>this used to be the face of old /mu/, brought up several times every single day on here in unique threads>listen to it for the first time>get the faggiest stomp clap hey millennial bullshit i've ever heard by a bunch of dudes who sound like they have giant beards and man buns>their faggot fans defend this with "you just had to be there maaaaaan, it's all about the... the feeling that the music evokes! *burp* *brap* *starts drowning in fat*Wow so old /mu/ used to be so much better huh when this and a bunch of pitchforkcore were being spammed? Right... I totally believe you guys
>>130195234>stomp clap heyBuzzword
>>130195234It sucks. Remember most posters on this board are fags that live in their parents mansion.
Nmh predates stomp clap my guy.
>>130195275Seethe poorcuck
>>130195311Where do you think they got it from gay boy
Its not stomp clap at all its indie folk and its the very peak of the genre. King of carrot flowers is peefection
>>130195234Old /mu/ = 2010s - early 2020s rym (now that place is getting diluted too : Meteora bolded) meaning old /mu/ was insufferable, no wonder fagtano came from this place...
>>130195234i always wondered why the woman's head was replaced with a sliced open coconut half
>>130195341enjoy your CPAP mask Taiten Titan Tyler Thomas IV
>>130195415Tambourine
>>130195415>>130195436Obviously a hand drum
>>130195436"i wished i could save her in some sort of time machine." huh. that rhymes. is that the symbolism?
>>130195358>it's not stomp clap hey, it's indie folk!
>>130195509not being able to tell the difference is the mark of a pure plebpretending to not understand the difference is simply retarded
>>130195234I've been on 4chan since 2005 and still can't understand how anyone ever listened to sthis shit without full-body cringing. The Pitchfork and Fantano drone era sucked ass.
>>130195593are you op?
>>130195415>>130195436>>130195474It’s a potato
>>130195581The difference between shit and fucking shit
>>130195474>>130195436>>130195415It's a potato.
It's kinda insane how this dude's one video parodying indie pop destroyed the image of the entire scene. I mean, it was already pretty dead but this was like a nail in the coffin
>>130195234is that a potato on her head
>>130195625nobody knows who that is
>>130195234Fag still too scared to make a new album because he knows he was carried on this one.
>>130195733https://youtu.be/PKVOeQICi1A?si=e-QNu_4csJvXR792
>>130195234NMH were wayyyy less commercial than shit like Mumford and Sons
>>130195509Learn more about music if you want your opinion taken seriously, there is no stomps or claps in NMH and none of the vocal harmony chant ahit you get either.
>>130195755https://www.youtube.com/shorts/P4LiYH9CslM
>>130195593You must not have a soul or you'd be able to feel what made so many fans lose their mind over this album, the moment each accompanying instrument comes in on the opener is pure raw feeling.>>130195618Outing yourself as a novice
>>130195836Way to prove my point in the original post:>heir faggot fans defend this with "you just had to be there maaaaaan, it's all about the... the feeling that the music evokes!
>>130195811Adam Friedlands a funnier Jew than this guy
>>130195234holy shit not even close to stomp clap lumineers
>>130195859There's music thats is objectively soulful and earnestly song written. NMH is high up there in terms of its content, delivery, writing and specifically the melodic choices. There's no you had to be there because everyone is still awake that its a peak of a sound and that has nothing to do with stomp clap.
>>130195755>>130195625he's literally just parodying the lumineers. and the scene died because their follow up albums werent that good. but they still sell out shows
>>130195355Arcade Fire
>>130195912I see what you mean, I turn on Hey Ho by the Lumineers and it touches the depths of the soul with it's extremely eloquent songwriting and use of melody, specifically in the hook that is so infectious. I see why NMH and their big bearded front man singing about his love for anne frank on his acoustic guitar is so good now, thank you
>>130195960Cute which nmh sound like lumineers
>>130195234>stomp clap heyThis has to be bait. I get not liking NMH but how the fuck do you get that it’s stompfag music?
I distinctly remember when stompclap happened. I remembering not getting it or where the fuck it came from. I do not understand how it became associated with Millennials, but I can see that all of members of the Lumineerswere born before 1988. That goes for Imagine Dragons as welI. In fact, every single famous stomp clap band’s members were all born before 1988.You know who was born in 1988? Grimes. I have to assume every Millennial born prior to 1988 is a fucking piece of trash, and that Gen Y has been tainted by their existence.
>>130195960This is what Jeff Mangum looked like in 1998No beard ya faggot
>>130196031And this is what he looks like now, not exactly beating the stereotypes lol
>>130196050Yeah and he doesn't even make music anymore
>>130195234kys
>>130195234The first time I actually sat down to listen to In The Aeroplane Over The Soilent, I couldn't believe my ears.I couldn't believe that for so many years, so much ink had been spilt in praise of such lowtest and boring tripe.It was baffling. I nary knew what more to think of the whole affair.It is truly unfathomable how this was ever allowed to become popular here, let alone enshrined as the paragon of music. It is a stain upon the legacy of the userbase of the board's yesteryears.The only silver-lining is that the pretense that this was ever something worthy of worship has finally essentially entirely dissipated, never to reform.
>>130196026Until recently, Grimes had only 2 truly stellar songs to her name. She is more famous for being a real life Manic Pixie Dreamgirl, like no one ever was.
>>130196167>The only silver-lining is that the pretense that this was ever something worthy of worship has finally essentially entirely dissipated, never to reform.Unfortunately not true. There's still people even in this thread saying you don't have a soul if you think these soi neckbeard anthems are anything less than perfection.
>>130196184Picrel is the greatest album of the 2010s.
>>130196200
>>130195811please ensure to convert shorts links to regular oneshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4LiYH9CslM
>>130196223Kyle Gordon is jewish and a pedophile.
>>130196223>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4LiYH9CslMwhere's the joke
>>130195733no you're just a newfag / tourist
>>130195625>>130195917(Indie) Folk Pop was never popular beyond its own time and scene.Nor does Folk Pop represent the entire Recession era indie scene, not even if you consider "Indie" a genre rather than business model.
>>130195370>- early 2020s rymwtf are you talking about/mu/ was flooded with rap by the late 2010sit turned me off the board for years
>>130196264your eceleb was not board culture
>>130196184Must’ve been the year of the manic pixie dream girl because Alice Glass, Hayley Williams, and Megan James were all born in 1988.
Imagine feeling threatened by white people playing music
>>130196585Who's threatened
>he thinks he's heard ITAOTS>he hasn't listened to it in 8kbpsdo you even lo-fi?https://youtu.be/OwLq7Q4J5tw?si=zK7F2cCpL46XLH4b
The contempt that new /mu/ has for the culture of old /mu/ makes me sad. Nobody here even likes music now, it's just shitposting and jacking off over mid pop stars. What happened to this place?
>>130197256I was there for "old /mu/", I have contempt for "old /mu/"The golden age was probably spent discussing power metal and anime osts exclusively
>>130197284Better than Olivia and Sabrina.
>>130197256It's not our fault you oldfags picked the most pretentious, unpleasant slop to champion, like Discipline : "talky talky talky, words with s this time... sloppy, sloppy, sloppy..." boo !
>>130197290Yes, but that's the golden age, not early 10s /mu/ which is where my contempt is directed
>>130197295Cry harder, bitch. Keep on listening to your shitty teenybopper pop music.
>>130197295Double talk!Double talk!*unfathomably hype solo*
>>130197316I don't listen to pop, although even Sabrina is less insufferable than that crap. Also, I'm not the one "crying" it is YOU >"the contempt *sniff sniff* makes me sad... nobody likes me WAAH !* Boohoo, with that stuck up attitude of yours, you got what you deserve.
>>130197342That's an interesting way of saying "I'm a massive fag who seethes that this board actually used to take joy in discovering new music and just wants to make it unusable for everyone else".
>>130197359Forcing pretentious wankery down every newcomer's throat, isn't what I'd call "discovering music", more like : establishing consensus by force, based on snobbery inherented from clueless "music critics".
>>130197370And you're trying to call me whiny? "No! No, don't make me listen to In the Aeroplane Over the Sea! Anything but that! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!" Nobody is forcing you to listen to shit, you don't have to go into those threads. You're just weak-willed and easily influenced.
>>130197408Go to rym reddit, that's the kind of place "old /mu/" was trying to emulate, any album not approved by the "higher ups" (music critics, fagtano etc...) and perceived as not "classic" or "artistic" enough, was looked down upon (see the absolute state of that sub, still malding about the fact Meteora got bolded on rym) even though many "classic" albums only got reevaluated later on, since critics are always ~20 years behind. The "culture of old /mu/" was just that : herd behavior, justified by snobbery.
>>130195234NMH cannot be tarred with "stomp clap hey" but they were (obliquely but nevertheless shamelessly) ripped off by arcade fire >>130195949 who are the root of it all. it's fascinating how that makes NMH ultimately responsible for a significant mainstream style that lasted for years and still lives on, which is even crazier to think about, in the execrably twee yet determined ukulele music in every other ad you see. one dude decided to raise his voice to a disarming desperate shout and it birthed an entire cultural sentiment.arcade fire still inspire nothing but resentment because they were so obviously a product of certain music journalists' desperation for something important. aeroplane didn't create a mania when it came out, it slowly gained attention over the next maybe 10 years. but people seized on arcade fire and raised them aloft, it was pathetic to watch. they basically became the house band on SNL because they were deemed so vital and authenticand mangum is a melodic genius, this is not to be quibbled with by some dumbass zoomers on /mu/
>>130197370yup
>>130197481That album sucks ass
>>130195234Nobody fucking asked for your opinion. It's a classic album. >millennial bullshitJeff Mangum was born in 1970.>you just had to be there maaaaaanI found this album in 2018 and it still hits me hard emotionally despite being nowhere near the age to hear it on release. >it's all about the... the feeling that the music evokes!It 100% is, You either get it or you don't.>Wow so old /mu/ used to be so much better huh when this and a bunch of pitchforkcore were being spammed?Yes it fucking was. Classic Indie albums are way fucking better than the pop music and waifu spam being turned up by a million.
>>130195370>- early 2020s rymget the fuck out of here. That's when all the Hyperpop shit starting creeping up. Same with Haunted Mound and a whole lot of other bullshit.
>>130197295holy fuck you insufferable faggot. Why are you here? Go to a different music community if you hate /mu/core.
>>130196026stop being so fucking autistic.>I have to assume every Millennial born prior to 1988 is a fucking piece of trashKendrick Lamar?Amy Lee?Bruno Mars?The Fall Of Troy members?Rome Streetz?Conductor Williams?fuck out of here dude
>>130197370
>>130197481I think you're completely right and that's kind of what I was trying to suggest with this post, that the album is pretty much ground zero for that bullshit millennial sounding lumineers/mumford and sons stuff. In seriousness I actually like the album and have known it since like 2014, I see why people loved it so much. But looking back on it now I think it's funny to associate it with stomp clap hey
>>130195234>>this used to be the face of old /mu/speaking of which we really need to get rid of this pic
>>130197481I'm admittedly a fan of Funeral and The Suburbs, so maybe I'm biased. But I don't really see Funeral as a ripoff of Aeroplane. I'm sure it was a big influence, but they have pretty different sounds and lyrical content.
not exactly sure why oldfags feel the need to acknowledge a revisionist zoomer meme that originated on twitter. or why in the endless discussion about this supposed genre nobody ever mentions https://youtu.be/sTfltKWgJfwwhich shits all over zoomer songwriting.
>>130198229fuck off
I just can't stand the overblown sentimentality and the fake-emotional-outpouring of ITAOTS. Its all so insincere and unconvincing.
>>130195234It's a good album.
it's not stomp clap hey but 90s indie was absolutely the forerunner of that and many other cancerous '10s trends
>>130195234>2011was 15 years ago.Old /mu/ was a completely different board than it is today. It was more of a shitpost hangout for people who were really into music, and I miss it dearly. The whole /mu/core was more of a moat to keep the /r/music crowd out.I think I was banned for cumulatively more than a year for posting dubs. It was a real war trying to keep the k-pop fags out of /mu/, and now 15 years later I still think it was a huge mistake to let them in.
>>130198618It took me so many listens before it clicked. I would never have listened to it more than once if people weren't incessantly posting it.How anyone can get this record on the first listen is a mystery to me (I guess I'm just a pleb), but I really can't think of a better album to force and I've listened to it so many times since.
>>130198818A thick cloud caught a piper cub's tailThe match struck blue on a railroad railThe old puff horse was just pullin' throughAnd a man wore a pegleg foreverI'm on the bum where the hobos runThe air breaks with filthy chatterOh I don't care there's no place there, don't think it mattersMy skin's blazin' through and my clothes in tattersAnd the railroad look like a "Y" up the hill of ladders
>>130198818Maybe I'm outing myself as a pleb, but this album is to me what people who don't understand what art is think art is.
>>130195234This album alone kept me from ever wanting to look at this board (2015-ish). That and Fantano. I was like “okay, so it’s a board full of obnoxious elitists with no taste or musical understanding and they all pretend to like the same garbage to look cool.” It took me 10 years to recover from the shock and only now am I willing to give it a chance here…
>>130196020Stomp clap hey must have its roots in NMH, because ITAOTSA gained a cult status in the late 90s early 00s, right before the first stomp-clappers began to emerge (eg Magnetic Zeros).It's always weird how these filiations work in music. You wouldn't expect that a grunge band like Nirvana was inspired by the 60s melodicity. Or that White Stripes took their shtick from Jon Spencer Blues Explosion and made it more Led Zeppy and grungy.NMH also probably got inspired by 16 Horsepower to go this old Americana way. 16HP remained an underground band, but NMH achieved cult status with a more accessible album that wasn't so downcast as their noir blues shit
>>130197256Exactly they have no new albums to replace old mu they just come here and shit on greats like NMH or MBV and then wither list nothing or go praise pop or electronic or obscure metal at best
>>130197295Lmao at now trying to act like Discipline isnt amazing
>>130197481Now this is true. Aeroplane did in fact spawn arcade fire
>>130198618Nothing fake about the sound of King of Carrot flowers. Everything in it is classic nostalgic child shit you experience in tragic homes
>>130199227To me it isn't in the slightest, I could name 10 better albums released this year alone, and I always say music is dead now...
>>130198887>no taste or musical understandingIronic you somehow think the old crowd was any less pretentious or less knowing than you. I cant describe the hundreds of albums I found because of this board
>>130199417You cant name 1 song this year superior to Indiscipline. If you dont see the albums genius you probably dont understand prog or how much heavier KC took it
>>130198982Never heard of NMH being inspired by 16HP before. Possible, but I wouldn't really describe them as americana though. I mean the obvious influence is 60s psychedelia/pop since that is what the Elephant 6 collective was all into. Jeff has an interest in traditional folk music. Probably an interest in a variety of other indie and punk artists too. Like I know they liked Tall Dwarfs and Minutemen.
>>130199457Discipline is a pain to slog through, grating, unmelodic, boring, so much so I need a distraction to finish the bloody thing. 4/10 wouldn't listen again.
Imagine how mentally unwell one must be, to listen to this : https://youtube.com/shorts/ITkiOKlHusU?si=O-l1zjoT15AYZWdC and think "what a wonderful song !". Discipline is the music equivalent of taping a banana to a wall, or shitting inside a can, then calling it "art"
>>130199443I’m just saying what my opinion was 10 years ago lol well I do agree I was a bit more pretentious back then. I’m curious to relisten to this album to see if I still feel the same about it. I even used to think ABBA was boring once upon a time…But either way it always rubs me wrong when people who aren’t musicians act all high and mighty about their taste in music, which again, was my impression of most people on this board. I really love a well thought out diss coming from people who know what they’re talking about, but I find the more well-versed a musician you are, the less it gives you joy to pick apart stuff you don’t like, and the more you can find something positive to say about things that aren’t necessarily your cup of tea. So yeah I still hate music critics and consider them to be wannabes that are salty they never made it as a musician, and the people who take critic’s words as gospel or permission to like something.
>>130199461Folk back in the 90s was seen as old boomer shit. That's why Johnny Cash found it hard to come back, he had to let Rick Rubin push him more towards an alt vibe with more minimalistic instrumentation and no country twang and violins.That's why I believe the folkish influence must have come from a younger act like 16HP who were seen as some bizzare spawn back in the 90s, because they somehow managed to turn this noir blues thing into something that had alt-music appeal and could be played on MTV's Alternative Nation show.I can't think of anyone notable doing folkish music back then except maybe Tom Waits who was the resident old-world troubadour
>>130195234Olay, but this was popular here in /mu/ starting well before stomp clap hey. And even when that style of music took off with bands like Mumford & Sons and the Lumineers, I don't remember people here making the connection en masse. We just though of ITAOTS as indie folk-rock.
>>130199695People venerating perceived taste in music listening over and above actually participating in it to such an insane degree was always the most cringe thing about /mu/ and I'm glad that's gone, even if the board is only as active as this
>>130199695Well I am a musician, 12 years of guitar, 14 of drums, some singing, and some piano, studied theory and spent an enormous amount of time thinking about the music I listen to from a deeper perspective and I can say whether its NMH, MBV, Beefheart, CaN, king Crimson, Microphones and plenty other (mostly pre 21st century) old mucore have legitimate value and deserve their praise. Built to Spill was another great that is slept on today
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>>130198229Fuck off.
>>130198870It's just fun.
>>130198229Seeing this picture, is like seeing an old government building still displaying the hammer and sickle in Russia, or seeing a floppy disk icon being used to represent "save"
I'd rather be pretentious than exclusively listen to r/music shit
>>130200125I'm listening again, almost finished as I write this.Pros: Raw feel Mediocre instrumentalists are a vibe.I like accordionsExtraneous samples that are at odds with the chords sometimes Cons: Composition/arrangements as a whole.Chords are boring. I've never liked 4 chord songs and I'm not gonna start now.Composition-wise the songs never are building towards anything, it's like a big bowl of plain oatmeal. From the first bite you already know how the rest of the bowl is going to taste. I have no comments on lyrics because nothing stands out about them to me positvely or negatively in a musical sense (how they fit with the melody for example). I can see how they could have an emotional connection to some people in a strictly literary sense, but not for me.All in all, for me it just sounds like the run of the mill amateur singer-songwriter stuff everyone sings at open mics, but with some fun production choices to distract you from the boring composition. The best moment of the entire album for me was the end of The King Of Carrot Flowers, Pt. 1, they stumbled on some nice harmony and I was hopeful for a moment the album was better than I remembered but then it wasn't. Power to the people who like it, but still seems like an odd choice to be the "poster child" album for a board of people who pride themselves on having heard it all. I'll go back to listening to the beach boys.
