agent m edition™Production Resources:https://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6qhttps://pastebin.com/p2QUqMzj>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributorshttp://mu-sic-production.wikia.comUse vocaroo to post WIPs.https://vocaroo.com/No youtube, soundcloud and other shilling websites allowed.Previous:>>131006152
I am about to clean out my vital presets. I download so many packs when I started out and most of it is like wubs, rick rolls and useless bass noises. I think most of this trash came from the vital discord
>>131105230thought on these tracks? how should i mix them? I never can get a good guitar sound when recording DI. also, not sure about breaks on tracks 1 and 2, do they sound way too different to the rest?https://vocaroo.com/1gHZld264fWGhttps://vocaroo.com/19s1Ug3z3Gy5https://vocaroo.com/1eDlrQmvYC6h
>>131105230MIB does not emply aliens
>>131105693i mean the first one is a good track. id bring the drums up or perhaps switch to some fuller ones (ezdrummer, they have a blues tight preset). youve run into the issue a lot of guitarist run into and thats panning issues. it depends on how many guitar parts you have im not sure if i hear 2 or 3 but id probably go left 35 rhythm, right 35 lead. that sweet little echoy lead at the end, double that and do it like 55 left and 55 right. or you can use something like stereo savage. if that echo lead is the same as the main lead, id just keep everything panning 35 left and right. put bass up the middle. the break sounds good keep it
maybe i'm just spoiled from hybrid reverb but khs convolver is actually kinda garbo i think somebody should really make one to rule them allvoc related new era coming https://vocaroo.com/15hHA3KHWSby
feeling some pretty intense burnout since my i put out my last album. finding it kinda hard to just open the DAW and start on a new song. it's not that i don't have material ready. i've got like 5 full albums written/tabbed out and ready to go. i just don't wanna jump back into another album :/
>>131108529real and i've been struggling with that as well. writing new things is fun. working toward putting things out is... work...idk i've found it helps to mentally be thinking of what the next move is going to be despite whatever you're working on so you don't end up stuck wondering what to do once you're done.
>>131108582oh i know full-well which album i'm gonna record next. it's just getting back on the horse. i always get burnout after putting out an album. and i'm not getting any younger. it seems the burnout lasts longer every time...
>>131108582>which album i'm gonna record nexti meant more llke, what you're going to explore next. what's going to excite you, thinking about what music is currently interesting for you.obvs this is just me but i find it really hard to "get back on the horse" without something fun to be doing.working on an album is basically just seeing something through (to me) it's practically busy work
>>131108712i do agree. i think every album should be a departure for the last (unless you're trying to pin down a VERY specific sound over the course of a few albums like pink floyd or beach boys). i've taken my current sound about as far as i think it can go. the next album is gonna be more aggressive and bare-bones. more mathcore elements. weird time signatures. more frantic screaming type stuff. i've taken synths and autotune and breakdowns as far as i my abilities will allow.
>>131108726wish you were here for me... tough call thoughswag you should add breakcore to that probably to appeal to my personal taste.tend to agree though ya
>>131108762>swag you should add breakcore to that probably to appeal to my personal taste.funny enough, i have a note in my files that says>use amen break drums for pre-breakdown buildup
We recorded these songs like a year apart, and I have no idea how to get the the last 2 songs to sound more like the first one. Do we just have to rerecord?https://vocaroo.com/1nyajBJicGJMhttps://vocaroo.com/1cqZkHL7vOXchttps://vocaroo.com/1jTfwO4j6NE8
can I get some feedback/hate on this creation? I’m experimenting with production techniques to create a specific, kinda smooth, less aggressive version of the old black metal demo sound, to lean more into the magical, almost dungeon synth vibes. https://voca.ro/1kjfxZfvTKmythanks a lot!
should i get a used akai mpc live 1 to make music in forest? is it worth 500 money?
>>131111009Depends. Do you want a cool toy to play with? Go for it. Do you chase a specific creative vision? Save the cash.
https://vocaroo.com/1iHCHxJz754D
Alright, my alors en danse dnb remix is done, i think, no idea what to add /change whateverhttps://voca.ro/17OMophwl7vOWhat do you guys think?
>>131111066i want to try making music on hikes and when traveling. MPCs seem capable of making full tracks, unlike other grooveboxes
>>131111390It would be definitely a fun thing to own in your case. If you got the cash, I say go for it. Much more fun than working in a daw anyways.
Need headphones for listening to music and producing music.ATH-M50x vs. DT 770 Pro? ATH-M50x is much cheaper in local stores. I have a DT 770 M (not pro) and I learned it has shit sound - is that true? They don't clamp anymore - and I changed the pads to velour. But I read that the sound is shit - should I upgrade?I make classical-sounding stuff, electronic music, rock and metal - I make it in DAWs - I record guitar and use a midi keyboard.I listen to all kinds of music, anything from death metal to electronic and classical.What do you think anons? Or do you have other suggestions?Gonna ask on other boards and threads, too
>>131111361I assume this is not mixed yet but even for that the bass and subs are super weak
>>131112047Can only speak from my experience, but I own the ATH ones and it’s great imo. Never noticed any issues and the listening is enjoyable as well.
>>131112047>DT 770 ProI have the 80OHM version of these and I've never considered changing them. I do mostly similar stuff, bit of electronic, bit of rock/metal, all in the daw. I like them because they have slightly more bass than my monitors, but are still pretty flat otherwise. That was before I got a sub woofer, mind, but I still prefer to use them when I'm recording guitar and bass parts over my monitors. Like shorts, they are comfy and easy to wear.
>>131112679>>131112797Why reply to that post and not the posts that need it?
>>131112679>>131112797thanks anonsATH-M50x are like 100 bucks here, are they fake or something? MSRP is around 150, right? So these could be fake or refurbished? They claim they're new>>131113199it's fine anon I'm in the thread, can read it
>>131113199The fuck do you mean? Are you salty because you made a post and it's getting ignored? No one owes you a reply.
>>131112263Hmm i'm gonna give the low end another pass then, thank you anon
i synthesize everything from scratch nowhttps://vocaroo.com/17fj47hxkTOt
thoughts on the overall composition for this? https://vocaroo.com/1fPF50RENAUrthe guitars are vital + guitar rig because i dont have a setup to record a good DI dont really know what im doing mix wise because im a month into /prod/ and music making in general
refute this:mastering was created by jews to keep ur money.every device will play ur shit differently, so might aswell ignore mastering and even market it as "true indie"
I think I've been over-relying on making the mixbus do all the work.Here everything is processed much more individually. Mixbus is slight broadstroke EQ with some tape saturation.https://vocaroo.com/14So2PbYcQMP
>>131111009Nightmare is kinda taken tho...
>>131111009Buy it or a similar thing. When these niggers are broke you'll have a piece of gear you can use to make music daw style but away from a pc, and most important, for live performance. They told me not to purchase picrel, I'm making grat leads, etc, which I would not otherwise...
I want to try to make synthpop or electro house but I'm quite ashamed to record myself singing in my room with my family near
idk what else to do with this manghttps://voca.ro/1nGlFzZGDPbx
>>131118110Nobody in your family will know you're uploading here, or anywhere. Does it really matter? If it sounds good, no. If it sounds like testing shit? No. Just record and do your thing. Doesn't matter what they think. It's hard to have those close by with the most amount of judgement, especially personal judgement where they have their own opinions on specific music....but the best kind of family nurtures what you're going for. If they don't, maybe they're a family that have been brought up through ridicule to somehow enhance their ability to get through all of the abrasiveness, like sharpening a knife/sword. There isn't a particular way about it. Wherever you come from, we all adapt to how this shit goes, like in every direction.
>>131111009It's great, Roger Linn even likes it.
>>131118110What I'm getting at >>131118215 is yes upload it here. Don't be afraid of the criticism. Take it in stride and get better. That's what I meant about going against the wheatstone. You'll get better.
>>131118743Don't upload things, it just feeds the AI now.
>>131118755I really hate how I have to agree with this. What about creating a private version of /mu/ (sure there are already some out there)?
>>131118775Let me tell you, as a long time multi-decade hobbyist of all kinds of music, you can tell when something's shitty or if you think it's decent, you don't need other people to give you superficial pointers at all. Creating music was meant to be spontaneous and fun as a pastime hobby for so long, for no other reason than it's fun, and people like to try to ruin the idea of doing that by saying OH GEE if you don't UPLOAD it what's it all for?It's as if these aren't even people, they are bots designed to try to suck the joy out of something that could be as simple as whistling or humming. I blame France.
>>131118797What if I told youNot all people share the same values and musical goals as you?
>>131118850So you wanna make it big? Why? Seems like a silly goal, the machine doesn't care about music.
>>131118881i’m already huge. regardless of it being silly (to you) you’re being a dickhead
>>131118797you're stupid as fuck. sharing your work and getting feedback is a critical part of growing as an artist
it’s funny because i agree conceptually that if you actually have the ear and good taste you really don’t need the pointers and should trust yourself, or be very selective about what opinion you internalize anyway.however having that sense for anybody who isn’t an extremely gifted outlier (even among “tha pr0s” is usually something you build up to with hard work and experience, it’s not just some innate quality you have or you don’t. anybody who has to proclaim this on a cartoon board full of amateurs is most likely a coping pseud who got burned one too many times and had to prematurely adopt this mindset to protect their fragile ego KEK
that anon making a song named after chuzo really broke him huh
>>131119574cope retard i live rent free in the boomers head and my intelligence stands out so much to you retards that you’re all obsessed with me. keep seething
What's the morality of using cracked plugins and making money off them? Will I forever be independent or should I freeze all my tracks and say "trust me bro" when signing up with a label? Asking for a friend.
>>131119068Not on the Internet though...
>>131118110i literally record my vocals in my car because of this, though i found people have the strangest need to park near me in a giant empty parking lot while im recording
>>131118797holy cope
>>131119194especially that particular anon has lolcow taste and is literally coping, listens to obscure tranny music while thinking that literally everything that's popular is complete crap, and is generally fucking retarded with all his decisions even outside of music
i've pretty much decided on a whim that i'm gonna build an impeccable LA2A clone, even on a shoestring budget i can just decide to that kind of thing because i'm objectively smart. the boomer could afford a real LA2A if he really wanted one but he doesn't even want it because he's retarded, he has no concept of what it's good for, he wouldn't even want to use an LA2A plugin even though he believes that plugins sound as good as hardware.
>>131120191>In other news, the body of a man was found at a carpark at 10am on Wednesday after a car had been reported being parked there for days without moving>Victim has been identified as 36-year-old Anonymous from 4chan, an aspiring musician who was found with an SM58 microphone lodged in his throat>Recordings were recovered from the laptop, which police described as 'distinctly amateur' and 'too breathy'.>Sgt. Jannee commented 'It's very flat and he was definitely singing from the throat. They might have sounded better after some melodyne processing, but as it stands the evidence has been filed as unmixable garbage'.
how to guitar bus eq tutorial
is this excessive
>>131120538Tbh, those anons views are not wrong. I don’t care about talmudic jewish lies and I try to avoid them. That goes for music as well.
>>131120918You be overhandlin them squirly dan
>>131120918that’s pretty minimal no..?all together throughout the entire song?
>>131121227dunno, ive always kept it more simple than this.
>>131121152you're more or less rejecting the entirety of western music not because billions of people are brainwashed by da joos, it's because you're too dumb to understand what's actually great about the music so you stick to more niche genres where the artists are basic and naive or even just doing your own noodling without participating in the broader music community
Added vocals and slight sidechain compression drums -> everything, like at most 2db on a transient.https://vocaroo.com/12ghnt2dgDTA
>>131119969I'm asking the same question. Honestly the only plugin I really need is Omnisphere but I will never pay 500€ for it
>>131119969>>131121562making money doesn’t change the morality of violating property rights.devs deserve to be compensated, but this talk is decades old and it’s been established by whatever studies and an of anecdotal evidence to at piracy doesn’t turn would-be buyers into thieves, it just exposes people who were never going to buy it and maybe convinces them to pay for it down the line, which you should when you can, presumably from whatever money you make using said plugins.…unless they’re fabfilter because that shit is absolutely outrageous
>>131119969>>131121562how about you lads get a fucking job and pay for it
>>131121602Yeah I think it's the right way, buying after you made money from your music>>131121604I have a job, but I never paid this much for a software. It'd be weird having a vst more expensive than my daw. Maybe I'll consider Analog Lab, which is way less (~130€)
>>131121604not paying for software, sorry
https://vocaroo.com/14pIgndFcjRJjust started this. any suggestions?
>>131119969nobody cares. everybody pirates including pros.
>>131121655>sorryyou are weak, never apologise for this
>>131121549This sounds like someone’s AI prompt to make a song 'in the style of bands like yellowcard etc'. Gay yellowcard style aside, good job if that is all you, though, it's pretty clean overall. I can't get any of my shit to sound anywhere near this clear.
>>131121549>>131121969>AIdae get this this “tip of the tongue” sensation when listening to these songs where the melodies are *almost* really great but it’s like somebody just half finished the thought or never filtered it for taste so the entire thing is completely forgettable? because that’s what it sounds like.sorry if it’s real and that’s harsh. decent production, terrible writing.
>>131122096Yes, it's almost certainly AI. The vocals are way too clean and they sound like generic AI gibberish. They also suspiciously whipped up those vocals really quickly, sounding almost fully (overly) processed.
What's the /prod/ approved way of making music? I wanna do a metal song and I always start by picking up the guitar and jaming around to find nice sounding riffs and melodies. However after I found one I put away the guitar and call it a day. How to get motivated to proceed and get a god damn song done?
>>131120760why is this so accurate, are we friends in discord
I just got back from a cruise, and the ship's DJ fucking sucked. I never want to hear that fucking Black Eyed Peas song ever again. I was thinking about giving her a USB of some of my stuff.
Too woke anon here.The single most impactful thing that YOU can do for the environment is to NOT go on a cruise.Also the DJ will suck and you may get stuck out there.Worth it?
>>131123810I didn't want to go, but my mom wanted it as a "family vacation". I hadn't seen them in years, so whatever, I got guilted into it. Some of the other live music on the ship was pretty good. I don't blame the DJ, I'm sure the cruise line gave her a list of shit to play.
>>131124037happened to me too dw. i got black out drunk several times and tried to fuck my uncles 60 some year old gf.she was severely disappointed when we met next, sober.… actually come to think of it there was some r&b band playing in the lobby that wasn’t terrible honestly. i mean what could one expect, really?
>>131124393Yeah luckily I don't drink so didn't have any issues like that. When we weren't in port, it was pretty boring. I didn't do many of the activities, so I just sat on the deck looking for whales while either working on some music or reading. I finished my /dmp/ album track while on the ship. It wasn't my home sound setup, so idk how good the mixing or sounds are. Guess I'll find out at the listening party. I haven't felt like listening to it since getting back: >>109422373I opened another project I worked on and it doesn't sound as great now, so idk...
>>131124469Er... forgot to crossboard link: >>>/g/109422373
>>131122776Get together, try stuff, or are you a one man band?
I'm a sucker for a good Adagio for Strings remix...
>>131120528>i-if you don't upload your music to some shitty service designed to train the AI... you're coping!Hahaha listen to you go, you're an AI lol.
And finally here we go.Dialed back a few things from that one anon who said it was too processed.Gay yellowcard was the goal. No it's not AI.https://vocaroo.com/1a6V5V7hD99J
>>131127363It started here >>131115686Then >>131121549Which, by the way, is easier to process when you have the same voice over time.
>>131122776>/prod/ approvedWhen youre using phrases like this, you should just give up entirely. Sell your instruments immediately and work in retail for the rest of your life.
>>131124037>but my mom wanted it as a "family vacation"ok wh*te boi
EQ Three “flat response”can somebody explain what’s being done technically? the sound is obvious. but i would like to know and its not in the ableton manual.
>>131130003do a null test on it and you'll hear the difference
>>131130238.i want to know what is being done to cause that difference
>>131130275???
>>131130275yeah what the nigga below said
just figured out how to have multiple rs5k instances on one track and send them to different tracks so i can process them separately, shout out my reapermania kenny you hipster fuck you taught me so much...adjust your white balance...
>>131130706This reminds of EQ plugins that claim to be modeled after certain analog units where if you analyze the plugin in something like plugin doctor, you see a few slight bell curves at a few dB. I get why they do it and that if you're going to model an analog unit, you won't have a truly flat response but I hate it so much. EQ seems like the one effect where in the digital domain you would want it to not add harmonics or just extra level especially without being told so.
>>131131254just use your other stock eq then if you want it to be clean duhi'm using thr33 specifically for effect and i was asking about this because i thought the non-flat-response may have been useful as an extreme effect for what i was doing. very YAOOOW YAOOOW coded>>131130706stop responding to me loser
>>131131254analog gear is extremely important for music, if you insist on using a ton of plugins you should still emulate the behavior of analog gear. use something like fabfilter pro-q if you want a plain digital EQ.
like on some of charli xcx's recent songs you can tell that the idea is there but the execution is off. it's ridiculous that they're successful millionaire producers but don't care to put in the effort to improve their sound.
>>131131503i agree, rock music was the clearest example of this. it feels very millenial
>>131131503*i* would have preferred it another way, but their execution was a result of *their* intention, not a lack of effort put into the production.charli xcx is probably the dumbest example you could pick for this topic
>>131127559Is this bedroom production or are you working from studio recordings? If bedroom you need to share your set up or give some tips, cause it's so much cleaner than anything I've heard across multiple places sharing bedroom recording/daw recordings of guitar/vocals etc.
>>131131701>t. ag cuck
>>131131849don't bring alex into this, he's a sweet man
>>131131857kysyour glazing is insane, they are objectively not top tier, they will be a footnote in the history books. no one has godlike powers to produce music that's perfectly in line with their intentions but ag cook sure looks like a smug fag who would glaze himself like that.
>>131131866>WAAAAAAAAAAAH STOP HAVING A DIFFERENT OPINION TO MElad its time you grew up, there's no "glazing" going on. take your olanzapine or stop posting
>>131131880your opinion is garbage, you have a shallow surface level understanding of music, sure there are some people who become successful while not being geniuses (for example loud luxury in EDM), but the chances of YOU being successful are slim to none, delusional little shit
>>131131890meds IMMEDIATELY
>>131131891cope cope cope
>>131131897no need for that
>>131131902there are objective ways to improve charli xcx's music, her success at this point is basically name recognition and marketing memes, there is not a single thread on /mu/ about charli and previously anons didn't think highly of her, calling her a prostitute etc
>>131131908why hasn't she hired you yet?
also her major hits were produced by other people than ag cook. ag cook has subpar production skills and charli xcx is the only famous artist who works with him afaik, probably out of geographical convenience and such. >>131131920i wouldn't even want to work with that post-wall whore unless i got paid big bucks up front
also she fell for the hyperpop meme like SOPHIE so that's why she went for ag cook, not that ag cook is inherently a genius, just that he was in the right sort of genre at the time. kesha and kim petras has similar bad taste with the high pitched auto tune shit.
A German court bet Suno a few days ago so the reckoning has become. I hope you're on the right side of history
>>131132196>bet Sunohuh?
>>131132206Open widehttps://www.euronews.com/culture/2026/08/05/stolen-intellectual-property-german-court-rules-ai-music-generator-suno-broke-copyright-ru
>>131132215based germs
>>131131866>glazing is insanecongrats on picking up tiktok phrase years after it became a thingChuzo picking up slang and staying on top of musical trends at the rate of your parents. Typical.
RIP Kavinsky
reminder to bounce to audio asap as possiblebe decisive you coward
>>131132976that's cute coming from anons who obsess about skrillex, charli xcx and SOPHIE and are still absurdly naive about digital music production like they can just download a DAW and use stock plugins like good fucking luck with that, the seething anons have all had many more years than me to get good and they're not good in the slightest, especially the drooling tards who moan about how AI music has ruined music as a hobby
it's like a scammy get rich quick scheme like you think you can just download a DAW and use stock plugins, so you have essentially no advantage over any kid or any third worlder who also have a computer and internet access, you're on some crazy dunning-kruger hubris thinking that you're such a genius that you can make good music with just a DAW and not really anything else just recording into a focusrite scarlett interface and not even using analog emulation plugins
>>131134791i like how you’re homophobic but give SOPHIE her all caps and charli her lower case.always knew you were a tranny
oh shit another blue monday remix/cover
>>131131503>they're successful millionaire producersI thought it was all you cared about. But>it's ridiculous Seethe. You will never get on their level outside of your prolific delusions.
>>131134821I was always suspect that it's actually that anon that always posts the WIP noises and sound design shit, usually with k-on or BtR pics. I think they are off their meds and actually snapped and this is the result. Apologies to the anon if this is not the case, but I've seen you post some shit before and it makes me a little suspicious.
does this suck? I mean i know technically it doesnt, but as a whole. It doesnt have vocals yet. https://vocaroo.com/1nVnKzYXldUL
>>131135345kys retard. you're a terrible person, literally a troll. i live rent free in your head. you will never be a successful even if you copy ag cook's production, but you can't even do that, you fucking retard.
>>131135796you're literally stupid, about as bottom tier drooling retard you can be without being a vegetable basically. deep down you probably know this, so you put on a big ego as a coping mechanism. you truly suck, a fucking psychopath who doesn't understand music with any depth. you don't know what you don't know, so from your point of view, maybe you'll improve enough to make good music, but any normal person can tell that you suck.
you're literally trying to scam and deceive people by making music with minimal effort, you don't care to learn the tools properly, you don't just avoid industry standard studio hardware, you also avoid even third party plugins, you stick to the stock DAW plugins as much as possible because otherwise it would be too much for your poojeet tier white trash brain to handle
>>131136589I have no idea who or what is being discussed but being so retarded that your attack is "you're like [race] and also like [other race]" means you're subhuman and double-digit IQ.
>>131136648keep telling yourself that, you're literally an idiot who can't figure out music production to any reasonable extent even if you take many years to ""practice"", while i'm literally a genius and i have many objective reasons to believe that i'm a genius, you literally don't even have the most basic appreciation of music that is generally assumed that normie audiences are supposed to have
most third worlders are literally stupid and ignorant, not artistic geniuses in any reasonable sense, this also applies to most people in first world countries of all races, it's truly an exceptionally rare gift if someone is an artistic genius
if you think i'm an idiot, there is an even bigger idiot ITT, the boomer who has been on a multi-year harassment campaign against me, he has absolutely nothing to contribute to the world regarding music, he has nothing better to do than to bully and harass people who are clearly doing better than him, who can figure things out extremely quickly with no ceiling in sight, basically unlimited genius talent, i can have top tier studio hardware that most people consider is unaffordable or they don't even understand what's the point of it, but i can have it because i'm smart
>>131136472>kys retardYep, seething. You're not even consistent with yourself. I couldn't care less.>>131136779>i'm smartL O LOL
most people just don't have it in them to be truly great and successful so they won't be swayed to fully embrace analog hardware no matter what. you either get it or you don't so you decide for yourself to seek out hardware or not. these people don't have the capacity to get the full experience of enjoying music and being able to produce or engineer great music themselves. for me at least it seems to be an innate talent since early childhood in being able to recognize the specialness in certain ways of the sound of highly popular and commercially successful music. it also seems that a disproportionate amount of untalented people get into trying to produce music because they underestimate the difficulty of it because they don't fully appreciate and respect all of the different aspects of the production of the greatest music records.
Some people say you didn't make it until you made millions and became famous then they say it's ridiculous because something somewhat rustled their jimmies.
>>131137726ag cook basically lucked into the opportunity to work with charli xcx who was already one of the top names in the industry, she had a feature on an iggy azalea song for instance. it's stupid shitbag behavior to continue to make slop when you could easily afford to improve your sound and make tens of millions more.
ITT: making it now doesn't have anything to do with real life anymore.
>>131137778fucking retard, it's basic human nature to strive to improve, unless you're way in over your head and are just keeping up appearances so you can keep cashing checks that you didn't earn out of your merit. you're just a larper who lives vicariously through people like ag cook, you will never ever be successful like him, you can't even get to his skill level which is objectively subpar for pop music producers.
>>131137806You're not even up to your own standards. What a joke.
>>131137843whatever helps you sleep at night
you're truly a bad person but you will never admit to it, you have severe psychopathy or personality disorders or whatever, on top of being literally low IQ
>>131137856Must be those too many crickets that keep you from falling asleep.
>>131137906you have absolutely no valid point to make, you're purely antagonizing me which is literal troll behavior, you don't have the most basic clue about music no matter how many examples and explanations you are given, whereas someone with real talent would seek out information independently, but you're so incredibly stupid that you're unable to learn independently and not even when being spoonfed
>>131137938I don't care what a sheltered baby bitch has to say about me.
>>131137971thanks for the (You)
>meanwhile: deafening crickets
>>131138032there's a thing called second order thinking. stupid people like you are concerned with the obvious, you want the path of least resistance to making any music at all. guess what, your music sucks and isn't worth any significant amount of money and fame. i'm more steps ahead of you than you can count so that i will be making professional quality music in the near future. i have layers and layers to my thought process and artistic intent on a level that you have no concept of, you can't even imagine what it's like to be a real genius like me.
https://vocaroo.com/1720FtYtwpcnhow does this sound
A beat a day 10https://voca.ro/11fyv6ZFDek6Samplehttps://youtu.be/U0Z3LnuufFE?si=Xu__CDAPuco0UqHt
https://voca.ro/1dXLVJw2d9Wr
on the off chance that anon is still around, im redoing your song for the /dmp/ remix albumhttps://vocaroo.com/1bpBEQ4qG1jlheres what i got so far still transcribing stuff and havent messed with the arrangement yetand heres the originalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B771M022f90its a shame he never gave this a title..
time to do my vocaroo rounds
>>131110567Couple things going on. What particularly do you like about the first one? Heres what I notice. The first song is a denser arrangement. Still theres probably significant overdub (wall of sound) of guitars really low in the mix, usually you crunch the hell out of it and pan it left and right about 45 percent. I notice hard panning, you have dual guitars sounds like different parts which is good. The other tracks dont sound bad but production wise they sound like a post Artist In The Ambulance Thrice song. I'm guessing a significant part is also your bass, getting it to thicken up the mix but not become boomy is difficult. I notice a little boomyness in the last two bass guitars, maybe some cuts and saturation could help.
>>131115124its good. feels a little linkin park (not in a bad way just with the electronic elements).the mix is good, its close. with heavy guitars you can either hard pan left and right (100) with two takes..this is kinda of the late 90s early 2000s nu metal approach. however with no vocal elements its probably fine to do it up the middle. the levels seem close>dont really know what im doing mix wise because im a month into /prod/ and music making in generalnone of us know what we're doing that's the fun part and it's what drives chuzo mad
>>131118214sounds like its begging for drums to kick in after the second gap at the end, id do that and put some absolutely crushed guitars on the sides and fade it out. very spacey interstellarly as is though, its nice
>>131121725im not familiar enough with this style other than to recommend some falsetto vocals would sit really nice in the back of the mix
>>131127363yeah that bass is chunky as hell sounds dope
>>131136274its a good start, very 80s feels a little that like John Mayer album he did a few years ago. interested to see once it has vocals
>>131115529"mastered" my own album (just a general leveling of the whole), and no one ever gave a shit. the vinyl pressing plant did their own mastering and that's it.people who talk about mastering all the time are pseuds.
>>131118797for some reason, uploading helps immensely finalizing the process and getting a new point of view, even if you're the only one listening to the upload
>>131115529Eh, it made more sense back in the day where you needed to do stuff like make sure there wasn't too much low end when cutting vinyl records etc. but there's still a great deal in it. The problem is that so many songs these days are already mixed incredibly well that a mastering engineer worth their salt won't need to do much anyway maybe beyond squeezing the last few drops out with a good limiter.
>>131143591that's the only "artistic" point of mastering: saving a recording that sounds like shit. which is a weird thing to do with a simple stereo file instead of separate tracks
I don't think any of you actually know what the fuck you are talking about and probably never will.
>>131143665In a just world that same mastering engineer would request the song be remixed but alas
>>131139568sounds cool. are you black?
https://vocaroo.com/1lQnwsIyGnO8
>>131143831i do>high pass everything>compress everything>run everything through dedicated categorical buses>double track guitars>parallel process every single effect on drums>drive the limiter on the 2bus
https://youtu.be/ncdTd_wX0XE?si=k7ZNZfZT6nLbZ78Hwhat synth is used on this?
>>131144207>high pass everythingbased. you should low pass too
>>131144375to an extent yeah
>>131143953No but I do think black voices sound better for rapping
do i bother with a centred guitar if im quad tracking or even just double tracking?
>>131144207>high pass everythingnoob
>>131144641>doesn't high pass everythingLOOOOOOOL
>>131144641stupid phaseshiftlet
i think i'll start makinig tracks again..,, maybe50-100 more bass one shots and 20 or so atmospheres? maybe,,.. quota. =(https://vocaroo.com/1bI0tNCu4NVG
>>131144819>quota.who are you working for? is it top sekkrit? shill the pack here when you’re done.
>>131144641i don't care to correct them at this point, they're irredeemablefor example, this appears to be AP mastering's unironic opinion and not just engagement bait, and many people agree with him, they have a pathological issue with their brain so they will never ever make great music, just fuck them, it's only a good thing that they are ngmi so there will be less competition for geniuses like mehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVAdhkIPz8I
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.
>>131145811you're a deplorable scumbag, you're trying to profit off of music without putting the work in to actually make great music, you're grasping of straws for a few examples where people got successful but you don't even understand how they became successful and you're using that as mental gymnastics for why you have a chance, you have an overinflated self importance so you think you trick audiences into listening to your slop, you're an utterly insufferable immoral sleazebag
is it possible to make tearout without serum and kilohearts plugins
you're so fucking stupid and immoral, if you weren't fixated on music it would be anything else like robbing banks that could easily get you locked away or even killed, you're a bad person through and through, you're not a creative or intelligent person
>>131145905can you please stop personally attacking me
>using a clipper before a limiter on the master outputhow and why is this dumbfuck advice just as common as "just hpf everything"
>>131146083it's not *wrong* wrong but you just know every lazy fucker will just slam it without trying to learn to manage their dynamics beforehand
>>131146126I get why it's a thing, I just don't see it as anything other than a carry over from the loudness wars when brickwall limiters (with all the lookahead in the world) were pushed too hard and couldn't get any louder without obvious artifacting. I see the value in clipping certain percussive elements but doing it to the stereo bus just seems too far.
Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
>>131145811>>131146471Teach me your ways senpai
you can lead some people into the sunlight, but you can't make them bright
vrr flickering with splice open is absolutely fucking crazy
everything gets a HPF. i just bring it up until i can notice a difference and then i bring it down.everything gets compressed. some things get absolutely crushed (bass), some just under that (vocals). i will tame unruly peaks by any means necessary. when I get out of bed in the morning, chuzo starts shaking.
I finally bought a controller/sequencer that can output CV and immediately plugged into the most ass sounding analog fart generators I own.
>>131145455I'd rather listen to the youtube chud over you to be honest senpai
>>131150136There's our superstar!!
>>131150136My MPC One has CV and Gate, that's quite nice. I use them with my Volca Modular. I have a Behringer 2600 but it takes normal MIDI. USB too I think, but I don't use that.
Test
I've been producing for a couple of months, I think Ive made decent progress. Rate this pl0xhttps://voca.ro/1eyrbIloKHdg
>>131151494Sounds decent. odd place to start writing a song though
>>131151183>>131151225what if I took the exquisitely expensive sound of a genuine analog moog and drowned it in a 20 dollar chinese guitar pedalhttps://voca.ro/1dBFVkPuBgmK
Ableton Glue Compressor is so fucking based
>>131134461Dunno what this means, gonna keep things unrendered
https://voca.ro/1lEN1MZx8vqvAn unfinished project from my early months producting(I started this year). I haven't mixed or mastered at all besides some reverb I put on guitar and drums -- and probably on the synth -- but it has been a while since the last time I handled it.I do not intend keep working on this right now because the vocals still need adjustments and harmonizing alone a song that few people covered isn't that easy.If you are a Beach Boys fan, specially a fan from Sunflower era, you are going to enjoy it as much as I did when I made it.
>>131151108that's great (for me), so you have literally no chance of success, not even serendipitously, you have a demented lack of taste, you can't learn to appreciate the sound even when shown side by side comparisons of plugins vs hardware, because you're quite literally too stupid to work in high stakes music production or audio engineering
>>131142044i literally just increase the volume then compress it a bit and then clip off the excess witha clipper. sounds fine usually.
>>131141998https://vocaroo.com/1hIvuhaObUvGlike this?
really you are the bottom of the bottom scum, it would be difficult to find such clueless people from the general population, and you're so overconfident that you think i'm the one who's dumb and not you, it's laughable, i wish i could shoot you in the face, fucking despicable sack of shit
>>131149749THIS
>>131149749this causes more peaking retard
>pay sub>the xir can't even do playbackIt took the xir 15 mins to come up with an analysis of my track but it was worth it:https://pastebin.com/raw/BuBqGQam
>>131151225>>131111009MPC ONE or MPC LIVE? which one's better?
any criticism for this track? i feel it might get a bit loud and too maximalist in places but i kinda just want second opinions:https://vocaroo.com/15lUvtjKw9Ms
idk what music to make next chat maybe i need to just plow through a million drafts for the next couple weeks girl so confusing 8(
my quota has been met so i can make music again for nowvery exciting
>>131154597big improvement
drop some bars on thishttps://voca.ro/1oTqminDRin9
>>131112047get the ATH-M50x But pirate this VST called HoRNet VHS, and throw it on your master channel when your mixing with them. its a frequency response corrective tool so your mixes aren't tricked by the headphones themselves.
vital oversampling:realistically is it going to catch me off guard with distortion if i'm not using the distortion (or very lightly, if ever) and not being stupid with the resonance on the filters?i'm only dimly aware of the approaches to building basic filters influencing this; obviously there's the "filters" in the oscillator section as well, but that sounds to me like some steeper band-limiting (?), i wouldn't know if that influences anything.
>>131134810Replace DAW without 4 track and that's how its always been what lol. maybe not "Better". but def more popular and resonate w more people. esp w label help...
ideekay yet feels kinda soft compared to my initial hope..,,, let's go again maybe.. https://vocaroo.com/14127x5bK3eD
>>131160015it sounds light, what synth are you using?
>>131153223sounds like old Enjoy
>>131160396most of it is printed one shots that aren't labeled but i'm sure it's like 90% vital
I bought Ableton 12 Suite on a whim and I don’t know what to do, I have been using FL Studio for years and found it easier to navigate but people say Ableton is better for making stuff off the cuff that shifts and evolves. What do I do
>>131160639neck yourself
>>131160810Wow this thread sucks shit, just a bunch of suckers and losers mad at people who can afford gear
https://voca.ro/1m33fwvVvTZ2 some actual bullshit i cooked up. help me decide if its worth putting time into mixing
and the nextttt oneeee idk meow <.<https://vocaroo.com/1mNp1jEbACrh
>>131160639>people say Ableton is better for making stuff off the cuff that shifts and evolves.every daw can do this. no daw has more capabilities than others, its all preference. you've been swindled.
>>131162445anons would really rather throw money at the problem collecting vsts like pokemon cards rather than learn their tools or do any research. low iq retards that populate these threads are never going to make a hit song and will pass their days monkeying around with their new trending snake oil plugins and leaving snarky responses ITT while contributing nothing of substance
whats a good drum plugin worth investing into? im familiar with groove agent so i was thinking of upgrading to the full version of that but there are obviously other options like ezdrummer which ive never tried.
>>131162498>t. sucked terence tao's cock
or liiiike thiiiisICanHasSleep now soon plix? :> pls...,,, https://vocaroo.com/1aZDtFlKq1yH
ok i am convinced quad tracking guitars is a meme, it always sounds shit when i do it. i spend hours eq'ing then i mute the two guitars and it sounds fine
>>131163586> i spend hours eq'ingprobably a sign you fucked up the tones and tracking already
>>131163598i tihnk its just because quad tracking makes it too muddy because the guitars separated from each other sound fine.
>>131162498post vocaroo, enlightened one
>>131163586Are you panning them hard? I thought the way to do quad was one hard pan one half pan + half volume on a single side. Also, usually you'll use a different amp setting/pedal/sim/whatever for the quieter track
>>131162498>im gonna make a hit song with stock FL drums and SQ8L! People with money are suckers because uhhhhhFUCKING COOOOOPE
>>131139568Really good drum selectionI wonder what the resident schizo thinks of this mixing wisehttps://vocaroo.com/1eIIn6ENitmd
>>131163995https://vocaroo.com/1lyazYoh8U2Olast post i had the 2bus turned down. here's what ive ended up with
>>131165559Yeah, sounds a bit phase-y to me
>>131165586not even sure how i'd fix that
>>131165608When you zoom into the wave forms, see how the peaks and valleys align with each other
>>131162498>leaving snarky responses ITT while contributing nothing of substanceThe fucking irony and lack of self awareness. The anon initially asked for help and all you did was just use it as an opportunity to trash talk the thread for not responding to your vocaroos.
>>131159182Use oversampling to mitigate aliasing. I don't know Vital specifically but here's what I know that can cause it: distortion/clipping, wave shaping/folding, FM. If your patch sounds good, leave it. If you hear aliasing (and don't want it), oversample.
>>131162498>low iq retards that populate these threads are never going to make a hit songI, fellow low IQ retard from the thread. You will never make a hit song either.
>>131165889*I*: hi/greetings, obviously.
>>131165708the question is full retard tier. why don't you help "the anon"? you're being as unhelpful as any other trash talker.
I am using Acid Pro 4, released in 2002. The year before Sony bought them out and then bundled the same rootkit with it they put on physical CDs that killed your CD writer drivers, as an anti-piracy measure. Which I never saw reported, but independently verified by installing acid pro 5, starting a process whose name started with $SYS$ and watched it disappear from task manager.I am using it in a virtual machine with a Linux host. I would never run bare metal Windows these days.https://vocaroo.com/134V3wHCYGYVThis is the track I'm working on. Rate, slate, hate. But give me feedback. Early 2000s drum and bass vibe
>>131166662>acid proIm traumatised after using acid pro 7 for years then later bought 10 and 11 after magix acquired the IP. It has become vapourware and their bundles with the core fx plugins dont work, their support is non-existent and the forums are full of people telling the company they are pieces of shit
>>131166852Ir's been shit since Sony bought them in 2003. Version 4 is still good though, the one I'm using. Still on Piratebay.
>>131166461Because I'm not making silly posts calling everyone unhelpful and snarky and literally doing just that in the process? You are retarded.
>>131166662>https://vocaroo.com/134V3wHCYGYVThose piano chords are a bit too simple and boring to just be repeated so many times like this before the drums come in. I think you should find some variations or more interesting elements to them. Maybe instead of being always identical, have them loop three times and then have something different the fourth time. Maybe you could have a little pitch sliding down effect on them at some point, play around with a delay or reverb, put another melody on top, have a little rhythmic shift just something so it's not just "the same two chords four times each".Same goes for the drums by the way, nice start but you need variations in that pattern, fills and stuff. The 808 that comes in at 1:23 is a bit too out of tune I think. Or not enough.
>>131167023look at what you just wrote. the irony! you're a complete idiot, you never say anything good about music. you seem to hate music in general, even when you bring up examples of successful artists, you're just looking for reasons for why you can make music in a certain way without caring about the quality because you think those artist made low quality music and are only successful in spite of it.
>>131166971Im curious why you're not using something more modern
>>131159182Unless you're doing some real heavy distortion that will push harmonics right up to nyquist such as clipping, you usually don't even need oversampling. Sometimes, if you use a true peak meter you can see that enabling even 2x OS will bring true peaks down from +0.5dbFS to 0.1 but it's mostly a non issue.
you still haven't answered the anon who asked about fl studio vs ableton. you have a simple pavlovian response - which doesn't require high-level thinking - to attack anons who you perceive to be chuzo. you lack self-awareness about your own abhorrent abusive behavior so you accuse others like "no u". after years of trying to become a music producer, you still have an absurdly surface-level perception of music. you don't "read between the lines" about how studio hardware was used to help make successful songs sound interesting. you don't even understand using plugins to emulate that hardware. if you knew what's good for you, you would rethink this whole producing thing because you don't even have the most basic normie intuition that successful artists have an impressive sound which would require exceptional genius talent for someone to make on their own in a bedroom studio. instead, you think that the artists don't sound impressive, that you just need to nail the songwriting and then you can pretty much just bullshit your way through the production process. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT, FUCKFACE
>>131167174>NO UYeah, whatever buddy. Whatever you need to feel validated
>>131167801thanks for proving my point with yet another NPC response from the most clear example of an actual foolish idiot i've ever seen in my life
>>131167837>of an actual foolish idiot i've ever seen in my lifeSAAAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE OMNISPHERE
>>131167842yes please spend hundreds of dollars on software you can download for free while being clueless about hardware and plugins that emulate hardware that you could have bought instead
Those who speak loudest often have nothing to say.
>>131169219you actually have nothing to say, you're a parasite who's trying to extract useful advice from anons while offering nothing in return. if you ever say something, it just reveals what a fucking clueless tard you are. your huge ego is unjustified, you haven't exhibited any higher-level thinking abilities. you don't really learn anything after years and years. it's valid to give up on fl studio if you have a reason (pun not intended, heh) to do so but you're like a baby who wants mommy to decide for you which DAW to use, it shows what a severe lack of understanding you have of music production.
>>131156234I have the One+It's increfible for finger drumming and doubles as a midi controller although the screen response sucks dick for micro-edits.
>>131114048Yeah we can tell jfc try enabling a filter
>>131167594>Im curious why you're not using something more modernI use Reaper for live instrument stuff. This was an exercise in nostalgia. I'm using it now because I used it back in 2002
Brevity is the soul of wit.
>>131169300>who's trying to extract useful advice from anonsWhat do you think these threads are for
>>131171357Don't talk to it, please, it's just AI generated nonsense that constantly contradicts itself. Hide the posts.
i’m going to use samples now and i won’t feel bad about it>smugfrog.png
>>131171767I think you mean>smugfrog.wav
>>131171767sameusing drum loops nownobody cares as long as the coposition sounds good
>>131169219>>131148279I'm a big fan of your work
I feel completely burnt out on making anything lately. Maybe it’s because I work a lot more now but what do you guys do when you feel like that? I don’t really want to take a break because I don’t feel like for me that’ll solve anything
>>131173164have a perpetual anxiety attack like right nowalso work on polishing old material or switch to focusing on a specific task like sound design or recreating others' songs etc so it's not a complete waste of time
uh huuuuh xx https://vocaroo.com/1hx1Dv4FVZhp
>>131160639I am not really very good at either but I found ableton really easy to get started in because of it's clear 1:1 mapping of mixer channels to tracks, and it was really easy to route MIDI and audio to external gear, but on the other hand, being able to route and link things all over the place in FL and it's really good piano roll and better stock plugins kind of make me prefer FL for everything except external gear setups.FL has some weird quirks like certain plugins that are mixer effects that don't really belong there but don't have any other place to go>control surfaces>formula controllers (love these things)>fruity scratcher>and you can't have your audio in and out be different drivers for some reason...
>>131160639This guy usually has decent videos using Ableton and I've found his trance tutorials pretty helpful, though I haven't watched this specific one so I can't say how helpful it is (idk what genre it even is)https://youtu.be/VJZDPTIcTeI
>>131173390>FL has some weird quirks like certain plugins that are mixer effects that don't really belong thereThis is true. Maybe the problem is I just need to bite the bullet and invest in controllers for the type of stuff I want to make because it feels tedious whenever I try doing so with just a keyboard and mouse
>>131105230reviewbrah
Another fine release by /g/Lennart Poettering and the Goblet of Onionshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNnSQrV6EIEDownloads: https://dmpproductions.org/albums/
https://vocaroo.com/1n8ajUhpr18L Wanted to do something like scifi horror/suspense like being chased through a corridor for a scene or some shit
>>131161212>>131163563>>131173289Yummy. I really like the first and third.Glad the links were still alive; I thought /prod/ was dead and I just glazed over the MJ photo in the catalog and didn't bother ctrl+f'ing.Are you going to put your sample pack on splice or gumtree or something?
Any ideas on improving this mix?https://vocaroo.com/13zocQuyd36D
how organized is your samples folderbe honest
I've been putting a 30min timer 2 or 3 times in a row a day and I've never been this productive. Also, I've been writing composition ideas with pen and paper and it's for the best.
>>131175652>Are you going to put your sample pack on splice or gumtree or something?no and the quota thing was a larpi spent like a week making a few hundred one shots of mostly drum and bass just because i've been having trouble getting back into making tunes. there was no plan other than trying to be productive in some way
i really want to upload a segment of my song for feedback but my vocals fucking suck, it would just be a humiliation ritual
what if I AM the little piss baby? 8(https://vocaroo.com/1dwDRz4g13Tt
https://vocaroo.com/1uS2kJ8HQ5wY\m/
>>13112057510m already exist of those, better to invent something new like a Flancxu
>>131122776Download a drumming plug in like Addictive Drums two, lay out some metal drum loops then record yourself playing over them
made some dubs, needs cutting thoughhttps://vocaroo.com/14V82sNuWyo5
>no recs on mineKill. Yourselves.
>AI stem separation now exists>there hasn't been a sample-based music revolution yetWhat gives?
>>131182223there has been for years and years you're just not cool enough to have noticed it
>>131182223Those vsts or software are not free
when is this spammer cuck going to stop flooding the threads with his cuckness
I think I am going to try and learn how to use Sytrus. This thing is kind of intimidating as a noob, but I really like how it sounds. I've tried some stuff using Vital and it's fairly intuitive, but I tend to be a bit unhappy with how most stuff sounds, even presets made by others. There's a certain quality to it that I just don't like and can't properly describe... just sounds a bit... cheap, or something. Does anyone else find this? Is that just a skill issue on my part?
>>131183541Maybe the sound of FM?Sytrus is pretty solid. You can look up this guy SeamlessR's tutorials on it, they are old but good
>>1311835411000% a skill issue but you should def learn sytrus
>>131183541>There's a certain quality to it that I just don't like and can't properly describe... just sounds a bit... cheap, or something.this an amateur hobbyist thread, you're not allowed to hear nuances in soundhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-vIeA7yy6Qhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVAdhkIPz8I
I've been told that a 37-key MIDI controller wouldn't be enough to learn how to play piano but I have been making good progress at my learning journey until now. Cheers. We are all gonna make it, poorfags bros.
i’m the only good producer ITT
>>131183917Post music I'll be the judge
>>131183997i’m here to educate the stupid anons, i don’t need your approval
https://equipboard.com/items/vital#artistUsage12 known users, all literal whos. meanwhile:https://equipboard.com/items/xfer-serum-advanced-wavetable-synthesizer#artistUsage
basically it's indisputable evidence that you're fucking retards who have nothing going for you in the music biz, you don't have tangible skills when you can't tell that vital sounds like dogshit compared to serum.
There is clearly no music
Any tips for a beginner on learning how to layer melodies? I can make a fine enough little melody by itself but I really struggle with finding other melodies and sounds to put on top of what I already have
I quadtracked my guitars and the performances are lined up nicely, ive done varied eq parameters to create separation, i have panned them accordingly to their characters and performances, and have done a little bus processing to tie them together, yet it still sounds like a fuzzy wall of noise with no distinct flavour or clarity. Is it a normal practice to reduce the gain on the distortion/amp when quadtracking? Im usually running full sustain on the big muff and boosting it with ts9 tube screamer.
>>131184459nick mira has several charting hits bro wtf lol
>>131174689runescape music
>>131185951Have you tried using different kinds of distortion? Like overdrive + fuzz? idk
organizing my samples folder feels good mang
>>131185951you made them each too big and indistinct
>>131187465This. When I quad track, I make them very distinct. Main is distortion, lower, bass-y, and with a certain microphone. The other two are clangy, higher, and more treble. This is for metal, though. So not sure which genre you're aiming for
>>131187574>>131187465this applies to all layering ever btw
“oh boy i wonder what airwindows sunday has in st-“i NEED another random ass k reverb chris come the fuck on
