How did this guy become so cringe? Watching his old videos he was a likeable, fun, politically moderate music critic. Now he seems deeply unpleasant, pearl clutching about Israel, pushing conspiracy theories, wearing disgusting fashion, giving worse takes on music. He's adopted a bunch of weird socially stunted childish mannerisms as well. How does someone deteriorate mentally like this?
>>130213092I blame reddit, rym, and twitter..if he would have just stuck with us he could have stayed based
how does someone over the age of 13 care about youtubers?
he was always lame as fuck
>>130213092everyone's spirit eventually gets washed and dies down, again he will continue being the fastest music content creator though, he says nothing of substance though his vids are only lyrical descriptions. But he is always the first one to drop videos thats why he is gathering all the attention still. He strikes when the "iron is hot". American Football LP4 came out, bam lyrical description of what he hard literally 5 hours after the album drops (he cant tell you shit about what key it is in or what chords are used or anything useful like Rick Beato)
>>130213164I don't think you need to know what key a song is in or what chords it uses unless you plan on making music yourself
>>130213177why not. yeah im interested in music theory its fun. Deeper analysis of why a song is good are good content. But that is not content Fantano can provide to us, he is not a musician. He been like what 40 years obessed with music but he never picked up a keyboard to learn properly? or his bass? It's laziness or simply he doesn't like music that much to begin with. The learner loves music more than the spectator.
>>130213092I agree, these "people" badmouthing Israel need to be dealt with.
>>130213213>he is not a musicianbro you can literally find videos of him on youtube playing the bass, not to mention all the videos of him playing the keyboard on his own channel. if you're going to shittalk someone, have your facts straight
>>130213237yeah bro get your fax straight bro
>>130213092>How did this guy become so cringe?looking back is to realize he was always cringe, the only reason why anyone liked him was because he was notable on youtube and he gave you attention at one point.
>>130213220tbqh its futile leftist retard attempts. Israel is going to win regardless they know it, we know it, everyone knows it. So I dont see why the obession with their downfall and resentment towards them. They are better than Islamic retards that chimp out over any minuscule shit and are worse and more conservative than anyone in humanity rn. But they dont want them to fall because??? They hate America and want to nuke it? Leftists are ridiculous.In their countries they hang you on a crane to make an example out of you just for being a faggot and liking dick a little too much.
>>130213164Beato's a gatekeeper, eff him.>>130213177It's sort of cool to get an idea of why you like to hear something, rather than settling for 'that's nice, I like that' sometimes. Plus it gets you into better crafted music.
>>130213327>It's sort of cool to get an idea of why you like to hear something, rather than settling for 'that's nice, I like that' sometimesIf you don't play music or write music you're probably not gonna care very much.>Plus it gets you into better crafted musicDoes it?
>>130213092I think there's two aspects to it. First of all, it's hard to be an influencer and not be influenced back by your fanbase. Second, I'm sure that he, like all reviewers, wanted to make it as an artist.All this to say, the guy has a need for validation and wants to feel like he's correct. He has a fanbase (weird for a critic. you don't see Christgau with a fanbase) that takes his opinion as gospel and sucks him off.Both of those combined make him feel like he's both right about everything and that he has to cater to his fans.
>>130213341>Does it?yes
Hasn't been the same since his black wife cucked him
>>130213092QRD
>>130213355Like what?
spbp, /thread
>>130213368knowing what is a sus chord, extended and agumented, etc got me more into classical, prog and jazz fusion.
>>130213424Ah well I was listening to classical and prog when I knew literally nothing about music theory except what a major and minor chord were lol
>>130213213I'm a theoryfag too but what value is his normie/non-musician audience supposed to extract from it? "The title track makes beautiful usage of a flat 6 major 7th chord" okay, and?>>130213293>In their countries they hang you on a crane to make an example out of you just for being a faggotAnd this is bad... how? Why do Americans feel entitled to make faggotry acceptable worldwide?
>>130213293At this point, Israel/MIGA shills are part of a money laundering scheme. What would be the point of saying all this nonsense on a virtually dead board? If you're not being paid for this, you're beyond retarded.
>>130213515The point is that it's hypocritical for leftists to support them
>>130213515this. reminds me of a conversation i had with my former best friendguy gets a full ride to berklee for guitar, joins a jazz band and all of a sudden ronald jenkees dropping bangers on youtube was not impressive, not enjoyable and not complex enough for him. whilst also simultaneously being the worst player in his band. i destroyed his entire argument just by saying "but if it sounds good why does that matter?"he never stopped seething.
>>130213529How is it hypocritical to be against conservative values and also think it's bad to kill thousands of civillians in a conservative country?
>>130213164>"he cant tell you shit about what key it is in or what chords are used"who gives a shittttttt
>>1302135561. It's a war. People die in a war. Far more people have died in Ukraine.2. Leftists aren't just speaking out against the war. Many of them are just straight up supporters of Hamas.
>>130213515>physical violence based on someone's sexuality is good actually>I am a civilized adult>>130213293Israel killed people to establish itself and when those people fought back israel killed their kids as response. this is not the good guy.
>>130213593What country didn't kill people to establish itself?
>>130213573absolutely no one supports Hamas's killings of children, you're a propagandized idiot.
>>130213602the good ones don't keep killing them for nearly a century and crying victimhood as they do so
>>130213092Kys
>>130213605https://www.jpost.com/american-politics/article-894643>half of US youth support Hamas over IsraelIf you don't support Hamas then why speak out specifically against Israel? Why not just stay neutral?
>>130213092he always sucked but pandered to the mu just crowd enough for morons like (you) to fall for it. then he stopped trying that when mu furthered its slide into irrevelance and you took off the blinders and realized he was dogshit
>>130213619God forbid a country defend itself and establish power. Do you know how America was founded? How we became a superpower?
>>130213092He was always cringe and the DSP of music, in other words, he was only ever successful from flooding the algorithm with his shitty videos before anyone else did. His reviews of music are roughly on the same intellectual level as Phil's reviews of fast food. >Very tangy, robust lyrics, It's a light 7. *snort* No, Snowkarl, I don't know anything about music theory. Tuhuh.
>>130213635>the DSP of music
>>130213625staying Neutral is the same as supporting the stronger side, dumbass."supporting Hamas over Israel" is not the same as "supporting Hamas" in a vacuum, that article is deliberetely misleading you. that "half of US youth" knows that Hamas is a response to something Israel started, not the other way around, so of course they support them OVER israel if forced to pick one of the two, but ideally both would stop killing kids and Palestinans wouldn't have Hamas ruining their global reputation anymore because Israel would pay them back for their stolen lives and land.saying "half of US youth supports Hamas over Israel" is like saying "half of people support robber with a knife over robber with a machine gun". ideally you would have neither.>>130213633yes, and I hate you for it too. not hard to comprehend.
>>130213529>hypocritical for leftistsmy man you seethe about jews controlling the world in one thread and then fellate the world's biggest jew enabler in another. you have ZERO ground to be calling others hypocritical lmao
>>130213280fantano is not a critic, he's below even the fella who would review "new CDs" in your local morning paper growing up, but if you have to give him credit for one thing it's that he was the first one in his field to realize that ~2010 /mu/ was 1) not at all like the 4chan of old media cautionary tales (nazi hackers with 9000 penises) and 2) an untapped source of music bros just sitting theresince the site allows you just to spam away anonymously he could go hog wild with the advertising, and i guess some /mu/ posters in turn felt validated by the occasional winks and nudges in his tweets and videos. i assume most of these people are now on reddit[one smart move: his early-ish videos had a neverending sketch bit at the start and always ended with a cliffhanger, so people would tune in for the next review even if it the record didn't interest them much]his rise also fortuitously coincided with p4k losing its edge (thus negating the need/desire to actually read their reviews), slowly switching lanes and eventually being bought up by fat cats, while he could style himself as an independent dude just keeping it real. a bit too real, perhaps (>>130213365)fantano was a goober who clearly wanted in on some hipster clout shit but, since he didn't come from the old music journalist tradition and had no real competition (and wasn't all about tearing shit down like the "angry reviewers"), he was never arch or douchey. he read the room and talked enthusiastically to his audience in a feeble, near-aphasic language they understood. his channel was a warm and inviting place, with its catchphrases, memeable house bands like swans and death grips, and generally playful atmosphereand great work ethic
>>130213695>I hate AmericaI'm glad you said it anon
>>130213177Okay, but why do we need a faggy balding YouTuber to summarize the lyrics when we can cut out the middleman and look them up on Genius ourselves? It's incredibly shallow when a so-called "expert" can't even explain why he likes or dislikes something and just makes a 3rd grade book report on the lyrics.
>>130213573The ratio of civillian to combatant deaths in the Israel-Palestine war is among the highest recorded in modern warfare. I have seen so many Israelis on social media braggadociously post satellite images of flattened cities and civillian casualty numbers.
>>130213731Almost like the Gaza Strip is incredibly urbanized or something
>>130213718i mean his only real competition would have been nardwuar, but even in that nardy does it in a very autistic and intimate way in comparison, and is never really criticizing the music or musicians rather than celebrating their success as a fan.even of those two i can't think of any other music youtube people who aren't just teachers of some sort.
>>130213740and how do you think it got that way?
>>130214005High birthrates mostly?
>>130213293Right-wingers younger than the boomers are also sick of Israel. They have had a absurd level of influence on our politics for decades and done nothing with it to benefit the average American no matter where they are on the political spectrum. No amount of hasbara changes this basic fact.
>>130213092He was never good
he still has some based takes, that clipse album was fire and lingua ignota is probably the best artist of the 21st century
>>130213092Fuck off Moshe
>>130214163>They have had a absurd level of influence on our politics for decadesYou know people say this but I have yet to see any actual proof that Israel controls America and not the other way around.
>>130214163>Right-wingers younger than the boomers are also sick of Israeli'll believe it when i see it. they say this but still suck trump's dick unconditionally. especially on this site where rightoids reflexively support israel because they're terrified of having anything in common with the left. i see 0 effort on the right to rein in what we're doing in israel.
>>130213092Fantano was always fake but back in the day he was pretending to be a /mu/ hipster rather than a brown 12 year old.
>>130214242What are "we doing in Israel" that's so bad?
>>130214261not even gonna bother reading the context, you should kill yourself, kike cocksucker
>>130214310>no answerGreat
>>130214242I can tell you haven't interacted with right wingers outside this website
It’s almost a certainty that what Israel has done meets the criteria for war crimes. Yeah, we committed war crimes too, especially after 9/11, but Israel and Palestine have been beefing longer than anyone here, our parents, and grandparents have been alive. Their hatred for each other is not something you can just understand by being empathetic. Given the chance, Palestine would absolutely genocide Israel, and Israel clearly wants to do the same. If you live in a civil society, you will never comprehend how much they froth at the mouth to kill each other. The only way to fix that with US military occupation, which would lead to the deaths of US soldiers. If countries sanctioned or cut off Israel, then we would just have even more blood on our hands because then Israel would have no reason not to go full holocaust mode. And the US is so full of zionists that Israel would still receive millions of dollars in funding from backchannel financing. Quite literally, there is nothing we can realistically do other than be angry, and that won’t change anything either. It just radicalizes people.
>>130213092>not musicCan you all go back to /pol/ please
>>130214215The Iran war alone is already enough to prove that it's Israel in control. We're getting nothing out of it other than higher gas prices. It's transparently only in Israel's interest and would not ne happening if they were the junior partner in the relationship.
>>130214585>We're getting nothing out of it other than higher gas prices.USA is getting oil u think the oil from Kharg Island is not being stored by the US? lol lmao even
>>130214585What is Israel getting from it if we're getting nothing?
>>130214634Israel has wanted the Iranian regime gone since its inception, because it's the largest and most well-equipped hostile government in the region and thwarts their plans for expansion. That's why they're upset that America didn't topple Islamic government.
>>130214668Do you think the Iranian regime aren't our enemies as well or what? And where exactly is Israel going to expand to? Gaza? Who fucking cares? They have literally dozens of other countries between them and Iran, with tens of millions of people. Where the fuck are they expanding to?
>>130214685>Do you think the Iranian regime aren't our enemies as well or what?Iran doesn't pose an active threat to the American homeland. They don't have missile capabilities to strike America. The only reason we're at odds with them is because of our support for Israel and its genocidal policies.>And where exactly is Israel going to expand to?Lebanon, Syria, Jordan,and parts of Egypt, Saudi and Iraq - it's called the Greater Israel Project. That's why they've invaded Lebanon and intentionally destabilized the governments in surrounding countries. They invade other countries under the pretense of securing their borders to protect civilians, move settlers in, claim that these settlers are now threatened by militants across the border, and repeat the process.
>>130214757If we only opposed countries that "posed an active threat to the American homeland" we would've never become a superpower. Both world wars. The Korean war. I think you'd agree that those were good wars for us, no?>the Greater Israel projectAnon do you have any idea how much inhuman effort that would take from Israel? They haven't even been able to take over the West Bank and Gaza in 70 years, and you think they're magically going to take over the entire Levant if Iran falls?
>>130213092I think he just got a different manager or something who told him to pivot towards appealing to zoomers.
>>130214390bud i grew up in the midwest in a small town. my family is full of brainless republicans that have fox news on in the background 24/7. going back to visit them is depressing. they don't give a fuck how much money trump gives to israel. i'd love to see any prominent right wingers criticizing trump on how he's handling israel but i'm almost 100% certain they don't exist in any capacity mostly because conceding that their side fucks up at times isn't a fun part of the game. fucker carlson is kinda doing it but that's only because he doesn't have his safe corporate job anymore and he has to do something to stay relevant.
>>130214891No I don't care how much we give to Israel because we're spending 500 times that amount on black welfare.>tucker CarlsonThe guy who flip flops on race every day and thinks he got mauled by a demon?
>>13021489190% of Israeli aid is spent on U.S. weapons. It's effectively just a subsidy for defense companies.
>>130213092FUCK FANTANO FT CHRIST DILLINGER
>>130214927>No I don't care how much we give to Israel because we're spending 500 times that amount on black welfare.would love to see a source for that but i know you don't have one.>>130214957and? does that somehow make it ok?
>>130215266Total U.S. welfare spending is over a trillion. 26% of recipients are black. So that's over 250 billion. We gave around 3 billion to Israel in 2025. So the real number is around a factor of 100, not 500. If you take into account the amount that comes back into the U.S. economy it's 1000 times.
>>130213718sounds like you are totally and completely on his dick
>>130213092The Fader article spooked him and he realized to maintain a living off what he was doing he had to become sanitized and woke.
>>130214310Ethered that kikesucker
>>130215405stay in school, anon
>>130213092this is is what happens to you mentally when you listen to music for too long.
>>130213164I don't care that Anthony and the other 4chan reviewer giver every k dot album 1000/10. I don't care that Anthony busts out a dictionary and breaks down other reviews to two extra digits like "a light 6.325 / 10." I don't care who he dates. I don't care that his sloppy bass efforts demonstrate why he reviews.His show was nice on the radio. It's otherwise nearly impossible to hear anything outside of top40. Anthony fell off when it shopped being about expanding music to the viewers, and then became pure meme rating, going on tour as Cal, selling out his MDE for political convenience, rebranding his logo to tumbler vector art, and otherwise using his platform to punch down or self agrandize. It's fucking pathetic.
>>130213092>politically moderateI know what you are. You, like Anthony, don't like music.
>>130216551Fantano talks more about politics than music nowadays
his take on Marty Supreme was shockingly bad
>>130213092He was always cringe , you were just cringe back then too.
>>130216566I implied that in my retort. /mu/ and Anthony are in lockstep with each other. Political obsessives using music as a way to speak about politics. They don't like music, they like using it as a means to an end.
I like you guys are pretending like art and politics don’t go together like peanut butter and bananas.
>>130213220>>130213293The MJ biopic is a success and Jesus is king :)
Leftism does weird stuff to peoplet. left-liberal who finds him insane; for some reason leftists and liberals are like light years apart despite on the surface them seeming identical to conservatives
>>130214261>What are "we doing in Israel" that's so bad?israel hasn't been taking sufficient caution to minimize civilian casualties in gaza and lebanonsimple as
>>130219261>left liberalWhy? The left is just insane now. All in on white replacement migration.
>>130219266Liberal just means centrist now. Left and right are both extremes. There’s no moderate right or moderate left.
>>130219278The "extreme" right is deporting illegal immigrants. The extreme left is importing the entirety of the third world into America. There's no "moderate" right or left because it's an untenable position. Moderate liberalism will inevitably lead to the bifurcation we see today.
>open YouTube>search needle drop/Fantano>click most recent video>pause video>go to comments>like every comment referencing Better Help>leaveIt doesn't pay but it's honest work
it’s important to remember when all the kvetching about fantano started… when he gave that faggy pop punk band DGD a bad score on instant gratification. >>130219311elon musk and peter thiel and all the indian billionaire CEO’s who suck their dicks off 24/7 (like Joe Rogan’s most recent guest) are pro H1B. everyone i just named has been balls deep in zion don’s admin.
>>130214891But Trump has given less money to Israel than Biden or Obama.
>>130213092He was rewarded by it bit by bit over time, and unrewarded or even punished for what you perceive as "basedness"
>>130213092>pearl clutching about Israel
>>130219278"Centrism" has always been leftists' version of taqiyya. "Liberalism" is communism going 99mph instead of 100 (and "conservatism" is communism going 98).
>>130217661Music and politics go together like oil and water. It's a terrible format for politics because there's no room for nuance, just sloganeering. Political music ages like milk unless its message is so vague and universal that it might as well not exist.At least with religion there's a sense of the sacred, a higher power, etc. that can move people to make beautiful art. Politics can only inspire people to make slop on the same level that Skillet or DC Talk do for religion.
>>130219848>pro H1BLegal immigration is down since 2024. Indian immigration included. There are GOP politicians pushing to end the H1B system. Are there any Democrats doing this?
He earned that vasectomy.
