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>instanuked
it's over
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boompala
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the asiansoul himself perfected the ballad 30 years ago why would any groups need to try and inevitably fail to top it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQeR7ih_Ib8
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dont like that deleter is using out girls for his shenanigans now
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>>130313126
Cute Rita
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i love dayeon
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nsaars unironically defending payola when they shit on other companies for it nonstop

so funny
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s1
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>>130313140
what girls?
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>>130313125
sorry
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lowkey lmaoo
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>>130313144
>defending payola
it was Youtube ad buys
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>>130313142
>>130313146
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>>130313115
do you have a fixed date for when they started then? spotify deleting bot streams at the beginning of the month definitely wasn't a thing a few years ago it's a recent-ish thing
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jihyo does really like amwf couples for some reason...
https://youtu.be/ckzlmeCRI8Y?si=Q7J_8v1U61T-ySqD
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>>130313162
so... payola
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>>130313162
youtube ads is payola
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>twitter post
>translated from arabic
>lowkey lmao
if i speak
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>>130312927
some must be licensed and some just dgaf until they get a cease and desist or something
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thoughts on wonhee?
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>>130313167
theres no way you cucks will really start with this shit again only for her to show up another k-bf at the end of the day
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>>130313157
these are kot eyes
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>>130313168
>>130313172
no, payola is when the label makes payments to radio/TV channels to play and promote their music, without disclosing it's an ad
a Youtube ad is just an ad, straight up
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>>130313168
>>130313172
Youtube ads are not payola, since they are transparent that it is sponsored content.
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>>130313126
thais are so fucking hot
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>>130313182
>>130313183
are you just pretending or are nmixxicans this fucking stupid
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>>130313183
they dont even know what payola is LMAO
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>>130313157
would be funny, but not her. they take their masks off later
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kotblin :/
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>>130313182
>>130313183
why are you trying to reason with divegllitpawmpionamy?
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>>130313182
back in the day payola was only radioplay but the common usage now encompasses all types of paid promotion like youtube ads and playlisting and stuff

>>130313183
it's not transparent when it comes to the mv view counts, we had to use a third party site to figure that out
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>>130313192
autists have trouble with nuance
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>>130313196
pawmpawmbros we dont claim that guy
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>PAYING for ads is not PAYola because... it's just not okay!
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>>130313178
she’s very sexy these days
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>>130313174
uggy bogtoof
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not a good look for mys :\
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>>130313157
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I'm actually a jigumi
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>"why are mys still melting a-"
>sees charts
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>130313199
that website was akin to the 'restore dislike counter' extension lmao just some guy's estimate of how many views were not 'organic'
yes we know those views are inflated because of paid ads but there's no way of knowing how many
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divegllitpawmpionamywizonenswertokkiorbitarmyoncecoer posters are the worst
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>>130313192
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payola
>Payola, in the music industry, is the illegal practice of paying a commercial radio station to play a song without the station disclosing the payment.
>without disclosing the payment

>>130313199
you're just describing Marketing. Payola has an actual meaning, it's not just a meme word
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my wife
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Mama
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why cant mys take the L gracefully like we dives, pionad and tokkis did?
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>>130313210
fake yenabro we don't go around starting fights like that
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>>130313218
>that website was akin to the 'restore dislike counter' extension lmao
no it wasn't
all it did was subtract the raw number on the youtube site from the number reported by youtube charts

i explained this like a hundred times

the like/view ratio thing is just a secondary metric i don't take very seriously
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>>130313144
they bought ads and albums and everything else but its okay when they do it ofc yeah
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What makes NewJeans' catalog unusual is how concentrated the acclaim is. In a relatively small number of songs, they produced an extremely high hit rate:

- Attention
- Hype Boy
- Ditto
- OMG
- Super Shy
- ETA
- Cool With You
- Supernatural
- How Sweet

A lot of legendary K-pop acts have larger catalogs, but also more uneven eras, trend-chasing phases, or filler b-sides. NewJeans avoided that almost entirely during their active peak.

NewJeans' discography is defined by these qualities:

- efficiency (no wasted songs)
- modern production quality
- cohesion
- immediate timelessness
- batting average over volume

A group trying to dethrone them would probably need ALL of the following:

1. A flawless 3–5 year run
- Not just hits — songs that remain loved after the hype cycle ends.

2. A distinct sonic identity
- NewJeans immediately sounded recognizable. The next "GOAT discography" candidate would need a similarly unmistakable musical fingerprint instead of trend-hopping.

3. Cross-generational appeal
- Songs that both hardcore K-pop fans and non-fans keep replaying years later.

4. Minimal decline phase
- Most groups eventually release weaker material. Maintaining quality over time is what separates "great run" from "greatest ever."

5. Influence
- Future groups would need to imitate them the way many post-2022 groups borrowed from NewJeans' softer Y2K minimalism, conversational vocals, and understated production style.

The hardest thing to replicate may actually be their sense of effortlessness. A lot of K-pop discographies feel engineered around comebacks. NewJeans' music often felt like songs people naturally wanted to live with outside the idol ecosystem, which is rare.
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post her butt
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massaging chimp's neck
she gives me a kiss as thanks
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>>130313126
butterface
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>>130313230
massive hybeshillnho meltdown incoming
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>>130313220
what you're doing right now is arguing semantics
and that's never fun
words have meaning and connotations, words are used in different ways
i dont really care what you call it the point is they paid for ads
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>>130313225
yea we do now that we're top 6 on melon
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>>130313232
calm down shiro
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>>130313224
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>>130313226
okay i didnt know about yt reporting their own numbers i'll give you that
still dont think paid advertisement is anywhere near some kind of fraud or deception tho
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>>130313222
irohy :)
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>>130313143
yeah
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wonhee sexee
minju cumju
iroha eroha
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Jennie got caught editing her face lol

look at the mirror
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blackjacks embarrassing themselves yet again, feels good being a sonechad
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>>130313248
3 bogged freaks
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>>130313240
>gets rid of her baby punk rock image/sound
>top 6 on melon
fuck this gay earth
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>>130313250
yea you've told us this seven times
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>>130313239
>arguing semantics
I'm really not, you're being retarded and you're using the word wrong.
I'm not even saying they didn't engage in actual payola (everyone does, including Nmixx). I'm just saying Youtube ads are not payola, they're just marketing
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>>130313263
swim smooch
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>>130313219
>no midzy nor engene
of course
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>>130313230
they also didn't last long enough to start flopping or have bad songs
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>>130313178
i was totally on e recently but since that univ fancam dropped im back as a wonhybro again
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>>130313230
mired by payola
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>>130313258
sad isn't it

wish we got more songs like hate rodrigo that was a great song

catch catch is pure tiktokbait that song has NOTHING going on except for a catchy hook. and you bet her agency will pump out tiktok songs for years to come now
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newjeans cb success will all depend on minju's butt size/thickness
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>>130313239
>i dont really care what you call it the point is they paid for ads
where do you get ads for free?
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now imagine all these recent illit cams but they didnt lose weight
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>>130313248
moka machiavelli
yunah carl gustav jung
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is that leez singing all the time in scream, i never really noticed how many background harmonies were in dc songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S13WwupaCE8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rkudTWOmRA
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LOVE
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>>130313277
what if kotti also has a cake now
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>>130313270
i went to minju for 2 days. now i'm back to wonhee again
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>>130313224
cucks get off with that shit
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>>130313264
>i'm not arguing semantics
>you're using the word wrong
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>>130313277
when did minju join nj?
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losing weight is all good as long as her butt/boobas grew bigger
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>>130313277
y'all even forgot her name
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>>130313277
minjuggo would ruin the aesthetic with her goblin face
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izone cb success will all depend on minju's butt size/thickness
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h1-key has so many bangers, i’ll be fapping to yel and just end up vibing
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>>130313199
MV view counts are inconsequential. You don't get money out of it, the most you get is fandom bragging.

Youtube ads are really just ads
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>>130313268
they could've had twice as many comebacks if they had just split their songs up and padded them with cheap throwaway b-sides like kpops normally do

debut: attention

1st comeback: hype boy

2nd: cookie

3rd: ditto

4th: omg

5th: super shy

6th: eta
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>>130313298
her nose will end up like eunbi
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The avg 4ch dweller, specially if he’s American, Brit or Israeli, is really dumb but I’m surprised at how many of you have no idea of what payola is. It’s not payola when there’s a disclosure.
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>>130313304
hwiseo high notes >>>
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>>130313304
is this a paid ad to get me to listen to hi key?
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>>130313291
fair, it's semantics
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>>130313275
i was already content with last year's comeback (probably my top 2 fav ep of 2025) thinking that would be it for her under y*ehua do you think she will keep going?
and dont get me wrong she has my favorite voice in all of kpop rn and im happy for the success just not interested in stuff like that
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>>130313302
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>>130313291
NTA. You are conflating something that is done in a stealthy manner and something that is legit
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Hanni that Viet-rump shaker better sport a skirt so short it reveals her dripping snatch.
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>>130313268
>>130313268
>they also didn't last long enough to start flopping or have bad songs
yeah let's just forget all of year 2024
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Kpop needs more Eunbi and Arin.
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kpop companies profit from album sales and concert revenues
views and charts ain't shit
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>>130313321
they didnt flop divesis
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>>130313289
minju's arms really slimmed down this comeback :/
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>>130313305
you'd think so but a lot of companies seem to really prioritize ad views so there must be some reason

I think it also gives them better numbers to promote themselves to beauty companies and advertisement contracts. "look at how many views we pull we are very popular" stuff like that
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>>130313321
their 2024 songs are great. and you're crazy if you call them flops
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>>130313325
dives aint gonna like this truth nuke...
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dreadful hours
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pretty sure 90% of revennue comes from concerts
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yejibros these grocery prices are too damn high
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newjeans' run is made less impressive by Blackpink's run (with worse music) immediately before it imo
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>>130313325
the only reason charts are even somewhat valid as a metric is that they lose credibility if they dont crack down on artists trying to game the system (sperm's bundle fiasco comes to mind) but yeah its just bragging rights as someone else said
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dont objekts make up most of a groups revenue?
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>>130313335
album sales wise ive is the best selling group though
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>>130313330
that was objectively their weakest period by a large margin and the numbers show it
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>>130313341
and the girls escorting
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current status
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>>130313309
nah. the one thing i was most worried about was if the girls would botch up their faces like most kpops eventually do, but thankfully they didn't.
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i wish there was a chart that cannot be rigged but sadly they are all fake and gay
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>>130313329
It is not. People who work in advertising know about advertising. There is no fakery about it.
Ads are just ads.
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>>130313352
yea
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>>130313348
>fake sales
>cant even sell out 500 capacity high school auditoriums
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>>130313325
lullets wont be happy hearing this…
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>>130313351
you said the thing congrats you did what you're supposed to as a good NPC
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Newjeans run is made more impressive by that Viet slampig's sopping-wet poonanny.
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>>130313355
minji legit de aged, makeup is not good me thinks
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>>130313325
and ads/endorsements for other products
i guess views or plays are some kind of approximation of how many eyes are on the group for advertisers too
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>>130313351
only true for nugus and fashion show goers
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album sales don't mean shit when you're buying 80% of your own product
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>>130313360
they just overestimated their popularity in north america especially when the public is feeling the squeeze financially
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>>130313350
fine but calling it a flop is still insane
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>>130313362
it’s a tough pill to swallow but it’s true
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>>130313352
my favorite thing about ningning is that she's funny
something about her demeanor and her voice and her accent makes me crack up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=246WqI3hTQk
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>>130313363
this desu
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>>130313374
white people dont care about IVE is all.
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no one knows who ive is outside of korea
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>>130313379
VERY good you are following the program to a T
perfect
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>>130313363
this and frequently old jap visits
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>>130313358
if it was just for exposure i dont think youtube ads is the best value money-wise but im not a kpop advertising employee what do i know
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>>130313351
how would one obtain this service? out of curiosity
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>>130313364
minji was never good with doing her own makeup, and you can tell she did her own makeup for the pictures because she MAY OR MAY NOT be with hybe
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>>130313384
im from moldova and ive heard of them tho
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if you guys think a nwjns comeback 100% under hybe's control is going to be anything other than complete dogshit i don't even know what to say
have you seen their outputs across all their labels this year?
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you can't just assume that every idol who goes to a fashion event gets plapped in a hotel all night by some sleazy ceo and his sleazy rich friends?
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>>130313384
localspa...
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calling people NPCs is the most boring thing to post
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>>130313382
i do
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>>130313382
>north america
>white people
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>>130313177
https://vocaroo.com/14AhlG70sKns
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In 2024 it took aespa three great singles in a row to only barely beat newjeans who released two admittedly snoozer albums
just shows the power scaling even at their worst they were powerful
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>>130313401
im actually crying this is just so perfect
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yejibros the pubs were terrible not one azn girl out there tonight brothers
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>>130313396
the difference is that newjeans has 10/10 visuals while the other hybe groups are bogged uggos.
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>>130313399
it's a connection venture
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcv-Gt2Hs5o
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>>130313396
everything newjeans has ever done has been completely under hybe's control
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>>130313408
brother there's literally no asians at all where we live very sad but true brother
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>>130313401
its up there with chuds, roasties and pedos
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>>130313352
ahhh ahhhh
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>>130313412
remove seowon
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>>130313396
newjeans was hybe's moneymaker when bts was on hiatus, i doubt they would make them flop when the rest of their ggs are flopping as well
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>>130313405
if you're going to nut on vocaroo take a video instead
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>>130313422
careful, you're gonna upset him with the truth
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that's why they seethe at newjeans
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>>130313423
that's sad brother come stay with us for a holiday and we can be yejibro wingmen and try and pull azn girls brother
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>>130313429
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>>130313428
very pretty
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>>130313422
i mean that their original creative staff is all gone and i have no faith in whatever replacement they find
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>>130313422
mhj's*
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>>130313401
we call them unensouled now
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dont be like nmixx
was able to sell 1m+ albums per year but is stuck doing theater hall concert venues
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just boompala
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>>130313428
this is someone's actual daughter. she has a biological father that loves her. you just posted a picture of her.
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>>130313440
ugly kid
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>>130313223
OOGIE MARRY ME
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>>130313448
pits
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>>130313414
wony's smile looks sad and defeated
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>>130313447
but... they outcharted aespa...
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speaking of newjeans' creative team
i feel like krystal's song by bana got completely overlooked, it's really good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZB388Iy7hs
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newjeans concept is WESTERN and ANTI KPOP
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>>130313447
lmao couldn't be more obvious self buys could it
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nu-newjeans could release a literal 10/10 banger and there would still be people hating it's inevitable

too much animosity against hybe built-up both by fans of newjeans and non-hybe company stans
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>>130313447
changing tactics after getting btfo now are we?
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>>130313428
saving this as >rich cutie bitch

i don't follow nugus
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>>130313376
it's all relative, they still did better than most groups, but the drop from their peak was huge and there has to be some name for it
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>>130313450
wtf
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i really hope leesol hid her erotic lesbian comics well, we can't have kya stumbling upon those at their dorms
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>>130313450
girls planet 2 has a lot to live up to
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>>130313464
for these trolls the goal is just to make people mad
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njz' best song is 30 seconds long
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>>130313422
what about the aliexpress tier tshirts they tried to sell under the "njz" rebranding
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>>130313477
cookie isnt 30 seconds long
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We eant what Rado has
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>release a literal 10/10 banger and there would still be people hating it's inevitable
every illit comeback...
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>>130313459
i literally thought this before finally giving them a listen in 2024 right before the shit hit the fan and i completely changed my mind
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>>130313477
their best song is a Coke ad
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tinamen refrain from getting into these shitty NPC debates
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>>130313485
holy those soles
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>>130313384
i was at studio 54 for a night out with the girls and I saw two different people with IVE face tattoos. How many face tattoos of snsd have you seen?
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>>130313458
i remember a friend shilling this to me but i completely forgot it existed lol
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>>130313447
i see why he stopped spamming the sales after the first few hours
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her butt is my priority
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>>130313484
i miss the njz brand of "uuuh actually the song isnt lewd ita about blah blah bullshit" gaslighting, mainly for the cope that came from it
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>>130313458
to stay in the mood, jo suyeon's solo single on a cloud instrumental is beautiful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuabZ3YmjKw
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>>130313485
no way this their wedding photoshoot LMAO
i wonder if they got together when apink was doing stuff with s.tiger or if it was after i'm so sick with bep taking the reins
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>>130313501
same
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>>130313458
lol @ the stunned kpoppies in the comments whining about the 0 promo
sooner or later they'll have to accept bana is an indie label that doesnt give a shit about numbers
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>>130313502
you're one of the weirdest shitty little guys in here
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newjeans' last song was a coke ad
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>2023
>please don't post their charts, post their sales instead
>2026
>please don't post their sales, post their charts instead
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>>130313510
who cares about youtube comments
weirdo
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>>130313503
yoooo is that the math girl from wekimeki?
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>>130313497
hi sis you got any straight girlfriends who are into fat white guys
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>>130313507
Its cute to me desu
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>>130313515
umm no it was pitstop
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>>130313519
sorry
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>>130313520
yes absolutely she is
lovely song
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I love when idols make cute little noises
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>>130313516
the payola focus swap is pretty funny
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>>130313513
lmao i dont know what this means or who you think i am but heres a (You) for your troubles
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>>130313528
dohee is great at that
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>>130313502
>i miss the njz brand of "uuuh actually the song isnt lewd ita about blah blah bullshit" gaslighting
you seem to be confusing them telling the crybaby roastie retards to suck a dick as gaslighting.
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>>130313507
rado groomed her 100%
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>>130313493
i just noticed that she eats with her mouth closed and doesn't slurp like all asians. now i love her even more
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>>130313528
kot moans streamable...
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>>130313447
Can't it be that they just haven't shipped their presales?
Babymonster sold over 700k on the first week, but the official numbers are much lower (I think about 450k) since they didn't ship tons of orders yet.
I bought mine in 2 batches and only one of them was shipped and have seen many people saying the same thing.
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>>130313528
https://streamable.com/1dx6cg
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bomi p is just that good
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>when idols make cute little noises
shioni...
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>>130313487
you like it's me?
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>>130313528
jiyu...
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>>130313540
fuuuuuuuck
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>>130313537
thats usually only an issue if you release on friday
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>>130313541
no
i love it
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what happened to tina?
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>>130313541
it's great
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When will she be a mother?
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>>130313516
which group is this referring to?
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>>130313503
tonight is a soloist noona night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TudZQsVi7s
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>>130313532
i meant the fanbase. the ones who never heard the phrase "double entendre". i dont care enough about kpop to follow whether or not mhj/mgmt confirmed cookie is about *pink* cookies, although i recall danielle saying its literal. funny stuff.
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yejibros we're gonna start working out at home because we're too autistic for gyms what should our routine be
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>>130313553
do not bring this disgusting faggotry into kpg
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>>130313556
ive
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>>130313527
we got this and dodaeng coming back with ioi soon
ki-lingbros we eatin' good
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>>130313552
>>130313554
you like 2:18 meme songs? i bet you love gnarly
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>>130313562
this seems to be decidedly offtopic
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>>130313551
I think Babymonster released on a Monday. YG probably underestimated demand, I guess.
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baemon redditor giving his retarded opinion
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>>130313567
hybe will never release a single that is over 3 minutes long ever again
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>>130313566
everything will be daijoubu in the end
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>>130313558
roastie retards were crying about it being too lewd so based newjeans responded by saying the song was literally about cookies and calling the retarded roasties perverts for misinterpreting the song. then they released another song with a MV about complainer roasties needing to take their meds.
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ive's album sales are propped up by them doing like 10x as many fan signs as other popular groups to sell more albums. that's like slave labor for idols, and it's what idols probably hate most about their job. and they'll intentionally demand less (or no) fan signs when re-signing their contracts
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>>130313557
suicidal ideation angel
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>>130313562
depends what you want brother but a pullup bar, a treadmill, and some weights will take you pretty far, a bench if you want it as well
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>suicidal ideation angel
sera...
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>>130313567
too short, we prefer 2:35 meme songs like super shy
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>>130313584
are you ready for the six episode depression kino documentary
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*sips monster*
ahhh newjeans, now that was a kpop group, the best there ever was all have said...
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>>130313579
you mean OMG? lol
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cookie is about music records and cds actually; by tasting their cookies they mean listening to their songs
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>>130313587
documentary?
*checks archive*
LMAOOOOOOOO no way
didnt she get married why does she love suffering so much?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpG4AotIuEc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXsiSYs-HHw
these boa songs were way, way underrated
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>no don't chartshit!
>proceeds to salesshit
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>>130313584
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going in for a big whiff of hanni's cookies after they're frosted
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>>130313592
>you mean OMG?
is that the one with the insane asylum mv? the insane asylum mv is about whiny roasties needing to take their meds and stop complaining about newjeans on the internet, kek.
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>>130313599
sales charts are charts are they not
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>>130313599
mys are mentally broken looking everywhere for a gotcha
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>>130313599
those are one in the same
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Close your eyes
Hold my hand
Forget all the times you were alone
I’ll be on your side in this dark world, baby
Now be with me
Baby you and I
Baby you and I
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>>130313596
brother some people were born to suffer. i was too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYncu-Ivgok
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>>130313597
breh i was listening to kiss my lips again and theres so many great songs on that album i had overlooked before
her discog is goated i hope she comes back eventually after recovering from the stab in the back
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>>130313580
nmixx was the biggest fansign spammer

literally 92 fansigns for midsummer dream
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>life is suffering

> NO NOOOO kpop trainees suffer more!!! waaahhhh
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>europe trip
kot...
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>>130313596
>why does she love suffering so much
please understand
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_(cultural)
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great now he's going to claim fansigns is a payola as well
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>>130313623
you sound like an unsufferable idiot
take a break
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>>130313620
>literally 92 fansigns
surely you don't actually mean literally 92

that's an insane amount
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>>130313617
sera should be working on giving her husband a kid just like moon did look at how well it worked for her
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>>130313624
uhh ohh dr kim fucked up this time
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>>130313624
goblin wants human sperm
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>>130313639
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>>130313624
the fuck happened to her face
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kek at the mys and tokkis crying in agony at the victim olympics



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