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>*Seethes and accuses multiple other artists of ripping him off*
>*Doesn’t have anything to say when mega pop star Olivia blatantly rips off his song Disarm
What a bitch
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For reference.

https://youtu.be/d1acEVmnVhI?si=DhiVcj94Qwi4si-O

https://youtu.be/OA2YUsJyQI0?si=JBOmnaYWxTs0x2A0
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My favorite was Baldo casting judgment on STP…

In what fucking world is he on Weiland’s level.
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>>130885658
Based. Pumpkins had a handful of good tunes. There’s a lot of mopey filler in their discography
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>>130885635
billy schtupping another hot young female musician confirmed.
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>>130885658
lol. STP is dated cockrock. Billy is the king of alternative
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>>130885635
pussy
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>>130885843
Smashing Pumpkins is buttock instrumentals with whiny ass vocals.
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>>130885930
nah. it's well produced and genuine alternative music. stp sounds like 80s macho rock. outdated on delivery and gay
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>>130885937
Smashing Pumpkins is the most pretentious 90's band imaginable when considering how little creativity they really had and the fact they were dogshit at their instruments and never tried to improve. Billy Corgan is also an insufferable douche.
These guys could do their entire discography in one sitting and move on to the next genre by the next day, with the same perfect guitar tone and everything
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>>130885984
gr8 b8 m8
dial8
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>>130885937
Listen to Tiny Music and Shangri before spouting nonsense. They did that sentimental shit you’re wanting better than Pumpkins.
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>>130885984
you're just saying anything. when compared to other alternative and mainstream rock music they were totally novel and diverse. the solos and drumming are superior to all other alt bands. you sound kinda retarded
>>130886008
generic radio rock
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>>130886063
Nobody cares about solos and drums when the singer sound like some whiny femboy
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>>130886087
you don't understand rock music
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>>130886087
As opposed to that gay macho voice the singer of STP is doing? lmao
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>>130886063
>novel and diverse
>gish and siamese dream basically the same album
>mellon collie unbearable pretentious 2 hour album with 3 good songs
>adore was literally fulfilling a contractual obligation
>machina 1 and 2 are utterly forgettable
>band broke up and was dogshit upon reform
>final count: 8 good songs. Not even a full album
Truly a novel and diverse band for enlightened individuals such as yourself, my good sir!
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oh no
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>>130886102
>Gay ass macho voice.
He had many voices. 18+

https://youtu.be/dhCwLD6-UdI?si=7lMeB8bgEyUDEbyA
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they never had a single song as good as Plush or Creep
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>>130886114
>Oh no they aren’t apart of the rym and Fantano hive-mind of pretentious douchery
Even more based
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>>130886107
what a mog. and that's after the chud tax
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>>130886135
popular kids listened and still listen to pumpkins, not STP, loser macho music stuck in the 80s
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>>130886139
Quotes RYM
Do you listen to music with your eyes or something? Do you listen to praise? How is 3 hours of Smashing Pumpkins not an excruciating, mind-numbingly repetitive experience? Do you know what you could get out of 3 hours of, say, Failure?
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>because of people like you
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>>130886159
Rodrigo is influenced by Billy and even hip hop beats and videos continue to rip-off 1979. We matter. All the numbers speak for us. Billy won.
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>>130886183
You are not making an appeal to popularity right now when reminded that the 90's were the peak of American culture and you could lift a rock and find twenty bands that were much, much better than whatever that bald fuck could ever conjure up in his dreams.
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>>130886139
Look at the amount of reviews SP has compared to STP. SP wasn’t even more popular than STP back in the 90s. They were on par with one another in popularity during their prime. You’re just further proving the hive mind hipsters latched onto SP over the last decade. It’s mostly zoomers and some millennials watching this guy and parroting his views.
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I don't like SP because of his annoying voice.

However his interviews on The Magnificent Others are usually awful because he can't stop interrupting to talk about himself. He interrupted John Carpenter recently to tell a long boring story about how his own movie score got picked over someone else's back in the 90s for example.
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>>130886153
I already posted Sour Girl. Nothing macho about that one. Bait
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>>130885658
weiland is fucking dead, for once
meanwhile ol' billy is still kicking, still doing a world tour with his mates
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>>130886201
oh that's just because stp aged like milk
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>>130886234
People listen to STP in 1996+30? I thought we just dealt with lady picture show and interstate love song being everywhere on the radio and moved on. Pretty decent songs tbqhwyfam
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>>130886183
>band gives fuel to shit “musician” that plagiarizes everything, as well as mumbling nig music
Is this supposed to be a positive thing?
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>>130885635
He's afraid of young women. Plus he wants to start the Eurasian US race and won't mess up propaganda that helps usher that in.
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>>130886234
You do realize Corgan admitted to glazing STP when their third album came out, right? He was telling them how wrong he was about them and then the guitarist and bass player just sat there like “oh thanks”
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He ripped off My Bloody Valentine more than anyone has ripped him off.
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>>130885937
SP was not well produced outside of SD and Billy IS butt rock without the rest of the band.
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>>130886397
Nope, only for Mayonaise and Alan Moulder worked on Siamese dream anyway
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Behead those who insult Billy.
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>"Smashing Young Man" by Collective Soul is widely understood as a sarcastic retort to Billy Corgan of the Smashing Pumpkins, following a public feud and lawsuit. Corgan had accused Collective Soul of plagiarizing their hit song "Shine," a claim the band disproved by producing a demo tape of the track from 1987, predating the Smashing Pumpkins' release

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grt_iG8kzrs&list=RDgrt_iG8kzrs&start_radio=1
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>>130885937
whatever you say billy
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>>130887250
this
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>The Poster Children (and other bands from the same downstate scene, like Hum) were an obvious and direct influence on the Smashing Pumpkins' sound. For anyone familiar with both, it is hard to see how the a lesser derivation of the Poster Children's sound could be hailed as some kind of revolutionary genius, except by rock critics and music business people unaware of anything at the street level.
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Siamese Dream [Virgin, 1993]
"Geek U.S.A." *choice cuts*
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THE WORLD IS A VAMPIRE

shit band, horrible singer
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>>130887784
Ugly pedo
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>>130887784
Based knower whoever wrote this. But no, pumpkins mog the others
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>>130885658
Who do you think you are fooling? Smashing pumpkins are the best alternative band of the 90's. There isn't another band that can rival 1979, hummer, mayonnaise or even muzzle.
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>>130887784
Oh look some pedo faggot who made a career making unlistenable noise rock.
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>>130886159
LMAO, the Pumpkins hater is a Failure fanboy. Fantastic Planet is exhibit A of bloated 90s CD albums.
>>130886301
Yes, Corgan realized later on that STP were actually great, and they were just like prime SP.
>>130887585
Collective Soul were terrible.
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>>130885984
Based Ween chad
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SP are great and all, but did anyone hear the massive YEEEAHHHH on piece of pie? 10/10
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>>130885650
strumming is the same maybe a chord or two but not only is my guy Williams melody one of the best ever his perfectly emotive vocals make this embarrassing and trivial imitation nothing above a behind the old crumbling museum shitty streetwalker cum fart.
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>>130887954
I never listened to SP in the 90's, because it was "almost" good but never actually good.
The most mediocre or overrated band of all time if you take into account their popularity to this day. Trent Reznor for example was just as cringe and whiny but he knew how to write actually memorable music.
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STP were great because they had 80s buttrock choruses but drenched in authentic southern rock vibes with soulful vocals.

Smashing Pumpkins was great when they had the inspired version of Billy Corgan. It was musically a lot like Tim Burton movies not just aesthetically obviously of course but because with both of them you felt like these were handcrafted curios made specifically for the artists pleasure that happened to be to the interest of the fans that happened to blow up and be mainstream-safe edgy. White Zombie was like that too where they only had so many musical ideas and left music after the 90s. Rob Zombie wanted to pay homage to 60s and 70s exploitation and horror through his music but anyway I digress.

>>130897027
The difference between Reznor and Corgan is Reznor is a legit musical genius at a Bach/Beethovenian level and HAS to make cool shit because he is connected directly to The Demiurge and Corgan is a man who just loves songwriting and in this specific time period in his life made bangers but doesn't have anything like true genius its more like he made the music he dreamed of making and accomplished it but once the well ran dry he still made music for fun but its just not divinely inspired like Reznors is.

TL:DR Reznor vs. Corgan is like a difference between genius and compulsion vs. passion and just having a strong interest in music history and just wanting to be in the industry.
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>>130885658
Tiny Music clicked for Billy and began to appreciate them after that.
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>>130885635
>continues to make billy seethe
based collective soul
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m0bI82Rz_k
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check the ratings plebs. billy won



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