https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aBJDPMBqqoWEEKEND GRIND!>https://chordify.net/en/chords/taashi-masuzaki-shadows-blokarts260Resources:>http://www.pianopractice.org/book.pdfPiano Practice Basics>https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUyDmNalB0rjP2anw_332rs8-oJMapOMU>LessonsOnTheWeb YT ChannelBasic Piano Chords:>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y01jIorpeA Triads>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tbK2jtVRM8 Seventh chords 1>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLhbK9g8yyE Seventh chords 2>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLDRWDI-m3w Extended Chords >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OmqeihOXD4 Altered chords>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQsxM5LPrwc Sus chordsFor composers:>https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL341D841389B2FEC7Music theory:>https://www.basicmusictheory.com/One of the best sites for everything on chords, keys, scales, etc>https://www.youtube.com/user/RhaptapsodyMichael New's YT ChannelNotes:http://www.sightreadingpractice.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?sight&dpt=s&layout=full&r=w.s/&id=31026325146&cr=188-key weighted-keys pianos under 1,000http://www.kraftmusic.com/digital-pianos-and-keyboards/home-pianos/?bundle_product=No&key_num=88&limit=50&price=1%2C1000For workstastions:Generally, Korg, Roland, Yamaha, or KurzweilBudget pianos: Used Privias, M-Audio 88 Hammerkey, Foldable 88 key Glarry if super poorProd on keyboards:http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com/wiki/Vintage_KeyboardsChord Libraries:https://www.scales-chords.com/chord/piano/Ebmaj7/9https://www.pianochord.org/sound-library.htmlSynth Emulators (FREE):https://cdm.link/a-free-emulator-of-roland-jp8080-and-the-love-of-supersaws-and-trance/dsp56300.com/builds/downloads.html?version=2.1.0&product=JE8086&format=All&os=AllWeb Browser Keys (free):https://midi.city/Post resources, sheet music, synthesia, midi, vocaroos, etc.prev: >>130064740https://desuarchive.org/mu/search/subject/%20%2Fkeys%2F%20-%20Piano%2C%20Synth%20%26%20Keyboard%20General/
Yelyah! :P
link didnt work for some reason:https://chordify.net/chords/takashi-masuzaki-shadows-blokarts260
yello i'm here
>>130166967hi me too, im back from the gym, kinda sore, no desire to practice yet but tomorrow I will.
Does anyone actually own a foldable Glarry? I'm thinking about getting one to carry to work or just around so I can play on the go. Is the sound quality good enough or should I just get a Yamaha P45 and lug that around? Especially since that can have a sustaining peddle
>>130169087the sound quality is mid af, only the 1st piano distortion is alright. You get what you pay for the good thing about the Glarry 88 keys is that its also a midi controller which means you can download:https://cdm.link/a-free-emulator-of-roland-jp8080-and-the-love-of-supersaws-and-trance/dsp56300.com/builds/downloads.html?version=2.1.0&product=JE8086&format=All&os=AllAnd watch a tutorial on YouTube about how to set it up and sound good. Through the computer. And done thats it. Idk if Glarry has the cheapest 88 key midi controller in the market rn but whoever has it thats the best newbie internet learning piano on the market.Maybe I go on an internet surfing quest to find it one day. Cheapest MIDI controller piano with 88 keys. Laptop + that is all you need as a noob.
>>130168618>but tomorrow I will.No. EVERY day. No exception.
>>130169838Im tired bossUuughhh but ok ok im going to do the FF prelude at least, the warm up.
>>130169862>okGood.Stop making me jelly of your large hands :(I have been practicing that left hand F minor 7 with the 10th (F, Eb, Ab) and can play it every time, so at least I have that.
>>130169351I already have a Yamaha P255 but I just use that at home. I mainly want a decent one that I can play with while traveling and I'm not sure if I'll have a computer for that set up always
>>130170337>large hands they are moderate sized and battered up due to the gym. I went ham today because I didnt go for 2 months I was starting to feel flabby.>>130170384as long as you got 88 keys you can make anything sound good with a synth emulator really. You can cheap out on keyboards now due to that, except if you are going to perform in concert. Which is good it means melody is accessible nowadays, all that is left is gettin gud. Synthesia to practice can be pirated if you want or you can use musecore like the other anon said, its free. Piano never been this easy to get into. There is so many resources on YouTube too. Everyone that intends to take music seriously must know piano. Unless you are in a band and you aint composing at all. (usually the bassist)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3uYKtkxp-Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14lZ2g_oCxI
How did Jesus get his hair back?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itL-bnVy2aUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m-5CG7rEwQ
>>130171157hair transplant bro once it falls that's all you can do and then you need to maintain it with finasteride the sooner you realize you are norwooding the better you can prevent it right then and there. Growing it back is very hard or rare it almost never happens even with medication.
This part timestamped is useful, and very easy to play:https://youtu.be/WzrvCMM98U0?si=R9tAFKMG0PPy5srX&t=671:07 You can use it as a glittery magical filling interlude in the middle of a song to transition to something else melodically. I dont think it's copyrighted, and if it is surely you can come with an alteration anyway or playing it in reverse. It has a snowy feel to it but its comfy.
Maybe im getting ahead of myself because im not there on my lessons but how do I learn proper fingerings for scales and arpeggios?
>>130171719Thats too vaguebut>Right hand C major:C D E F G A B C1 2 3 1 2 3 4 5>Left hand C major:C D E F G A B C5 4 3 2 1 3 2 1C major arpeggio>Right hand:C E G C E G C1 2 3 1 2 3 5>Left hand:C E G C E G C5 3 2 1 3 2 1
>>130171969https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceUlgzMRi-w
>tfw don't even play piano anymore, I just learn songs by reading sheet music
>>130172411Glenn Gould did that
>>130172411kek i guess you can still compose in a DAW but it would be slower.
I disagree with this dudehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvaEMD3l3h0He is only right that there is genres but you should not limit yourself within that framework only unless the fans really demand you to for whatever reason which more often that not never happens, they want to hear your true self expression, so in other words you must play what sounds good to (You). i have already explained this in previous threads but for example possibly my favorite chord is Ebmaj7/9 I plan to make it part of my identity, to me that chord sounds like healing light, like a flicker of light that brings hope or something, its very calming, healing, etc.And thats it thats how you make an identity you familiarize yourself with sound, and sound theory to understand the full range of sound and hold onto what you liked the most and use it in your work. You must not play typical Jazz progressions in your Jazz or typical Rock's blues scale if you are playing Rock, limiting yourself that much will make you boring and your sound wont be able to stand out much.
Where do I put my fingers
>>130174327https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fVE8kSM43I
>>130173845Just call it Ebmaj9 ffs
>>130175742E sharp Major 9thshttps://youtu.be/28tLQOMaPI8?si=nf7Di6JFqMtK9XvY&t=19Anyway it's a great starter and finisher in a progression loop imhoI love the way it rings
just realized i didnt post the sharp one kekhttps://youtu.be/4_g8X5JjSC4?si=RjIGRZ1li0t9dfux&t=16
>>130166167Staccato, the "stabbing" playing technique is cool to create background rhythms or just soft background noise that doesn't linger too long sprinkled around, you can always put a faint chord cycle you like in background of a main melody to add more richness of sound. Also the Japanese use this a lot so it must be good.https://youtu.be/RLzI_CqOVNI?si=eNl8c6OVKY2IIt4q&t=101https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1XBPLDECC0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCWLuZR9d3Q
>>130166201https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdnzgA0VLfEhttps://youtu.be/2dZX87jWhmU?si=3VhF0jC1pJRLnTpe&t=131
>>130178576Its a bit addictivehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuyrCMfVVw0
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>>130176926>>130176953>sharp>posts flatI'm going to slap you so hard that you'll be sent back through time and find yourself in the age of dinosaurs.
>>130181898ur mom's flatI corrected the mistake stop being so dickish
>>130182063You did NOT correct the mistake.>>130176953>just realized i didnt post the sharp one kek>*posts FLAT one*
>>130182074holy shite you're rite im high and trippinhttps://www.musicca.com/dictionary/chords/e-sharp-major-ninthdidnt find it in YouTube quickly enough
>>130171157if he could thin himself through weight loss surgery, hair transplant is a cakewalk
>>130183619>surgeryYou mean he didn't just change up his diet and exercise?
>>130183701https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgBrPrg9YtI it's explained here
>>130183723Why can't my doctor look like that?
If its an asian dude he knows what he is talking about:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW8p7qzpvC8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3fj8fX9k04dude forgothttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xe3It9DFDQthe intro has a lot of sus2
>>130184938Are you guys actually impressed by suspended chords? I guess this is a general for learning but don't people already know basic chords?
>>130185075A lot of people are newbs and i just want them to start because music is so boring now because it lacks melody.
crunchy jazz chords*crunch*C7b9#11, achieved by playing C - G on left hand and F# major triad on right hand
>>130185608>C7b9#11, achieved by playing C - G on left hand and F# major triad on right handBut that's wrong (?)Sure, C# is the flat-9 and F# is the sharp-11, but F# major includes an A which is not part of the C7b9#11. Your description is also missing the 7 (B).I like playing C, E, F#, B with the left hand and overlap that with the right hand playing G, C#, F#, A.... then trilling them back and forth forever.Yes, I know I included the A -- C7b9#11.13.
>>130185677F# major is F#-Bb-C#Bb becomes dominant seventhF# is #11C# is b9
>>130185686>F# major is F#-Bb-C#Try again.
>>130185689i swear to god i've studied music theory for 15 years not to be baited and gaslighted like this but here you are
>>130185703Thank you. My bad.
>>130185703I told u a lot of ppl are newbs here. We need enlightment so music can be good again.
>tfw no big monkey-man handsfeelsbadman
Do I really have to play all the songs they give in the starter book? I just want to get to learning to play the songs I care about, not some 100 year old american folk songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVTUWdKdH3E>casually plays a C/F# chord out of nowherestevie is insane
its everyday brohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xeAodjC7aA>>130185821dont worry about it boss, we all gonna make it
>>130185821that kid covers like 11 or 10 keys nice, im sure some dudes can cover more.
>>130185889You must learn sounds you dont like so you forget about them the next day due to detachment!Just kidding the only "boring" stuff you should practice is warm ups to play something else later.
time stamped where he explains:https://youtu.be/JlfnyUloywo?si=_Qp1hvo1VSr1cgAT&t=432dude doesnt realize the piano is the composer himself until the end, the song is hard:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFjbjzzX29ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNXwBRciFqchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdKlbqFwbbwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_S0Q9CsIlIthose crunchy chods at 0:59 are gud
I did piano lessons with a teacher for a year and stopped because, while I enjoyed playing, I didn't really enjoy the "normal" sound of a piano constantly. I don't really listen to piano music much in general, but playing is nice and trying to improvise something with some chords or scales is nice, even if I suck. Will buying a synthesizer be a good idea? I like electronic music and it's probably cool for making some nice sounds.Thanks for reading my blog btw
>>130190025yeah you are one of those that needs a synth (emulator because its FREE)I enjoy both raw piano and synth wiuu wiuuu noises. Both are beautiful, melody is inherently beautiful.>Will buying a synthesizer be a good idea? No. Buying Synths is for enthusiasts and they are expensive. Just get a keyboard that can work as a midi controlled hopuefull an 88 key one and use synth emulators that you can run in your laptop.Buy a Synth Keyboard when you git gud, and make sure the sounds that Synth can make aint yet in an Emulator somewhere.
Anyone here uses midi keyboards with android phones? I'll be going out of town in a few months and I'll be taking my guitar and amp along but I also want to take a midi keyboard to noodle on while plugging it into my phone. Only thing is, I've heard that android has a lot of latency in that scenario and that's something that'd completely kill it for me. Anyone doing that sort of thing? Some tips/insight would be appreciated.
>>130190175No never done thatit should be possible but i dont like the ideau dont have a laptop and a backpack?
>>130190635I have an old laptop which only works when plugged in. I've read it's a simple think of connecting the phone to the keyboard with usb c and that's it. It would be perfect for noodling outside, I just don't want any latency.
>>130190968damn you are poor, you need a jewb, go get a jewb.
>>130190992Hah true. But still wanna know about the thing I asked. Even if I had a laptop, using my phone would be so much more convenient.
>>130191193it appears its possible, idk if u cna use synthesia on it though:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ6ZqPFkkKYit would be wild if you could
>>130192721this guy in this vid explains hyper badtl;dr you need an adapterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxlwoBFce_0
>should practice old songs so I don't end up forgetting them but also tired of playing the same old songs>learning new songs just adds to the amount of stuff I have to memorize
67th post lolSIX SEEEVEN SIX SEEEVEN
>>130189269I like this song from FFX, sounds best on a synth with lower attackhttps://musescore.com/user/31451219/scores/6525539
>>130193758Yours is the 68th, epic fail!
>>130193851>sounds best on a synth with lower attackyeah i was gonna say the same thing, just some mystical sounding chord rotation>>130193209I look at music in parts I only learn sections I REALLY like that I could use. Never learn a whole song there is no point unless you plan to play it ofc either on the street or as a cover band. Or if you are an enthusiast fanboy of said musician.Otherwise be more picky about what sections you want to drill into your muscle memory. Besides warm ups ofc.
>>130193851All this vid was a good analysis on his soundtrack work:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5Z1-oaJmRA&t=1873sIts long so skip over if you wish. His own music is also very good, he and his daughters also compose either for his band Imeruat or themselves and their students, they have like a Japanese Music Neo-Classical school going on.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDHGd4xE_D4
>>13019592336:48lul they call the staccato the ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta I mean thats how it sounds like, anyway time to practice mine it's really good to build rhythmic layers in the background.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=843eF86kEhw
>>130196125https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHgE8RBUOWw
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>>130190025Synths aren't really made for big chords, most of the time you don't have enough voices for as many fingers you are using to play. Other than that they are great
>>130197037Yeah, I'm still not 100% sure what I want, don't wanna blow a bunch of money on something I won't like.
>>130197202i think synth is preferable if you're into soundscaping but i don't think it's optimal if you want to be an actual keyboardist. anyway you can get some simple keys, 61 or 88 keys can do, and if you really want to play synth just connect it to your pc.
https://youtu.be/hIKqhLzwQB8?si=DIX9JDjLcajUuFZOyou want to make a progress on how to make a chord progression that isn't boring but still pleasing to hear, learn Kirinjihttps://ja.chordwiki.org/wiki/%E8%80%B3%E3%82%92%E3%81%86%E3%81%9A%E3%82%81%E3%81%A6here's them screwing around in G major key
https://voca.ro/15nf7pRJUzMM
Is 21 too late to start
>>130198451I started at 32 :)
>>130198451Ryou Fukui started in his mid 20's if I remember correctly. It's quite literally never too late, especially if your goal is just to have fun.
What's /keys/' practice routine? How long does it take for you to just do the daily practice vs learning pieces or anything freeform?
>>130198451Started at 30. First started around your age and if I kept up with it I'd have over a decade of experience. Just start>>130199400I usually just find sheet music and attempt to play until I'm confident with it. Usually do this for a couple of hours.
>>130199400I warm up daily its the least I do. Similar to the video on the OP. I do the "arcs".
this one is a big dealthe synthesizer version was too expensive for me and I didn't even want the standalone synthbut this is actually my dream controllerhttps://www.thomann.de/de/expressive_e_osmose_49_ce.htm
>>130199720i dont know what you plan to play but thats too few keys for my liking. Maybe you dont need to get past entry level. Just dont end up making "beats" thats a worse fate than death for a musician or an aspiring one.
>>130200001there's a 61 keys version as wellI make soundtracks for video games and compose music for my band. I need a controller for my DAW that allows me to play strings, flutes, brass, synthesizers... with expression. Editing MIDI afterwards does not work, it's too unemotional.I have tried tons of controllers, including the akai ewi, and I can achieve a bit of expression with mod wheel and pitch shift, but nothing compares to the possibilities of the osmose keyboard. It was just too expensive and also too large for my purpose.
Noob question, but how do you actually learn songs? I find it that it takes me very long to remember and get comfortable with playing anything, even simple pieces.Do you do a few bars with one hand, then the other, then together, or maybe just both from the get go but in smaller sections? Or in general, do you repeat a single bar until you get comfortable with it and then move to the next one, or do you try to learn larger sections all at once?
>>130200102>Do you do a few bars with one hand, then the other, then together, or maybe just both from the get go but in smaller sections? Or in general, do you repeat a single bar until you get comfortable with it and then move to the next one, or do you try to learn larger sections all at once?all of that
>>130200041learn in 88 keysjust do the meme i recommend glarry foldable 88 and plug it to the computer and download the Rolan JE-8086 Emulator for free so you can sound goodthat way you get full range and good sound for like 90 dollars. The keys dont feel the best but it's serviceable. I dont recommedn you to get small keyboards unless you travel a lot, you already use the computer a lot so have a full range big one.
>>130200102Repetition (muscle memory) and Letter Notation. Thats how I imagine songs I have learned.I dont imagine them as Sheet Music because I'm a noob at reading sheets. But Pros imagine scores like that then they play.In my imagination I'm thinking for example:E > G > E > E > A > E > Dthats the intro first part of Crazy Frog:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k85mRPqvMbEAnything that goes note by note is easy to figure out on piano just by noodling around and remembering the sound
>>130196171My fav version:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO6J8nnxvyQ
>>130200102Get used to doing baby-talk humming in your head silently (or even out loud at the beginning). You know like this but in pitch do do do dee dum do la do but according to the song you're trying to absorb. If you already know the song because you've heard it a bunch of times already, you'll pick up that song much easier. But if it's new, it's clean-sheet territory so it helps to listen to it being played several times. If possible you can use a slow-downer program to slow it down without changing pitch. Amazing SlowDowner from Roni Music will allow this. Transcribe from seven-string music will also allow this as well as both do looping and you can slow the tempo down without changing pitch. Then it becomes learning one note at a time or chord at a time. Advanced musicians look at the key signature and are generally able to figure out what chords are in the progression typically as well as what scales go with those chords. This isn't bulletproof but it allows musicians to skim a bit more. They have a lot of experience so they can figure a lot of this out on the fly. Us newbs can't yet. For you though I'd look into synthesiagame.com for their Synthesia software. The video on their site isn't that good at really explaining what the program can do. That's where YouTube comes in. Try this e-leader guy, he's super chill and aimed at children basically so it's easy. Learn what the program can actually do. How you can slow stuff down and enable waiting mode. This all allows better learning retention. But basically it's all memorization. If you can't remember stuff, you'll have problems.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWBTihldIm8
>>130201639Oh and the more notational reading you do every day (even 5 to 10 mins/day) will greatly help you to learn songs because you're actually reading notes. Not just memorizing sounds. Think of this as learning how to read a book with words in them. You first started out learning how to print the alphabet. Then you started to sound out words. Then you learned better reading and better writing and better speaking of these words because your vocabulary grew with practice and repetition. It took time and effort and daily practice. Music is a language of sound and needs to be treated just as you would learning a different language. The more you use it, the better. The more retention and comprehension you'll have. Eventually you can express your own thoughts and ideas and not just parrot others learning their songs. But that comes down to exposure, practice and listening to artists/musicians in your favorite genre(s) of music. The killer thing is that there are just 12 notes in Western music. Just assembled in different patterns over different time periods. Just like a spoken sentence. In theory, it should be much easier to learn music with only 12 notes versus the English language using 26 letters. Deceptively easy eh? NOT so much as you know...Oh and in the beginning say the names of the notes you play out loud. Even if just random notes. Build your note recognition and keyboard layout. Say those notes in pitch if possible. It can help you build your singing voice too and help memorization. At first you'll suck. But eventually you won't.
>>130201919>The killer thing is that there are just 12 notes in Western music.I mean this is still very hard, not learning the 12 notes but i mean everything else the chords and the techniques that go along them has an insane almost unlimited skill ceiling. augmented chordshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_5cC1a1Y5M&t=40sus chords, extended chords then individual techniques on how you are playing like staccato style, etc the piano is something you can teach to children yes, possibly even toddlers with enough IQ to comprehend what they are doing but raising up to the challenge of becoming a master is decades of practice... or an absolutely amazing teacher that can get you all pro in 5 years but likely this kinda guy is doing his own compositions and will only teach once he retires.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp7XhDZb5TA
>betho makes the equivalent of a shitpost song like Discovery Channel, etc>it's actually very hardhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32YX6qhTGi8based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwcUXy6u_Gs
posting beautiful piano music i find myself listening to lately.https://youtu.be/bn_uPmEXgH8?si=JDz1KCwg8Gp6F9Jshttps://youtu.be/NClCE4Th8tI?si=9jZyK6ELlkSVjxKLhttps://youtu.be/L5LdcJBbyag?si=DmITKKv7-WkZ9XVKhttps://youtu.be/kOqqsNMiRn0?si=37e2vTrx_p74jnc0
>>130204165FF scores are goated, Square Enix just has a lot of money and they know how to pick and choose their composers very well. They only get the elite of the elite in Japan nowadays.Anyway this vid was interesting:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoQQ_cTHWPw
>>1302041652:49 from the FF4 song is good, thats a good pattern to elaborate uponand ofc theme of love is really good, Umatsu was good at coming up with melody, he wasnt classically trained though. Sometimes he stole ideas from Prog Rock bands lel...I believe this is similar to his Lavos Theme from Chrono Trigger that he composed for:https://youtu.be/JxBQPcfFJnM?si=WnBxzhqx8w0_mkax
>>130204368https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyuiujk1Sl0
>>130198451I plan to start (violin) at 45...>>130200537>But Pros imagine scores like that then they play.No. Pic related is how it works.
>>130204495violin is retardedly hard, its all ear, you got no fretsjust buy the SWAM virtual instruments for keyboard on the computer and play those with your piano midi controller.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvSVJkRsrC4
>>130204495>I plan to start (violin) at 45...The difficulty of playing violin is playing the right pitch, a lot of professional violinists have to quit because as they get older they get worse at discerning pitch. You might not even be able to learn it at that age
violin is cool though, the slight error on the pitch is part of the charm,, otherwise you wouldn't get fiddle playing
also this thing exists, you can even mount it with a contraption if you're that afraid of your violin slipping from your shoulder
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>>130205012https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2XGLYW6r53A
>>130200483who said I wanted to learn playing the piano, retard? I'm already pro level on the piano. I just wanted to share that there is a great new midi controller with an incredible keyboard coming out that fills a niche that no other controller has before.
>>130205070dunk that glarry marketer
>>130204883Your love makes you deaf to it.
>>130200483JUST GET A FUCKING SMALL ANALOG SYNTH AND FAKE IT YEEEHAW
>>130205082>glarry marketeer>posts an AkaiU shur bout dat?
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>>130205492yeah because its the cheapest option i assumed that anon was a noob that is just starting out like 90% of people ITT
>>130204951>>130205026Do you have any idea how many people end up smashing their violin after they get filtered by how hard it is? Even the bowing technique is not something you will be able to get down day 1 to even play it. You wont be able to even play open notes right.Prepare to get filtered and annoyed, a lot. also the strings are very delicate with the fine tunners and everything prepare to break them a lot and go to buy new ones as a noob. You been warned.Just play the piano.
>>130205589>Even the bowing technique is not something you will be able to get down day 1 to even play it.I know and fully expect to just practice long open notes for a long time.I already play piano, but want to be able to somewhat play violin to give me a new perspective on composing pieces for piano+violin.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvre-WnH9jw
>>130205589mate i own a violin and play it occasionally, i know the struggle but just like other instruments, you won't get immediately good if you only train with the thing once in a while
>>130205676bowing on one string isn't that hard, i followed this technique where you deliberately over-press your bow to one string and slowly decrease the pressure to the point you no longer hear the squeaking and that's when you slowly get used to it. also the guessing pitch part is also part of the fun because it develops both your ear and finger memory.coming from a guitar's background, it couldn't be helped that i wanted to shred on that too and of course it turned out badly but it's still a fun phase to make your bowing smoother, especially when you move to other strings. i still think having some guitar experience will make a good base to move to violin, you still need to adjust that it's tuned in fifth compared to fourth though. but the good part of instruments tuned in fifth, you can play like C-D-E-G-A-B with the same set of fingers, same position but just in different strings so that's a good exercise as well.I wish I had more time screwing around with my violin but i'm always too tired after work.
>>130205794>i followed this technique where you deliberately over-press your bow to one string and slowly decrease the pressure to the point you no longer hear the squeaking and that's when you slowly get used to it.Good tip. I'm likely going to take lessons -- might be weird being taught by someone younger than me. Oh well.I have guitar experience too, but I wouldn't call myself a guitarist. Drop D (or whatever) has the first two strings tuned a fifth apart :)
>>130205848>-- Hmmm? Not many people use -- are you posting on a Mac? Am I talking with a known artist?
>>130206178You've asked me this before. No, I am not on a Mac.
>>130206432But you didnt answer if you are a known artist or not. You must be...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv6aR0XyeWUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=behzKd69WFc
How many minutes a day should I be stretching my hands to be able to reach larger intervals?I feel like stretching should be able to get me to the point where my thumb and pinky make a straight line.
>>130207224octave is all you need and you should be able to reach that automatically
>>130207229No, I need more. Like... I can reach this, but it's not comfortable.
>>130207289>playing with sheet musicare you umm gay or smth?
last bump before going to sleepgood night piano bros and sisters
>>130207624gn
>>130207337So, you don't like playing music correctly, or for that matter... well? Keep sucking, if that's your thing.
>>130207224How do you stretch? I just do Hanon's part 1 and 2. It doesn't really have any huge stretches though, I guess the individually fingered diminished seventh are the most you get in terms of pure stretches.
What program will let me just plug my midi keyboard in and play sounds on it
>>130208544Kyma
Harpsichord > Piano
>>130209429No. But its good. Plucking strings also has a bit of more delay than hammering them to make them vibrate. Anyway: Electric Piano > all else.Because it has a ton of sounds. And you can use Synthesizers in your computer to make your own custom sounds. It's only drawback is you need electricity so you cannot be playing it in a cabin in the mountains or something.
>>130208544Any DAW does this right? Logic, FL Studio, etc?
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Play more.Only in my 40 I discovered that I have perfect pitch and that my brain also just automatically knows what key and scale a song is written in.
>>130212610My respects if you aint lying.I can figure out notes just fine too but they have to be in the distortion im playing, synths make it harder to recognize the notes, when they do that I try to make my keyboard sound as similar as i can to what im hearing to find out what notes are being used. Or I use a distortion that is similar to theirs, the closest i can find. This helps a lot to figure out things.
>>130212649>My respects if you aint lying.I have no idea what names for any of it are, but my subconscious just knows which keys are good and which are bad.This might have been there all my life, but I also started composing in 99 or so, so I might have picked it up on that journey.
>>130212797Pitch I discovered when I tuned my analog synth just by ear, no reference. Then checked it in Live, it's perfect.I started playing to songs, I just need to hear enough to get an Idea what key and scale is used.My conscious mind is more of a spectator, it all happens automatically.Fuck you, dear brain, fuck you subconcious.Also...thanks, this is fun.
>>130212863thats a cute pot
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>>130212863Main point is, I might have had this for a long time.My uncle lives comfortably from hid old music btw.
>>130214759But I never even tried....I was just composing my shit and happy with it.
How do you learn triad inversions? Is there a formula like the first inversion is the fifth relative minor or something?
>>130208495I push my hand up against the edge of the keys to try and get my pinky and thumb in a straight line.My left hand is probably maxed out with not much to gain, but my right hand still has a bit more it can stretch. Not sure if this is just because most of the pieces I've played on piano have larger chords in the left hand only, or if it's because I also play guitar.
>>130215083you don't learn the exact numbering, you learn it by deciding which leading voice the chord should sound. like for example if you want the E note to sound more pronounce in your C major chord, then you place the E as the highest note in your fingering then the rest will follow (which means G-C-E).
>>130215083>Is there a formula like the first inversion is the fifth relative minor or something?Inversions of a triad are just different vertical arrangements of the same notes -- they're not going to be become something else like the 'fifth relative minor.'For example, a simple major triad in root position has the root note on the bottom, 3rd in the middle, and 5th on top. First inversion is the 3rd on the bottom, 5th in the middle, and roof on top.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwUcAafqs70
>>130215813uhh does this have anything to do with keys?
>>130217610watch the video, it's about the system of current jazz education where they keep teaching that if you're given some jazz song to play, for each chord progression you must stick to the rule of improvisation like with C minor chord you must play this mode, seventh chord you must play this mode (lydian, mixolydian etc) and it makes the playing soulless.instead he prefers it that you know the original melody first, use that as the leading voice, and after that you're free to add some embellishment as long as it doesn't ruin the melody.
>>130217678A Jazz style that is concious of melody and not just improv is how most Jazz should have been in the first place. I like the idea.I already subscribe to the idea that Melody is the most important part of music and by a large margin. Coming up with it is what separates the plebs from the pros.
>>130218424Based
What kind of pianos/keyboards/synths do you guys have? I'm currently learning on a Roland FP-10 but my teacher wants me to get something better, but I'm not sure what to buy. She recommends a Yamaha CLP-825/835 because it's what she uses (well, a CLP-735).
>>130207289Where's that sheet music from? You're not playing Szymanowski again, are you?
>>130219095N-No... (the frog will never know my secret)
>>130219034If you can afford that comfortably and she gonna teach you good things you like and you all gonna get along and all that jazz then go for it. But personally i use an Akai. I dont own a synth i use emulators on my laptop when.i feel like playan synthy stuff :>
>>130204321>>130204368Uematsu is my favourite composer by virtue of not being classically trained.his compositions are relatively simple and as you say, more in line with prog rock than classical composition, but his music carry's such a warmth and emotional pull for me.he essentially knows exactly how to create whatever feeling he wants to convey in his music to a T.i'll be very bummed when he passes away.
>>130220576He is alrite he is good at coming up with melody and thats what matters the most in music.
>>130220576>keyboards set up>mac connectedyup is gaming time
Bump because I'm going to the gym, somebody else watch the thread for me.
>>130219593Yeah, money is no problem, it's not exactly expensive. I've been taking lessons for a year now and we get along great, she's wonderful. I think I'll go with either the Yamaha or a Kawai that I tried, even though the action feels much softer than what she has. Maybe it's a mistake, but then again, I can always buy a new piano if it comes to that. >>130223965Bumping for you. I never thought I'd actually like playing the piano as much as I do. Only bought my first keyboard on a whim when I was drunk. Then I tried some exercises and learning a, what I thought was, a simple song. Only to find out it was much harder than I thought. Which is when I knew I wouldn't make it on my own and that I needed a teacher to guide me. But that was probably the best decision I've made these past two decades.
>>130166167Rick explaining keys theory rn:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTQikkt7IuA
This song is so fucking beautiful it made me cry:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF1_Q-jnFkkhttps://chordify.net/chords/piano-betcover-topichttps://www.songsterr.com/a/wsa/betcover-piano-tab-s2104541Once you understand the lyrics you get it, this song is emo as fuck. He is talking to his piano metaphorically that the "tune" has changed im assuming he is talking about a person here a relationship he used to have is no longer the same and it changed it's "tune" forever, it will no longer be the same again, the metaphors that he used I think are really good, some are translated wrong here:https://lyricstranslate.com/en/betcover-piano-english>the tune of your piano has changed>the piano that i wanted>the treasure chest i was infatuated with>little by little the night vanishes into darkness
>>130215083Go hereREAD ONLINE (emedded) pgs, 2, 4 & 5 and onwardsThis is a piano theory book - Grade 1 Book 3.If you want a copy use: https://scribd.vdownloaders.com/And follow the directions. Takes a bit of waiting but it usually rips Scribd stuff well. This is a 6.7 MB PDF and it works, I am looking at the finished copy now to tell you this.
>>130226189Forgot the actual ebook URL...DUH!https://www.scribd.com/document/803082234/Alfred-s-Theory-Book-3-Grade-1-20220916-0001Copy and paste that full URL into the vdownloaders.com URL in the other post...obtain book.
>>130219095You got it, fren.That measure is from Narcisse -- the second piece in the Mythes Op.30.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rE5GgugZxA~11:04I'm not actually learning that piece now, I was just following along for fun and plan to learn it in the future. Sadly I don't know any violinists who would play with me :(For now, I'm just working on Jeux d'eau. Wish I had more time to practice consistently but I've been busy with work.>>130219568The frog knows all my secrets.>>130219034I have a Kawai CA65 that I like more than my acoustic upright. It's definitely worth trying different ones out in the store to see how they feel, which it sounds like you've done.
>>130225961betcover!! is really cool you can tell those guys love music and are passionate about it.
>>130227088Yeah man their music either hypes me up or hits me in the feels in a good way they got a good pianist too.
I'm back, bump.
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>>130229404you only need major and minor
>>130229414Understandable have a great day
>>130229606and altered scale
>>130226523Haha, I fucking knew it was Szymanowski. I rarely listen to him but my pattern recognition game is unmatched. Anyway, keep up the amazing work!
This is the 13th bar from Chopin’s Prelude 28-7. What does the square bracket with the “1” signify? I can’t find any info on it. Also how are you even meant to play that? A4 to e6 seems like an impossible stretch to me.
is a semi weighted 61 keys midi controller ok for the first 1-2 years if you don't have room for a digital piano?
>>130230733yeah i suppose, what particular brand?
bumperino
>>13023073361 keys is bare minimum to git gud, 88 keys is preferable but sure why not. it doesnt have to be midi only, it just has to be able to be used as a midi controller then you download synth emus to sound good. It desnt matter if the default sound of the piano is bad, with a synthesizer emulator you make your own sound ofc though you will ONLY be able to sound good within your computer not outside if the rest of the distortions/tones/effects of the piano you bought are cheap.
>>130166167>>130166167Why can't I have a floor pedal load VSTs, take midi, and spit sound for bulletproof live use so I can use my DAW instruments? Do not want a PC on stage.
>>130231247Why not? A lot of musicians have their laptops live on stage, mainly DJs though. This is also the cheapest option very likely, im sure there is specialized tools for what you want out there but thats gonna be more do$h
>>130231147One of my main concerns is not having fully weighted keys. How much of an issue would it be in the future if i only play a midi controller for a couple of years with semi weight and then switch to a digital piano with fully weighted keys?
>>130231261Stability, that's all. I don't want some update or FB post in the song lol. I could do a micro PC but also a psychological disconnect to home. Like... Ok this is the stage rig only. I'm decorating an old 1910 radio cabinet as a pa for it.
Korean Bro still practicing:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR_4RCFGEGs
>you will never be able to play ScriabinWhy live?
>>130231310I mean you can configure whatever DAW you use to only capture and make audible the sounds within the DAW & not any operative system (OS) sounds. There is ways to mute ur mac or windows notification sounds but alright. I get what you mean about disconnecting from home. I dont relate entirely though as a bedroom producer. I do everything w/ my laptop and my keys. It's my sanctuary. My "video game" to entretain myself, my everything, my sovl is in my laptop, very personal lyrics and all of that is all within it. thats why I hate when people touch it when its unlocked, i dont want my soul gazed. So i get what you are sayin imagine bringing your laptop and fans or other band members middling with it while unlocked... ugh... gazing into souls will make anyone being gazed into feel uncomfortable.
>>130231620Not with that attitude
>>130231620This is Vers la Flamme, right? Always been one of my fav from him.I used to be able to kinda play it, but as a more of an approximation - like all those chord tremolos, I wouldn't play them with the *exact* rhythm and timing they were written in, pretty sure I played the rhythm in the first half wrong as well, think I didn't play everything with the same hand the sheet music said to, etc, but I still remember it giving a great effect and being very fun to play. The harmony is gorgeous.I really should revisit it more thoroughly someday, but fuck man, learning it really is like climbing mountain
>>130232582Nah, I literally never will be able to. I started the piano way too late.>>130232857Yup. I know he's originally a Romantic composer, and Romantics were obsessed with "worshipping the sheet music" or whatever, but I'm fairly convinced these kind of rhythms are written as an approximation. Like, you couldn't tell if they're a little off, and the thing is so fucking difficult anyway that every performance sounds very different. As you said, what matters is the effect and atmosphere it creates. Sounds like you pretty much nailed that. But yeah, Scriabin's harmonies are fucking amazing.
>>130234222unrelated but i just did these shoudler workouts (without that amount of weight) and im seeing blurry right now due to the fatigue but gawd dayum the shoulders feel pumped.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8J5vtiVY_cI'm tired as fuck i dont even know what im writing with my blurry vision, I will recover this has hapepned to me before. I will play the piano for a while just random stuff that comes to mind. im bored and tired.
>>130230316Thnx :3>>130230459It means that you play both the A# and C# with your thumb. It's not A4 to E6, the top note is a C3 -- the only white key is the E natural.
>>130237348>C3...obviously I meant C# but I let go of shift too early and didn't proofread-_-
>>130166167ID on this synth?
>>130237516mwah :*have a good day anon
>>130237537...it literally says Arturia Minilab mk2 right on top?
>>130198451If you want to actually be good yesLook up any great pianist and you'll find that they started at like 6 years old
>>130237571u got good eyes thanks
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too lazy to train but also too lazy to game so i'm just scrolling between bird app and 4chin
>>130240372You will be ok anon you just need inspiration, it will come to you like a bolt of lightning one day
>>130235941Chat GPT answer on what is that:>This chart is basically a jazz harmony / chord-scale tension map showing:>Which notes sound stable, colorful, or dissonant over specific C-based seventh chords.>Color key:>Blue = Chord tones>These are the core notes defining the chord:>Root>3rd>5th>7th>These are your “safe” strongest tones.>Green = Available tensions>These are extensions that generally sound good:>9>11>13>altered tensions depending on chord type>These add color without clashing badly.>Red = Unavailable tensions>These usually create harsh avoid-note clashes:>minor 9ths against chord tones>unstable altered notes>strong dissonances>Not forbidden, but usually treated carefully.>Row breakdown:>CMaj7>Chord:>C E G B>Safe tensions:>D (9)>F# (#11)>A (13)>Avoid:>Db>D#>F>Ab>Bb>Why: F clashes with E (major 3rd), Db clashes with C>Bb weakens maj7 sound>Typical mode:>Lydian preferred (because of #11)>Cm7>Chord:>C Eb G Bb>Safe:>D (9)>F (11)>A (13)>Typical:>Dorian>Cø (half diminished)>Chord:>C Eb Gb Bb>Safe:>D (9)>F (11)>Ab (b13)>CmMaj7>Chord:>C Eb G B>Exotic / cinematic:>D (9)>F (11)>A (13)>Very noir / dramatic sound.>CMaj7#5>Chord:>C E G# B>Augmented major:>D (9)>F# (#11)>Dreamy / unstable.>C° (fully diminished)>Chord:>C Eb Gb Bbb>Safe:>D (9)>F (11)>Ab (b13)>B (natural 7)>Very symmetrical / tense.>Practical use:>Improvisation: Choose green + blue>Composition: Green for color>Avoid: Red unless intentionally dissonant
How do I notate this rhythm properly?>bar 53 onwardshttps://vocaroo.com/15nhmAPdzT78I've got the notes correctly, but I'm trying to nail the authentic rhythm from the song. I've dissected it in my DAW, aligned every drum beat meticulously and synced it to the piano. I'm using 5/4 here, but I'm not sure if that's the most convenient time signature for this. The Ab-Eb in bar 54 comes in slightly off-beat and I had to resort to those tied notes.No other place in the song has that weird syncopation going on. Should I notate it as a dotted half note and a half note and add a notice above that says to slightly delay the 2nd chord (Ab-Eb-Ab)?
>>130243846Like this for example. Is there a way to avoid the tied half-note and 8th note?
>>130243846like 2 guys in the whole thread can read sheets and notate anon. We are mostly chordfags, letter notation for me only.
>>130243846First off, I feel like you should probably write this in 5/8, it would make much more sense in term of the drums and feel of the piece.Secondly, you generally want your rhythms to be written in a way where it's obvious where the beats are. Looking at your sheet music at a first glance, it's not *immediately* obvious to me where the third beat lands compared to the chords on bar 53 or 54. To solve this on bar 53 for instance, you should reverse the second half note and eight note, so that it's half note and tied to an eight note, and then another eight note tied to a half. That way everything would be more readable, and make it much easier to say "okay, it's ONE and two and three AND four and five and"bar 54, avoid using dotted 8th notes if you're not writing a 16th right after, that's also confusing and it "hides" the beat>>130244008You really should know how to read rhythm even if you're not interested in reading notation overall
>>130244208Thank you. That makes sense, even more when I look at the latter parts like the one in the screenshot. Using 5/8 would basically halve it and let each little phrase be its own bar.I hate Guitar Pro 8 for not having a feature which would automatically do this. Now I get to redo the whole score.>>130244008I'm also at the very early stage of learning, but the book I'm going through teaches via notation/sheet music. I don't even like or plan to play classical music, but I guess it won't hurt knowing the basics.I also play guitar and I enjoy transcribing my favourite songs, so I can play along to the backing tracks I create for them. Sometimes I get into these situations which are way above my head. For example, I currently only "know" how to play 3 scales and C minor isn't one of them. This song is in C minor, so even though I transcribed this, I couldn't technically play this off the sheet music, because the flats aren't ingrained into my brain yet.
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>>130244431as long as you are learning anon thats productive, keep your head up.
https://vocaroo.com/1o6Fjntf6DEKWhat genre is this bros?
>>130248985muzak, jk its kinda into the jazz direction nice distortion
>>130243246>Chat GPT answer on...
I fucked up and told a chick I play piano (I dont), what song can I learn in about two days that will impress her
>>130251379twinkle twinkle little star
>>130251379Vers la flamme
>>130199400I practice around 2-3 hours a day, 30-60 minute sessions. I usually start each session by playing some scales, arpeggios or Hanon/Czerny for 5-10 minutes before jumping into a piece my teacher has given me. I have 3-4 pieces that I'm practicing on (my first year I had 1-2 at a time). I practice these until I've reached a level my teacher is happy with (some I learn almost "completely", like Gymnopedie #1; some are just to get me accustomed to new techniques and when I'm finished with those pieces I still can't play them for shit). Takes about 2-4 months to "finish" a piece right now.
>>130238196Such a shitty answer. Just because you're not part of the very top players doesn't mean you can't be good.
What pieces are you currently practicing? For me it's some sonata (don't know which) and a waltz by Sjostakovitj (I think). Really struggling with both since it's my first time practicing thirds like this.
>>130251892>SjostakovitjFirst time seeing Shostakovich written like that. Why, in what language do you write it like that?Btw the waltz is this one, isn't it?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbgUpuv-wu0
>>130251972>First time seeing Shostakovich written like that. Why, in what language do you write it like that?Just checked because I was surprised too but apparently it's Danish?
>>130198451>tfw going to start at 32I'm fucked, aren't I?
>>130251972>>130252067I don't know, I think I just decided to write it differently today. I usually write Shostakovich, though I think his name is written Sjostakovitj here. Yeah I think that's the Waltz I'm practicing, the start sounds familiar. Do you know what that waltz is called? I can't seem to find a pure piano version of it and I really liked it when my teacher played some of it for me.
>>130252073No? Just have fun with it. I started a bit more than a year ago at 33. Just don't try to compare yourself to other people, only think about becoming better than you were the day/week/month before.
gonna refocus my music training by picking the nearest instrument from my seatingah yes my chromatic harmonica i haven't touched for months you're the next victim
>>130252073You do this for a dopamine rush. Either you are pleasing yourself or wish to please others by sharing your musical knowledge. Pleasure is derived via neurotransmitters. If you cannot derive pleasure from learning to play (or playing) an instrument then you should choose another hobby. It's okay, not everyone is cut out to be a musician. Maybe you should pick up basket weaving or synchro swimming instead? You could play the spoons or the tambourine I guess. Cowbell doesn't seem that hard.
>>130197228I'm going to do it with mini desktop synth and you can't stop me.
>>130250994Chat is fine as long as the music isn't just straight generated
>>130255126>practicing>dopamine rushdoubt.jpg
It's almost monday. On monday I'll (hopefully) be finished with Gymnopedie #1 and a sonata, both of which my teacher will record me playing. Then I'll receive 1-2 new pieces to practice on. Wish me luck, because I'm so tired of these pieces. I need something else to practice on, from the beginning, and get back to thinking about learning how to read sheet music. We've talked a bit and I think at least one of the new pieces will be a cantabile from Chopin, we'll see what the other one is. Hope you all have a great week. Remember to practice daily, even if it's only for 10 minutes. Consistency is key. Never too late to start. And so on and so forth. As long as you have fun. It's the friends we made along the way etc.
>>130257511kawaiiyeah, chopin is master class.>Hope you all have a great week. Remember to practice daily, even if it's only for 10 minutes. same to you brother. at the very least do the daily warm ups it doesnt even take that long.
>>130257725I don't understand why folks keep shitting on Chopin in the /classical/-thread. There are few people who've pumped out so much quality stuff that he did before his untimely death. Everything from nocturnes to waltzes, mazurkas, etudes, polonnaises, sonatas etc. He put out so much quality stuff from different things it's unbeliavable. Makes me think most of the people in /classical/ are pretentious faggots who've never touched a piano themselves. >at the very least do the daily warm ups it doesnt even take that long.Thanks for the reminder. I mostly focus on scales but I'll try to focus more on arpeggios and Hanon from now on.
>>130257986I don't frequent /classical/ but it's not uncommon for general threads to just have one or two prominent schizos spamming whatever dogshit opinions they have every chance they get. Wouldn't be surprised if that's the case here as well. But I digress.I certainly like Chopin a lot.
What do you guys do when having a bad practice day? Today it felt like nothing was going right, couldn't sightread as well as I normally can, hitting the wrong keys, etc.
Why keytars failed and became such a gimmick?
>>130258653Accept that it's perfectly normal to have an off day and don't let it get to you. Come back tomorrow fresh or maybe even take a day or two off. It's not a straight path up the mountain. Sometimes there are plateaus, sometimes you slip, and sometimes you make serious jumps. Let that fade into the background of your persistent practice and don't get emotionally attached to either good or bad days. Just keep climbing.
>>130258653Burnout is real (for me anyway). I do feel like I hit a wall where improving stops or I even backslide. Your brain needs a chance to consolidate information. It took me a long time to understand that breaks can be just as important as active practice. After exercise you need to let your body recover so it can give its all again. Same thing here. Take a day or two to recover or if you still want to play, practice something else, play an old song you like just for fun, do something totally different. When you return to your regular practice I bet you'll notice improvement.
>>130255126>You do this for a dopamine rush.For me it's like a deep meditation where my mind drifts off and before I know it a couple hours have passed. The next best thing to being asleep...>>130257511Based Kawaii bro.
>>130258757it only looks cool for 1-2 songs before it becomes ridiculous
>>130257986Maybe cuz Chopin is kinda super mainstream and its taught a lot or recommended a lot. But it's because what he did works. Personally I tend to like piano heavy classical music, the classical music im sick of is violin heavy music I heard enough, its boring. I'd prefer if most violin progressions got transcribed to Electric Guitar like Yngwie does thats fun. Skip around if you want:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mylvwhy63bk
>>130258757limited range and 1 hand. There is some badass keytars tho with the pitch wheel and all that you can make those synthy wiu wiu sounds and add to the layers of music when playing live. So they are not outdated just for certain songs.this nigga has good taste:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k-assJkmtwno im not black just pointing it out, rare these days. I thought rap destroyed their taste in good more artistic instrumental music and ambiance but for every 100 that are into rap slop 1 must develop good taste and divert.The world of melody is retvrning to the world i can feel it. Melody bros we gonna make it. Music renaissance soon if we keep grinding.
>>130261331i think it's because of the 1-handedness makes it that it's only useful for keyboard solo and people realize it's just easier to just do the solo with the actual keyboard rather than going back and forth, alternating between playing the keys and needing to wield keytar.
>>130261379its not that difficult but it's limited. Basically you need a back up pianist while you just do lead melody. Keytar is great if you are a lead singer, just like normal guitar. You can sneak in a little keytar section that is going to touch everyone's hearts to your live music. Melody is Queen. Music ain't the same without it.
>>130258757Because they always WERE a gimmick.What's the point of the instrument, really? The only advantage it has over any other keyboard is the ability to walk around and looking "cool". And by "cool", I mean a very specific, 70's/80's, hair metal version of cool that, like everything, was doomed to look lame as hell ten years later.You're literally sacrificing range and the ability to use both hands just to have a mediocre at best stage presence.>>130261409>Keytar is great if you are a lead singer, just like normal guitarNah, if you're a lead singer you are better off just hiring a musician to play your keyboard parts if you want to stand up and entertain the crowd rather than looking like an absolute dork with your lil' keytar.
>>130262129playing an instrument is entertaining to the crowd because it showcases that you are willing to venture to other roles while being on a band, looks cool, its for the legacy. Singers that play instruments are cooler than singers that dont play them.
>>130166167I haven't practiced in two weeks
>>130264688just find a window of free time to at least warm up with something that is kinda fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQuINGQi3GA
I've been thinking that I should log my practices but I'm too lazy.Would be good to gauge how fast I'm learning and possibly see signs of stagnation/inefficient practice.
>>130261331>>130261409>>130262129limited range, no only has the same range of a guitar, connected to a computer is limitlessalso it has the same capabilities than a guitar: it's good for solos but also for rhythm section.>1 handagain, one hand in a keytar can do what a guitar does
>>130270531Starting a practice journal is when I feel like my practice really took off. Having data to look back at and build from is a game changer. You don't have to start complicated, just date, practice item and time spent. But I've found that the more I put into it, the more I get out of it. It's a small time investment for the amount of value you will get out of it. Highly recommended.
>>130270808Actually you can use 2 hands in the keytar but it feels a bit unbalanced but you can make it work in some sections of a song.
>>130270808>again, one hand in a keytar can do what a guitar doesAbsolutely not. Just based on the layout of the keys vs 6 strings + frets and what is physically possible to reach at the same time, plus the fact that each fretted note on a guitar can be pitch bent different (if you got the skills), vs a single bend that affects all held notes on a keytar via the pitch wheel.t. pianist who also plays guitar
You keyboard bros are crazy. Every key has a different topology wtf. Transposing chads rise up.
ebony and ivorryyyyy live in together in perfect harmonyyyy
Brother still delivering:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9VDaQ0M6fw
Bumper. Need to start practicing my scales or I'm gonna lose it.
no one practices anymore so it doesn't matter
>>130281334I practiced a bit yesterday, but I was too tired to turn the page, so I didn't learn anything new.
>>130281891i practice my e-sax as always, i'll try gaining speed but muscle memory is hard
2 more measures to learn before peak climax...
>>130283435bump keep training fellow anonymous member of the music board
>>130281334Is that little bun on his head a representation of his brain size
>>130166167https://us.donnermusic.com/products/donner-dp-10-bluetooth-foldable-portable-keyboard-88-key-semi-weighted-with-bagIs it better than a Glarry?
>>130286588Same thing basically. Always watch review vids on YT
What do when I'm away from home and don't have an instrument to practice with? Can I still practice somehow? Should I be doing some stretching or something to keep the finger strength up at least?
hi anons, just found this thread randomly, didn’t know it existed.i’ve been trying to learn harmony on bass. this is like my 10th attempt over the past 8 years. every time it goes the same way: i learn some stuff, practice it for a while, then start questioning where i’d even use that knowledge, and eventually drop it.a few years ago i realized bass might not be the best instrument for me to learn harmony on. i’m sure it works great for some people, but i don’t think it really clicks with my brain. so i got a keyboard, learned some basic tunes, then some songs i actually like, and that worked a little better. but again, at some point i dropped it, mostly because 1) i’m not really trying to become a pianist/keyboardist/synth player 2) where the fuck would i even use this anywaythat whole “where would i use this knowledge” is what keeps discouraging me. i played 8 years in mostly rock bands and it all kind of made me feel like i didn’t need to get that deep into harmony. don’t get me wrong, i tried drums for a few months to perhaps become a better bassist, and maybe that helped, but harmony just feels like too much effort for the average bassist-in-a-rock-band use case.after leaving my last band a few years ago (uninspiring crescendo-core) and being done with powerchord music i started thinking maybe i could put together a group to play live dilla-type beats with a jazzy vibe. unfortunately i can’t really find anyone who wants to do it. 99% of posts in my local fb band groups are people looking for playing rock, metal, or paid gigs.so now i’m not really sure what to do or where to find motivation. it got to the point where i started doing stupid shit like tracking my bass with some software on my pc and converting it to midi notes, then sending them to my korg synth so i can play 808 kicks with my bass guitar tldr im just being a whiny bitch so tell me what you think about this book
>>130289080you can literally play piano bass lines (the left hand) on Bass Guitar and it sounds good so long as its not chords. If its arpeggiated it sounds nice, if its just "beat" its nice too. for example I'm pretty sure you can play a Waltz rhythm on the bass guitar. So yeah learning piano in a way helps with Bass Guitar if you know the arrangement of the notes on it.
Which keyboard on the market has the absolute best pipe organ sound, one that actually comes close to sounding like a pipe organ?
>>130290213You can still finger a bass chord and play arpegiated.
>>130289080>a group to play live dilla-type beats with a jazzy vibe. unfortunately i can’t really find anyone who wants to do it.Of course nobody wants to do it, who the fuck would want to do a thing like that?
>>130290991Can you finger A minor on a bass?
i am in a musical rut now
>>130293789in a musical rut, huh?bust a musical nut, uhyeah
>>130288659Maybe practice on theory? There are also exercises for fingers you can look up.
Back from the Gym. I'm tired af I did chest day, back and some shoulders BUT I'm going to practice anyway.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYGAxiXd-KI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj3SSJAvwGM
Didn't practice today. It's ove.
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>>130294939he mogs me so hard it's depressing
>>130294939Is that even smart? I wonder how much of that time is actually spent efficiently? I know I can't sit nearly that long and practice, I lose my focus and then I'm just mindlessly pressing keys, not actually practicing. Or maybe he takes breaks during those hours, didn't actually watch the video. Anyway, time for another 30-40 minutes att the piano before it's time to cook up some lunch. Consistency, I think, is key. Rather than total hours spent. >>130294963Go practice a bit, even if it is just 10-15 minutes.
i'm gonna make it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzIaEf5O55Q
>>130293144You go to jail for fingering A minor you sick pedo.
>>130294939>>130296223I honestly find this such a sad way to think about music, and especially jazz - all scales, enclosures, technique, practice, every key, etc, but not a single thought given to emotion, composition, your own internal feelings, etc.It feels like someone trying to train themselves to be an AI
>>130301727Do you play jazz? If you can just sit down, play whatever you feel like and sound great, then you're extremely lucky. Most people need to practice a lot to get to a point like that. You need to know your scales, chords, intervals, you need to practice various songs and licks, improvise yourself and write down things you think sound good, and then reuse all that knowledge over and over again everytime you play. And that's not even touching upon the muscle memory and technical skill.
>>130295899Now two days in a row, no practice. Work is too busy :(Been thinking about ordering one of those digital keyboards with 7/8 scale keys so I can larp as Oscar Peterson...
pg 10is your sheet music ten pages long?
>>130301886I do play jazz, and yeah I did put a lot of work into it. Years of work.But it's not supposed to be JUST work, it's supposed to be music. Yes, the scales and arpeggios and different keys help, but thinking about emotions, feelings, vibe, etc, is just as important, if not more. Not to mention, individuality. Practicing exercises is nice, but there's a point where you have to ask yourself "what is MY playing like?".I honestly think it's much more valuable to know a few standards well and then actually going outside and jamming them with people. Hell, it's more important to be able to play a compelling pentatonic solo over a 12 bar blues than it is to bullshit your way through 12 keys.
Kawai ES120 or Roland FP-30X? Key action and base piano sound are a priority. I've seen like 5 videos comparing both and somehow I'm just as confused, lots of conflicting takes.
>>130289080Get like 4 desktop synths. You don't want to play keys anyway, and it's just a sequencer for your purposes.
>>130199720Wiggle isn't enough for me. I'm waiting for the first Time-Of-Flight keybed with support for gestures in aftertouch. That way you would be able to easily and natively recreate the sounds of a Theremin or Ondes Martenot with the same types of movements
Is it possible to get an AI to turn a video into a music sheet/MIDI?Fucking weird Korean ad for the Nektar SE61 has the best version of He Knows My Name I've heardhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zpbxz_BRcgWorst feeling ever
>>130310836Damn, guess I just had to google"Songscription" worked but was pretty bad transcription"Klangio" looks pretty good, from the first 30 seconds, but I gotta pay $5 (1 transcription)Reeeeee
>>130311361Basic Pitch is free
>>130166167Anyone using these shits? I recall these turning living room organs into symphonies with "expansion pack" set top boxes.
>>130307481Do you have a store near you so you can try them out in person?If not, I suppose you'll get used to whichever one you end up choosing.I'm a Kawai guy, but I have a CA -- not sure how different that is from the ES series.
Me? It’s Buchla
>>130301727>but not a single thought given to emotion, composition, your own internal feelings, etc.How exactly did you come to that conclusion?
>>130310836just copy along with what he is playing, you can hear the notes
>>130319356if you can do that you're amazingAnyway not shilling but I was impressed Klangio did a perfect a close to perfect transcription of the audio so I'll leave the recommendation to people in case they ever want to do something like that. Too bad it's $5 per transcription
>>130319459Its really not that amazing, just figure out the key and learn to recognize chord shapes and take it slow. Its less convenient but if you really wanted to learn it then it shouldn't be that much longer than reading it or copying the midi
Can I get some recommendations for jazz books? I'm still a beginner at piano, but I wanted to start learning some jazz. I was thinking of just getting some real book and simply learning songs from there, but I wonder if /keys/ might have some other recommendations, or maybe theory books that would be a good start?
>>130319801getting books pretty much requires you to read sheet notes, are you prepared for that? i think you can get some jazz basic from youtube like this dude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df2Np4lTnQs
>>130319822>are you prepared for that?I'm a beginner, but I've been playing for a few months, I can read sheet music, even if I'm not too fast at it.And yeah, I've been looking through some videos in the last week or so. I've been practicing the stuff from herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFS3uV08bcgrecently.I guess the question is whether a book would give be a better theory understanding or maybe better practice exercises, or if videos like those are enough at this level, and it's better to hold off on more theory until I've got a better grasp of the intrument in general.
>>130319847i had some jazz book downloaded called 'jazz piano book' by mark levine and it shows something like this. not my kind of studying but at least this is the example that you may get from a jazz book
