Is it me or has the 90s aged really poorly? Nobody actually has any nostalgia for grunge or any of that stuff compared to previous decades of music or cares about it anymore and even hair metal has more nostalgia/kitsch factor.
>>130537825Metal probably peaked in the 90's.Also was a golden era for electronic music.
>>130537825The 90s is the best period of music ever. Grunge sucks.All of the hipster bands or artists of today are just copying the slacker rock, post-hardcore, post rock, twee, shoegaze, midwest emo, noise rock, idm, or drill n bass from the 90s. No one has created a fully new genre in 26 years, aside from brostep which sucks.The only legacy that sprung from grunge was nu-metal, butt rock, stoner jam band shit, and those bands sucked as much as grunge did, and grunge was just 70s aor/stoner/hard rock crossed with 80s metal.Drop d tuning destroyed popular rock music. Rock for the trailer park/meth crowd.
>>130537825Yeah the 90s fucking sucked apart from pop-punk and some House tunes at the end of the decade.
>>130537922>aside from brostep which sucks.Brostep is great and i'm always amazed at how metal and rock fans are the ones who hate it the most when it's incredibly metal/rock adjacent, it just uses heavy synthesizers instead of guitars.
>>130537825music about being a suicidal junkie doesn't really have as much aura to it as music about being a badass rock star party god, innit.
>>130537922>Drop d tuning destroyed popular rock music. Rock for the trailer park/meth crowd.for that you can blame on punk
>>130538025Not true https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_D_tuning
>>130537966Metal and Rock fans hate music that isn't self absorbed or hoe-scaring.
>>130537896>>130537922Class of 89 here. I’ll say this, the 90s was great for music, and almost nothing sense has innovated or done something new. That being said almost everything in the 90s was down stream of the 80s. All the genres people associate with that era (be it grunge, alt rock, gangsta rap, pop punk, death metal etc) all that shit existed on j the 1980s, hell even Nu metal was basically all derivative of Faith No More. I’d argue the 80s was the last decade of serious musical innovation (and cultural as well) all the 90s did was take shit was more underground in the 80s, and mass market it to normie suburbanites that shopped at the mall. I still remember walking into a hot topic for the first time in 95’ or 96. Seeing Dead Kennedy’s shirts at a mall retailer.
>>130538055Not as old as you, but yes, everything was downstream of the past, the 90s just took everything to the conclusion, and did it better. The 80s genres you are mentioning were popularish to begin, most of them had videos that aired on mtv, not truly underground or college radio level.Dead Kennedys and other hardcore bands were played on commercial alternative radio like Kroq in LA, and this was in the 80s, I have the playlists to know this.The hipster bands of today are aping the college rock of the 90s, who had maybe a max of 150 people who came to their shows in mid to large sized cities.I've never seen a Polvo, Drive Like Jehu, or Superchunk shirt in a hot topic, have you?
>>130537968>music about being a suicidal junkie doesn't really have as much aura to it as music about being a badass rock star party god, innit.tl;dr Gene Simmons was right all along?
Did you miss zoomers obsessing over 90s music in the last 6 years or so?
>>130538155You have a point. But bands like Polvo, Superchunk and Drive like Jehu, all great bands, but I struggle to see how what they were doing was really that innovative or original. It was all influenced by the college rock, noise rock and post hardcore of the 80s underground.
>>13053792290s is best period of music and grunge is good also. As for new genres, hyperpop and soundcloud rap unironically
>>130538304Only for fashion. Musically they're more early 2000s.
there's no dispute that underground scenes were drying up and there was a lot less of interest going on by 1997 than ten years earlier
>>130538593This. I’d say it was across the board in a lot of different scenes and subcultures too. I had friends and connections in a pretty diverse set of musical cohorts, and yeah by the end of the decade things were drying up. I think it was the internet that really killed the underground. It made everything so easy to access, took out to barrier of entry to be a fan or part of something. The Internet basically created the “funderground”
>>130538593Read Cuckgau's review of Sugar Ray's Floored. He makes that observation--there was a noticeable lack of interesting new bands around by '97. Better yet his review of Moon Pix where he correctly pointed out that the "new" trend in indie was exactly what indie eventually metastasized into, ie. utterly boring Starbucks background noise.
>>130538686Why that year tho? Was it like, everything had been commercialized or??
>>130537896the golden era of electronic was the 70s, 90s was the decade of alt rock
>>130538696it was kind of gradual and happened over the 90s, but underground scenes just ran out of gas so the music industry got desperate and had to invent fake subcultures like emo in a corporate boardroom
>>130537825grunge was nihilistic and nihilism is cringe since the sadboy era
>>130538686people had gotten too soft and middle class by the 90s for edgy music to still be possible
>>130537825>only thinks of the 90s as the grunge eraSurface level taste, you're a retarded tourist.
>>130537825i thought zoomers loved 90s shit
>>130538763I mean Emo was a real thing, it a style of music within the Hardcore scene, and arguable a subculture of sorts. I was there, living in a city with a pretty big scene, a few notable bands come out of. That being said the type of emo subculture that was sold at hot topic or whatever did feel very astroturfed, like it just kind of existed overnight. I remember the first MCR record being kind of a nothing burger, I saw them open up for Piebald and no one cared about them. Than one day in like 2003 or whatever they were the biggest band in the world and every teenage girl was "emo" felt really weird.
>>130537825>what is rave?
>>130538967can confirm, I'm a zoomer and I love 90s shit. No idea what OP is on about
Goth metal and death-doom ruled in the 90s. First wave post-rock and second wave emo are also things. Commercial grade electronic music also started sounding consistently good and didn't need Depeche Mode/Tears for Fears tier somgwriting to make up the deficit.
>>130538593Being in high school in the late 90s and out by 1999/2000 was awful. Too early and too late to be a part of anything decent. Everyone was a faggot wigger
>>130538918Cope fag. Zoomers are super nihilistic.. you prob rarely know anyone
>>130537825>Nobody actually has any nostalgia for grunge or any of that stuff compared to previous decades of music or cares about it anymore and even hair metal has more nostalgia/kitsch factor.That ain't truehttps://www.mensjournal.com/news/1991-iconic-no-1-grunge-album-suddenly-climbing-the-billboard-chart-almost-35-years-later
>>130539796what's the numbers once you exclude Indian bot farms?
I was born in the later half of '88. I was 11 by summer of 2000. I can say with all confidence that being a middle schooler in the 90s was absolutely fucking peak. You got to watch all sorts of music trends come and go without any real attachment to them, and then by the time you're in 7th/8th grade, you get peak metal/electronic subgenres, and that continues into the early '00s. I would not reroll, desu, senpai.
The '90s also had a lot of soul love songs that I wish they'd bring back. I'm tired of all the songs about break up, exes and hookups clearly made to keep people from pair bonding.
>>130539834by 2000 it was already looking bad, that was the height of nu metal and boyband slop
>>130537825>Is it me or has the 90s aged really poorly? Yes, it's (You)
The 90s were the last decade of innovative, groundbreaking guitar music, then all the god awful buttrock bands and talentless hacks like Jack White took all that and wrecked it.
the 90s aged best. rock, hip hop and electronic peaked there. you're just a millennial who perceives these things as old
>>130538055Televommunications act of 1996 destroyed music along with the loudness wars
>>130538700>the golden era of electronic was the 70s
>>130539864Yeah, the height of nu-metal is a good thing. Late 90s into the 00s was amazing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldGdFnvSCSQ&list=PL1769A4saL4KY16HsbBRuie0aK2gc1Ukzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9dsrmGG4_o&list=RD-9dsrmGG4_o&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ro1aHvhGec&list=RD6ro1aHvhGec&start_radio=1https://youtu.be/n7Zgz-8PsnA?si=nSXttBlMJ2v3aL2E&t=66https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR3qw4-GUQI&list=PL63A0EB302C5357F0&index=28https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvziPPpryv0&list=RDXvziPPpryv0&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edZUHGH5jOk&list=RDedZUHGH5jOk&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFpTHA9H6o4&list=RDMFpTHA9H6o4&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHKy7KOTN3Q&list=PLSbvuLg-8CjE1ud0l5BjPgZzyh6J_58fwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrAxmXDSiuA&list=RDJrAxmXDSiuA&start_radio=1https://youtu.be/pFS4zYWxzNA?si=TkoqLFBtPYWZ3QmL&t=23It's endless.
>>130539945nah it was just music running out of gas for whatever reason. industry consolidations have been a thing before, that wasn't the first time it happened.
>>130539988I think an argument could be made for it. It was emerging out of the predominantly experimental contexts of previous generations, was starting to see genuine novel exploration in genres like progressive rock, krautrock, and very early post-punk, but also wasn't making a push for commodification that the tech arguably wasn't ready for like in the 80s. By no means definitive, but it's a contender for the most developmentally interesting decade for electronic music.
>>130541583Stop talking shit and admit you haven't a single scoobydoo. You mong.
>>130538304It’s because we’ve reached the point where those that grew up in the 90s are now middle aged and old enough to be in positions of consequence. The 90s nostalgia bullshit is pushed by them so they can wallow in their own sentimentality and so they can sniff their own farts. some retarded zoomers fall for this crap and get convinced by this rose tinted nostalgia. Happened in the 10s with 80s rubbish as well. Was happening in the 90s with 60s and 70s crap.
>>130542852same Just to add the zoomies that do it want to larp as their parents.
