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If you still think of music as consisting of "chords" and a "melody" you have been thoroughly brainwashed by popular music theory. "Chords" are a useful way of describing a certain approach to polyphony popularized in the 17th century, by which point polyphony had already existed for centuries; the real tragedy is that, since then, it has become the default template for almost all music. Even amateur musicians who think they're "breaking the rules of theory" don't even consciously realize that this convention exists and is something that can be deviated from, it's been drilled into their heads for so long that it's a fact of life to them, just like gravity.

While I believe this convention came into existence naturally, I also believe it has been pushed by academia and polular culture because it is not only deeply poisonous to creativity, but promotes a destructive, short-term mode of thinking. The music is divided into neat, uniform chunks of harmony that each have a distinct identity, forcing you to focus on the short term. This is unlike polyphony between voices, where your focus is on the journey of a few distinct voices over a longer period of time.

>But chord progressions are just an evolution of this style of polyphony!
Maybe they used to be. But during the 20th century an even more poisonous development was made, as the guitar became more prevalent in popular music and being taught the instrument classically became a luxury, harmony eventually became "slidable shapes" that no longer had to have any voice leading between them, or really any coherence whatsoever besides their "chord functions" and "resolutions" (which are completely made up, unintuitive concepts that only exist to justify chord ideology) which only serves to exacerbate the directionless short-term gratification of "chord progressions".
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Ok
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I just know academiafags are NOT gonna like this
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>>130129320
If chords aren't real then what's this?

https://voca.ro/13HAM2pIk6nr
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>>130129789
How very clever and insightful anon. I definitely wasn't expecting that when I clicked on the link. You are so creative for taking the opportunity to make the most obvious joke because you have nothing better to say. Just letting you know you're directly contributing to this academic cancer, though it's never too late to stop.
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>>130129320
So basically you're telling me that stuff like The Mysteries of Bulgarian Voices or Geinoh Yamashirogumi or the indigenous chanting music they're studying over at the musicology department is actually healthy?
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>>130129977
It sounded like a chord to me, OP. I thought you said they weren't real?
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https://youtu.be/TURkB9zqxa0
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>>130130159
Utterly embarrassing, this is what chord ideology does to a man. He spends about 4 minutes masturbating in a single vertical slice of harmony, and not once does he think to take it in a new or different direction.
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how about you recommend us some /mu/sic to get a better grasp of this instead anon
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>>130130365
Webern
Hindemith
Reger
Stravinsky (early)
Xenakis
Grisey
Ligeti (late)
Penderecki
Philip Glass (early)

Bonus: John Coltrane (late)
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>>130129320
yes but actualizing words most conducive to the medium of harmony is well given, in the sophisticated culture of the west, to imparting a wide range of modes derived from chords in lieu of transversing a single scale or otherwise fumbling about an exacerbated line of complexities
furthermore, it is exactly the flippancy of authorship, and fleeting nature of modernity which lends music to insist upon itself to be tolerably memorable by means of exploitations of the popular pleasing composition portraits
you might seek to deign an ultimate good done to music through an infallible construction of perfect aural concertation, but it is foremost ideas which form the degrees by which we tolerate any words to reach our ears at all, let alone our eyes... which should be noted, are not a given right upon another man
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>>130130527
This is lameass tryhard ''music'' that only appeals to yuppies and their european equivalent and is basically a front for money laundering much like all of modern art. There's little to no beauty there, except for Webern and Coltrane.
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>>130130642
I know this entire thread is bait but if you can't see the beauty in Philip Glass you have no soul
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>>130130527
is there any Webern/serialist music that has a vibe besides "vaguely unsettling"?
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>>130130365
Bach, obviously
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>>130130753
You should post that in classical they'd love that
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>>130130753
You shouldn't post that in classical they'd hate that
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>>130131450
It's like reading a book in a foreign language, obviously every page is just going to look the same if you don't speak it. Nonetheless Berg is the obvious answer
https://youtu.be/ooM3YF2aQBg
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>>130129320
so when you’re going over a song with someone in band practice what do you call chords? how do you approach the situation when they inevitably look at you like you’re retarded?
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>>130131946
what emotions does this piece evoke for you?
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>>130129320
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>>130129320
retard frog poster
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>>130132424
kek this guy can't play in a band
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The best songs have been made with the most simplistic chord progressions, thoughbeit.
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>>130129320
Polyphony is multiple voices playing at the same time. A chord is multiple voices playing at the same time. What is the problem? Better chord voicings are still used to make chords sound better and better chord transitions are still made by ensuring better voice leading.
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>>130129320
>how to shitpost
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>>130129320
No word of a lie
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>>130129320
You can do voice leading on guitar bro, it's not even that hard
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>>130129320
I feel that chords at least ought to get bracketed, which is not to say that dyads or something like that is a superior mode of musical construction, just that chords as a musical practice get bracketed partly by the context of that practice not being dyadic or something such as that
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>>130129320
real ones know that chords, notes, rhythms, melodies, harmonies, etc are all the same thing
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>>130129320
Miswired. Like people who taste soap instead of bright delicious cilantro, or who find lip smacking and sibilant hisses appealing instead of annoying and gross
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>>130136607
Kek
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>>130129320
when you think about it, language is just a cultural construct and people are being stunted by their irrational adherence to its conventions.
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Rhythm
Melody
Harmony

In that order.
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stopped reading dumb fucking frog poster nothing you say or think is worthwhile kys
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>>130137926
>language is just a cultural construct
Absolute dumbass
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>>130138449
It's literally the best post i've ever seen on /mu/.

>>130129320
Absolutely based OP, unfortunately nobody will hear you.



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