Rachmaninoff editionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88vv3IyMkhQThis thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://rentry.org/classicalgenPrevious: >>130770271
Beethovenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50NYuPNYwXo&list=OLAK5uy_noS0zigBN9bXTHuoYhaiwmSln4HTf21b4&index=1Much like with his piano sonatas, Beethoven's early string quartets have become underrated and overlooked.
>>130797316Just a tip: saying something it "underrated" won't attract much attention if that's what you're after. Post your favorite movements and bits, maybe you'll get someone interested then.There's better music out there, people aren't going to bother with music just because it's by Beethoven. They MIGHT be interested if you make a more detailed analysis or post the good bits though.
>>130797367I said it as a relation to a discussion the other day where some anons said Beethoven's early piano sonatas are not really worthwhile. I'm countering that narrative.
Parryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hDF97OJZP8&list=OLAK5uy_mS0MMz11vCRG7_VkZ0yq6MuxWK2B-dNag&index=1
>>130797396There is nothing to counter. You're either ragebaiting if that's what you tried to do, or failing at a simplest task.
>>130797503Just sharing some quality music I'm listening to, anon.
>>130797520>Much like with his piano sonatas, Beethoven's early string quartets have become underrated and overlooked.That's more than just sharing, anon.
>>130797574why are you acting like this
This Bichkov Mahler 5 is actually really good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_4Mr09czXU&list=OLAK5uy_kfWJspr5hfj-l90N68iw9iVtb8xWq5RD0&index=21I'm still a bit disappointed with the earlier symphonies on this cycle, but this 5th is a massive improvement, and I'm excited to see how the rest goes.
can we ban Romanticism from these threads? it keeps attracting retards and "people" under 25
>>130797604>check adagietto lenght>over 8:30baka frfr
do I dare to finally try the Gould Beethoven piano sonatas set?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnKT9w5Cvoc&list=OLAK5uy_lweFSuBtB1nA5H-bcecrtWdYeuXCVtuL0&index=20
>>1307976349:10 is wholly reasonable! In fact that's faster than the average.
>>130797643I would need to lose everything before considering checking out Gould's Beethoven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKP9uoVlGQkWow.... what a truly epic performance!
>>130797661well that's just because the average is unlistenablewish we had a good quality audio recording of something like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4TNrqJG-BA?is=E61i1faP4eFwxBS-
>>130797685dayumat least there's the Walter recording which comes in at a comparable 7:36
>>130797634>>13079766123 minutes is the ideal.
Might as well rename it to /mahler/
fuck it, i'm bored, i'm always a fan of unfamiliar Bruckner, so let's give this cycle a tryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR6HMZ2bjLI&list=OLAK5uy_mqWpgTEhUA8b4l2vgxZOvH7trXRUmFxuk&index=1>The second release in this series is Anton Bruckner’s Third Symphony, also recorded this past September 2017. When looking at the original score, a single strip of blue paper features the handwriting of both Anton Bruckner and Richard Wagner. At the top, in Bruckner’s somewhat ungainly scrawl, are the words “Symphony in D minor, where the trumpet launches the main theme. A. Bruckner”, while benath it, in Wagner’s elegantly sweeping script, we read: “Yes! Yes! Cordial greetings! Richard Wagner!” This remarkable double autograph documents the successful conclusion of Bruckner’s attempfs to persuade Wagner to accept the dedication of one of his symphonies, which turned the Third into Bruckner’s “Wagner Symphony”.
>>130797794Man if only wagner wrote a symphony besides the first
Do you like Amy Beach?
For me, it's Richter playing Schubert's D960https://youtu.be/lncNcNtGkJY
>>130798410I haven't heard too much of her music, but what I have I've enjoyed.
>>130797305>Arnold_Böcklin_-_Die_Toteninsel_-_Version_4>Rachmaninoff editionNo.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vezmSnsz9YQ
>>130797582not enough praise and physical affection as a child>>130797663>I would need to lose everything before considering checking out GouldFixed
>>130797815If only he wrote symphonies instead of megasnorefest a.k.a. ""Musikdrama""
Ferenc Fricsay's Beethoven>3rdextraordinary>5thgood>7thpassable>8thgood>9thphenomenal
I love this rendition of the adagio but I wish it had the cymbal clash. Just doesnt hit as hard without ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRMlMMjFBvo
The Apex of Art.The Bard of Bacchus.The Caster of Comfort.The Dionysus of Delusions.The Evoker of Ecstasy.The Forth-Bringer of Fantastic-Fantasies.The God of Greatness.The Height of Heroism.The Inventor of Ideas.The Juggler of Jubilation.The Knight of Knowledge.The Love of Listeners.The Master of Music.The Nirvana of Noblemen.The Orchestrator of Orgasm.The Prometheus of Porn.The Quester of Quixotic.The Rattler of Romance.The Sex of Sex-havers.The Tactful of Tranquility.The Up-lifter of Unbeaten.The Visionary of Vibrance.The Wagnerian of Wagners.The X-Factor of Xenophiles.The Yay of Youths.The Zing of Zion.
>>130798911Man bruckner's 7th would be so much better if the adagio was at the end. The finale is one of Bruckner's worst movements.
GOD....GOD HE IS GOD! I FOUND GOD! TELL THE JESUITS I FOUND HIM! TELL THE MACCABEES!
>>130799010>>130799003Mahler is superior.M.
W.
>>130799039Correct.
>>130799039Mahler is good. I would say his peak would be the second symphony, especially the ending with the spiritual transcendence. Conducted by Klemperer. However that is "it". What else? Nothing interesting. Name something interesting then that.
>>130799118Once again,https://files.catbox.moe/hv7q4g.flacandhttps://files.catbox.moe/p2m0vc.flac
>>1307991189th mogs everything Wagner, Bruckner and Beethoven ever shat out combined.We prefer quality over quantity here. And we rate quality based on objective criteria.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEQy5bxOkSIMahler was the greatest Austro-German. Argument can be made, that only after Schumann.
>>130799178Bruckner's 9th > Mahler's 9th
>>130799178Wagner never wrote symphonies, because he never needed to. His overtures were enough. A 10 minute prelude would triumph over an hour long symphony.>Beethoven 9th insultedWow, what a take. I have seen some strange takes. But okay... you really are entitled to your opinion. A very brave take, something I may even agree with (but it could be that Beethoven's ninth feels less potent cause I have listened to it many times). Bruckner's Ninth obliterated it though>>130799203Agreed.>>130799150See, it is hard to commit them to memory. That is the problem with Mahler. Dream filler sequences with major resolutions.
>>130799203>>130799249When a man hears the climax of the second theme in the first movement of Mahler's 9th symphony, he either acknowledges its supreme quality of musical expression, honed to perfection by the greateat orchestrator himself, respectfully bowing to Mahler's achievement, or he descends into an irrational, schizophrenic frenzy typical of Mahlerians, and later kills himself. The only other option is that the man is deaf.
No one who has listened to both believes that Bruckner is better than Mahler.
Verachtet mir die Meister nicht!
>>130799256I think I got filtered. Let me listen to the ninth again.
Music that's “out of step” with the times? That's a thing of the past! The paradigm shift has long since taken place.
>>130798911maho more like my whore
>>130799256kill yourself
>modern Wagner Rings suc--ACK!!https://files.catbox.moe/l90vee.m4a
Well? Can it?
>>130799688Incorrect.
>>130799803not even gonna ask what the hell that means
>>130799757the Sieglinde is good but the Siegmund is very mid at best, wobbly.what Ring is it?
>>130799803Well, it did so far.
>>130799924The recent one I've been shilling for the past month: Fabio Luisi/Dallas Symphony O
>>130799940well I guess I'll check it out. dare I ask what the Siegfried is like?
>>130799958https://files.catbox.moe/hcuufn.m4a
>>130799256Anyone affected by Mahler's music is as jewish as the man himself.
>>130800010Jews are God's chosen people. So was the greatest Austro-German himself.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZKXLNYD8-g
>>130800010Disliking it counts as being affected by it.
God created atonality. It's in the Bible. It's how Joshua conquered the Canaanites. It was kept a secret by the Levites for millenia because it was the musical language of God, not meant for the ears of the unchosen, but it was prophesied that a Jewish Messiah would rise almost 3000 years later to bring back to humanity the language necessary to reestablish direct dialogue with God and make a final covenant with him, to which anyone who is able to understand the Word through holy Atonality, regardless of race or creed, is welcome.
>>130800033Oh fuck! Really? God damn it.
>>130800033Kek. Got 'em
>>130800047Don't you "kek" at me
Arenskyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4MvJs4nPsU&list=OLAK5uy_meFkws327FvEu4ClLJ7Vv6MXnjwGOR9gU&index=13
>>130800062Lol'd
Every time I open up Lettberg's Scriabin set in YouTube Music, my computer's fan revs up, the browser lags, and I swear it's all gonna crash until it finally loads. Beefy set!
>>130800208that's the gods of music trying to intervene, but you insist on committing sin and shall find no forgiveness when you die next week
Scriabin>24 Preludes, Op. 11>6 Preludes, Op. 13>5 Preludes, Op. 15>5 Preludes, Op. 16>7 Preludes, Op. 17>4 Preludes, Op. 22>2 Preludes, Op. 27>4 Preludes, Op. 31>4 Preludes, Op. 33>3 Preludes, Op. 35>4 Preludes, Op. 37>4 Preludes, Op. 39>4 Preludes, Op. 48>2 Preludes, Op. 67>5 Preludes, Op. 74Why didn't he do a long cycle of Preludes again? also can't believe I just manually typed all that out for this post, sheesh, talk about a lot of effort for little-to-know payoff>>130800247lol that's p. good
>>130800272>little-to-knowholy SHIT my brain is rotting away. I should go in to see a doctor or something.little-to-no*, obviously
>>130800272And not one of those preludes are worth a damn.For the record, I like his sonatas and other works.
>>130800317Everything he did from about op 30 onwards was top-tier, I don't know what to tell you
>>130800317There was a time when I could relate, especially as I have a subconscious bias against miniatures.But now I've realized it's pretty incredible stuff. Op. 11, obviously, but the other ones too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib4YlSEVgXU&list=OLAK5uy_n-DRos36zZydaTNVxBsWaCXuTAfGIaGVo&index=52You don't think that sounds good?
>>130800317>>130800335or this onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNPekvNyX9c&list=OLAK5uy_n-DRos36zZydaTNVxBsWaCXuTAfGIaGVo&index=54
>>130800272>all those preludesholy shit, Chopin couldn't compete
>>130800335>>130800347I'm the Chopincel, I don't even like Chopin preludes that much. They're never interesting to me. On the occassion, sure. Especially during recitals, Chopin preludes played with passion rarely disappoint. Bach preludes are by far superior to any other, likely due to fugue pairings, even though I like Chopin more.Scriabin preludes are totally meandering, pointless pieces though. Glad you enjoy them, but not for me!Versa la flamme though... Now we're talking.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlqGkVc29Gw"Prelude" is a failed genre. >>130800399At least Chopin's are worth a damn.
>>130800403>I'm the Chopincelrest of post discarded and unread
>>130800403>I don't even like Chopin preludes that muchbut anon... rank 4!
>>130800403Oh, strange, I thought you were the anon who was always shilling Scriabin's Op. 11
>>130800417>a "list" not made by me
lists are for faggots
>>130797664I just listened to Gardiner's Eroica, desu
>>130799178>quality over quantityMalher 3rd has enough of bothlistened to it earlier, by Mariss Jansons, and it was great as always
>>130800030>Godmoloch isn't a God
>>130800896Moloch is the demiurge, God is the universe itself.
>>130800896Yeah he is, he's *the* god, what are you on about
>>130800975to jews, moloch is a lot more than the universeactually, he supposedly broke a part of itself to create the Universe, through the tsim tsum, losing his perfect ein sof form, which they try to make whole again by destroying everything and mixing it all into a brown goo (see The End of Evangelion)thus hoping to be thanked by being given a special position (the fools: if moloch was whole again, nothing else could exist anymore, by their own lore)>>130800995>*the*initially, he at least had a butt pal and a wifeso there's that
Johann Baptist Joseph Maximilian Reger>Reger’s four-hand works display his more lyrical and accessible side. These miniatures reveal his gift for melody and his subtle harmonic colorings, offering a contrast to the density often associated with his larger compositions. Across his four-hand output, Reger uses the medium not only as a vehicle for technical exploration but also as a form of musical conversation - a dialogue between two pianists that mirrors his complex yet humanistic musical voice.>Of the Sechs Burlesken Reger himself wrote: “In order to give my ‘harmonic’ mood the freedom it deserves, I will [...] soon write Scènes burlesques pour piano à quatre mains, but I am already ‘warning’ all academies etc. about them; it will be a crazy thing, harmonically exuberant! Oh, there are still many, many ‘north and south poles in harmonics’!“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT7INOdUgQMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMuLw7aOXWkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ5fKXJg0a8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AngOq5Tc5yYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RluQ6A4c9Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QzgpCOkDB8
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>>130801048real schizo shit
>>130801048No, idiot. There's only ever been one God and his name is MLCH
>>130801078well, it's right from the kabbalah, so...
>>130801148abrahamic schizophrenia
>>130801154many such cases
>>130800317Low-tier low iq, peasant opinion
>>130801385well yeah>>130800403>I'm the Chopincel
GEM ALLERThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D-1sEEQKtQthough desu I only like this because of that passage at 4:57 with the high G, it sounds so magical
