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Why did symphonic music die after World War Two?
Classical music peaked in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries and had some spillover into the early twentieth century.
Since The middle of the twentieth century there has been almost nothing of note.
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Jews and the fall of the USSR where the last decent composers were (also the fault of jews because capitalism is jewish)
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People died...
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>>130283865
because modern classical music became self-referentially academic, for which the symphony is an outdated form and the orchestra an unnecessarily large ensemble
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let me guess
development in electronics.
big team wasn't needed to fill enough sound in concert hall. facilitated democratization of music. smaller bands got a chance over the big bands to sell their music.
expansion of broadcasting that brought music to the homes. big orchestras are expensive due to salary etc. people could afford to pay less for entertainment.
people were looking after fresh sound. this happens constantly. new era required new sounds.
also old classics were more easy listening compared to the new classical composition.
music for masses became simpler. entertainment dancing ...
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I put things randomly. but it can be structured.
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>>130289292
>development in electronics.
>big team wasn't needed to fill enough sound in concert hall.
This is a huge part of the change. Would you rather spend your adolescence learning how to play violin at a high level, only to end up a faceless member of an orchestra and not have cute girls play with your penis? Or learn guitar, be one of four guys up on stage, and have cute girls play with your penis?
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>>130289643
Then why was the most successful guitar music so braindead compared to the most successful classical music?
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>>130289643
Oh yeah, or you could learn to compose, not be on stage at all, and again not have cute girls play with your penis. I'm guessing Jimmy Page had more cute girls playing with his penis than Michael Tippet did.
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Most classical music was written to be performed as a part of opera/operetta or ballet - which as art forms died out (depending on whether you count musicals as successors - but see my later points about Jazz). Arguably film and TV scores have claim to succeed them there.

Additionally anxiety in America about accepting Black influences to create a authentic American Tradition (rather than dick riding 19th century Europeans) meant that when Jazz did finally receive academic study and recognition it was as a new thing, rather than something that could be folded in... So classical got whatever was left over after that.

Which then meant musical theater, which would have been the successor to operetta had to be it's own thing due to contemporary music in musicals being jazz.
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>>130290008
>Most classical music was written to be performed as a part of opera/operetta or ballet
This is just... factually untrue?
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>>130287121
Communism is Jewish as well and capitalism is just something the communists made up to make it seem like their idea was a solution to another theory
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>>130289654
>most successful
Classical music is just different, for whatever reason, in that regard. There are lots of hidden gem composers with multiple masterpieces but the ones who had the highest combination of quality × quantity are in the entry-level list of great composers
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>>130287121
explain why capitalism is jewish please?
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>>130289654
This implies most academics are getting their penises touched, which has never EVER been the case. You just don't get music, dude. Stop thinking, start whipping your cock out.
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>>130290045
>This is just... factually untrue?
Sorry, I don't really know what I'm talking about.
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>>130283865
If you mean music writing, Shostakovich and Britten were still composing in the 70s and they're firmly in the canon. That said they were the last, I can't think of anyone of "that" calibre in the 80s and on.

If you mean concert-going consumption of symphonic music, I imagine it was still going strong up to the 90s.
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>>130290008
Jazz could never be "folded in" to the classical tradition. It's something completely different to classical.
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>>130283865
>Why did symphonic music die after World War Two?
because countries were pushing it which only pushed teens into liking jazz, then these countries demonized jazz and people simply used jazz as rebellion against the authorative state, jazz has to be played in hidden clubs of course.
the big band assemble and clubs simply killed the orquestral assemble and theater
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>>130290119
Obviously /pol/groids are retarded goycattle



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