Holmboe editionhttps://youtu.be/Jn_qxvaTNBE&list=PL4D14bmfCxVUkK-iewV9Yrz_VJJBp4uLSThis thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://rentry.org/classicalgenPrevious: >>130686547
>albumblatt WoOgo fuck yourself
>>130717222What do anons think about Jesus Christ Superstar? Sure it's a rock opera but it's scored for a symphony orchestra and imo a pretty decent Passion.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZD9b-NRfN8
>>130717384Not sure wha this has to do with /classical/. Maybe try >>>/mu/ instead?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK7FqisavxU&list=RDbK7FqisavxU&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA2j4GykAl4&list=RDlA2j4GykAl4&start_radio=1
>>130717409>Dismiss Zelenkawdhmbt
now playingstart of Shostakovich: Orango, Prologue (Orch. McBurney) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W9Z5YHTbsU&list=OLAK5uy_mnZdeQOUcG7PHxVZCFyxJrGUa3rhf-zjA&index=2start of Shostakovich: Symphony No. 4 in C Minor, Op. 43https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bebx_uZKFJY&list=OLAK5uy_mnZdeQOUcG7PHxVZCFyxJrGUa3rhf-zjA&index=12https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mnZdeQOUcG7PHxVZCFyxJrGUa3rhf-zjA
>>130717981that's a chimp thoughnotwithstandbeit
>>130717992specifically, it's a shostakochimp
>>130718018boo
You would think there'd be more studio Tristan und Isolde recordings. Where's the one by Haitink? Boulez? Kubelik? Sinopoli? Perhaps even one by Abbado. And yet...
The two most important elements in music are it has slap and it has to cook; without those two features all is lost.
763 files on 181 folders for a total of ~63 hours of music. Yup, I think I'm just about ready to dive into Johann Baptist Joseph Maximilian Reger's oeuvre.
>>130718335Where does "is it a banger?" rank? Back when I was into playing Runescape and I watched Twitch streams all day everyday, I swear I heard that word a hundred times a day.>guys, you're gonna love this new song, it's a banger>viewer X wants me to play song Y... are you sure it's a banger?>artist B came out with a new track; it's alright, it's just not a banger like his old stuffand on and on
>>130718348That's 63 hours of Reger? Shiii--
>>130718348Maximum Reger
>>130718335Big Z slaps, cooks and bangs out counterpoint like a mfer
BWV 406https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ch_xYtvYKM0&ra=m
Carlos SEiXas huehuehuheuhuehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zirvkdNGl4A&list=RDzirvkdNGl4A&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk4miQ-UXM4&list=RDSk4miQ-UXM4&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEalLqcd1fg&list=RDAEalLqcd1fg&start_radio=1
>>130718371>>130718406And to think I could hardly find any lieder at all!
>>130718411but is it fire?
>>130718474Str8 fire anonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nAdVnAQ8n0&list=RD4nAdVnAQ8n0&start_radio=1
>kills wife>proceeds to compose banger after bangerlove this lil' niggy
I'm not part of the Bach, Handel, Beethoven, and Brahms crowd, I'm part of the Zelenka, Seixas, Biber, and Boccherini.
>>130718524We might ostensibly both be into classical, but we certainly are not listening to the same genre of music.
>>130718532I walk my own path anon.
did you guys peep the new Nelsons/Gewandhaus Mendelssohn cycle yet?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThLH3AuQQ8I&list=OLAK5uy_kWhld3LK3cCSh5EMzZv0QijUZ62ays4wQ&index=110
>>130718524>>130718557>I'm not like other girls, I paint my nails badly *on purpose*get a life
>>130718666His entire persona is to ragebait and troll. He even projects his own neuroticism to romantic composers. He'll never get a life, this is his life.
>>130718177Barenboim and Kleiber is all you need
>>130718561I heard it sucks so I haven't bothered listening to it.
Seriously, does Classical period chamber music get any better than Boccherini? I think not!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml_u9nQ__mU
>>130719331uh there's this little guy who wrote the Magic Flute...
>>130719340That's cool, but what about his chamber music?
>>130719350best String Quintets in the Classical era and some of the best Quartets too.A few great violin + piano duet sonatas.Clarinet Quintet and Concerto are masterpieces.And of course the best piano concertos ever.
>>130719331Schubert > Beethoven > Mozart > Boccherini > Haydn > rest.Of course, you can omit the first two if you think they're romantic (I wouldn't necessarily disagree), but Mozart is still GOATed.
>>130719369>best String Quintetsdoubt.jpg
>>130719374Yeah, I'd omit those two.
Why do concertos from Beethoven onwards look like this?>allegro: 20 minutes>andante: 8 minutes>rondo: 8 minutesSymphonies have some variation in lenght. Why are first movements in concertos always so bloated?
>>130719549Is that a bad thing? More is more.
>>130719573But why do symphonies not have this nearly as much? Usually the movements are all 10-13 minutes save for the scherzo
>>130719549That's not even true btw. Name 10 concertos that do this? Besides Chopin, Brahms and Tchaikovsky, most romantic concertos are of usual length. Can't really think of many that have 20 minutes long 1st movement.
>>130719584Symphonies are usually longer so I don't know what you're even talking about desu. The first movements may rarely be long because of how exposition repeat functions in concerto form, but I can't really verify your claim, symphonies are usually longer, including first movements.
>>130719584And one more thing I'd add: Beethoven famously shifted the weight of symphonies to the finales, but concertos remained in three-movements so the weight still had to be carried by the first movement, combined with the double exposition of concertos it made some first movements quite long.
What are some composers who aren't Mahler or Bruckner who wrote 20+ minute movements in their symphonies?
>>130719746BeethovenSchostakovichPettersonGóreckiVaughan WilliamsVilla-LobosSchnittkeNorgardMyaskovskyProkofievRachmaninoffGlièreKrenekLanggaardLloydSaint-SaensDavies
>>130719799I mean consistently. I know plenty of composers have hour long one-offs
>>130719820>>130719820Some of those do. Still more than 20-minute-movement-concerto composers.
>>130719593>Besides Chopin, Brahms and TchaikovskyBeethoven
>>130719906They said AFTER Beethoven....
What are some very sad pieces?
>>130720072https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd12LjWLoWQ
>>130720072Rach 2. Both concerto and symphony
Are there any furry composers or furry themed pieces?
>>130720887Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune
What tea is every composer? Mozart is definitely Darjeeling
The Keilberth 1955 Ring is so fuckin' good, it makes me sad we don't have the other historical rings (Krauss, Kempe, Knappertsbusch, Furtwangler) in equally stellar sound quality.
How do I get into Szymanowski? The couple of things I've tried (Mythes, violin conerto, and something else I can't recall) have been Debussyan chromatic sludge, but loopy, noodly and almost impossible to follow.
>>130718561His Mahler 5 was horrendous, yet he got the Opus conductor of the year award
>>130719746Shostakovich has many 20+ minutes symphonic movements
>>130721542>how do I force myself to like a composer I dislikeListen to other stuff
>>130721542Just keep on listening.
>>130721542>>130721572but if you absolutely cannot help yourself, you weirdo, listen to his stabat mater, symphony 4 and his 20 mazurkas I guess
>>130721572It's perfectly normal to not immediately click with certain composers/works and to end up loving them later, so I'm willing to try some other pieces>>130721585Thanks
>>130720072https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QPA3x5XAYY&list=PLJfMLvABt_T13OYEr006SXBoHQV3l4dgQ&index=30
>>130719593Field, Hummel, Paganini, Mendelssohn, Balakirev, Dvorak, Sibelius, Reger, Elgar, Skalkottas, Feinberg
Chopinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5MgGPsNDLM&list=OLAK5uy_kuq5Q9ycdGaXrnpKQwUzE9lVmOoDb4wRM&index=43
going to choir practice to sing r*ssini with a bunch of boomers in half an hour
>>130721867>FieldThe 2nd barely reached 19 minute mark. But alright.>Hummel?>PaganiniVC, but alright.>Mendelssohn???... Anyway, nope, 20 minute concertos are extremely rare. About half reach 15 minute mark at most, so do some of the Mozart concerti.
>>130721901have a good time!
>>130721970>goalpost moving>nuh-uhaigh, have a good day I guess
>>130722007I almost certainly won't, but thanks
>>130722038>goalpost movingWhere? How? Are you retarded?
You have ten seconds to justify your love of Wagner before you are castrated by a piano string
>>130722129I choose the latter.
>>130722082I said have a good day
>>130722226I accept your concession.
I've been going crazy all afternoon: I have this piece stuck in my head but I cannot for the life of me recall where or how it's called. it has dark sounding strings at the start kinda going like: https://voca.ro/1r9Bn9Wc7sxythe athmosphere sounds like https://youtu.be/YMrSPOWrYGA I think but with slower tempo and more sparse composition? at least the start which is what I remember.anybody might have any idea what it might be that I'm thinking of?
>>130722262You're welcome, now go play with the other toddlers
>>130722422Why, I didn't play enough with one already?
>>130722283>MP3 media source not supported. Please try a newer web browser!wtf? Try posting anothee because I can't listen to vocaroo
>>130722456I don't care what you get up to in your private time, pervert
>>130722583Thanks toddler, neither do I.
>>130722593>no uWow, even toddlers tend to be more clever than that
>>130722601Good point, toddler
Oh no, another /classical/ bicker! Anyway.
>>130722582https://vocaroo.com/16QB4QlnhU4HI meant something like this. I swear I can't remember what it is. (By no means I think those are the correct notes, I don't have perfect pitch)
>>130722761Try to remember more notes, this could be anything.
So what's the verdict on the new Mozart piece?
>>130722761>>130722283there's like a million pieces it could be lolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boP9bl3FoaEorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otRqaVL7dLoorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqjxlpzfND0hope you find it!
>>130722761>>130722283What about the Dance of the Knights ripoff from HxHhttps://youtu.be/1OJNzXxNLbk?t=18
>>130722915Interestingly, I thought maybe it was Shosta 5 but you linked 6, lol. And yeah, impossible to tell with just 2 notes.
>>130722943Funny enough, it could even be Shosta 8! lolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FYItK8JS4Q
Why do Schostakovich's symphonies all sound the same?
>>130722956https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J138w8wAWjE
>>130722915I'm not practical about classical music, so I doubt it's something not "mainstream". more than the notes, I'm fairly sure of the cadence being right, a more staccato hit followed by sustained note, and repeats>>130722928no, it's definetely not a reinterpretation of dance of knights..
>>130722986That's just the modernist-soviet aesthetic. They're all different but yes they use that same aesthetic. You want a composer whose symphonies actually all sound the same, try Myaskovsky with his 25 symphonies!
>>130722996Again, if it's stuck in your head, you gotta know more. Try adding all the notes you remember
>>130722996>>130722761This starts the exact same way but it's the wrong pitchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hfQpaePuxo
>>130722761maybe?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DR3bvkUCBA
They say parallel fifths are bad cause they're hard to singWhat if I don't want my music to be sung? What then?
>>130723104No one says that.
>>130723005>That's just socialist realism. Here, listen to the father of socialist realism instead
>>130723104Who's "they"?
>>130723113Shostakovich wasn't really socialist realism.
>>130722642>no u, no u, no!! u!!!
>>130723136Cute gif, toddler.
>>130723135You're right, he was just plain shit>>130723130The voices inside anon's head; be nice about it
>>130723155>You're right, he was just plain shit*teleports behind you*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlPC9CNsafUheh, nuthin personall... bourgeoisie
>>130723173Shit
>>130723109>>130723130>>130723155I'm not going to debate you on this Jerry. That is the reason 5ths and octaves are bad, that and it makes the lines less independent
>>130723093no, I dont think so...I just hope I'm not making a fool of myself and imagining a classical piece while it was a soundtrack for a film or something similar...
>>130723228But will you debate me on other Jerries? How about you debate me on this Gerry, or on that Gary?
>>130723228They *can* be hard to sing BECAUSE there is no independence of voices and notes blend into each other...Parallel fifths and octaves are "forbidden" only because of voice independence.
>>130723228>I'm going to continue talking absolute horseshit and not explain myselfAlright, suit yourself.
>Cute gif, toddler.
>>130723345Nice selfie, maybe try >>>/soc/ instead?
I FOUND IT
feels like a Hewitt WTC day (her 1997 set)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POYOA5_XQtg&list=OLAK5uy_lKhQS1LR5MRfGddW5F3VCa1dLr6PxAjf0&index=42
>>130722283https://youtu.be/msAS4Bu-uL8I am turbo retarded. Idk why I couldn't remember this. of course it was baroque, I only listen to that. this is my fav and I regularly forget the name of it ;-;
>>130723410go on...
>>130723306You can always educate yourself on this, Sanchez
>>130723455it was >>130723444I have no clue how I keep forgetting that its the Sarabande of Handel
>>130723354Stop being a janny wannabe And it's a drawing not a selfie, obviously. No human being looks like that, an all white white near featureless mass
>>130723444As soon as I saw your first post I thought it was Sarabande because that actually happened to me once. But the first vocaroo link wasn't working and the Strauss piece just confused me more so I gave up
>>130723534Thank you toddler.
>>1307235342/10
is everyone in this general under 20 or something?
>>130723814google "Peter Pan syndrome"
>>130723814google "Alice in Wonderland"
>>130723512Do you make up names for people you don't know like a schizo?
>>130723814google "Treasure Island"
>>130723814search "free software, Richard Stallman"
>>130723821>>130723851Both have the same actress
>>130724146those are books, anon
>>130724207They're films as well
>>130724253I don't know what you're talking about
