oldfags of reality, what was it like? was it like a non-stop buffet of music videos? when did it peak? when did it fall? what was the zeitgeist like?
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>>130344586i didn't start consciously watching until the late 90s and by then you could already sense the decline. the real world/road rules, the first reality tv shows, were constantly airing. they had one thing that brought the youth of america together after school: total request live, better known as TRL. aired at i think 3:30 in the afternoon every weekday for an entire hour. they would air the top 10 music videos of the time and you could vote for them by calling in. artists frequently came on the show to promote their shit. i remember korn held a contest for the cover art of their new album issues. TRL was a real cultural touchstone. it was like the entire country sitting down to watch the ed sullivan show in the 60s.aside from that they also had the osbournes which debuted in the early 2000s and was absolutely massive. looking back now it's hard to watch. you could just feel how fake and manufactured the whole thing was.as for its peak i'd say it was probably the early/mid 90s. they had A LOT of experimental shit on then. lots of different cartoons. beavis and butthead, daria, celebrity deathmatch, the undergrads, aeon flux, the maxx (HIGHLY recommended, it's basically an animated graphic novel).
>>130344586i liked much music a lot in the mid 00s
I remember some TV channel used to run these episodes of panelists who'd review popular songs from a particular category, like 2000s and 1990s, giving snippets of commentary on them, in the same format the Fine Bros later adopted for their Kids React series.Pre-YouTube recommendations, it was a good way to discover stuff that was before your time or awareness.
>>130344586I dunno. My family had it in the 80s but I missed on the Beavis & Butthead era because my mom found God and decided to ban it until 1997. From 1992-1997 we had no MTV and because of that I got into grunge late. I did end up picking up the guitar, discovered 80s hardcore soon after and formed a band though in 2000.
80s could be pretty trashy and different, i was little then and my parents only let me watch vh1. Grunge came to my shit small town via mtv, though, if you were into that sort of thing it was pretty good. 120 minutes and Headbangers ball were great during this era, Beavis and Butthead came out, etc. By 95-96, a random spice girls or Hanson video would come on bringing premonitions of a dark future, but by the late 90s it was full on backstreet boys, Carson Daly, trl awfulness. Also this was the era when they started with full on shows. It fucking sucked, luckily the Internet came along shortly thereafter and no one needed MTV anymore.
>>130346474yeah everyone these days focuses on TRL but 120 minutes had the best live performances of any TV show. mixing was so much better than late night had: https://youtu.be/DlIo4sbpYHU
as a teenager in the 90s i thought it was pretty great. it wasn't an unending buffet of music videos anymore like in the 80s but the shows they had were entertaining (thinking beavis and butthead, sifl & olly and even the real world was novel and intriguing at the time), and they still did play a lot of music. was a totally different landscape vs today where you can pull up literally any song or video you want at any time, so it was always a thrill to catch your favorite band or song on tv. i remember liking 120 minutes and alternative nation especially (i feel like one time i even skipped dinner with my family because alt nation was going to play a new green day video or something like that)i still watched it into the 2000s, less for the music (they didn't play much) but the shows were youthful and fun (true life, andy dick, pimp my ride, andy milonakis, jackass, undressed, some of their goofy dating shows, etc)would give anything to go back now that i'm thinking about it
Shout out to Amp, that was my introduction to autechre.
>>130344586Just repeating music videos of the same 20 bands + south park + freaks and geeks + daria + beebis n butthead however its called + ren n stimpy or whatever + jackass
>>130345213I wouldn't do that, the janitor doesn't like people bumping threads with "bump" and will ban you.
>>130348318i like to live dangerously
>>130348318are you sure?
in the 80s it was for white kids, then in the 90s they started forcing rap on everyone, but the 90s werea mix of reality tv and music, a good mix, and some cartoons like daria and beavis and butthead, and then in the 2000s music was tossed to mtv2 and the main mtv channel was nothing but shitty reality tv showsmtv use to control what was cool with kids, the mtv movie and music award shows were considered events you would talk about the next day at school or worki kind of get nostalgic for the whole thing, but at the same time its probably for the best a giant corporation like viacom doesnt control whats cool anymore
watching 120 Minutes in the late 80s early 90s must have been sovl
>>130344586https://youtu.be/CaZUVZ2F_Dc?si=81xiIirtXnr4jzEp&t=65>what am i going to do?>whatever the fuck i want>*starts swimming in piss*
>>130352255fuck i missed this is the link i wanted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agO_QuLs3Vojej
>>130345594>they would air the top 10 music videos of the time and you could vote for them by calling inThis was also how Tom Green's Bum Bum song became number one. He told his fans to stop requesting it because it wasn't fair to 98 Degrees. Kek.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zB_nMJYm4JE
>>130344586The era I caught was already this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSxUt6M8_Fkhttps://youtu.be/2ne_KwVeIco?t=8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne2YuMZ2ZlAPeppered with heavy rotation of these:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S43IwBF0uMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAx6mYeC6pYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDl9ZMfj6aEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr3x7tS__dE
>>130348318is there anything worse than /mu/ and /v/ janny trannies?
>>130344586Mtv was never peak. But the time when you had several stations just playing music vids and you had a variety hour for every genre somewhere, that was nice.
>>130345623elaborate why?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK_2xwmUnEQ
>>130352115it was>>130344586mtv was always hit and miss, because they barely had any contet to start, which was ok cuz that meant it was like normal radio, meh but you like a song here and there. and that meant it was like tv, meh but you liked a show here and there.a lot of people didnt have access to college radio kind of music communities and cool magazines for new music, so when niche shit began to appear, alt and indie electro shit, it was really cool. 120 minutes, cool.then the pop culture reality tv shit came and it was all gone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S96Z8NR8Mow
>>130352368I remember watching that Live. He was a real one for that desu, was grateful that it happened but was like man I'm just fucking around I feel bad for the actual artists who tried.Tom Green was so fuckin good back then, it's incredible he managed to get the budget he did to make any of his bullshit. Freddy Got Fingered is him just wasting MTV budget trying to make the stupidest shit possibleThinkin about this got me remembering this old ass internet song, oldfags might remember ithttps://youtu.be/5tcGyQVc__8never noticed the modest mouse sample until now
>>130361078>a lot of people didnt have access to college radio kind of music communities and cool magazines for new music, so when niche shit began to appear, alt and indie electro shit, it was really cool. 120 minutes, cool.yeah 120 minutes was for the most part the only cool part of MTV if you were into niche shit back then. Beavis and Butthead would show good music too sometimes, it's how I found Ween.>then the pop culture reality tv shit came and it was all gone.a few years ago I looked at the MTV schedule on their website out of curiosity and it was not even exaggerating 95% "Ridiculousness" with an occasional single slot for Teen Mom every few days. Apparently Rob Dyrdek somehow fleeced the whole company in some slick business deals and made his show literally the only thing that runs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLbveZxzjKk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYDEXMN1Fdo
I'm 37. It was mostly trash pop rap and boy bands. As a kid I remember getting early exposure to Fiona Apple, Marilyn Manson, and Snoop Dogg through it, so that was nice. The great artists of the time like OutKast really shone. By the early 2000s extreme metal was nowhere near TV anymore, and I wasn't even aware of Headbangers Ball's death metal until years later. That's why nu metal was so big - it was the closest thing mainstream TV let people to metal. I remember blink-182, Sum 41, and Green Day were really exciting, because it was the most exciting, alternative thing my middle school self had heard up to that point. That was also why the garage rock revival felt revolutionary for my age group - suddenly MTV was playing raw, alternative bands like The White Stripes, The Vines, The Hives, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, and Franz Ferdinand, and it was such a step up from the rest of the stuff playing on MTV. That stuff led me to underground punk and industrial music, and by the time the emo-pop/scene thing happened I was already in my late teens, so of course it all seemed very cringe to me, but in hindsight it must've held the same significance for younger millennials that the garage rock revival bands held for me. If you watched MTV it was mostly bad pop and rap music, and even worse reality TV. Only years later did I learn about the heyday of 120 Minutes and Headbangers Ball via YouTube, which played real indie and metal music.If MTV were big today, it'd be mostly playing artists like MGK and Yungblud. I think it's also important to consider that today's pop stars (Swift, Lipa, Halsey, etc.) are a lot better than the pop stars back then (Backstreet Boys, NSync, Spears, Aguilera). The death of MTV was not a bad thing. However, old clips of 120 Minutes and Headbangers Ball are worth checking out. One thing I will say, there were some funny cartoons they tried out when I was a teen, like 3 South and Undergrads.
I first got to experience MTV in the late '90s. The main channel was all TV shows with TRL being the probably the only program that showed music videos. Some ofnthose TV shows were good, such as Dariah and Downtown, plus I was young & stupid enough to enjoy Celebrity Deathmatch and thw Tom Green Show. MTV2 was as close to a non-stop buffet of music video beffet as you could get, and they were kind of like college radio where you never knew what was they were going to play and probably haven't heard of at least half of it in the first place. This was too long ago for me to remember the majority of what I saw, though I do recall this one time when they played the Bob Dylan song "Don't Think Twice" as performed by Mike Ness of Social Distortion from the time he played a solo acoustic set on the show 120 Minutes, and that clip was immediately followed by a live video of Bob Dylan playing his song "Tangled Up In Blue". Bretty fuckin' neato.
I was born mid 90s so I missed MTVs big era but when I was a kid every morning we turned on VH1 and watched tons of music videos and this was pretty much peak and we did this up to the party rock era but MTV gave up on morning videos a lot sooner seemed like
>>130344586My first contact with mtv was Katy Perry videos and reality shows so no golden era for me, obviously YT was mainstream for everyone so Mt made little sense then. I guess the 80s must have been nice, maybe up to the early 90s? I think they showed mostly videos at first and then they started adding other programs, and then more trashy sort of programs so that ruined it all. I wonder if earlier decades were genre diverse, because all I got was mainstream pop rock.
>>130345623t. leaf
>>130345922Your mom sounds like a grifter
We're just wander around, go to people's houses, everyone was chillin. We'd gather at a living room, get some snacks, videos randomly came up. We'd laugh, we'd talk about it, we'd see something new in pop culture, we'd hear a fresh sound that sounds so good and get feels. I'm glad to have lived that.
>>130348318bump
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>>130368449SouthPark is still funnyAnd Viva La Bam even tho that guy became a huge cokehead with mental problems
>>130346649this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D1lXsDhZU4
My parents were weird and had MTV on since the dawn of the show starting in the early 80s. I was really young in the 80s but the videos were really interesting and artsy at times back then. Then hair metal oversaturated it by the late 80s. The grunge and alternative wave influenced a more dank environment in the early 90s and that was peak imo. It was a lot of fun to see the weird and funny kind of shit they would put on there. The pop wave in the late 90s brought a proto poptimist wave that was its downfall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkAxGVO5bDg
>>130374745i recall that anime vs ad, yeah it was around 2004. how different was mtv la in 2004 in comparison with 2003 and 2002?
>>130355563video on trial
>90% of MTV’s existence is people complaining that MTV is no longer MTV
I had a slightly different experience because I was watching Much Music. In the 90s, it hadn't quite declined in the way that MTV did, at least not until the later 90s. Canada at the time was a more isolated and whiter country, even in Toronto where this was based and whose culture it actually represented, so the energy was pretty different. In the 90s, the CRTC (the state media regulatory agency) mandated a minimum percentage of Canadian content and programming, which affected all media including Much Music. That meant 30% of music videos had to be from Canada. That means by the mid-90s I was seeing these videos a ton:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yectAV5Dpa4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_1QAC_6Zuchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzyh7qw-31shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdPy0P92mmUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivnq7Z8GW4shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ladagy7wgNAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT2Bgnd0_xsetc.There were a lot of weird quirks to the VJs and the general energy of Toronto at the time. As a kid, I didn't really have any sense of where the music itself came from except when it was explicitly mentioned. Any given song could have come from anywhere, but of course it meant seeing stuff going on around the country. I watched it more or less obsessively when I was watching the TV. Like other people's experience, a lot of the time watching was basically chick bands or interests. There was some value to that though for a kid coming into sexual maturity. It was in essence a necessary cultural touchstone here and it did me plenty of good before it went to complete shit. The thing that exists now, which started especially in the early 00s, is just a walking corpse.
