>all of those 50s and 60s songs about teenage girls sung by men old enough to be their dads
>>130246234Its just a song dude
they were only about 22 themselves, they just looked that way back then
>>130246234its a testosterone thing. you wouldnt know
>With the exception of "Sh-Boom", there was nothing on 1954's charts to suggest any change was coming any time soon. The big hits were by Como, Kallen, Day, Stafford, Starr. Frank Sinatra was also enjoying a miraculous comeback. All these performers were older than 30, one over 40, and all had been active recording artists since before Pearl Harbor was attacked. There were also the under-30s--Page, Brewer, Clooney, Bennett, Fisher, Ray, Guy Mitchell, and so forth, but none of them deviated in any meaningful way from the syrupy Tin Pan Alley format. Any casual observer that year would have assumed the established pop music styles were here to stay.
>>130246234>WELL SHE WAS JUST SEVENTEEN >YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANI don't know what you mean, Paul...
>>130247499btw this won't happen again the way it did in the 50s there's nobody to ride in on a white horse and unhorse Olivia Rodrigo, etc. not this time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge9Ou3-YyqU
>>130246234dumb frog poster.nothing has changed.
>>130247556This is weird af
>>130251277It's dey (whites) cultcha
>>130246234its called happenis u clearly wouldnt understand u stupid faggit frog fagging board retard
>>130246243This anon is correct. Listen to Homecoming Queen by Hank Williams Jr. for example. On first listen it's about Hank being paid to sing at a high school graduation and falling in love with one of the young women graduating. You think he's a gross older man because Hank was mid 30s when it came out. But in the song he mentions it's 1972, making him only about 22 or 23 in the song.
>It's impossible to write for an audience or about an experience you personally aren't engaged withThis is why people think villains in movies are written to reflect the explicit view of the writer these days
>>130246234Holy reddit
>>130246234They were not wrong back then and they are not wrong now. It is (((society))) that has invented a way for them to be wrong.
>>130246234What's wrong with that tho?
>>130246234all the singers were like 22 retard.
>It was the age of the audacious amateur. In April 1957, a young Ohio man wrote to the editor of Billboard to say "Altho I have never acted or performed, I can safely say that I can sing about as good as Como, Crosby, and Boone, and act as good as John Wayne tho I am smaller than him and don't look like him. I have quite large shoulders and arm muscles and I believe with enough work a good thing can be made of it. Any suggestions would be appreciated.">Rock and roll meant that polish and technical sophistication seemed to be a thing for the older generation. Any youth with the right image and attitude seemed poised to "make it."
do you have the ick now, honey?maybe some vagisil will help
Zoomers shot through a giant cannon aimed at the sun
>The Payola scandal rocked the music industry in 1959-60, yet in truth it was nothing new and had been a thing even before radio broadcasting existed--pay-to-perform was being done in the vaudeville era and the top performers of the day such as Al Jolson and Mae West took their share of cuts from song pluggers. Once radio began in the 1920s bribery shifted mainly to paying DJs to play discs.>The real motive behind the investigations into Payola were actually of a more predictable kind--the usual war against rock-and-roll. The counsel for the House Subcommittee stated "Suppose John Smith owns a record company and then buys a broadcast station. Suppose he dumps its personnel and its good music format to push his own label generally only rock-and-roll. Now that's not in the public interest.">Carl Beiz of Brandeis University wrote "The Payola hearings would never have taken place if rock had been aesthetically pleasing to the popular music audience. The impetus behind the hearings was undeniably related to an assumption that rock was bad music, that it encouraged juvenile delinquency, and that it could only have been forced on the public by illegal business practices." Writing in The Nation, Paul Ackerman stated "Payola may be ethically deplorable but it is unlikely that it has ever changed or ever could change the course of popular American music."
>Despite disappearing from the airwaves, Alan Freed continued to be in the headlines. The 12/3/59 New York Post ran a story in which the head of Jubilee/Josie Records and of Cosnat Distributors claimed that he'd given Freed an $11,000 loan three years ago. Jerry Blaine stated that Freed had made payments of principal and interest during 1956 but he had returned the interest and turned the loan back to Roulette Records. At the same time, a steady stream of recording artists were seen coming and going from the New York DA's office including Bobby Darin, Eileen Rodgers, Les Paul and Mary Ford, all of whom were queried about their appearance on the Alan Freed Show on WNEW-TV, how they were paid, and whether they kickbacked the payment.>One of the results of the investigations was that radio stations increasingly shied away from playing rock-and-roll songs. This was explained in two ways. 1. while their programs were being scrutinized, DJs were curving material that had angered pressure groups, and 2. stations were sensitive to the charges that Payola was tied to rock-and-roll, even though song plugging had been done since the early years of the century, before radio was even a thing--in an editorial warning the probers and press against taking seriously allegations by washed up and unhappy singers whose best days were behind them, Billboard stated "The cancer of Payola cannot be pinned on rock-and-roll."
>Alan Freed ultimately escaped culpability in the Payola scandal, but his best days were behind him. He launched a daytime show on KDAY in Los Angeles and on May 20, 1960, he and six other individuals were arrested on commercial bribery charges. Freed was indicted for receiving $30,650 from record companies whose discs he'd plugged. Most tradesters felt it was a small percentage of what Dick Clark derived from the sale of all of his music business interests. Two years later, when he was spinning discs at WQAM in Miami, Freed pled guilty in part and got a suspended six month sentence and paid a $300 fine. His troubles continued. In 1964 he was charged with tax evasion for failing to pay $47,920 in income taxes during the late '50s, based on money he'd gotten from Payola payouts. Less than a year later, Freed passed away from uremic poisoning at age 43.>It seemed that what separated Alan Freed from Dick Clark was how American Bandstand earned $10 million a year in ad revenue against Freed's rather paltry $250,000. There was also his image, he was puritanical about playing black music discs and refusing to play white covers of them. Possibly because of Freed's outlaw image and disdain for the established record business, he did not and could not work within the system. In a sense he was a victim of the same prejudices and pressures that made rock-and-roll so controversial in the '50s. His rise and fall were symptomatic of the vigor and vitality of the new sound and the tensions of a generation. It was a matter of their sound and the older generation's resentment towards it.
>She's only seventeen (seventeen)>Daddy says she's too young, but she's old enough for meThose are actual lyrics from the hook of a rock song released in 1989. The song made the Billboard top 40
>>130254660>>130254655you better believe Pat Boone was Payola-ed to hell and back because no one in their right mind would spin a Pat Boone record without a substantial bribe. preferably a case of liquor to make paying his records slightly more bearable.
>>130246234https://www.bitchute.com/video/MWgiYZunfcN1
>>130246234>zoomers have been successfully mindbroken by roasties to think sexual attraction to women in their biological prime is the same thing as wanted to molest a toddler
>>130255275exactly"wanting to fuck anyone younger than me is a moral failing and makes you a monster" - hags
>>130247556
>As the format wars raged on, there was a move in 1958-59 to so-called Top 40 programming, a safe, predetermined playlist and one that aroused some controversy from station managers. It was generally understood that this meant "Top 40 Albums of the Month" since albums in the '50s were for adult audiences and hot sellers included a lot of movie and stage music with orchestral backing. Indisputably, technology had brought about a revolution over the decade thanks to the vinyl 45 single, smaller, cheaper to manufacture, and easier to ship than shellac 78 discs, and an explosion of regional record labels all of which helped break up the monopoly that Tin Pan Alley and Hollywood had over popular music.>It was no different across the pond where Merry Old England had her own share of frustrated adults decrying the racket teens were listening to. Bandleader Vic Lewis asserted in Melody Maker that "teen idols" were the creation of cynical, malicious song promoters who foisted unlistenable music on confused young people who had no established sense of taste yet. "How ridiculous it is when a cockney singing American folk songs in a fake accent can become a star. Are the stars of the future to be drawn exclusively from the three chord guitar bashers and bawlers of gibberish?" English teens, including two 15 year olds named Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, a 14 year old named Jimmy Page, and two 13 year olds named Eric Clapton and Pete Townshend, did not hear Vic Lewis's words. They heard the words of Chuck Berry and Carl Perkins instead.
>>13025469017 is legal in half the states
>>130258747idk about you guys, but to me Mantovani and Percy Faith albums aren't really something worth fighting for or demanding that radio stations play to the exclusion of anything else
>>130255275I knew this would happen like 15 years ago when they suddenly started using the p-word for people dating 17 year olds and aggressively attacking anyone who explained that was a specific term which meant attraction to pre-pubescent kids.
>>130258792those songs were talking about like 12 or 13 year olds lol.
>>130246234hoes mad
>>130258792It's actually 16 in more than half the states
>>130258792Just because something is legal doesn't mean it's not creepy
>>130258747it happened again in the 70s and later with Clear Channel playlists. the industry has done this for a long long time.
>>130263312npc moment
>>130251277Why?
>>130246234>it's creepy that the male of the species is attracted to the female of the species at her most fertile
>>130269827the men who go on about "female nature" all day will post shit like this without ever pausing to self reflect
>>130269869nu-male moment
>>130269869>the men who go on about "female nature" all day will post shit like this without ever pausing to self reflectyas kween preach
>>130269879>>130269891>imageMen that are attracted to children are likely to look like that. Did you enjoy Pragmata?
>>130269934>childrenliterally can't help yourself, can you, numale faggot?
>>130246234What tiktok video taught you that?
>>130270069Is 13 not a child to you, pedophile freak?
>>130270092yeah 13 is, 16 is fuckable however
>As Frank Sinatra's star sunk in the early '50s, his place was being taken as a teen idol by new, young stars in the form of Eddie Fisher, Guy Mitchell, and Johnnie Ray, who now had the legions of screaming girls who had once swooned for The Swooner. Fisher, who was born in Philadelphia in 1928, one of several children of a Jewish immigrant fruit vendor, had become a local singing sensation as a teenager and Eddie Cantor found him performing at a hotel in the Catskills in 1949. This led to Fisher being signed by RCA the following year.>Fisher was one of the young pop sensations of the first half of the '50s, the pre-rock, post-crooning era when the dominant style was belting--the intimate crooner sound had given way to raucous singers like Fisher, Mitchell, Ray, and Eckstine on the male side, and Clooney, Brewer, and Starr on the female side. He was handsome and appeared to be the ultimate Jewish boy makes good, fawned over by Gentile girls. Fisher had his greatest hit in 1954 with "Oh Mein Papa.">Like all of his peers, Eddie Fisher was quickly blasted from the charts by the rise of Elvis Presley, and he had no more top 20 appearances after 1956. The belter generation had done their job of serving as a transitional phase between crooners and rockers.
>>130247556bruh
>>130270628>He was handsome and appeared to be the ultimate Jewish boy makes good, fawned over by Gentile girlsif only he'd also thought to use a condom. sadly he didn't.
>A year older than Fisher, Johnnie Ray was a "hick" from Oregon. He experienced partial hearing loss from a childhood accident. Ray's exposure to music as a child was mainly country records and church hymns and he knew nothing of black music or anything of the sort, nor did Oregon have any blacks living in it, but when he was a teenager his sister bought a record of Billie Holiday's "Lover Man" which he credited with being a revelation to him.>Ray eventually met Holiday while performing in the Flame Show Bar in Portland and noticed her in the audience. She seemed to have been mutually impressed by the youngster, for as Ray recalled, "She asked me over to her table where I promptly got an invitation to come back to her hotel after her last show to have a drink. And that began a friendship.">His initial recordings on Columbia's sub-label Okeh were white R&B until Mitch Miller got him and had him cut "Cry" and "The Little White Cloud That Cried." Ray moved to the main label in 1952. His emotional style was hugely popular with the girls, even driving Sinatra to near-suicide after watching a performance of his on TV. Like Fisher, Ray found that fame was fleeting and his chart relevance also ended in the late '50s.
>>130270857>She seemed to have been mutually impressed by the youngster, for as Ray recalled, "She asked me over to her table where I promptly got an invitation to come back to her hotel after her last show to have a drink. And that began a friendship."oh god, they fucked. no, no, no!
>>130246234I like the song that goes>oh little girl>you better put on some make up>because I can fuck all the ladies I want>but if you don't want to fuck me>I'm gonna beat the shit out of youor something. It's from the 50s.
>>130246234I'll never stop being attracted to sexy teens, even if I'm old enough to be their grandfather
>>13024623480s had satanic panic2020s has age gap panic
>>130246234holy shit you zoomers are cringe af. this is how it was for literally all of human history until like 5-10 years ago
>>130274353>what could he have in common!What do a 30 year old man and a 30 year old woman have in common? Do they watch the same films? Listen to the same music? Like the same sports? Why do men and women need to have something in common other than a mutual attraction to get together?
>>130261626It wasn't nearly that bad in 2011. There were still girls like 16 and 17 taking dudes out of high school to the prom around that time in my school.
>>130273946Damn, the 45 year old dudes are into hags I see.
>>130274767he said he knew it would happen, not that it was happening, esl bro
>>130273946>20if that survey had been anonymous that age would be a little lower
>>130275224It would have been around 16, which is typically when females finish puberty
