Why is this board so freaking negative all the time? Like my momma once said, if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all.
>>130221298Bunch of failed musicians and virgins having pissing contests with each other daily. This board is the fucking worst.
>>130221298maybe another frog thread will fix it
>>130221331this guy gets it
>>130221331frog threads are what keep this site alive
A song for these trying timeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH0Qda32IKM
>>130221298fuck that you shit frog posterif YOU have stupid shit to say, post it a MAGATARD echochamber and fuck all of you
why do redditors get so mad when you post the funny frog
>>130221331This but unironically
>>130221585Maybe because it's a hate symbol?
>>130221298men with few friends are still stuck in that "annoy for attention" mentality because they never learned real social skills, and they make up most of this site's userbase. unfortunately, although these people usually hate themselves, they take a while to commit suicide (usually after they're middle-aged and alcoholic) and some never do because they go crazy and become religious zealots, so we're stuck with them and their negativity.
>>130224318maybe you're a faggot?
I unironically believe that people who are overly negative aren't genuinely into music. At its core music is about sharing and connection. There are of course exceptions to the rule with artists making stuff for themselves but the vast majority of artists create music with the intent to share and connect with others. Anyone who is overly negative is going against a base principle of the artform and thus confirming that they don't actually care about it as something beyond just themselves. They don't care about how music affects others, they don't care about the artists that create the music, all they care about is themselves. Do they enjoy listening to music? Sure, probably. But do they enjoy and care about what music actually means beyond that? Absolutely not. And of course they don't *have* to "care", but caring is the difference between someone who actually likes music and someone who just likes listening to music.Pic related is from some soundcloud comments and pretty much sums it up
>>130221331I love froggo
Bless y'all. I love y'all. Y'all are my underlings, peepin out what's hot n fresh
>>130221298Uhhh...FUCK THAT SHIT BITCHEAT A MOTHERFUCKING DICK
>>130224571They genuinely care about music but their platonic ideal is uncompromising. To them, any deviation from it is an affront to the art itself.
>>130224625>To them, any deviation from it is an affront to the art itself.Which means they don't genuinely care about music. Or I guess to be more accurate they care more about themselves than they do about music. Basically my point is that anyone who truly loves music eventually understands that being too negative doesn't benefit the art, or anyone else, so they reel in the negativity and focus more on what they personally enjoy. To have an uncompromising platonic ideal is to not understand music beyond what I kinda outlined above. If you genuinely do not understand how people connect to it in different ways or how it affects everyone differently etc. etc. then you genuinely do not care about music. You just care about yourself
>>130224693Interesting thesis, but what would you say about niche genres like Industrial, Power Electronics, Extreme Metal or anything else that employs dissonance and harsh sounds?
>>130224722What about them? I don't really see how anything I was rambling about has anything to do with genre. I was talking more about mindset. The mindset of the listener and how that affects the music community. Are they a positive to the community or do they just take and give nothing back? (not literally)
I like music but it’s not worth putting in the effort to discuss it here when any good threads/discussions get slid off the catalog by waifu/kpop/wpop spam
>>130224746Sometimes, genres reflect not only the artists but also their fanbases. All those genres that prominently feature atonality draw in very contentious fans who can be aptly described as at least somewhat antisocial and misanthropic. They like those genres because it makes them feel powerful and allows them to inflict pain upon the normies who consume happy pro-social music.
>>130224791I understand what you mean but I don't necessarily agree that it's true. At the very least it could be true in the sense that these types of fans do exist but in my opinion they are the types of fans that I described above. They care more about themselves than they do about the actual art. With that in mind I would say that just because these fans may exist does not necessarily mean that they *have* to exist. Does listening to or enjoying any of those genres require you to want to "feel powerful and inflict pain"? No, I would say that they do not. You can listen to music and enjoy the sounds without being that type of person. I don't think listening to a certain genre of music can ever be any (valid) excuse for being a net negative on the music community.
That’s a whole lot of words that don’t say anything
>>130224571If I don't like the music I'm going to be negative about it. It obviously doesn't mean that I don't like music as a whole since there are plenty of releases that I enjoy
>>130221298My momma said, if you don't have anything nice to say, come sit by me and we'll talk.
>>130225566Being negative is fine to some extent, we all have our own personal tastes. But there is a line you can cross. Basically I truly believe that if you genuinely love music, and I don't just mean listening to music but I mean everything it encompasses and stands for, then you will gravitate towards the positives and try to be less negative overall. Of course not everybody is going to like the same stuff but if you genuinely like music as a whole then you will understand that and you will factor it into your thinking before you go and start telling someone what they listen to is shit. You will understand that tastes differ and that the important part is that people are enjoying and connecting with something. If someone says they "understand" this but then continue to be overly negative then I'd argue they don't truly understand it. Because (in my opinion) if you do truly understand that then you will feel an obligation to not be as negative overall
>>130225738You do realize you are posting on one of the most negative websites in existence?
>>130225753So? I try not to engage in the negativity myself. My reasons for posting on this site don't have to do with the want to be negative. Obviously it can be fun to call stuff shit sometimes but I honestly don't do it on this board because I feel the obligation not to.
>>130225796Ok but you are crying about other people being negative and you really can’t control how people act. It’s nice to be optimistic but this isn’t a place for optimism
>>130225814I'm not crying about anything, I was just stating my opinions because that's sorta what the thread was about.>It’s nice to be optimistic but this isn’t a place for optimismThat's great but that's also just your opinion. I don't really think that this place is that bad.
>>130221298music hasn't been good in a while
>>130225738Why would I restrict my range of reactions only to the positive? I believe that there is such a thing as good/bad music and that some people just have a bad taste so they like bad music.
>>130221298No offense to a player, but yo, I DON'T PLAY. Nigga take offense, fuck it. Got to BE THAT WAY.
>>130221298At least theres no bbc spam
>>130225895>I believe that there is such a thing as good/bad music and that some people just have a bad taste so they like bad music.I agree except that additionally I understand the world doesn't revolve around me which trumps my own personal taste. I'm not so up my own ass that I can't look beyond myself and realize that everyone else probably feels the exact same way.
>>130225980Well and I think that you need to be a little more narcissistic. We live in a society and opinion is shaped by the aggregate of all of our voices. If you think that something is shit it's okay to say that it's shit even if it's not shit, you're still steering the vector to the right place
>>130226007I will do my best to never go out of my way to call something shit. Simple as.
>>130226029what if it has fart samples in it
>>130225959Not for lack of trying..
>>130226041I guess that would depend on whether they are there to actually be obnoxious or whether the artist was able to manipulate them in such a way that they were listenable. But something so obvious as fart samples I can't imagine being anything more than a joke
>>130221331I'M A ZOOMERI'M A DOOMERI'M A MIDNIGHT COOOOOMERI GET MY TENDIES ON THE RUNNNN....
>>1302212984cuck lost all of its comfyness. It's just a older and shittier version of Twitter (also hot fucking garbage) at this point.
>>130225895I’m old enough to have changed my opinions on songs so many times (songs I hated when I was younger, now I love) to not confuse my preferences with a judgement of quality. For example, really learning about and honing my sense of rhythm gave me a new appreciation for funk music which I previously hated. But at the same time I can listen to music a little more objectively and pinpoint which aspects I find to be above or below average. I admit there are still aspects of music I might not be as in-tune with as some others, which could potentially explain why some music lovers like things that I don’t. Like ambient music, or really hardcore stuff. What are they listening for?!? What quality makes one song in those genres stand out compared to another?? Beats me….
>>130230488>songs I hated when I was younger, now I lovepost the songs
