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>>130400409Falkenbach - magni blandinn ok megintíristraddles that line between genres but i think it has enough clean singing to count
>>130400766alright i'll give it a whirl. cool album art, too.
>>130400399Minimalist art is my passion
>>130400823>Minimalist art is my passiondid you forget to post your image or respond to the wrong thread?Could you link the right thread or post your image?
riot is the best trad metal band of all time
BLASTIN'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKshRnuByQo
>>130401071makes the cut, there's only one song here (#2) that is predominantly harsh vocals, and some of these songs don't even have any.
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Got myself a copy of this. For the most part single-minded speed riffery - above average and great fun, but I got it for this goofy anthem:https://youtu.be/nNoeUDmpM3k
>>130400409The era of shitty computer generated graphic art replacing the soulful cover art of the 1970s-early 90s.
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=mgqfGWz4UzE>Sex Religion>Sex Religion Machine>Let me feel your body burnHow does the rhyme in the chorus work? Does it rhyme?And what is a 'sex religion machine' anyways? I'm not sure but I guess it sounds vaguely cool.
>>130400409Elegy - Manifestation of FearHoly Mother - Toxic RainSeer's Tear - Precious
>>130400399Maiden brought out INFINITE DREAMS today in Greece! LESGOO
>>130401071The best debut album out therespeed metal reigns supreme
>>130403801counted all three>Seer's Tear - Preciouswas actually going to listen to this one last month lol, but i couldn't find a great copy of it
>>130401071a step down from state of mind but still very good. seconding.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0SRnHZtTH4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLEyZlSbfCEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4Rl9j5SO1Q
>>130400399Goated album
>>130405945it's the only maiden album i consider one of my all-time favorites tbdesu. somewhere in time's pretty damn close too, but i feel it's just a bit too inconsistent in the first half.alexander the great is my favorite maiden song though
Decent French powerprog, worth a go for fans of Symphony X, Royal Hunt or Elegy. Good Coverdale-ish vocals from Pink Cream 69's David Readman and some great guitar playing even if the leads are a bit derivative of Malmsteen in parts.
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>>130403150here's a modern band doing that whether you asked or notwww.youtube.com/watch?v=_yTURU3mfS4
>>130400399I can't wait to see these guys live along with Megadeth in September.
I'd love to know how true metalheads felt like in the late 00s when all this numetal butt rock alt rock shit finally died.
>>130407145Melodic Metalcore replaced it which was awful in its own way.
>>130407145>>130407162which was worse?
>>130407246I suppose Nu-Metal because it's false, although Melodic Metalcore was so fucking wussy. Nu-Metal could at least be fun.
>>130407145True metalheads love nu butt grunge, John Arch's favorite band is Silverchair
Between Turbo and Somewhere in Time, I think Turbo is the better album, and SiT is Maiden's weakest album, and I rank No Prayer For the Dying above it in the band's discography.
>>130400409Pain of Salvation - One Hour By the Concrete Lake
>>130407375interesting. could you elaborate on why?
>>130406381You're right, similar approach. Plus Klaus Meine vocals.>>130403742Not familiar with that VS phase. Were they trying to become Mötley Crüe? Or was it an attempt at parody?Anyway, it's got that awful production, before Loudness but similar ear fatigue effect.
Why did Queensryche break out into mainstream popularity while these guys struggled? They both started out with a similar power metal sound but I think Queensryche pivoted into more MTV friendly territory whereas Fates Warning remained true to a power metal sound.
>>13040764480s Queensryche just outright had better songs than period Fates Warning and Crimson Glory
>>130407375Caught - amazing intro and solo section, neat atmosphere, but a bit repetitive and overlong, 7Wasted - some of Maiden's best pop metal, classic solo, 9Sea - underrated song, I enjoy the awkward rough-and-tumble of the verses which I think hurt it for many, and the bridge is sublime, 10Heaven - terrible vocal melodies but excellent instrumental bridge, 7Loneliness - one of their most melodic songs and the passion makes the repetition feel deliberate in a good way, 8Stranger - borders on AOR with another classic Smith solo, 9Deja Vu - kinda fillery, cool Dave intro but the song itself is too simple even for its already shorter length, 7Alexander - the actual peak of Maiden's dual leads, 10Turbo - classic, 9Locked - excellent, a bit urgent, 8Private - fun hard rock, 7Parental - not a fan of "hello fellow kids" songs especially with Halford's weird sneery punk affection going on, 4Rock - fun pop rock, 6Out - the equivalent to Maiden's Stranger, cold atmospheric AOR-ish excellence, 9Wild - fun pop rock, 6Hot - totally overlooked gem, energetic, pre-chorus bursting with energy the synth effects on the solos sound almost alien, maybe my favorite on the album, 10Reckless - classic, 9Tailgunner - weak chorus and the lyrical theme a bit of a rehash, but still memorable and very enjoyable, 8Holy - goofy but enjoyable, 7No Prayer - excellent and a little outside the norm, 9Public - enjoy the rowdiness and aggression, some amazing melodies from Dave, 9Fates - one of their weirder songs that people don't seem to recognize, and Janick's solo is sublime albeit brief, 9Assassin - goofy but underrated, one of their more musically involved songs, could have fit in a King Diamond album, 8Run - has potential but a bit disjointed with some strained vocal melodies, 6Hooks - guilty pleasure, always loved this, 9Bring - trashy but catchy, 7Mother - not a "true" epic but riffs and shreds, 10SiT is the clear winner, but all three are great
>>130406240Underworld is even better.
>>130401071This album is so generic and lame. It's like it was created by AI.
>>130411484correct. axel rudi pell sucks ass in general
>>130407813i dont understand rating hot for love higher than turbo lover or out in the cold.
>>130407602>Not familiar with that VS phase. Were they trying to become Mötley Crüe? Or was it an attempt at parody?apparently it was trying to be more blues inspired according to the band leader.>Anyway, it's got that awful production, before Loudness but similar ear fatigue effect.here's an alternate mix from them:https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=WKf6niLvcPA
>>130407375That might just be the weirdest take out there.
>>130407813>Caught - amazing intro and solo section, neat atmosphere, but a bit repetitive and overlongWish it was longer
>>130407813Private Property is a Libertarian anthem. It's based.
https://youtu.be/Ym1_iw1sE6A?si=SZvnMbHrhhoJoXf7
>>130401043For me it's Anthem.
>>130401071https://youtu.be/KbZ53d3k1cQ?si=ZQsoegHqyVIDA_Bvhttps://youtu.be/fMWIC7LMsKU?si=9pefCeTA5xne5Ut6https://youtu.be/pZcMp40ZMwc?si=tQl297Mag2ErcKzNhttps://youtu.be/vh9uz3GS7so?si=8k3IrBO-XliYfMJzhttps://youtu.be/sHNBxd4LnDs?si=eJ_3xtBV2kTDcPG4
>>130401071GO BACK! GO BACK!TO AFRICA!GO BACK! GO BACK!TO AFRICA!GO BACK! GO BACK!TO AFRICA!CUZ WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE!WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE!
Are there specifically any Doom Metal festivals worth attending in the USA? I see Death Metal fests all the time which I would love to attend (I feel like shit having just missed Maryland Death Fest again) but I barely ever see Doom Fests advertised at all in the USA. I guess there's Desertfest in NYC but it's just Stoner Rock by and large, not so much my style.
murasaki - devil woman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjhttqvLuxA
>>130401071I don't get the hate. This is top tier power/speed.
>>130425407It's catchy, but once you've heard one song, you've heard them all.
>>130425580Same can be said about beloved bands like AC DC and Motorhead.
>>130425911I don't think anybody under the age of 60 loves AC/DC. Motorhead has awesome riffs, so it's excused.
>>130425962My 14 year old son loves them.
>>130426063He'll grow out of it. Peak diaper rock.
>>130425962AC/DC hate is peak midwit
>>130401071substantially better than their 1976 debut. there's still a few lesser songs but the highlights (doomsday, on wings of love, mother nature's pride) are worth it. this record's also consistently heavier, too. on wings of love has riffing like a classic rainbow song and doomsday sounds like something off sad wings or sin after sin. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l77B9xxhi_9U3lWhB5lk1982CIJLyb9N0
>>130425911>Same can be said about beloved bands like AC DC and Motorhead.It's not true about either of them. Both of them have songs that are unique compared to their other songs.Yes, they have a niche, but they do stray from it sometimes.>>130425962I have AC/DC songs I like and I am in my 20s.
>>130425962I like both acdc and Motorhead. No one takes acdc's lyrics seriously it's not a fun silly rock band.
>>130407375based turbo lover
>>130401071https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM6L3ghceFEThis kills posers
>>130404224I knew I wasn't the only greek here.
>>130428115>It's not true about either of them. Both of them have songs that are unique compared to their other songs.So does Sabaton. And Dragonforce. And every other band accused of "all their songs sound the same".
>pretty heavy album >one commercial, radio-friendly outlier songPicrel and "Go it Alone" is just one example. Not that these songs are bad but has this strategy EVER worked?
>>130401071this was a giant pain in the ass to find a download of that was both complete and in good quality. murasaki are a better and heavier band live, even if the vocalist is still subpar and some of these songs aren't that noteworthy. with that being said, there's a lot of cool stuff here. wrath of the gods, black out, double dealing woman, and doomsday are all great songs; and doomsday and double dealing woman have a punch that the studio versions just don't have. black out's main riff in particular is very heavy for 1977, similar to steamrock fever by scorpions. download: https://files.catbox.moe/qxnjl2.zipplaylist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mKyPy6QcwEcbROgcP4QYwkSlYXPXGMpwI
>>130431868Paradise lost in this sense is Melniboné, right?
>>130401071this is a great fuckin' album and easily the best of murasaki's output. deep purple/rainbow and judas priest style hard 'n' heavy, and you get to hear double dealing woman with actually good vocals. highly recommended, especially if you want modern metal with organs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJrBQHQnS-4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL6GoynPW1chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFq2tYqChzEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie3lBsHrujQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqbjuNaAu5Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCBNxGdyGqE
>>130401071https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k03sWQyrlPzhtF7aEEx61G7E6LrdfhS3E
Stratovarius is so kino.
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>>130429620You are, Im not greek, just a fanboy.
>>130400399Came back from a Maiden stadium show last night, the boys still got it. Shame about the gay screens and videos during the songs. Miss me old stage props and backdrops.
>>130401071i just really want to listen to riot right now
riot - hot for love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRejJ4DE_xkthis song has really grown on me. still not really a fan of the moaning at the end, but it's mostly saved by the sick riffing.
https://youtu.be/sNDPEqGpJ7g?si=fRiyAr0aFQdT_mwH
>>130441692I'm seeing Iron Maiden for the 5th time next week.
Listening to this for the first time, shit's pretty good. Sounds a lot like peak-era Iron Maiden.
>>130445387do it!>>130445807one of my lesser played tracks off that album but still great vibes overall
does heavy metal actually get any better than this?
>>130434107Nah Melniboné isn't a paradise lol. I figured the title was referring to how the band felt about the metal scene at the time because they split up afterwards.
>>130451793Yeah, early Stormwitch is great. Unfortunately they later turned into pretty tame and lame power metal.
Genuinely what the fuck is up with this track being so polarising? Most reviews of Number of the Beast I see either bring it up as one of the most atrocious classic maiden era tracks or one of the highlights of the album and for the life of me I can't understand how this track could possibly swing in either of these directions.
>>130453222It's not a terrible song at all but it's defo the worst on the album by quite a large margin.
>>130453222The chorus sounds goofy and throws people off. That's literally all there is to it.
>>130451828>do it!i did, and i now regard narita as an even better album than i did before.>one of my lesser played tracks off that album but still great vibes overallyeah man, it's a great melodic rocker.>>130451864from 1977-1981? no, but not a lot passes them. fire down under is one of the very few albums that even though i don't consider it truly perfect (i give it a 98/100) i still group it in with my all-time favorites. because really, outside of no lies, a still pretty good song; the album IS that fucking solid. the band struck fucking GOLD on that album, and i know guy left riot 'cause of religious reasons, but if he had just stuck around for just one more fucking record, the band could've potentially been as popular as priest. they had the chops, they had the commercial and heavy crossover that drove albums in the early 80s, and they had the songs.
>>130401071this was almost as good as thundersteel, fantastic albumhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5h4BXzPNVUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNvG8jjPiOkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5op8JVT4OIghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ5KyPs_ZNAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h6y1UgSwT4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDKecNbDdwY
>>130454843the entire lore of riot is insane. guy speranza was offered to be anthrax's lead singer at one point but he had already made up his mind to step away from the music industry. riot's history is full of "what-if" scenarios
>>130455199i've always felt upset how thundersteel outshines other riot albums in a way. so many hidden gems are looked upon
>>130455199The whole DiMeo era is seriously overlooked. I honestly prefer it to the pre-Thundersteel stuff.
>>130453222Its the chorus for sure. Thats probably the only 1st song of an album that hasnt been used for its album tour and never ever used by the band for anything. They know it's bad. That album should have opened with the title song. The intro is great for it and the scream introduces Dickinson perfectly.Or an entire other opener type song should have been written.
Iron Maiden hot takes? Wrathchild is mid.
>>130458245>Wrathchild is midStudio version, totally. Rio 2001, pure adrenaline>Maiden hot takesA matter of life and death is a top 5 album
>>130400409>Virtual XI in a "best of" chartscrapping the bottom of the barrel, eh?
>>130456563i actually don't even think thundersteel is their best album. it's great, but i think narita and especially fire down under are more well-rounded. thundersteel towards the end sort of loses steam imo.
>>130458281it's my 5th favorite riot record too
>>130458245>Iron Maiden hot takes?moonchild is the only great song on seventh son of a seventh son. the rest range from good-fucking shit.
>>130458306Proper hot take. The Prophecy is the only mid song on that album. Everything else is very good to great.
>>130458302y'know i never thought of my favorite ones 'til now. from what i've listened to i think it'd go something like:fire down undernaritainishmorethundersteelrock citynightbreakernot a fan of the other early 80s riot albums, think they're decent and have a couple good songs but nothing more
>>130458341this is how my list looks:fire down undernaritaimmortal soulrock citythundersteel
>>130401071listened to this earlier. solid album, not up there with the first three + thundersteel but there's still some great shit here. i really liked the cover of burn in particular, it's faithful to the original yet a hell of a lot heavier and dimeo's performance is pretty damn good. babylon's also awesome, almost sounds like a classic gary moore song.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfIO1d7GIf8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-bBL6f8_Gwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMsZuKSf5lghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmIlBlLt1cg
>>130458425>immortal souldamn, is it really that good? i was considering checking that one out but ended up choosing nightbreaker instead.
>>130458410>>130458439this one just one of the riot albums for me
>>130458456it should be taught in schools as an example of how to make a great farewell album
>>130458268>A matter of life and death is a top 5 albumNo, but [spoiler]The Book of Souls[/spoiler] is.
>make one final album before kicking the bucket>name the opening song "riot">it's one of the best songs you ever createdhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxjJgBnN7zQ=
>>130458571Their second best album imo, after Thundersteel. I'm still grateful we got the album at all.
for me, it's fall before mehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuCcP8KXAoU
>>130401071everything on this album is a bullseye. even the weakest song, whiskey man - still kicks ass. an amazing sendoff for mark reale.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1fE09dtpmEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBd7YygHdx8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQePiLo8RYohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Zg1xlfM_Uhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPnL8GBpnz4
Glad to see that Riot is loved here by consensus. Check out the Riot Live album if you haven't.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_5yVHwoVfk
>>130458245I'm a bassist but I was never a big fan of Steve Harris. I don't like his tone nor his playing style.
THE CITY'S ABLAZE, THE TOWN'S ON FIRETHE WOMAN'S FLAMES ARE REACHIN HIGHERWE WERE FOOLS, WE CALLED HER LIARALL I HEAR ISBUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
>>130401071i'd say a few songs blend together and that it could've definitely been cut down to 9 or 10, but the highs are worth it. immortal is easily the best song here.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-Zky0QdNdghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITWx5FkqJeIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s92wiiNiUOU
Judas Priest hot take: Firepower and Invincible Shield mog most of their 70s and 80s albums.
>>130459651I think the later albums had more of a problem with songs blending together. Armor of Light was pretty much nothing but fast songs, and while I do like fast songs, please mix it up a little. You're just as good at slower songs.
>>130400409this surely should be on there
>>130458245>>130458306The difference between a proper hot take and dogshit opinion is something to actually back it up. And I don't mean it in the sense of "winning" but providing an actually interesting perspective.>highly acclaimed thing shit, actually.Yeah okay but why?
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>>130458439Blackmore actually wanted DiMeo for Purple after Turner got forced out but Jon Lord didn't want a young guy in the band and the label wanted Gillan back.
>>130400409This is never getting finished, is it?
>>130400409It needs Yngwie Malmsteen - Concerto Suite, it's a masterpiece. You can't count it as another vote, I am the first guy that already suggested it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GMjJyU-t0Uhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3wtJkTpPG4
>>130463919>Yeah okay but why?i just find much of seventh son merely decent and nothing more. at worst (can i play with madness?) it's irritating. i also remember thinking the title track went on way too long, and the repeating chorus was kind of lame; but other than that i don't have much to say about the album. it's just sort of... there.
>>130460948counted it
>>130456533Blackmore wanted DiMeo for Deep Purple in the 90s but the rest of the band went with Gillan
>>130458341for me it'sThundersteelFire Down UnderNaritaBrethren of the LonghouseRock CityBorn in AmericaNightbreakerInishmoreRestless BreedSons of Societyworking through the rest as the charts go along
>>130458306Moonchild is REALLY good. It immediately caught me on first listen.The rest of the songs on that album didn't.
For me, it's the melodic guitar work in Infinite Dreams and Evil That Men Do, especially the cleans in the opening verse of the former.
>>130458306>>130469569How the fuck do you not like Infinite Dreams, The Evil That Men Do, The Clairvoyant and Only The Good Die Young? One thing I'll say is that the title track drags a little. Not among their better epics, but the ending instrumental part is great.
Seventh Son for me is greater than the sum of its parts. I'd choose a lot of their other songs over most of the tracks on there, but it's by far my favorite Maiden album
>>130466693>and the repeating chorus was kind of lameOne of Iron Maiden's worst tropes, it was alright on Seventh Son but it became insufferable on Fear of the Dark
what does /trad/ think of Pentagram?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQwQ9ta2FKs
Hellish Crossfire doesn't get enough love. The entire album is fucking packed with riffs. https://youtu.be/NUjogbdFVeghttps://youtu.be/HjZYqWUYJyshttps://youtu.be/qM1RYZ_nSvg
>>130473054Not from a /trad/ perspective, but the humble little Walk in the Blue Light always fascinated me. Avoids all doom, alll heavy tropes, and sounds like something that would come out 15 years later on SST, maybe with the involving of Mike Watt.https://youtu.be/tu1cBxvJGBk?is=rpaedKQlWlFLD7ea
>>130474680That's one of my favorite songs by them too. The entirety of First Daze Here is amazing and I put it on par with their debut as their two best releases.
>>130454843Sabbath was pretty goated from '77-81
>>130458245The Prophecy is one of their greatest songs.Gun to my head, it's actually my favourite off of 7th son.It always bemused me that it's often highlighted as a weak link, especially factoring in the album's conceptual ambitions, and seeing as the lyrics really strongly resonate with 7th son's overall thematic identity.Even aside from the acoustic outro, the song has one of the more unique classical-inspired melodic approaches in the bands repertoire with a thunderous driving rhythm and desperate operatic vocal performance, and it's a shame they've never played it live. Bruce probably couldn't belt out the almost tormented, howling vocals like he did on the album, especially with the pre-chorus panning vocals, and the (what I presume is a) very dramatic key modulation leading into the chorus, but it'd be great to see. Strictly talking about 7th son, I think the album's weakest tracks are actually The Evil That Men Do and Only the Good Die Young, despite the former's popularity. Maybe they fit into the vague storyline approach that loosely functioned as the album's connective tissue, but I always thought The Evil's pre-chorus repetition was low-effort and lame, and the overall function of the lyrics served the aborted attempt at the storytelling rather than emphasising the general themes of psychic transcendent abilities and future sight etc. I get why the track is popular, but it's also clearly the default attempt at making a Run To The Hills/The Trooper style galloping huge chorus hit and feels untethered to the rest of the songs. I also reckon the album would have worked better if the titular track was the climax at the end, rather than Only the Good, which is both too similar in structure/pace to the preceding track (The Clairvoyant) and just not as interesting as it as well.
>>130473054day of reckoning is one of the best albums of 1987
scorpions - we let it rock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv4kitGcTH0
I don't understand people who say they don't like Iron Maiden album x or y. They all sound almost the same. They have the same style, and it's better than many other bands, especially the other nwobhm bands. I was listening to No Prayer for the Dying, a "hated" album, and it was actually pretty good - if you like Killers why wouldn't you like this? Now I'm listening to the song The Book of Souls and it's also good. If you like Powerslave why wouldn't you like this? Musically it's basically the same.
>>130480350Damn this is hard! I was expecting them to wuss out but this is good.
>>130453222This: >>130454522 >>130457339The chorus has that weird major scale riff that just sounds goofy and childish. The rest of the track, while somewhat upbeat, still has lots of energy and is actually quite good and catchy.The song has grown on me over time btw and is one of my favorites on the album.
>>130411484>This album is so generic and lame. It's like it was created by AI.That's what all of his music that I've heard sounds like. He did have awesome custom ESPs.
>>130411484Never heard of this guy before seeing him constantly shilled on here. Who is he? What he play?
>>130481114Because of the bloat. Your Book of Souls to Powerslave comparison - book is over 10 minutes, slave is 6 or so. In the particular case of Book of Souls song, Id say it's length is justified, because it uses its time to paint a picture and tell a story, plus uses the standard Harris formula of intro > build-up > pay-off >outro.But the last 3 Maiden albums each have several very long songs that just have no reason to be as long as they are. There's so much fat on Senjutsu and Book of Souls that makes them drag needlessly. That's really the reason people have been turned off from the newer albums. Unjustified song length and repetitiveness. That and both the last 2 sound horrible in production. It's mind-blowing how good Powerslave, Somewhere and 7thson sound compared to Book, Senjutsu and even FF, and those 3 were recorded some 35 years ago.I give big kudos to Harris for sticking to his own stubborn vision and not caring what anyone would think, certainly knowing that the reviews and sales wont be as big as for the older albums, and just pushing through, but songs like Lost in a Lost World and Shadows of the Valley are just a pain to get through.>No prayerI dont really hate it, it's a fresh one, more Rock n Roll and simpler. I think that's the reason its panned, its just stripped down, basic Maiden. No synths, no epic historic themes, no prog elements, maybe besides MRussia, no live production, from stage outfits to jeans and leather jackets. And no Adrian to be an autistic perfectionist when it comes to sound and tone. It sounds raw and more aggressive, which isnt bad, but if only it had stronger written songs. Fear is literally NoPrayer.2, just has a bit of a better sound and the songs are just better written and structured.The Assassin, Public Enemy, Tailgunner, Hooks in you, No Prayer, Fates Warning are cool though. Just not that amazing or memorable.>>130478620Fucker just cause of you Im gonna play through Prophecy several time
>>130481159much of savage amusement is on the wussier, more commercial side but there's still some heavy in there. honestly, i find the commercialism of that record kind of overstated. it reeks of hairspray and aquanet like pretty much every other rock album from 1988, but sonically it's the logical followup to love at first sting.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMefMkijjVk
This shit is bussin.Highly recommended.
>>130459719Not really a hot take since Painkiller is the album where they finally decided to become a full-fledged Metal band. They always wanted one foot in Metal and the other foot in Rock/Pop radio friendly stuff.
>>130482398>This shit is bussin.does it have a license?
>>130482470Stop it.
>>130481760>not caring what anyone would thinkYet everybody I know characterises Maiden as "punk metal". That it was infused with punk. Either they misplace the influence of punk on NWOBHM, or someone is contradicting.
>>130469569>writes song called Moonchild>steals the Moonchild riff for 2 Minutes to MidnightBRAVO HARRIS
>>130401071starts off great but loses steam by the end. but the first four or so songs are great melodic metal in the same vein as dokken. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CB_U0Fh8OMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7hQvEBvoVA
>>130482611Both of those songs were written by Adrian and 2Min comes 3 years before Moonchild
>>130482605>Maiden as "punk metal"This can only be because the first two albums are punchier, faster, shorter, had a punky singer and shitty, punk-like sound quality. Harris himself has said many times over that he dislikes punk and doesnt consider Maiden as punk whatsoever, other than acknowledging Dianno was a punky-sounding singer.Soon as Dianno was out, Maiden went full on opera with distortion. The reason those people you mentioned are characterizing Maiden as punklike is because they're the cool edgelords that only acknowledge the first 2 records
>>130483484Are you for real anon? I meant Rory Gallagher's Moonchild
>>130483758Rory Galawho?
Thoughts on Crimson Glory's sellout album? It gets shit on pretty consistently but I think there's some decent stuff in there. Good production and performances - Midnight sounds really good on the more commercial stuff. It's not quite hair metal but not too far off - very Zeppelinish in places but also not really like the MTV Zeppelin clones like Kingdom Come and Bonham. I've also read people comparing it to Badlands I don't agree with that at all, even the fairly minor prog leanings they retain make them sound different.
Good morning! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObrhmPNg2C0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epgnCapPo-MSuch a good song. Leagues above other 1981 stuff in heaviness.
>>130484218It's definitely not bad. It does have a few good songs on there. I like the title track.
>>130481760That and the mastering of the BNW onward maiden albums is some of the most atrocious hypercompressed. noisy shit I've ever had the displeasure of listening to.
>>130459719Sad Wings of Destiny is their greatest work thoughever.
>>130481700His every album:>Heavy metal song>9 generic hard rock fillers >10 minute power metal synth epic>Ballad>Another ballad or a 10 minute power metal synth balladHis guitar playing sounds like Dave Murray if he was on crack
>>130458245Eddie mascot looks ugly and puts me off buying one of their shirtsI don't like the satanic themes on notbPiece of Mind is an excellent and overlooked album
https://youtu.be/AsxvxnSSv5s?t=25What a badass song. Too bad all their songs aren't like this.
https://youtu.be/Ui8a8sqwVSw?si=8bqh-ubzosqAtjWhBeautiful day for some Saxon.
scorpions - another piece of meat (world wide live version) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kJwTcnoZV0listen to this shit man, it's like the original got injected with fucking cocaine.
This needs to be in the chart.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR5m9zki5Dc
>>130489704i'll change my mind and put in a vote for that one.
>>130489657https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_Vb7HeahrAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K2DtOLiwMIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjDFqZ-NcqU
>>130400409Devin Townsend - infinity
https://youtu.be/WTD_BSIITaI?si=m7uLfs07aZ1jm02CI fucking love Manilla Road
Hot take: Bathory's viking albums ARE /trad/ metal.https://youtu.be/W9V6LEgi0m0?t=174https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIN4gS-FbL8https://youtu.be/Z4Dr3HZltLg?t=75https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O85FBni_NkQ
>>130491393Bathory got included in the 1990 chart.
>>130491393Is this a hot take? I always assumed this; these albums owe much more to USPM and classic doom bands than to any extreme metal.
>>130491433>>130491467That's cool then, I thought people would consider them "viking" or "folk" and thus something separate from heavy metal.
>>130401071fantastic USPM, all killer no filler. seconding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPcT-Ky0yo8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgqM4DgsTdg
>>130401071not crazy about displacement and take this pain away but the rest is great. seconding. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mtmOK3oPiABlCcgfQbqaG3EEo-a9wLeDQ
>>130469891>How the fuck do you not like Infinite Dreams, The Evil That Men Do, The Clairvoyant and Only The Good Die Young?>One thing I'll say is that the title track drags a little. Not among their better epics, but the ending instrumental part is great.I liked the evil that men do, but I don't really remember the others.The thing is that moonchild has much catchier hooks.
>>130470501>One of Iron Maiden's worst tropes, it was alright on Seventh Son but it became insufferable on Fear of the Darkare you talking about the title track or other songs on there? Because I liked the title track a lot.
This is probably the happiest sounding motorhead song I've heard:https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=A6lg7PmdREg
>>130470501The lazy title/chorus-lyric repetition was already noticeable on some of their earlier classic tracks like Children of the Damned, Heaven Can Wait, Caught Somewhere In Time (which at least had the grace to change a single line in the climactic chorus), and 7th son, but by the reunion-era, it had become sort of a trademark that at least 2-3 songs on the album would feature Bruce just pointlessly bellowing out the title over and over again during the chorus. Shit like Brave New World, No More Lies, For the Greater Good of God, Satellite 15... The Final Frontier etc. are just inexcusable.It's annoying because many of these songs are actually among their best, and you get the sense if they maybe included a lyrical counterpoint or anything it'd make them that much better.I think Out of the Silent Planet probably has the single most instances of the title being used in the lyrics.
>>130497364I'd genuinely take Bruce just shutting the fuck up and these songs having literally no chorus over this trend.
>>130401071The world needs more surf metal/crossover.
Part of what makes trad metal comfy is that it doesn’t get memed. Any time I see some reddit tier Facebook meme about a death or black metal band it makes me like that band slightly less. Imagine seeing some normalfag meme about like, Cirith Ungol or something.
>>130498257If it's that easy to get under your skin you have other issues anon.
Which is the best track off of Powerslave? For me, it's the eponymously-named title track, Powerslave.
>>130498679Powerslave>Rime>2M2M>Aces>Duellists>Flash>Village>LosferVery tough choice between the top 2 though. Powerslave actually took me ages to get into because initially it came off like some gimmick circus-ride Egyptian tune with an unconventional chorus. The instrumental middle section adds a great unspoken pathos to the malicious grandeur and arrogance of Bruce's little tale.
>>130499039It is not a tough choice between Slave and Rime: since the latter is 20 minutes long, it will lose every time no matter how equal it is to the former. It is the Egyptian riffs that make Slave so outstanding, though they may have copied the idea from Mercyful Fate.
>>130499636I stand erected: though Curse of the Pharaohs was 1983, even Creeping Death was released a few months before Powerslave.
>>130491393From Hammerheart onwards their Manowar influence became very prominent. Liste to this and tell me it doesn't sound like pure Manowar worshiphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLlaZPbBvEw
>ONLY THE VULTURES WILL COME TO SEE ME HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANGhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IDNY2mvnDc
>>130498679aces high. the triumphant opening riff going off like a bomb, the manic riff before the pre-chorus, the dueling solo, bruce's vocals - it's all perfect.
>>130499831There are even more blatant examples. Have a listen to these choruses back to back:https://youtu.be/n5q1cHGmN3Q?si=eMM_gZu5gEN44v5Hhttps://youtu.be/md1P5veDdSU?si=5G6Wl36jBXaQl2vn
how do you feel about metals big 3 right now
>>130500876You left off The Warning.
y&t - hang 'em high https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfP0-XJEdYcone of their few songs that really go all-in on heavy metal. it's similar to iron maiden or other melodic nwobhm from the time. solo towards the end fucking RIPS.
>>130401071This album is so fucking good, been a fav of mine for a while. I guess it's kind of a 'black sheep' in their discography considering its the only one without Schmier (not counting those late 90s albums which the band themselves disowned lol). But I really like the vocalist Andre on this one, maybe even more than Schmier, he sounds like a more manic, crazed version of him which matches the vibe this album is going for perfectly. Also the riffs and solos are really unique. Like I've heard a lot of thrash metal but this one always stands out to me. This and 'Release from Agony' was the peak of the band, I honestly prefer them over the early stuff (Sentence/Infernal/Eternal).
>>130502113And I forgot to add, I even like the 'My Sharona' cover, I think I enjoy more than the original. Sue me idgaf
https://youtu.be/OQxMCXemfe4Is this WORST cover song ever put out well-respected metal band ever? It's not some live show jam or some EP bonus track, it's smack in the fucking middle of their 3rd full-lengthIt's so fucking terrible, seriously what the fuck were they thinking. It honestly makes me lose a little respect for Gene Hoglan, the fact that he recorded this and listened to it and still decided to publish under his name
I really, really dislike Van Halen. I don't care how much of a hero he was to bedroom kids with his sick ass guitar technique. Man was guilty of the ultimate sin that is writing basic pop while being completely incapable of writing a single catchy hook.
>>130502365>while being completely incapable of writing a single catchy hook.ain't talkin 'bout love is one of the few choruses that comes into my head at random. panama to a lesser extent, too.
>>130502113Have you ever listened the vocalist's main band? I'm a big fan of thrash metal released post-1986 and I think their debut is an exemplar of that trend of thrash albums being darker and more complex
>>130400399I played through this album on guitar today. It's great. Aces is an awesome opening, Rime is an epic finisher and the stuff in between is awesome. Duellists is a gem I enjoy playing a lot. Awesome solos. Definitely a contender for their best but personally, I think that title goes to Piece of Mind.
>>130401071Can't go wrong with Boals on vocals, LePond on keys, Rhino on drums, and some literally who on guitar.
>>130500876What the hell is the bottom
>>130502818That's some mighty fine album art.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01vXSgoLsWM
>>130498145What is this?
>GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND CANYONS
>>130511413OF SPACE AND TIME UNIVERSAL
>>130511413>>130511638>I know what I am I'm BerlinCool song and all, but what the fuck do the lyrics mean?
>>130511924i always assumed it was about someone breaching the berlin wall and escaping under it, hence the>punch>crawlpart of the chorus
https://youtu.be/6F7oCy5Xlkc?si=XmTd4F7PBc9qJr8O
>>130511924Sus. It is the force of nazism that lives on. That's how I always have interpeted it. I am not trying to troll, I love /trad/ukai>>130513086Maybe it's that
>>130401071A side is bonafide love rockGreat musicianship, true to rock, if you are into blues-rock it's like a next step to it with glam edges. Good album. Saw the video clip for Stay in a rock club and it has since been with me, finally decided to check out the record.
>>130511223Band is Amphibian Man doing surf metal covers.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBXvBCydGX0
>>130499039losfer words is pretty good.
asphincter saysbump?
What's the plan with the '98 chart
>>130520600five slots left, and eight 2 votes to choose from. >what's the plani fill it up and finalize it, then we take a break from the yearly charts until the thread after next.
>>130400409>>130520909Solstice - New Dark AgeRage - XIIITarot - For the Glory of NothingJag Panzer - The Age of MasteryNingen Isu - Taihai geijutsu ten
>>130520971counted all of these, finalizing now
Why did they rerecord Somewhere Far Beyond which was fine, instead of this album, which could actually be improved.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtxvZNxDFNA
1998's chart is finished! as i said before, we'll be starting 1999 after the next thread.
https://youtu.be/R_TAHElTp3g?si=l0UV4p4fuAduoT4z
>>130511924How I interpret it is that the lyrics are from the point of view of the city of Berlin itself, witnessing the violence happening within it. The line "hooks to my brain are well in" is referring to the wall.
>>130521301Absolutely pointless re-recording. If they did the first two albums, it would have been more interesting. Those songs always sounded more powerful live.
This is so much better than most of Death's discography. Amazing album.
>>130511924>>130513086>>130524904I read in an interview that Halford came up with that line while touring in West-Berlin and standing at the city's river, looking into East-Berlin which he said looked dark and empty, while West-Berlin was lively.I don't think it means much of anything other than that Berlin is grungy and rough which makes the lyric sound badass.
>>130502265I cannot think of a single post 60s album that is improved by having a random cover song on it. It almost always ruins the flow of the album too because the style of the song that is being covered is usually very different from the album's originals.Worst is Death's Painkiller though imo.
>>130525312definitely gayer than tsop
>>130525312>both Chuck and Tim are gone now
>>130525576aids is a hell of a disease
>>130525448>Death's PainkillerI actually love Chuck's vocals on it, though I'm a sucker for high pitched shrieking
>>130401071I have always loved this cover. Though the album doesn't sound nearly as mean as it looks (maybe that's what they meant with the title...) it does have some nice rockers in therehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmz3ieKd92Qhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNDTaLio9lghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_0HYdx7Oz0
>>130525798>I'm a sucker for high pitched shriekinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPOcenekEoU
Listening through this for the first time. Excellent vocals though very different to Midnight, Wade Black sounds extremely similar to Ripper Owens. Songs are generally good though a few dodgy attempts at sounding modern. Fucking terrible use of a drum machine though, I don't know if was due to budget limitations or what but it's extremely distracting.Apparently they were planning on rerecording the album with Midnight before he drank himself to death.
>>130526311Amazing. That reminds me, and it's also relevant for >>130502265 and >>130525448, if you want to listen to some brilliant covers check out the Venom tribute album Promoters of the Third World Warhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9eWNYjKXbupzO_HDEujy84thai4OmlOWEvery band does their own unique take on each song and they are all worth listening, the highlight being the Live Like An Angel cover
>>130525448Not even Diamonds and Rust?Candlemass' Sabbath medley?
>>130525448Sabbath's debut has 2 covers on ittechnically Dehumanizer has one too
>>130527659>Dehumanizer has one too?
>>130526904Oh that's nothing, check this one out.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIkEyexXXJ4I will the one you posted, cheers anon.
>>130527770*i will check out the one you postedjesus....
>>130525917It comes from a book on life in Glasgow, the phrase itself is from the Acts of the Apostles where it is used by St. Paul to refer to Tarsus.
>>130525448>Worst is Death's Painkiller though imo.Yeah that one is painful to listen to I'm not a fan of TSOP at all either, it's definitely my least favourite Death album. I mean it's not even meant to be a Death album, it was initially for Control Denied and forced to change name by record label bs. It has some cool riffs but the songwriting is a mess, Chuck was trying too hard to sound 'progressive'
>>130530908>Chuck was trying too hard to sound 'progressive'It does sound like that a bit and I think he was still figuring out the sound he wanted. Control Denied was an improvement on TSOP and I think that if he had been able to do a second album he would have improved that sound even further.
>>130401071Riot is great. Posting one of my personal favorites in the genre :https://youtu.be/ucV8H-oPgsg
>>130527719Master of Insanity was originally recorded by Geezer's solo bandhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pB_yWFJyX0
>>130401071https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABMCUGMza98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoGxAeJ_WQE
>>130525917claim to fame's riff is really fucking cool, like miss misery but heavier and more metallic. >I have always loved this cover.honestly if you were to remove the nazareth logo i wouldn't even be able to tell it's an album by them. that's nothing like their previous covers.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=XwNerROAJREEEEEEXCALIBUUUUUUUR
>>130535319I saw Grave Digger live once and I had that riff stuck in my head for days afterwards
What even counts as trad metal tho? Does speed metal count? Does doom metal? Stoner metal? What about a band like Anthem or Loudness?
>>130538540All "yes"
>>130538540to me, it's heavy metal, trad doom, speed metal and uspm
>>130538540The pastebin in the OP mentions the genres that are deemed acceptable for this general
>>130528694I was making a joke kek, but thanks for the bit of trivia.>>130533667Yeah that cover looks like something you'd see on a mid 80s metal album, actually just looking at it makes me want to listen to some speed metal.
>>130535319https://youtube.com/watch?v=iV4p2kecjUo
>>130538540Anthem or loudness are quite literally the perfect definition of trad metal
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WtwXF38IqLM>Joan Jett singing a trad metal song in 1977Why the FUCK didn't she go down this musical route instead?
Shill me some Anthem, I know they're big in Japan but the only thing I have of theirs is that album with Graham Bonnet that I, as I understand it, is basically a Greatest Hits re-recorded in English. Plus that album of Castlevania covers the bass player did.
>>130407145I was very very happy desu. Nu Metal was the third incarnation in of fake metal (glam, groove, than Nu) that being said the shit that took its place (twinkcore and mall emo) was equally if not significantly worse
>>130543456getting a lot of early priest and scorpions vibes. really dig this part http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtwXF38IqLM&t=167s>Why the FUCK didn't she go down this musical route instead?$$$. sucks because this is way better than anything i've heard from both the runaways and solo joan jett. she really sings well on this song.
>>130543490Their first record is great
>>130543490https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC94O1VPnkkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8V1aa79hDMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2lJ7c2g5-I
Deep Purple in Rock > Black Sabbath s/t
Is pic related and their 1970 - 1974 run in general trad metal approved?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12D0tMzxH4A
This album is so goddamn well produced. The crisp, John Bonham-esque snare is probably one of my absolute favorite drum sounds and the guitars sound so goddamn crunchy. Feels like Saxon's later material actually got worse production-wise.
NO CHAIN OF EVENTS CAN SHACKLE HIM DOWN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scABPxqkGRM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdwK5CyqaD0ALL IT TAKES JUST ONE TOUCH OVER ONE, TWO, THREEWITH A FLICK OF A SWITCH TURN ON WORLD WAR 3WITH A FLASH THERE WILL BE NO ONE LEFT ALIVESEARCH THE EARTH JUST TO FIND WORLDWIDE HOMICIDEEVEN IF YOU'D SEEN IT YOU NEVER WOULD BELIEVE ITAND EVEN IN YOUR SLEEP YOU WOULD NEVER DREAM ITTHE BOMB IS FALLING FAST, NOTHING'S GONNA STOP ITHOW WILL YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE THE LAST MAN ALIVE
>>130400409This album starts of so well with 'Bloodbath', an awesome song that could absolutely belong on the first 2 albums. If they had kept that same quality it could've been one of the best OG-lineup comeback albums ever. Unfortunately the rest of the songs range from mildly entertaining to straight up boring...real missed opportunity
>>130546378Phenomenal record, although I probably prefer Strong Arm of the Law a little bit. Saxon at their best were untouchable.
>>130546137Don't know but it's probably one of the greatest records of all time.
Running Wild are so fucking good
https://youtu.be/EwtI07imlq0?si=V87xbujffxySzmkK
>>130545765do people argue otherwise? every song on in rock is perfect. i really like black sabbath's debut but the evil woman cover just isn't that good, and side B is good but kind of throwaway imo.
KNOCK 'EM DEAD, KID!(KNOCK 'EM DEAD!)WELL KNOCK EM' DEAD, KID!(KNOCK 'EM DEAD!)WELL IT'S A T-K-O!THE BLADE IS RED, KID!(KNOCK 'EM DEAD!)KNOCK 'EM DEAD, KID!(KNOCK 'EM DEAD!)
>>130554125There seems to be a general consensus that Black Sabbath is THE perfect metal album, but I always thought it was inconsistent. Their next three albums are all better, as is In Rock.
>>130554468i don't get that at all. because i've listened to their debut plenty of times, and every single time that i do i don't leave it thinking "oh, that was a masterpiece! one for the ages." i think "wow, that first half was fantastic!" and forget about the entirety of side B besides that kind of cool, swinging riff in the warning like 7 minutes in and the beginning of sleeping village. >Their next three albums are all better, as is In Rock.i actually think that vol. 4 is on a similar playing field to the debut. plenty of hits, but there's a few songs i just don't care for.
Very underrated, ripper of a debut.
>>130400399tell me why i had to be a powa slavedugga dunna dun du nu dugga du nu nun duggadunna nunna nunnua nunanunawtf is a powerslave anyway? This stuff makes not cents
>>130554468I love it, and it's certainly a masterpiece, but Sabbath's other 70s era albums are just THAT GOOD, that they totally overshadow it for me.
>I wish I had a fortune>I'd take the pain away>We could be together>That's how we need to stay>'Cause you can change the world>The world in which you live in, live in>Suzie, hold onI love this song guys. The music is really simple even by Saxon's standards but the lyrics are beautifully bittersweet yet uplifting to me.
>>130466188based yngwie enjoyer
>>130556428Yeah same for me it's better than the vast majority of albums but I put the next five above it. I like it more than In Rock too
>>130401071I'm not sure if this is even metal anymore but I like it. Comfy album.
>>130554400>KNOCK 'EM DEAD, KID!For context to his post, the motley crue song:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjltjW8ebZM
https://youtu.be/Ts1z_Tx8aMQ?si=SqLK-7KUsBGYg-ht
>>130401071https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRYSlLLU0RE
is USPM worth getting into? I like european power metal and NWOBHM.
>>130568530Of course.
>>130568530of course. check out riot, savatage, manilla road, brocas helm, chastain, omen, crimson glory, slough feg, metal church and virgin steele stat
>>130568530Yes, here are some essentials.
>>130569668ILLUMINATI!
>>130568530>>130569079Another great chart.
>>130554468>There seems to be a general consensus that Black Sabbath is THE perfect metal albumNo, there isn't. What people argue is that it's the first heavy metal album.
Metal Church's debut is more speed/thrash than USPM imo
>>130568530YYYYYEEEEEEEEESSSSSS!!!!!!!!I'd go as far as saying that USPM is the humble upgrade to NWOBHM. I find it more interesting musically. Others have already recommended some great bands, I'd also throw in Heir Apparent.
>>130488178The satanic themes are easy to look past once you realize it's a description of a scary dream rather than some song praising the devil.
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>>130570376that’s the first time someone besides me has made one of these threads, good choice for an album
