was this album really as genius and revolutionary as people give it credit? Was it not just par for the course of UK electronic music at the time? Also, there’s no way it’s as influential as people claimed, they used to act like it made Pop Music more atmospheric and moodier when really it was already headed in that direction anyways
>Was it not just par for the course of UK electronic music at the time?no
yeah, it aged like milk
>>130168358>they used to act like it made Pop Music more atmospheric and moodier when really it was already headed in that direction anywayswasnt 2007 when all the dance pop edm fusion started with flo rida kesha katy perry pitbull david guetta?
>>130168358the debut is better
>>130168566What makes it so special to you? I was never able to connect with it. Always felt a bit too dissociated
>>130168358yes. just listen to 'dubstep' or uk garage that came before or after. massive gap of quality.
>>130168859dubstep that came after sounds a lot more modern to me actually
>>13016888299% of it is bloat for gaming youtubers to use as background music
>>130168982https://youtu.be/4Dz6m6zvPXw?si=ltPyAVdYSeAqzcxI
>>130169015Contrarian incels will you look in the eyes and say this is better than Untrue
>>130169185this ones better yeahhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_3ImB-AtJI
>>130168358were you listening to music before Burials Untrue album existed? were you born?if you don't know what was before then you can't comment. you're saying travel was convenient enough with horses.
>>130169292burial had like, 0 influence. and if he did, all of that was gone a year later when dubstep and uk garage got way way heavier and optimistic sounding liquid dnb blew up
Burial has been one of the few artists in my life that truly blew me away. But the absolute peak was the massive attack collab (Paradise circus & Four walls) that had a legit impact on my life and I have been listening to it frequently for the past 15 years.With time I learned that it's a level of art a lot of people simply can not grasp. But that's ok, that's the case with many things.
>>130168859>>130169015>>130169195>>130169334Holy shit why do people always say this? Even calling his debut dubstep is a stretch.It’s like calling Boards of Canada IDM.He’s always been more of an experimenter and a nostalgia kid, pulling from many genres like rave, ambient, jungle, garage, 2-step, RnB. It was literally his whole schtick and he was never really even that close to dubstep, he has like 3 or 4 total songs with any kind of wub or reese bass. Hell I can think of more times that he’s used a Hoova.
>>130169352His music always touched some deep part of my heart as a young teen, the part that worried I would be abducted by aliens if I spent too much time in the wilderness alone.It comes from a place of raw honesty but also a little like a plea to be accepted. He seems like an outsider and kind of weird; less in a loser incel way and a lot more in a misunderstood esoteric guy kind of way. Every photo of him makes him look like a depressed unshaven runway model, really odd.
>>130169480thats what i said, half his album is ambient but anons insisted it was dubstep and the only good dubstep at that
>>130169587it's better than all dubstep that's for sure.
>>130169707eh
>>130169480>makes 2step songs>uses dub techniques and influences >hurr durr how is it dubstep You are just mad he strayed away from heavy reggae influences and made something unique that stood out. It’s dubstep even if you dont want to acknowledge it. The difference was his sample sources. Stay mad
>>130169858I’m not some dubstep purist, there is just such a wide gap in atmosphere, sonic texture, and song structure there’s no point in calling it dubstep. It was also pretty far from what other Hyperdub artists were putting out at the time, what are you even saying?For example, Ghost Hardware has so much more in common with a jungle/DnB song structure than any dubstep at the time. The sample placement, intro length, the codas, the general wandering vibe with almost no focus on the bass but a lot of focus on vocals, atmosphere and drums:Ghost Hardware: https://youtu.be/y8NoplRfb-wGeneric liquid DnB:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2FqRZSaEN0https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8ut11K6S6lY&pp=0gcJCVACo7VqN5tDNot trying to be combative I just don’t know what your frame of reference is.
I don't give a fuck about the genre fetish you guys have. Burial had a unique sound. Some (cultural barbarians) think it's just noise, others feel touched by god. Fact is, he left a mark and put out great things. The untrue album definitely wasn't my favorite although it's what made him known to a broader audience. My favorite was nightmarket;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zxtypkkbLcBut probably played Truant the most of all for the chill vibe:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u4D0wAc2AA
>>130168358Untrue hate is the most forced contrarianism on nu-/mu/. Can we go back to the "Kurt Cobain was trans" threads? At least those were funny
To the people at the time (me) it was a huge album. I dont know how to articulate how influential it was or how its influence is in modern music still but I do think it is
>>130168358>was this album really as geniusit just exists i suppose
You look different.
>>130170308Im not reading all that shit
>>130171845
It's not that was influential, it's just that it was something a little different than what was available and what was known at the time, same as:Endtroducing by Dj ShadowMezzanine by Massive AttackShit, I'll even throw in some Ki-Oku by Toshinori Kondo & Dj Krush
>>130168358>Also, there’s no way it’s as influential as people claimed, they used to act like it made Pop Music more atmospheric and moodier when really it was already headed in that direction anywaysUntrue was a few years ahead of that trend. It probably influenced all of the minimal moody UK pop of the early 2010s like The xx, London Grammar, Jamie Woo, James Blake, etc. The bleak urban aesthetic was the opposite of the trends of those times (vintage twee hipsters, dance-punk rave indietronica kids, scenecore emos, etc.)
