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Tchaikovsky edition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-iKUtD5OaM

This thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.
>How do I get into classical?
This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:
https://rentry.org/classicalgen

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Take the Scriabin pill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RwqTKuRX8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmIDevUoPpE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV_7nOxeFi4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ_Dj0_sR5Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDTgj_69JKA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW6S_Oz4uag
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happy pride month /classical/
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>>130499539
I listen to Schumann btw
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take the Bolet-Liszt capsule
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuP4h8OlKZg&list=OLAK5uy_lkZjL0OJwMY-NWbt0zkv2qybQKx8dCd68&index=10
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>>130499539
Happy pride month!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfL9PTRLs9U&list=OLAK5uy_nZ4PJjPwylnuq2b1aFR8XI1JXTKbz16qA&index=5
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>>130499542
we all do
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>>130499538
Chopin at home:
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>>130499339
Thanks for the recordings, anon and thanks for using YT to share them, it's much easier to add the recordings to YTMusic this way. His transcendental etudes needed a few (almost ten) listens until it clicked properly but it was worth it.
>>130499412
Thanks, I'll try him next.
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>>130499610
meant for
>>130499384
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>>130499607
Chopin but with testosterone!
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>>130499607
More like the only worthy successor
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>>130499607
Chopin if he didn't have MEN fuck his ASS with their HUGE PULSATING PENISES and then ejaculate their THICK GOOEY SPERM into his ASSHOLE from their BALLSACKS
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Remember when Dave used to put a semblance of effort into his videos? Now he just spews out whatever's on his mind at that particular moment for <15 minutes and calls it a day.
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>>130499722
no, I don't remember Dave's brain ever putting effort into anything
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>>130499722
I look and smell like this.
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>>130499179
The symphonies.
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>>130499517
There has never been a single lgbt /classic/
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>>130499607
Kek. Scriabin is the discount Chopin
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>>130499610
>>130499339
Have you tried Chopin? Listen to the ballades, scherzos, sonatas no.2 and especially 3 and cello, barcarolle, polonaise-fantaisie and the nocturnes, waltzes etc.
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>>130499886
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6C2z385GfQ
This was written by Chopin to his fuckboy Tytus. Alongside his gay letters.
And it's beautiful.
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>>130499921
Disregard all of these and listen to his Preludes instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY5XmyDzhSs&list=PL_NUYmjdb-G_wF-7Zva91c1VNZk7MXOsg
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>>130499942
Preludes are among his worst - which isn't saying much due to high overall quality - so I wouldn't discard something like the peak of piano literature for that.
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>>130500205
>Preludes are among his worst

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA - I mean, I know this is 4chan, but - HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
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>>130499902
More like better than Chopin lolz
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>>130499921
I'll give chopin a try too. I only listened to his waltzes performed by Lipatti. It was pretty good. I'll try some more stuff.
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>>130500256
just a bunch of short silly piano pieces. their only use is for getting people into classical
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>>130500383
Short pieces don't have less value than epic ones
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>>130500389
ADHD cope
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>>130500389
NTA, but length allows variations, development, harmonic planning, and so much more of what makes classical music appealing in the first place. It creates a rich structural tension and release, something that is missing in preludes and perfectly displayed in the ballades.
It's also why Beethoven's 9th is much more potent and important than his bagatelles.
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>>130500205
(You)
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>>130499548
Lkszt's Lunchatorium
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Don't let Wim Winters see this
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>>130500205
>piano literature
Just call it piano music you pretentious twat
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>>130500806
They liked having tempos they couldn't play?
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>>130500457
>structual tension and release is not present in the preludes
Are you deaf? Honest question.
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I have recently discovered opera for myself.
So far I have heard:

- Freischuetz
- Madame Butterfly
- Pirates of Penzance
- The Magic Flute
- Rheingold
- Fledermaus

I really like Freischuetz and Rheingold, Madame Butterfly is cool too.
Penzance is funny, but probably works better when you can actually see something, kind of like a modern musical. Already listening in on that infernal nonsense Pinafore.
Magic Flute was cool, albeit a bit too "light" musically, so to say.
I didn't like the Fledermaus. No idea if it was the recording, but it just wouldn't click.

Based on that, what other pieces should I check out?
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This general has ruined any liking for Chopin I might have had
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>>130501206
Honestly, good. Chopin should be gatekept.
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>>130501159
Rigoletto by Verdi
Turandot by Puccini
Pagliacci by Leoncavallo
The other operas in Wagner's Ring cycle (Die Walküre, Siegfried, Götterdämmerung)
Lucia di Lammermoor by Donizetti
Don Giovanni by Mozart (Not that much "heavier" musically than Die Zauberflöte, but it has heavier subject matter. Also, the final scene is among the "heaviest" things Mozart wrote imo.)
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>>130500939
NTA but it's pretty common to refer to some part of the repertory or another as literature because the "original text" of classical is the score. Not pretentious, it's quite literal actually.
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>>130500939
if you are not used to the term "literature" used that way you are obviously a newfaggot. it's common nomenclature in the classical world.
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>>130501277
Well make it less common, dickhead
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>>130501103
Are you suggesting the preludes have structural tension and drama comparable to the ballades? Some preludes barely even modulate. Isn't there a distinction between local modulations and distant ones? Why was sonata form even invented?
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>>130501214
He's not fucking gatekept, he's entry level stuff literally everyone has heard of and basically everyone likes, consistently very high (top 5) of most popular Classical composers
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>>130501365
why? because you are new?
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>>130501369
Yes. Modulation is not the only form of tension. Of course. No one sat down and invented sonata form one day.
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>>130501384
one time i put "wrong note" on in a midwest dive bar. I remember to this day the reactions.
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>>130501458
...which were?
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what did that Anon who listen to all those recordings of Chopin's preludes decide the best one was, anyway?
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>>130501493
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>>130501410
Why are you boasting about having wasted more of your life in this shithole? It doesn't make you as cool as you think it does
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Why is the chat always so aggressive? Chill, anons. Let's hold hands and listen to Mozart.
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Who has the best Mozart 40? Do we have to hand it to the K-God once again?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nYirSCbGqw
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>>130501591
God you are stupid. I meant being a newfaggot to classical music. I made that very clear, too. You are arrogantly insulting someone's use of a term which is of normal usage in places like these. "piano literature" is a common turn of phrase for everyone else here, talkclassical, youtube comments, and musical conservatories.
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>>130501217
thanks, I'll check them out
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>>130501652
Blomstedt
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>>130501652
https://theclassicreview.com/best-of/top-five-mozart-symphony-no-40-the-best-recordings/

Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra, Leonard Bernstein
Scottish Chamber Orchestra, Sir Charles Mackerras
English Baroque Soloists, John Eliot Gardiner
Columbia Symphony Orchestra, Bruno Walter
Concentus Musicus Wien, Nikolaus Harnoncourt

Hurwitz has Szell's.
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does anyone have the Sawallisch recording of Strauss' opera Intermezzo they can upload and share? It's not on YouTube Music. please and thank you!
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>shaves (one) time.
>Dies
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>>130501772
It's on rutracker.
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>>130501712
Yeah well believe it or not in real classical discussion like in conservatories they don't call people 'newfags' or use 4chan lingo at all, so it's pretty reasonable to assume you meant new to 4chan which is the only use that term is used in.

Yeah it's commonly used by worthless pretentious cunts like you. Knock it off
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>>130501570
It is clear to anyone that Cortot represented the soul of Chopin, better than anyone else. Argerich herself agrees:

>I love Gieseking and Cortot. Of the older people, Cortot is quite important for me... I am very interested in what Cortot says about 'The dispute of conscience which fills Faust's tormented soul in his search for truth,' in reference to the passages of Goethe's Faust that inspired Liszt's Sonata. Some people hate what Cortot wrote in his edition, but I think it opens up a lot of horizons like his playing did too. I don't believe that it works for everything. But for me, yes, for some things it does and well. What Cortot wrote seems very important.

Brendel:
>The last great Chopin player in the old sense was Cortot. His recording of the 24 Preludes from 1933 has to me remained a miracle. Throughout my life, it has never lost anything of its phenomenal freshness and daring. Meanwhile, Chopin, the bird of paradise, has been swallowed up by the musical mainstream

As so do many Chopin interpreters.
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>>130501712
>youtube comments
LMAO
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>>130501807
doesn't really matter when the sound quality is such dogshit
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>>130501805
>>130501277
>it's common nomenclature IN THE CLASSICAL WORLD
fucking retard
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>>130501790
good shout
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>>130501570
I forget, this is in order by tier, ye? So Argerich and Pollini are a notch above the rest?
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>>130501842
Cortot embodied the romantic soul itself, you don't truly experience the "romantic" of romatic music if you listen to someone like Pollini instead of Cortot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb45wt8RXco
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Brahms sits in his chair writing a small thank you to his friend schumann before a broccoli headed zoomer wagner 360 kick flips into the room, “hey old man listen to this!” Wagner skipidis an orchestra into the room, it sounds like shit.
>gtfo newfag!
Brahms says to the little 67 flossing faggot, beating him to a pulp. “Stop I’m gay!” Says the little wagner, Brahms continues to beat wagner to a bloody pulp as the audience cheers. “He really was the war of the romantics 2 return of the Jews.” Brahms washes off his bloody hands and returns to writing clara. “Lmao newfags are such queers lol” he jots down and looks back to the corpse. “Lol what a fag”
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>>130501872
It's more so that I would recommend Argerich and Pollini to anyone, the second tier to people who love piano music, and the third tier to real afficionados.
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>>130501855
Lot of pretentious people in the classical world
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>>130501917
smart and based
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep8vH01_49w

What the hell happened at 2:30? How did this get through production?
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>>130501984
At the risk of outing myself as a pleb... what are you talking about? That's just how Ashkenazy's piano sounds on that set. Part of the reason that, while I like it, I don't love it.
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>>130502120
The part from 2:30 to 2:40 sounds markedly different from the rest, as if they had used different recording equipment or moved the microphones.
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>>130501877
k
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>>130502146
I'm not an expert, so if you say so, I'll take your word for it. Again, I just always figured that's how the piano Ashkenazy chose sounded. There's similar bars of ugliness throughout the cycle.
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>>130502175
Hm, maybe you're right, I'm listening to No. 13 right now and the start reminds me of that passage in No. 11 sonically. Still, it was extremely jarring to hear for the first time, completely took me out of the music.
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>>130501984
>Ashkenazy set of Beethoven Sonatas
Pathethique.
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>>130502253
I've found it quite enjoyable actually, but I'll admit I'm not that well versed in Beethoven yet.
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okay I think I'm finally all Ring'd out. Now what do I listen to and get obsessed with? If only there were another late romantic German opera composer similar to Wagner and Strauss.
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>>130502270
It's a solid set, and a fine starter one. Not in my personal favorites but hardly one I'd rush to knock out of someone's hands if I saw them buying or about to listen to it.
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>>130501652
Karen's Mozart is terrible, so no
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>>130502281
Have you tried Weber, Marschner and Offenbach? Wagner liked Merschner's Der Vampyr and conducted it. I haven't tried the rest, but just giving you some ideas.
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>>130502613
Just Weber's Der Freischütz. It's unfortunately full of dialogue every other movement or so, if I remember correctly, yeah? Sad. I'll check out the other two, thanks.
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yet another falls for the trap of listening to opera for the music alone
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>>130502646
I will admit when I finally watched a performance of the Ring, the writing, poetry, and character development was much more impressive than I expected. But yes, I already read books during the day to get my fill of stories and poetry!
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Schumann

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKXlZfXSvqc&list=OLAK5uy_nRy27uoPYF5Hmv5G0esO9XBfesT-pVmDU&index=1

>This marvelous disc won all sorts of international awards when it was first issued a few years ago, and with good reason. Radu Lupu is a very special pianist. He doesn't record all that often, and he doesn't appear in concert all that frequently, either, owing to his reluctance to travel. He has long been regarded as one of the supreme interpreters of Schubert, but he is equally persuasive in this Schumann recital. He brings to this music his typically gentle, lovely piano tone, an acute sensitivity to the music's many moods, and most important of all, that sense of innocence and romantic poetry that gives Schumann's music its uniqueness. A great recording. --David Hurwitz

With a review excerpt like that, how can you not listen to this recording!?
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I wonder what the very favorite piece of each /classical/ regular is
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>>130502716
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc6UhirVWJc&list=OLAK5uy_nBjgFmzFcOf11Q2eF2w6GfY7D1WPrJsj8&index=16
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>>130502733
good tempo for it, most people play it too slow.
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>>130502716
Hard to settle for just one, but I can tell you, half out of top 10 would be of the same composer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqPN4gXy834
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Can we have a 20th/21st century music general separate from this one? All you guys talk about is the 1800s.
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>>130502803
>All you guys talk about is the 1800s.
Based.
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>>130502716
I don't know that I would call it my favorite, but maybe I'd call it the first among equals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uG-jjXAhrI
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>>130502716
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoIi5xb2k1c
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List of all /classical/ factions, some might consist of less than 2 people, many overlap, which is all fine. feel free to contribute and add more:

>wagnersisters
>chopincels
>scriabincels
>hisster sisters
>BABIAA lunatics
>romanticucks
>mahler fanatics
>mozart overraters
>bruckner rednecks
>hurwitz midwitz
>christcuck bachspergs
>ligeti spaghettis
>opera geezers
>SVSchizos
>conservatory fiends
>that lonely "kill yourself" guy
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ugh there's nothing worse than forgetting the name of a performer (in this case a pianist) so the only way to find their name is to look up the pieces you know they recorded and scroll through hundreds of recordings, hoping their name catches your eye, and then when that doesn't work, you try another work, and repeat
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>>130502291
Which is your recommendation?
Also should one start from beginning to end? Or select prices throughout?
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>>130502839
>romanticucks
This is 98% of this general.
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>>130502852
Any one of these. Top row for older, bottom row for more modern. And I usually start from the beginning, but I've learned to really, really love the early sonatas. In the earlier days, like where you are, I didn't as much, so I would start around Moonlight or so. So up to you.

For an immediate rec, I'd suggest one of these three, all three sets are 10/10, and are great starter sets

Annie Fischer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BfX7f9ylfk&list=OLAK5uy_mJBG-0UYD6UZt9tqrqzP2FvO2oiHqmEO0&index=46

Gulda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUygzJ_xlJA&list=OLAK5uy_m_afPa6Mlu26qm3BjKrYKKDCFhkrLRxAo&index=17

Kempff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTb1B2mfTP8&list=OLAK5uy_lowJ7A-_OwhKXbvLXumHGiYFPcPSHR-xo&index=51

Hope you enjoy!
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>>130502852
Ignore other answers: Schnabel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh0ZHpHJQMQ&list=OLAK5uy_nAhCN3XyQsr1XcnT0CcI8xtOF_pbPW2KQ&index=20
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>>130502918
and to think I was gonna make a post inb4ing Schnabel but I decided against it because figured you must have gone to sleep by now. Can we not recommend newbies old ass hiss sets? please and thank you. if once you're into things, you wanna recommend it then, fine.
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>>130502935
stop policing this
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>>130502935
Don't worry kitten, they can listen and choose by themselves.
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>>130502716
Either one of these are my desert island pieces.
Chopin Prelude 19
Poulenc Intermezzo 3 (118)
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>>130502952
>>130502958
Hey, when they say "ignore other answers" I gotta fight back!
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>>130502839
You forget about the Brahmscucks but then again they are always falseflagging to make Wagner look bad.
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>>130502989
I noticed I always forget Brahms exists, despite him supposedly being one of my top favorites. It's almost like he's irrelevant by nature, eternally mogged by Wagner.
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One time someone asked for a rec, and I suggested a highly acclaimed historical set that I wasn't actually familiar with but was next in my backlog, because I had spent a lot of the day reading about it. Later that night, when I listened to the set, I was astonished and turned off by the poor sound quality, and to this day I feel bad about making the recommendation. I would not be surprised if it turned them off of the pieces entirely. I hope not!
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>>130503003
I don't understand the whole Brahms v. Wagner thing, to me they didn't even work in the same field, for opera composers seem to be doing their own thing. It's like comparing Debussy and Godard or Poulenc and Picasso.
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>>130503028
Read about war of the romantics, progressives vs conservatives.
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>>130502970
Why would you take a short piece to the desert island? Wouldn't you rather have something with a lot of material in it?
What's so special about prelude no.19 anyway? I'd understand if you said the whole prelude or etude sets. I don't get it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQeZCp2d4WA
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>>130502839
>mozart overraters
it is impossible to overrate Mozart
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>>130501747
>Gardiner
list immediately discarded; his Mozart symphonies are boring beyond belief. his orchestra is so soft the more dramatic passages sound like the soundtrack to a pillow fight
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>>130503074
Would we be allowed to take the full set? Lol.
Anyways 19 has such a simple serene beauty to it that nothing I've ever heard compares.
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>>130503356
I've noticed the top X lists on The Classic Review always seek to be representative of all the performance styles, ie HIP (Gardiner), HIP-adjacent (Mackerras, Harnoncourt), and traditional (Bernstein, Walter). I don't know if they do that because they genuinely have a balance of writers so the votes end up that way, or they intentionally try to represent every approach.
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>>130503356
>his orchestra is so soft the more dramatic passages sound like the soundtrack to a pillow fight
That's funny, and now I'm intrigued.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEaeG5pxE_w&list=OLAK5uy_n8wufQIttiCoAHrDWtFY8Wef8yL2g6V6I&index=2

kek yeah I see what you mean
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George Lloyd's Requiem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RlMfA63GJw&list=OLAK5uy_k4Os2IgxQC9O2qsCQ-i0NjROB0WqkpBg4&index=1
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>>130503356
To be fair his Mozart symphonies are widely known as terrible and his worst work. He's done a lot of good music though, espeically vocal music, incluidng Mozart operas.
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let's get HIP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ij3HxHnPuM&list=OLAK5uy_nXSaavjEVgIh6yGorxkDQxCbjCAKsbK80&index=11
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>>130502976
yeah, people who say "ignore other answers" to play up their own preference should fuck off from here
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>>130502716
Mengelberg's performance of Mahler 4 for me
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>>130502839
What is SVS?
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>>130503742
Second Viennese School, aka Schoenberg, Berg, Webern
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Does Mozart have...fans?
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>>130503898
He's rich enough to afford air conditioner.
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>>130503908
I think he was pretty impoverished actually
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>>130499517
who made better classical music? catholics? protestants? jews? atheists? eastern orthodox?
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>>130504121
It'll never cease to amaze me how often this topic comes up and how much some people care.
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>>130504121
Catholics and protestants in no particular order
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>>130504133
abrahamics will abrahamite
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looks like they're already reissuing the Hough/Litton Rachmaninoff piano concertos set. Seems a little soon but I guess it's been 22 years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCU7UgdkHfY&list=OLAK5uy_lgVzHhxfdv3NXjHGu_2cb1jEuh7RdahIQ&index=6
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Please rate my first chorale out of 10

https://vocaroo.com/1eEX51dkPy0D
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>>130504405
not bad. I can see it playing as an NES video game logo comes into view, or while at the weapons shop in the very same RPG
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>>130503898
many yes
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Anyone listened to these Kirill Petrenko/BPO Schoenberg recordings? There's even one of an oratorio named Jacob's Ladder I wasn't familiar with before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_ciCg5htS8&list=OLAK5uy_kY4pJ_l43Jg8aZ9T7NnEv60tSURnO3tyA&index=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZNkJrG6pMo&list=OLAK5uy_khDsYofvPbEDkQAOPPe7UdrL7FwNddhz4&index=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWqntX_XM-U&list=OLAK5uy_lXe2YM5BxHwrcNFZ3f-Q5cnUq3kzO3F2A&index=1

info from the BPO website,
>Provocation! Anarchy! Scandal! All too often we encounter Arnold Schoenberg in writings as an enfant terrible, as a radical innovator who sacrificed late Romantic tonality for his highly complex system of “composition with twelve tones related only to each other”. In this edition, the Berliner Philharmoniker and chief conductor Kirill Petrenko demonstrate that in Schoenberg’s music “heart and brain” – as the composer entitled one of his essays – are in fact in balance, and that the twelve-tone technique is also entirely at the service of expression. Released in the aftermath of the 150th anniversary year of the composer’s birth, it presents five central works that illustrate all of Schoenberg’s stylistic periods.

>As Schoenberg rejected repetition, his work is characterised by constant change. He sought a different expression for each subject: agitated passion characterises the lovers’ dialogue in Verklärte Nacht, sparkling humour the free-tonal Chamber Symphony. In the Variations, op. 31 – Schoenberg’s first orchestral work in twelve-tone technique, premiered by the Berliner Philharmoniker with Wilhelm Furtwängler –, each variation has its own individual character. The Violin Concerto (here with soloist Patricia Kopatchinskaja), on the other hand, written in exile in America, reflects the composer’s uncertainty in the face of a foreign culture, material shortages, and a world once again on the brink of war.
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>>130504528
>Die Jakobsleiter, another key work composed around the time of the First World War, impressively depicts the confrontation between a doubter and his God. Its twelve-tone nature becomes secondary to the poignant, almost existential experience that Schoenberg achieves through the precise design of spatial sound, among other things: the positioning of the main and remote ensembles that he demanded strikingly anticipates what can only be reproduced in our recordings today using Immersive Audio (Dolby Atmos).

>In addition to the recordings on 3 CDs and a Blu-ray, the box set designed by American artist Peter Halley contains a comprehensive accompanying book with in-depth essays.

https://www.berliner-philharmoniker-recordings.com/schoenberg-edition.html?___store=rec_en

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a31ivHgG16k&list=OLAK5uy_kAr4QlhJJzLirkciS6fiJUm88EjQ4ghe4&index=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fjm5hny-MI&list=OLAK5uy_m0d89o5wV-ISH51pddOk8FnkD3klYn1Os&index=1

If I'm not mistaken, they all came out last or this year.
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What would you say is your fav recording on sibelius 7th? or some set of his works? im new to actually curating a collection of classics (in flac usually) and i thought id get one of my fav symphonies while in at it
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>>130504894
>fav recording on sibelius 7th? or some set of his works?
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>>130504923
thanks, ill check it out, certainly seems easier to get a hold of. ive seen a lot of people praise bernstein as well, which i think is fair.

also random q, but is SACD worth it for classical, or is normal CD good engough?
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>>130504894
pic
>>130504923
second best
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>>130504977
best 7th & 5th
>>130504923
best set overall
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>>130504977
>turns out original >>>>> revision
Every. Time.
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>>130499517
I hate gays and would enjoy killing them.

that is my only comment.
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>>130504121
Protestants because historically speaking they are the whitest.
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>>130505285
so true sitser
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>>130505331
not sure what you mean, sister
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>>130499517
Fags die from AIDS. God laughs.
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>>130505365
God isn't real, chud
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>>130502839
I am or have at least caused five of those.
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What non classical music do you like (if any)? be honest
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>>130505420
>non classical music

oxymoron
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>>130505420
Brill Building pop
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>>130505420
Virtually all of it, except Usanistani music and anything from latin america that isn't folk
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How can a Furtwrangler recording from the 40s/50s beat a modern recording from today? It sounds so muffled and scratchy.
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>>130499539
happy pride!
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>>130505420
Jangle rock or whatever people call it like early R.E.M., Pavement, the Smiths, Wild Nothing, and a lot of metal like The Black Dahlia Murder, Morbid Angel, and Dissection
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>>130505255
Why? How did you get this brainwashed
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>>130505896
I need a scapegoat to seek to destroy for my life to have any purpose because as a below-average intellect, bloodlustful male human I only find purpose in destruction and not creation
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Music is not just a mere source of recreation. It is a huge battlefield where countless spiritual wars have been fought.

Wagner knew this obviously, which is why he spent his entire life fighting the evil forces of the demiurge. Wagner shielded the spiritual foundation of this world from messianic terrorists. These fights have been fought long before humans even existed, matter of fact even before the first self-replicating RNA (which mutated into DNA), these are the battles between form and shapes, between energy and void, between chaos and order. Wagner was creating spiritual knights through his music to fight the demons of void. Wagner gave it his all and thus why we are even alive at this point and not turned into mindless drones. This battle will ensue for an eternity.
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Remember /classical/, everything good and great about this world came from Wagner.
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>>130505971
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>>130501787
It's just like Samson's hair
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>>130506254
love ya
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>>130503947
He made decent money, he just spent it frivolously.
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>>130506254
>>130506267
Fuck out of here >>>/pol/
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>>130506352
stop raping children.
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>>130506375
Stop projecting, pedo
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>>130506352
im here
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>>130506382
enjoy hell, reprobate.
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>>130506388
>>130506389
low quality trolling
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>>130506382
stop paying men on grindr to use you as a cum dump.
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>>130506395
low quality individual, like all gays.
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>>130506395
ong
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nobody cares about your sissy fight, please stop arguing and go fuck yourselves.
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Personally, I quite enjoy listening ot classical music :)
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>>130506429
i am doing that right NOW!
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>>130504894
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi8HqrAgoHQ&list=OLAK5uy_nOLv4zy-48ttJhd_TzgSUO2w1dpiQEsj0&index=26
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>>130506413
Fuck off >>>/pol/
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>>130506614
Kill yourself.
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>>130506647
>>>/pol/
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>>130506650
Kill yourself.
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>>130506663
Are you going to spam now?
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>>130506687
This thread should be deleted and faggots like you need to be shot and dumped into a mass grave.
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>>130506713
Why don't you go back to your containment board >>>/pol/
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>>130506749
Why don't you go back to your containment board?

>>>/lgbt/
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>>130506770
Because I'm discussing /classical/ and not being a bigoted schizo.
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Currently playing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us0HRL4oYos&list=RDUs0HRL4oYos&start_radio=1
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>>130506922
Lupu is so good, particularly his Brahms.



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