>>130229731
Why aliens dont fucking show themselves already? We will forget everything and go on with our lives within a week, I guarantee you that, I will literally have 0 significance.

>>130229731
I'M NOT LIKE YOU GUYS
SCARED OF BIG BLACK GUYS

>Tom gets abducted by eylmaos
>come to this thread
WHERE ARE YEWWW
AND I'M SO SAWREE

>>130229731
Sun Ra and Roky Erickson are also owed posthumous apologies

>>130229731
waiting for the sticky

>>130229731
did something actually happen or just the usual nothingburger """disclosure is coming""" stuff (not going to /pol/ to find out)

>>130229731
What a generational talent exposing those dimeless alien faggots. Gotta love the T-meister, baby. You just gotta!

Tom's a great songwriter and the blink albums from Dude Ranch to Neighborhoods, as well as Box Car Racer, are all great. However, it bums me out that he sullied it with his alien bullshit. Guy's a high school dropout and it shows.

>>130232224
TURN ON THE TV, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT CHANNEL

>>130232224
theyre already saying more will come out later and its going to be better so that should tell you enough.

>>130229731
>>>/x/

Glowie bastards

Tom Delonge admitted he created his ufo group to the stars academy to brainwash the youth into joining the military. His family is a huge military family and he was compromised to use his influence to enslave the youth into forever wars.

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>>130229731
The alien thing is a psyop, just to distract from something going on in the Iranian War or something. Whatever.

>>130235683
They're always saying that

>>130238350
To the Stars was literally just his production company and he used the UFO disclosure grift to get investment for it.

>>130229731
It's just not logical to think that aliens would be interacting with us. We have only been emitting detectable radio waves since the 1890s. Aliens would have to receive our signals and reach us at sublight speed which means any alien which could possibly be here would have to be like 30 light years away if we're being optimistic and assuming such a race would be capable of travel at even 50% lightspeed. There are 1-2 thousand stars within that range. So saying you believe aliens are here on earth interacting with us you make a lot of assumptions about how common intelligent life is in the universe considering there are millions of species on Earth and we are the only intelligent one.

>>130238911
If we're talking aliens it's pretty much all assumptions, you could just say they might have some tech that detects radio waves at huge distances, or even just something to detect life at huge distances
But yeah, no proof, no point

>>130238911
It's time to take the rare earth pill. Our form of life was the product of an absurdly unique and improbable confluence of factors.

>>130229731
I’ve always believed in you based Tom.

So he finally pops back up and fails to speak on the missing general. Unreal.

>>130238979
This "something that detect life at huge distances" has a name : biosignature, methane, oxygen etc... detected in the atmosphere, could prove the existence of life, the problem, is that even on earth, out of millions of species, only humans were capable of building rockets.
The other method is solar gravitational lens, that could image a planet over 20, or 50 light years away with such a high resolution that anything larger than a mile would be noticed, you could see : forests, cities, or artificial lights in the night, this is the best, along with signals, way to find intelligent life.
But as >>130238911 pointed out, distance is immense, to travel to alpha centaury a "super spacex Starship" would take ~70,000 years, ion thrusters/nuclear = hundreds, only solar sail and antimatter can reduce it to decades, and that's to the nearest at ~4.3 ly !.
Another thing : if there were a single intelligent civilization every ~10 ly, that would mean there would be millions across the Milky way !, we'd definitely have noticed that by now. Optimistic scenario : there is one 20 to 40 ly away, at that distance, radio signals weakens until it becomes "background", so its conceivable we wouldn't notice.
But the BIG question is : given that, even with 100 years future tech, we could only reach 0.1c (10% of light speed) or maybe somewhat faster than 0.2c (and at this point some sort of "energy shield" would be needed to protect the spaceship, since, at this speed, even dust acts like bombs) why would aliens travel 50+ years just to reach earth, yet make no contact ?, would be much better to just send probes beyond the moon, to monitor, record signals etc...

>>130239424
for sure man, you know a lot more than I do about this stuff. I was pretty much just saying that the aliens could have some tech way beyond what we have and detect us with it. Since it's all speculation anyway it seems weird to draw the line at the tech we know is possible

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>>130238911
That's working on the assumption that we're dealing with an intelligence strictly of our own nature, a civilization that evolved on a satellite orbiting a star. This might not be the case, but for argument's sake, say it is.

What's the first thing we did once we became sophisticated enough to leave the surface of our planet? We extended our senses. We put up artificial ears, and artificial eyes, eyes that could see in wavelengths that our own were never evolved to imbibe.

What would be our likely next few thousand moves if we progressed as a technological civilization? I imagine we would extend our sensual range as far as possible; Probes, maybe self-replicating, maybe traveling outward at relativistic speeds. Maybe there are sensate "webs" like this criss-crossing our light cone. It doesn't even need to send back information to some central hub, located perhaps millions of light years from the "source." Such a civilization would have long-since shed a common "clubhouse," it would be a handicap you eventually must defeat. Think of millions of independent nodes all from a central source, all waiting for one to trip the wire, then boom, the info goes... somewhere.

I'm not saying that's what is out there, I'm just saying that sounds like something we would do given the ability, given the time and circumstances to develop that ability.

>>130239474
But those are the pretty much the only means of detection possible : either through analyzing the atmosphere (which could reveal pollutants, and help identify the technological level) signals, which maybe they'd have a way of "rebuilding" the "background noise" back into a signal, or through observation, in any case, it doesn't affect the main question : even for far future post-humans, the travel to a planet just 20 ly away would take longer than that (20 years) to come back, another 20, why would any species waste 40 years to get to a place (even if it doesn't seem like it, due to relativistic speed) and not make contact ?.
As you yourself said "...aliens could have some tech way beyond what we have..." yes, absolutely, and that's exactly why, if they didn't want to make contact/let themselves be noticed, then there's no way in hell we would. They could turn invisible, "teleport", or do anything else, no NASA, no instruments, much less some singer from a band, would see them.

>>130239586
A civilization at this level would definitely not be "organic/natural" so 1) no "little green men", after hundreds of years, or at least decades (ufo goes back to early 20th century) how come they still need to enter earth ?, they have apparently already experimented on "abducted humans", they have tech far superior etc... there's no reason for that, and if they had build some big "web/factory" in the inner solar system we would have noticed, which means this ufo you talk about has been operating for who knows how many years, for what ?, watch humans grow ?

>>130239731
Well there's a ton of assumptions in there. I'll give you a network of probes would be artificial in every respect, but that doesn't mean we don't have also networks of colonies of OG beings. They've had plenty of time to move around, even at a crawl. Say they have few low hanging fruit and some kick-ass terraforming powers (possibly at the expense of artificial backs doing the heavy lifting.)

So maybe they crawl at a snail's pace, a few tens of thousand of years to this outpost, a few more to some ripe moon within reach. I'm working with time and unknown unknowns about the limits of capability as being a rather large canvas.

And this going by our understanding of thermodynamics, relativity, etc, admittedly incomplete. We really should keep assumptions low. Feels a bit like spitballing in 1750 what is in the pockets of a man in 2026.

>>130239780
Dude, you used flowery language, but ended up saying a bunch of nothing. "terraform" every place along the way, or adapt their bodies, you"re assuming they'd prioritize aesthetic over functionality, no reason a "logical civilization" would apply this at scale "a few tens of thousands of years for this, for that" how would they have the numbers to populate multiple planets ?, and why would they want too ?, a species that advanced to the point of creating alcubierre drives, wouldn't be going around creating "hotels" for thousands of years, that's just dumb.

>>130239938
Fine, the point is we box ourselves in with taking the state of our understanding and extrapolating out. When I hear people wax about what an advanced technological civi MUST look like, I think of two men at the turn of the 20th century debating about great steam engines in the sky.

>>130239992
The difference, is that at no point I mentioned "technology", you said "steam engines" point exactly where on my comment I talked about their technology being similar to ours ?.
Even if they could magically terraform a planet in a second, clone themselves a million times over, why would they do any of that, instead of moving beyond what is clearly a biology driven goals ?
Humans didn't colonize any other planets since the early 20th century, yet, we're already seeing : neuralink, artificial organs, robotic prosthetics, VR (architecture better alternative to going around building hotels)

at least, post the song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alUoE6tJP1w