too?Do you have a cow in your patio waiting for next years slaughter or do you leave it to the professionals?
>>130101605Because it's fun
>>130101935poser then you have no right to be pretentious, no talent faggot
>>130101988let me give something interesting for you who have no seen the light yet. rubbish music actively makes you more stupid:Musique Intelligence et Personnalité - Comportement de L'homme en Fonction de L'évolution du Cerveau, de la Maturation et des ManipulationsNghiem Minh Dung
>>130102009didnt read, you are so talentless you cannot break down why a peice is good. You are worse than Fantano. Fuck off to reddit with your pretentiousness. Retard that thinks he is smart.here there is only retards that know they are retarded. you dont belong
>>130101605There's great music out there
>>130101605I like Hiromi. I like '70s prog rock.I like some bluegrass and folk.
>>130101605That's not Beethoven. This is.
>>130103682totally
>>130103682Beethoven being a dolphin would be more believable.
>>130101605to expand your taste beyong your comfort zone and relate more to others and be more humble about it? you're missing out on great music becuz of your narcissist elitist attitude, just sayin
>>130104089he is not even elitist being a classic fag and saying its the best music ever is a midwit IQ thing to say. >umm thing was better before>no i dont know music theory to explain how it just is ok!?classical is good thats why these songs are classics, he is just being safe edgy. boring bait.
>>130104169It is the best music ever. Formally, harmonically, contrapuntally.
>>130101605Here's the deal, OP. I know you think you're better than everyone else since you started listening to classical not that long ago, but this really isn't productive. Classical music is by far the best music that humans have come up with and nothing will ever top it, but you're still a faggot. And I say this as someone who has "only" listened to classical so far this year.
>>130104089>to expand your taste beyong your comfort zonedo you also like to eat feces and dung to expand your taste?> and relate more to otherswhy would i want to associate myself with braindead retards?
>>130102107>you are so talentless you cannot break down why a peice is good.my soul knows it's goodeverything in music theory is just an attempt to approach what is immediately intellective to any man of sound faculties do i need to explain what makes language beautiful when linguists still struggle to describe all the grammar in it? so it is with music
>>130104743>I know you think you're better than everyone else since you started listening to classical not that long agoyou cretini will have you know i have been listening to the symphonies of Beethoven since I was in my mother's wombduring my childhood, you ignoble gnat, i slept to the sweet tunes of Chopinat my adolescence, I dedicated Debussy to my fair maiden woth hazel eyes and hairat university, while my peers tried to make me listen to rubbish such as nightwish, radiohead and other peasant humdrum, i enclosed myself in the embrace of operain my adulthood, I've been appreciating the history of the Western Canon through Otto Carpeaux's listi advise you to cease your biological activity at this instant. i indicate this statement with my fullest sincerity.
>>130104939>my soul knows it's goodIf you enjoy music purely for the sensation without being able to pick it apart structurally you are probably retardedhttps://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0276237420951414
>>130105166>without being able to pick it apart structurallythat's akin to dissecting a jokewhy would you want to be such a philistine?
>>130101605The most beautiful genre in existence, by far, and even mogging classical in every possible way, is Liquid DnB. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuvLac2pykY
>>130105222you call this music?
>>130105257Not only that, but the most beautiful music.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4_b-wQtGso
>>130105291plebeian taste
>>130101605Classical is just post-african repetitions
>>130101605It’s too intellectual and has no balls
>>130101605Classical doesn’t bump
>>130105166The sensation is the only substance.
>>130105166Or just not a musician?
This is clearly bait. Homie clearly listens to Metal or some shit.
>>130112623youre right i was just baiting expecting people to post music they like to counter meim sorry
>>130108740>>130111832Wrong.
>>130101718>fp>thing japan
>>130116617yes. whine about it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEpVT-ZJmGw
>>130104528>Acoustic only>best music ever conceptuallyIf Bach, Chopin, etc were alive today they would experiment with Synth sounds.Classical has a limit, its acoustic. Its the best in the use of acrostics though but electricity changed sound forever and for the better, there is infinite variety of tones now, and tone bending, etc. The reason why music is not better now is because people are lazy thats all, because it takes at least a decade of music theory to be a great composer. But music can be potentially better there is more sound types than ever in humanity.
>>130101605Why would I ever eat anything but peanut butter? Because you’re missing out if you don’t. All tastes are acquired.
>>130101915Is that a fact or an opinion?
>>130101935Because being a musician allow a far greater perspective and appreciation of music than simply listening to it passively
>>130116770yeah exactly. also he is doing safe bait. he is picking a genre widely known as among the best ones saying "I only need this" while not being able to play it or understand it btw. A real classic fan picks up the piano, he is not there to smell his own farts about his taste in music and thats it.
>>130116758>classical>acoustic onlyEEEEE, wrong!https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_music#Origins:_late_19th_century_to_early_20th_centuryhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_music#Development:_1940s_to_1950s>If Bach, Chopin, etc were alive today they would experiment with Synth sounds.You have no idea of knowing that. Nonsense comment that adds nothing.>le electricity = le more sounds = better!!!>electricity changed sound forever and for the betterYou're retarded and have a severely limited understanding of music and have absolutely shit taste. There's much, much more to it than this. Please kill yourself so you can stop posting nonsense. Thanks.
>>130116778Trvth NvkeOP will never genuinely know why Ebmaj7/9 is beautiful. He doesn't even know what Ebmaj7/9 even is he has to google it like a pleb.
>>130116770>>130116779>"only" listening to classical music means listening to around 500-600 years of extremely different music with hundreds of genres, forms and dozens of styles, some of which are diametrically opposed>this is somehow the same as eating nothing but peanut butterBrilliant.
>>130116780You had to use an insult instead of an argument because i won de debate. Electricity changed sound for the better my argument stands invincible. Git gud faggit.
>>130101605I am a life long professional musician I began with classical violin at 7.I was teaching guitar in music stores at 15I have performed thousands of times for live audiences and I have been a professional recording engineer for over 30 years. I am qualified to state unequivocally that you are full of pretentious bull shit. There is only good music and bad music and the difference between them is how honest and sincere the person creating them was in their effort. Music is not a zero sum game. You’re only screwing yourself over by limiting your perspective.
>>130116795>instead of an argumentFirst of all, I debunked your retarded theory that classical music =/= electricity with actual historical proof. Cope.Secondly, you don't really deserve a fleshed out argument, as your opinion is so uninformed and laughably stupid that it would be a waste of time trying to engage with you seriously. Now do as I said.
>>130116781Well you and I do. Hey there musician I see you. Take care
>>130116819you lost the debate. and you cant even play music lol poser pleb. mad cuz bad. https://voca.ro/1hVQDep46N3mt. I play both classical and electronic
>>130116795>>130116819Oh and "electricity changed sound for the better" isn't an argument in the first place. An argument would be trying to justify that thought. And no, "there are more sounds/tones/whatever than ever before" doesn't even remotely do that. You'd have to explain the jump from that to "therefore, music is better". It's a pretty big gap to try and logically bridge. More doesn't mean better. If anything, the opposite is usually true.
>>130116794And there’s lots of brand of peanut butter. There’s no doubt that there’s enough classical music to spend your whole life listening to it. But that’s still denying yourself the joy of every other genre. When I lived in New York, I was roommates with a man who got his doctorate in classical composition from Julliard. Some of his favorite bands were Soundgarden and the Beastie Boys. It’s just silly and restrictive to live in a vacuum
>>130116843Nice gay muzak and MIDI, faggot.
>>130116857>But that’s still denying yourself the joy of every other genre.You're not denying yourself anything. Music by Perotin, Schumann and Xenakis is from three different planets. Classical isn't a single genre.
>>130116845more is better if you know what do with it. You suck and you dont play music so what would you know what do to with anything. You are here to be pretentious like a poser lol.
>>130101915Good, now go masturbate while you listen to the symphony
>>130116864Nope and nope. Try again, faggot.>pretentious100% of the time people use the word 'pretentious', it's because something made them feel intellectually insecure. Cope and seethe.
>>130116862Ok. It’s your life and I’m out of it now. Enjoy your music
>>130116882No. Its because you have no talent pretending to be knowledgeable about music but you cannot even play me all the scales on any instrument. I can't take you seriously.
>>130101605>whyso people don't rightfully see you as a dweeb? That's not to say anything about the music itself, but think about it from the outside looking in if you were "the guy who only listens to classical"
>>130116893>you have no talent>you cannot even play me all the scales on any instrumentThose are just assumptions, you have no way of knowing that, whereas I *know* you're clueless about music because you've said some absolutely trite and dumb shit.>pretending to be knowledgeableI'm not pretending to be anything. It's evident I know more than you. You didn't even seem to know classical composers pioneered electronic music. And your more = better philosophy is peak midwittery. It's a free world though, so continue being a retarded faggot.
Music isn’t a competition with winners and losers You don’t have to pick a side. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EAWpBRPG-hg&list=RDEAWpBRPG-hg&start_radio=1&pp=ygUabWF0dGUga3VkYXNhaSBraW5nIGNyaW1zb26gBwE%3D&ra=m
>>130116985post a vocaroo showcasing your piano skills anon play us something (he will lie and post something that is not his own)
>>130117002I don't have a piano where I'm posting from. Didn't think of that, did ya? And you're trying to deflect from the point now.
>>130116985Honestly, it sounds like you’re trying to project an aura of intellect because you imagine classical music is what smart people like.
>>130116770the valid equivalent is meat, not peanut slopa human can live on cow meat alone
>>130116818>I am qualifiedYou're notWhile you were doing the dirty work for me and other music enjoyers, I was listening to the actual music While you were practicing the same song over and over for hundreds of hours, I had already listened to 100 different sonatas
>>130114701Wrong.
>>130117036cap