>>130356460
Holy onions

god forbid your bandmate try and save his soul and fnd some purpose in life, not far from judging your bandmate for becoming a parent

inb4 all the incel larps come out of the woodwork proclaim their moral superiority

>>130356460
>but in the alt/indie spheres as the music shifts ever further from its working class builders and towards ivy league yuppies and trust fund kids
At least he admits he's part of the problem.

>>130356623
>At least he admits he's part of the problem.
? Will's mom was a tard wrangler at the middle school iirc. How the fuck is that being a trust fund kid? Retard.

>>130356601
>ry and save his soul and fnd some purpose in life,
LOL FUCK OFF CHRISTKEK

>>130356623
>ivy league yuppies and trust fund kids

Always been the main demographic of all punks/indie/emo kids etc

>>130356460
Wait can someone give me a qrd? Last time I checked Will was still a gay furry who believed in never taking off his covid mask. When did he begin his chud arc?

>>130356460
>I'm too woke and lefty for the "the rich cannot enter the kingdom of heaven" religion, sorry

>>130356827
He's dying of AIDS and remembered that his mom took him to church once for Easter services when he was 10.

>>130356827
He rerecorded Teens of Denial and removed all the swears on it for vague religious reasons. Now all his mostly queer teen fanbase are currently freaking the fuck out.

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>>130356827
People tend to find solace in a higher faith as they age. It's a shame people immediately portray them as conservative hate-mongers or chuds (maybe that's the issue here, idk, I thought this guy was a basedboy). The general Christian theology supports this guitar player's lifestyle; care for those that need care. Yet those that need care and acceptance most tend to be totally opposed to any sort of religion.

Queer discord groups are basically unorganized churches. A flock to blindly follow. They badly need that community. Too bad they often see each other as polar opposites.

>>130356460
I'd imagine Will's furry tranny fans will have no problem with him embracing Christianity because it's a gay geriatric hollowed out religion repurposed as a HR department with nothing left but absurd moralism, the kind you encounter in most modern fandoms. His bandmates will come around once Will confirms he still supports trans rights and all that.

>>130356935
>People tend to find solace in a higher faith as they age.
source? and even if they did i'd wager this is largely driven by a realization of their mortality and impending death, not some noble philosophical pursuit.

>It's a shame people immediately portray them as conservative hate-mongers or chuds
it's a shame because people realize the truth? american christians, particularly evangelicals, are some of the nastiest and most hateful people in the country. not to mention they generally have lower IQs due to distrust of institutions like public education getting in the way of indoctrinating them with their faith teachings.

>Yet those that need care and acceptance most tend to be totally opposed to any sort of religion.
possibly true but again as i said, christians don't have the best reputation in the country. over the past 80 years they've been some of the most bigoted forces in the country and they've been paying for it with church attendance getting worse every year. boomers in particular did a number on the faith. i can't tell you how many of my peers have a similar story to mine
>raised in religious household with 80 IQ boomer parents where religion was used as a behavioral cudgel rather than a spiritual tool
>eventually became disillusioned and abandoned religion altogether

the christian church has no one to blame but themselves and their laity for their rapid downfall in the west.

>>130357017
Will is a bpd case. This is just the beginning of his gay furry Nazi terf arc. He will be like this for the next few years until he comes back around on the troon question after his fan base dies.

>>130356460
This is why this guy is going to burn in hell. He is recognizing that his idolatry towards rectum sex is more important to him than remission of sins.
Glad to know this guy is as much a loser as I always pegged him for

>>130356791
You will start sobbing, uncontrollably when you feel the pain of hellfire. Nobody will mourn you in hell. You are exactly the sort of person that proves why a hell has to exist
>my soul is already perfect
Nope. You need remission of sins. By grace through faith alone. Going to heaven is literally free and you have no one but yourself to blame if you don't end up there, because Christ did the work for you already and still you spit in His face.
Either be saved, or go to literal hell and stay there.

>>130357086
>Asks for source on something everybody knows
>Proceeds to spew a bunch of bullshit without a source
Yes we get it Christians are the worst that's why protestants have rolled back all of their "bigotry" and we now have gay and female pastors everywhere
>80 IQ boomer parents
Anon...IQ is largely genetic
Go back

>>130356460
>Your thoughts on this?
I think you're a fag for asking that.

>>130356460
Politics are downstream from religion. If somebody curses religion because it doesn't vibe with their 30 year old manufactured political views, it's simple immaturity. Somebody who can't be bothered to consider another perspective or the development of societies.

That said, this all seems right in line with what I would expect from the band, so carry on.

>>130356460
Didn't indie start out being called "college rock"
Are you still working class if you go to college and get a white collar job? Does the term mean nothing anymore? Srs question cause if it just means anybody who gets a w2 then that's the vast majority of the US
REM got big on college radio

>>130356460
Can liberals stop being a bunch of fags for five seconds?

>>130357142
>no argument
>can only talk in disingenuous fox news talking points
not sure why i expected anything different

>>130356460
This is some of the faggiest shit I have read

>makes a list of categories of people he subjectively considers inferior
Didn't know this level of delusion outside of pure irony still existed today. How sad and revolting to witness at the same time.

>>130357108
trvke
>>130356460
gayest bullshit i've read in a while. liberals really feel entitled to other people's business and are also addcited to virtue signaling. "my friend is turning to religion and i need to make that about myself and how i don't approve of it because of my superior hedonistic fudgepacker morality". funny to see the troons and fudgepackers mad ITT.

>>130356460
Hopefully this sodomite burns in hell

-MogMaster

>>130357326
>>makes a list of categories of people he subjectively considers inferior
Anon that happens here countless times every single day...Why are you shocked that people outside of here do it too?

>>130356460
>politically allergic

they find the cutest words to hide the fact that they're even more intolerant than the people they criticize

>>130356601
Cooked this gay band mates
>>130356791
He's coming. Your gay ass isn't going.

>>130356878
Why does he need to re record albums to begin with? He must be a big Taytay fan

>>130357086
That's a lot of cope. Shame it isn't gonna save you from getting your asshole absolutely annihilated in hell, you fucking retard.

>>130357537
/thread. Bro is absolute trash. I've seen some inane bullshit from far lefty bands and keep following and listening to them because my tolerance is normally high but this is unacceptable.

>>130357086
Seething and soon to be boiling.

>>130358868
hope jesus sees this bro

>>130359120
He sees all. Just like He's gonna see you kicking, screaming, blubbering and begging for forgiveness. Thankfully He's more forgiving of your retarded antics than I am, you faggot bitch.

>>130356460
some of the gayest shit ive ever read. im not on social media so... this is just so lame. i cant even imagine how lost modern day adults are if the think like this

>>130356460
gay furries are ultrvbvsed

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>>130359267
hope god sees this bro

>>130359737
i mean.... that's kinda what he's known for

>>130359737
>>130359763
Clock it

>>130359503
>why won't gaytheists criticize other religions that they weren't raised in or have any personal experience with checkmate gaytheists haha
Incel logic everyone

It's incredible how this religion idiocy has seen a resurgence so soon in my lifetime, I thought the wars and climate disasters later this century might drive people to look for "answers" but I didn't expect to happen this bad this soon. What don't you retards get about the 'turn the other cheek' stuff and the 'stone the whores to death' stuff contradicting each other? Why are you so captured by this neurolinguistic virus that you can't see this is a bunch of Persian desert law and mythology smushed together with chinese whispers about some chill dude who went round teaching sensible life lessons and psychedelic-type stuff & got kicked upstairs into untouchable sainthood so we wouldn't have copycats going around causing trouble by fixing things / rebelling against the eli- *ahem* romans

>>130360795
No one is reading all that gay shit you just typed

>but muslims are cool (as long as they're not white)

>>130356460
*tips fedora*

>>130360795
This has nothing to do with "climate" bs, the problem, is that humans are biologically wired to be emotions first, logic/doubt second or third, which, coupled with the need for belonging, is how things like cults, be it ideological or religious, get formed.

Humans indoctrinated from childhood into the kind of bullshit with absolutely ZERO evidence, like this retard : >>130357118 # learned to apply logic selectively, and that questioning the baseless nonsense his family taught him, would be "bad". As long as humans continue to value "experiences" over raw data, this kind of thing will continue.
One day, once the disease-prone flawed human bodies/minds are augmented, and the need for validation/belonging ,along with the fear of death, are reduced ( through AI companions, neuralink, tailored medication, life extention etc...) religion, along with other human flaws, will decline, until they fade into irrelevance by the early 2200s.

>>130359864
It is hypocritical to be so vindictive towards Christianity and proving God doesn't exist if you arent going to actively attack other religions which in many cases are more oppressive and antithetical towards your lifestyle choices. Its bizarre to me that atheists are so obsessed with disproving the existence of God too, honestly why do you care? What difference does it make to you if people believe in God and people choose to believe and why does it make you so angry ?

>>130361212
>It is hypocritical to be so vindictive towards Christianity and proving God doesn't exist if you arent going to actively attack other religions
too scared of backlash to do it.

>>130361212
I don't know about the anon you replied to, but for me the reason is obvious : christianity affects me directly in daily life; I rarely see other religions discussed in real life, but I do attack Islam all the time, it is way worse than the secularized Christianity of europe, that's the main reason I refuse to "support palestine" regardless of what Israel does, Islam is the most dangerous religion in the 21st century, a cancer that spreads and needs to be cured, no matter how.
Most other religions are mostly performative, without the "be like us or go to hell" of the abrahamic ones, just the "we're one with the earth" kind of thing, mostly "harmless/tolerable"

>>130356460
Such a funny weird world. You never know what snaps in people to do the things they do. Was it a rash decision or a slow building thing? Anyways, this dude needs to talk to his band member and not just make this weird vague blanket statement about a thing everyone knows about. If Will is Christcucking himself, then why stick around? Oh right he's prolly deathly afraid of the real world and having a real job. Rather live in the fantasy where your band leader is going religious and you just make statements about how it's bad but don't have any actual principles to separate yourself from him.

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I do not blame him honestly. Christcucks openly ruined the country and arguably the planet over their scientology-level cult. It must be awful to see his music collaborator and friend fall into that

>>130361247
This
Reddit atheists in for a rude awakening when the mudslimes come to America the way they've invaded the UK

>>130356460
These people really believe other people care about this stuff don't they?

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>>130356460
>Be Ethan Ives
>Some nobody
>Become friends with gay furry sperg who let's you fulfill your dreams of touring the country
>Finally a famous guitar player
>Friend becomes religious again
>Pay him back by shitting on him and his beliefs publicly instead of just keeping your fucking mouth shut and playing the tunes
Can't trust anyone with this phenotype

>>130361212
>It is hypocritical to be so vindictive towards Christianity and proving God doesn't exist if you arent going to actively attack other religions
No it's really not. Again, Christianity is what they grew up in. It's what they have experience with. You only want them to go after other religions as some sort of pathetic gotcha and because it makes you upset to see Christianity criticized (and oftentimes you having no legitimate response).

If I grew up playing only football, why the fuck would you ask me what it's like to play baseball?

>>130361683
Turning CSH into a proper band and giving these other faggots any say at all fucked the entire project. Will should be running that thing like Mark E. Smith.

>>130361918
Agreed. I don't know how much say these ankle biters have in the new direction but I don't think it's a coincidence his newer output is so much shittier.
I understand not sharing the same views but shitting on your bro like that publicly is such a dick move.

Don't care about this gay fake drama Will. Just put the music in the bag lil bro.

>>130356460
The fact that Will went from "Wes Anderson is a racist for making a movie set in Japan" to "Guys look im Christian now" in less than 10 years proves that its nothing but a massive larp and the dude is just desperate for attention

>>130362685
he's dying of AIDS and he knows the political climate has changed from what it was circa 2015

>>130362714
>he's dying of AIDS
Wasn't that cured? I think it's called ATZ and it was made by fauci?

>>130361735
But his talking points are related only to American Evangelical Christianity. He's not better than someone who says that all Muslims are bloodthirsty ISIS supporters.

>>130362714
and yet the people he's trying to pander to will never accept him, while his fans abandon him

>>130363085
Migatards will accept any grifter willing to pander to them
See: Russell Brand, Tate brothers, milo etc

>>130356460
>or person of color
lmao, most of them are christian.
unless they're muslim, but if he feels allergic to Christianity, he should feel even more regarding Islam.

>>130362427
You want new CSH? In 2026?

>>130356460
ok sooo quit the band then instead of writing this basedslop?

>>130357086
>source?
How about "going outside and talking to people"?

>>130361603
>when the mudslimes come to America
when? next century kek?

>>130356460
Nobody blue collar listens to indie slop what the fuck is this fag talking about?
It's literally nothing but trust fund queers or whiny liberals that work at a coffee shop that listen to indie shit
In fact I don't know a single person that isn't some terminally online beta fag that even knows who carseat headrest are.

>>130361735
Christian influence is virtually nonexistent in daily life in even the deep south outside of wealthy, ALL WHITE communities.
So they're just admitting they're sheltered and came from a materially luxurious but emotionally oppressive environment.
The hypocrisy is off the charts, in just one statement they confirm not only are they self hating based purely off their ignorance of other cultures but admit to having zero experience with any of those other cultures outside of their extremely limited and narrow scope from being online.
If your biggest issue is
>evil christians
then you're only admitting to how limited your worldview actually is. Go ahead and hate christianity all you want, see how culturally enriching an experience with a bunch of Nation of Islam coons or a bunch of fucking street shitting Indians.
I bet every one of those faggot liberal white and jew kids would run to the nearest church if they had even the most mild experience with these other cultures they want to import so badly.
It comes from nothing other than their own experience and resentment towards their families.

>>130357118
Religious people are such fucking retards holy shit

>>130365543
you calling people different than you "coons" (what is this, 1924?), "street shitting indians" and "faggots" is not setting a great example for your so-called religion of love. Yoga and Hinduism have spiritual technologies incredibly more advanced than Christianity. The Christian church has always served historically to repress the presence of true sacred experience and deem it demonic, while India has preserved wisdom traditions designed to set you on the straight & narrow path to enlightenment, as an actual thing you can experience and not some vain hope of being rewarded in the afterlife (necessarily).

>>130365810
That's a lot of words to say "I have white savior complex."

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>>130360795
based

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>>130357118
>and now for my final argument to end all arguments: jewish folklore my parents taught me

>>130365810
Now I know you're trolling. India has the most horrific apartheid caste system that still exists despite them lying and saying it's over because it's baked into their religion. That and the hindus' never ending blood feud with their Muslim neighbors.
>Muh racist words is le heckin worst thing ever
Stfu retard words don't hurt people I can be racist all I want.
You should really go back, but first [spoiler]show us your hand, jeet[/spoiler]

>>130365543
>Christian influence is virtually nonexistent in daily life in even the deep south outside of wealthy, ALL WHITE communities.
The Northeast has many pockets of devout Irish Catholic communities (one of which I was raised in).
All parts of Utah's society are dominated by Mormons.
Not reading the rest of your post. Your previous one was already drenched in bad faith arguments and you also exposed yourself as an ESL which means you're most likely not American. As such I don't care at all for discussing anything regarding my country with you.

>>130356460
I really feel like a lot of leftists do themselves a disservice by being as out of touch and melodramatic as possible. I hate the backslide into anti-intellectual conservatism, but needing to put on this big performance about how you totally don’t want to be portrayed in any way that would possibly isolate some segment of your fan base looks retarded. Also, why are we pretending that working class people aren’t often just as, if not more, conservative than the Ivy League kids he’s shitting on.

>>130366387
I mean they are from Seattle, no? Being out of touch and retarded politically is sort of their thing

>>130366478
Seattle is the “my mom is a fascist for asking me to make my bed” capital of the world

>>130358846
I'm coming too, in my boyfriend's ass.
>>130358868
>le scary bad afterlife place with... fires n monsters n shit!!!111!1
Are you scared of the boogeyman too? Or perhaps Baba Yaga? Some of us stop believing such fairy tales when we get older than, like, 12.
>>130359503
>Noooooooo you cant talk bad stuff about my wholesome 100 christcuckerino, there are other religions that are also bad!!11!1!
What kind of retarded thinking is that? Fuck all of that bullshit I don't care. Will Toledo became a christcuck, not an allahcuck, so of course this thread is going to be about christcuckery, not about allahcuckery.
Telling that the only response christcucks get nowadays is B-B-BUT THE MOOZLIMZ!!11!!1! You and them can both fuck off (and the religious Jews, Hindus, etc.).

Actually, I wish hell was real, since Will Toledo deserves to end up there, not for being gay or anything, but rather for what he's done to Teens of Denial.

>>130356460
>rock music is when you believe everything that big corporations support
what a fag, i bet he loves muslims

>>130365493
well it's the only guitar music the industry has pushed in the last 20 years, it's not like they're exactly pushing Pantera kinds of bands anymore

>>130366666
based cybersatan get

>>130357086
>largely driven by a realization
And so, the youth's lack of religiosity is driven by an exuberantly distracted ignorance.

>>130366890
Palantir loves christians

>>130366890
Corporations don’t care about anything besides money. They don’t put pride flag filters on their profile pictures because it’s cultural orthodoxy (a bad, shortsighted metric to justify morality in general) but because they want to capitalize on a movement. They would absolutely have a gasden snake or totenkampf filter the moment that gained significant traction because they are the most nihilistic entities that exist.

>>130356460
based fuck abrahamics

>>130356935
You're right that Christianity supports what this guy posted. The problem is this band is American, and most of their fans are American, and American Christianity (of which their fanbase is only familiar with) is nothing like the Christianity you are describing. American Christianity is a religion of its own existence that has debased itself from any other Christian sect in the world. It is not a healthy religion that promotes Jesus teachings. So when a non-christian American sees another American getting into "Christianity", they are rightfully suspicious of where they are going. Maybe Will is getting into a Latin based christian denomination but my guess is he's getting into the bastardized heretic version we see in suburbs across America.

>>130357200
>If somebody curses religion because it doesn't vibe with their 30 year old manufactured political views, it's simple immaturity.
It's that why the president of the United States sells $60 autographed bibles and has pastors and rabbis blessing a gold statue of him? Christianity in America is is own religion that is not connected to any old world church. They are heretics and will all burn in hell.

>>130360795
well like you said people want simple answers. to multifactorial existential problems beyond their grasp. same reason white trash niggas who take edibles and work at the store are all of a sudden dead-ender leninist communists out of nowhere. people are looking for a reason to live in the current social climate and the best secular humanism can do is ask them nicely to not kill themselves and to keep answering emails. why not convert to islam? it's like being in jail

>My music alienates troons

AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

who's got Will's AIDS selfie where he's making the chud face?

bump

>>130357118
hell is a spook story that was meant to scare kids

i find it admirable how this guy will probably be the last person in history to become somewhat well known in music. He was just some guy who posted music on bandcamp and somehow got big

>>130373825
*last person in history to be become somewhat well known in music naturally

>>130356460
I don't give two shits from a moral perspective whether or not Will finds God.
But I mean holy shit did you guys listen to the Teens Of Denial remake? It's fucking terrible. If that's what his Christian arc is gonna produce. He needs to go back to hard drugs and Satanism.

>>130359503
is it soi to be a furry?

>>130356460
This is unbelievably retarded on so many levels

>>130373982
>erm i need a special safety layer of cartoon animal heads on my gay porn otherwise i'm uncomfortable
extremely cringe onions and cowardly tbqh lad. doesn't help that they're all mormon glowies too