What killed indie?
>>130150560it's the money
>>130150560that one drunk boomer in the pickup truck barreling towards them at 90mph
Indie was never a real genre, it was just mellow rock music
>>130150560When Arcade Fire released this pos (I do like 3 songs tho) after winning AOTY at the Grammy's. Instead of putting out an album that was more music biz friendly they put out this artsy shit and it killed any momentum indie had. Final nail was P4k getting bought out
>>130150639?
>>130150560The cursed stomp clap, i tried to loop that loop myself myself before, the first stomp clap from the lumineers song, but that song was cursed
isn’t geese like a huge “indie” band right now. wet leg, bcnr, fontaines, stuff like that idk
>>1301511972015 was a plague on humanity, Even 2020 was at least musically and culturally very very much better than 2015 regardless of how bad it was
>>130151305They seem to lean more on the post-punk side of things than like the Shins or Arcade Fire. I think OP meant bands that had a sound more like Her's
>>130150721>On 27 March 2019, around 1 a.m., Fitzpatrick and Laading (aged 24 and 25 respectively), along with their tour manager, were killed in a head-on traffic collision and subsequent vehicle fire. They were travelling from Phoenix, Arizona, The driver of a Nissan pick-up truck, Francisco Rebollar, aged 64, from Murrieta, California, was also killed in the collision; a subsequent police investigation of the scene located a bottle of alcohol in the wreckage.>At the time of the crash, the Arizona Department of Public Safety was already responding to reports of the Nissan pick-up truck travelling at speed in the wrong direction going eastbound in the westbound highway lanes.
Pitchfork shifting focus to rap and pop, younger audiences wanting music with testosterone
>>130151542>Pitchfork shifting focus to rapRap hasn't been popular in years
the death of the underground
>>130151519If you read crime news and/or watch police body cam videos, you'll quickly see there's a silent epidemic of drunk driving illegals and other newcomers killing innocent Americans. Not to mention the sober but incompetent ESL truck drivers. It's horrific and infuriating and only a handful of politicians are even talking about it.
>>130150560itself
>>130152795>In 2016, 82% of people arrested for a DUI were White, 23% were Latino, 14% were Black, and 2% were American IndianIts funny how quickly your narrative falls apart with a quick search
>>130151557did you read the op tardo
>>130150560Oversaturation. Same story with any other scene and genre.
>>130150560How come nobody bullied Hers or Women to change their names but they did for Gilla/Girl Band?
>>130153408Nobody bullied Girl Band. They just had a weird little panic attack that their name might be problematic and changed it. Much like British Sea Power.
>>130150678Any indie heads I knew in the mid 00s already gave up on arcade fire when neon bible came out, but they surely had to be a part of it's death in one way or another. Pitchy buyout def a factor too prob>>130150560I can only really speak to my own experience and social circles, but imo a big part of it was the whole bedroom DIY beat producer era of ~2010. A lot of indie heads I knew back then pivoted hard towards that world. We'd all already been fascinated by aphex twin and dntel and other electronic shit that deviated from the norm, but that era really opened up the gates for a lot of us to get midi controllers and an ableton crack. Right around this time too was when younger millennials started making stuff inspired by the classics and you ended up with shit like diiv or alvvways, even the whole vivian girls / kurt vile NYC scene that started a few years earlier felt a bit too detached from the point and a lot of older heads just stopped giving a fuckHonestly looking back on it a lot of that 00s shit wasn't as good as I thought it was. Indie was probably already dead for 90s heads by that point
>>130150560Sale of 4AD in 1999.
>>130150560Every movement/genre/whatever goes from undeground phase to parodic mainstreamised version of its former self
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>>130150560The corporatization of the internet, music and media in general. Forcing you to buy subscriptions for streaming made bands have to become corporate stooges, which is antithetical to indie any form of art.
>>130152795shut up chud
>>130152905>In 2016
>>130150560dependence
>>130150560The rise of anti-white sentiment, the far left takeover, the fear of being sincere in younger generations, and metoo>>130155195Anyone can release their stuff on bandcamp and still have a sizable audience lil bro. No one is forced to use streaming. Bands today aren't even remotely as reliant on corporations as they were pre-2007ish. No idea what the fuck you're on about
>>130155967You're delusional if you think Indie was the last bastion of implicit White identity. Sure, the scene was majority White but strained to be as inclusive as possible. They were all progressive liberals, and most voted for Obama.
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the undeniable whiteness of it
>>130150560condenast decided it would be more ideologically lucrative to push kdot and beyonce instead
No one has mentioned the obvious which is that there’s just not much to do with the sound. I actually find it very limited despite the seeming diversity of sub genres. I’d list off examples of things I think add to this restrictiveness but I’m sure you all can take a few guesses yourselves at them. That combined with the over saturation. I loved indie most of my life but the past few months to a year I’m just goddamn sick of it at this point
>>130150560Mark E Smith and The Fall not releasing new music, they were releasing relevant music until the end
>>130157097Technically the article youre referring to is the unbearable* whiteness of indie
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>>130157097>the undeniable whiteness of itThis narrative was pushed everywhere by the outraged mainstream media as a response to Trump (who is a fag and clearly wasn't worth any advocacy to begin with).Indie ended from lib outrage + white guilt from Trump's first 2016 win. Then it was all rap, all the time.
>>130159543>condenast decided it would be more ideologically lucrative to push kdot and beyonce insteadat that point rap was just as compromised by the gay mafia as pop. indie was ironically more varied and not as compromised to that agenda because a lot of indie people came from decent homes and lives they could fall back on if they didn't like something. a lot of these rap guys would be going right back to poverty and crime, so they'd agree to the gay shit just to get away from all that.
Jews, tr00n and women
