Bartok edition.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx_4xDA2w0AThis thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://rentry.org/classicalgenPrevious: >>131100131
Arnold Bax "Spring Fire" Symphony-Symphonic Poem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UViIGvRTg4k
>>131132774Has Bartok written anything as good as his string quartets?
>>131132875>bartok>goodbait should be believable.
>>131129878Here's the 100% accurate assessment>S tierFantaisie, 7, 8, 9, 10, Vers la flamme>A tier3, 4, 5>B tierAllegro appassionato, 2>C tier1, 6
>>131132875His Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta is a seminal masterpiece.
Scriabin's music only appeals to the mentally ill and / or morall degenerates.
>>131133046yes, and?
>>131133046To be sane in a world of madmen is in itself madness.
To be mad in a world of sanemen is in itself saneness.
>>131133035Thanks.
>>131132774GOAT Bruckner 8https://youtu.be/YNona1BCvkY?si=BkgDuBKMsr8McVRM
Liszthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15FFTHQMkqM
>>131132990Incorrect. It is not even balanced. My tierlist is the only objectively correct one >>1311307024th mogs everything else, except the fantasy perhaps.
sex is really just a Concerto for vagina & penis when you think about it.
>>131133373It's more a lieder
Best classical for bottoms?Best classical for tops?Best classical for sides?
this man is about to conduct your favorite piece of music, how fucked are you?
>>131133368Rankings need to be truthful; it doesn't matter if they're "balanced" or not. Putting 3 in C tier and 8 in B tier makes your ranking complete doo-doo.
>>131133368Best performance of the 4th?
>>131134231>how fucked are you?like getting ridden by my ex Destiny
Fauréhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EfRtpPyaNQ
>>131134455https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic17q_r7Ch8&list=OLAK5uy_mb_WfS0l5k0IJqCNmL9otkOsFqwNTkgOk&index=2Lots of great ones tho
>>131133094Lol sounds like something a feminist would say. Thanks for the laugh, Scriautist.
>>131131837I actually ended up enjoying the entirety of Bohm's Gotterdammerung and fell asleep minutes after it ended. It was the peak hedonistic experience.
>>131134455Indubitably, inarguably, out of the question-ingly, beyond the shadow of any doubt whatsoever, Feinberg.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NKa-hNQm-QIn fact, this is by far, the single greatest Scriabin performance of all. Scriabin nororiously has very few good interpreters, Feinberg is the absolute GOAT, Sofronitsky can kiss his ass all day.>>131134829Incorrect. Terrible post, I'm disappointed with you.>>131134442Incorrect. C is not even a 'bad' tier or whatever, it's a relative tierlist.
>>131135183I'd respect your opinion more if you actually heard more than three sets for any given piece of repertoire.
>>131133373It's chamber music actually
Is it Boulez day or something?Radiofrance Classique just played ten recordings by him in a row.
now playingstart of Schubert: String Quartet No. 14 in D Minor, D. 810https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy4YjQUsun4&list=OLAK5uy_nSgNKxdeExZR3Ysvh5ExEaNETLbBmVaCI&index=2start of Schubert: String Quartet No. 6 in D Major, D. 74:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_nHchHLT-c&list=OLAK5uy_nSgNKxdeExZR3Ysvh5ExEaNETLbBmVaCI&index=6Schubert: Minuet in D Major, D. 86https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XysxRFDgHKc&list=OLAK5uy_nSgNKxdeExZR3Ysvh5ExEaNETLbBmVaCI&index=9https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nSgNKxdeExZR3Ysvh5ExEaNETLbBmVaCI
I really do not like the singing in Barenboim's Tannhauser.
>>131135191I have heard at least a dozen, if not 20+, but whatever helps you sleep at nights anon. I don't need anyone's "respect".I actually thought Hamelin's was good back then, the coda is brutal. The problem is that it's artless, he does not understand Scriabin, nor does Sudbin, and you.
>>131134455>>131135694https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxW16rYS75c&list=OLAK5uy_kn9ObtpxjTDkGA0wD4gQuO0IPWZ1Piy-c&index=2
>Leaked documents show the SVR, Russia's primary foreign intelligence agency -- equivalent to their CIA -- would attempt to break people detained for interrogation by loudly playing over Bose speakers an eclectic mix of modern classical, including Schoenberg, Boulez, Penderecki, Messiaen, Ligeti, and Charles Ives. When asked why this putative auditory torture playlist did not include Schnittke, one Kremlin source stated "he is hero to Russia.'damn this is just made-up for humor btw
>>131132875Bluebeard's Castle is nice.
>>131132875Piano Concertos, Violin Concertos, Rhapsodies, Violin Sonatas (and 44 Duo for Violin), Concerto for Orchestra, Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta, The Miraculous Mandarin, Divertimento for String Orchestra, The Wooden Prince, Contrasts, for clarinet, violin and pianoNow, as good as his string quartets is a tall order. For that, probably just the piano concertos, concerto for orchestra, music for spc, mandarin, and divertimento, depending what you like.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3Gv37DzsEQ&list=OLAK5uy_n5u5_IQt1rrXafXopir63pIUzPM2PtNc4&index=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNyUZXSj1XM&list=OLAK5uy_mhC3_Qrn9-hIL9NdEjr-L8BaIxU-E8wCk&index=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKnWNPLytDk&list=OLAK5uy_nyd8oCrzt_RtZuWboRf9S7S-0ddvpNHA0&index=4Enjoy!
>>131136259The rhapsodies, the divertimento for strings and the wooden prince are mid.
>>131135694As with moth 3rd rate composers like Scriabin, Hamelin does a better job than most at making their work interesting.
>bartok editionnow playingstart of Bartók: Music for Strings, Percussion & Celesta, Sz. 106https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4cq8y64Tgs&list=OLAK5uy_n7ct2_OZzfCwWHxYzFyczt0KEX1q6lL-8&index=2start of Bartók: Divertimento for Strings, Sz. 113https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvCOPnV00lk&list=OLAK5uy_n7ct2_OZzfCwWHxYzFyczt0KEX1q6lL-8&index=6Bartók: The Miraculous Mandarin, Suite, Sz. 73https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrWvTD_aDhg&list=OLAK5uy_n7ct2_OZzfCwWHxYzFyczt0KEX1q6lL-8&index=8https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n7ct2_OZzfCwWHxYzFyczt0KEX1q6lL-8
>>131136371Your disparaging comment notwithstanding, I don't think there's a single piece of standard repertoire of which Hamelin does a first-rate job. His primary appeal, in my view, is providing an gratifying performance of professional quality to composers and repertoire not often recorded.
>Anda/Fricsay>Zimerman-Ansnes-Grimaud/Boulez>Bronfman/Salonen>Bavouzet/Noseda>Ashkenazy/Solti>Donohoe/Rattle>Kovacevich/Davis>Aimard/Salonen>Kocsis/Ivan Fischer>Jando/Ligeti>Schiff/Ivan Fischer>Roge/Weller>Sandor/Adam FischerWhat's /classical/'s preference for Bartok's Piano Concertos?This is complete cycles only, so no partial sets like Serkin/Ozawa or Barenboim/Boulez or Pollini/Abbadohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi5O-Gjugj8&list=OLAK5uy_ndwyW2fDDEeTjwp0kY68kWsLPhFBY5MZs&index=1
>>131136509I haven't diven deep into these works yet, but when it comes to Bartok and the piano I tend to place my trust in Zoltan Kocsis.
>>131136350>the divertimento for strings... [is] midI'm a sucker for soupy string orchestra slop, sue me
>>131136259Yeah, I listened to the two violin sonatas after the string quartets and didn't like them too much. I was hoping all of his chamber music is as good as the quartets, but I guess I'll try the concertos and orchestral stuff. Thanks.
>>131135183>Incorrect. C is not even a 'bad' tier or whatever, it's a relative tierlist.Doesn't matter. It's absolute nonsense to put those two sonatas in those two tiers, no matter how you look at it.
>>131134829Too much fluctuation. Not enough ecstasy.>>131135183Too old. Shitty quality ruins it. But obviously the best out of the replies I got.>>131135714Messy as fuck. There's like a dozen of these Scriabin piano sonata sets from completely random pianists nobody has ever heard about, and they're always an unsurprisingly disappointing mixture of sterile and sloppy.I only listen to the coda from Scriabin 4 to determine whether a recording is good enough. Sometimes I start to think that the piece isn't that good because I can't find a single recording that does it justice completely.
>>131136948something differenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSOXeAWT93I&list=OLAK5uy_lfnwkAJmKzxZI8m3GVXLP-XmptztLHy7Q&index=10
now playingstart of Shostakovich: Symphony No. 7 in C Major, Op. 60, "Leningrad"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-1x8SoDopw&list=OLAK5uy_nB5eVhfIN4xjWVRumqDDWQF3fTsdy2N0s&index=1https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nB5eVhfIN4xjWVRumqDDWQF3fTsdy2N0s>The Seventh often comes in for a bad press but it’s a work I enjoy hearing, especially in concert performance. Michael Sanderling profits from knowing this orchestra so well, shaping the music outstandingly, taking full advantage of the Philharmonie’s energy and enthusiasm. In the vast and infamous opening movement Allegretto, which might easily depict ‘Warfare’, there are accounts of more savagery. Nevertheless, this is thrilling playing, making a forceful impression that drew me into the threatening sound world. Especially successful is the swirling Adagio, with Sanderling revealing a stark picture of the hostile landscapes of the Russian winter. The final movement, Allegro non troppo, efficaciously builds an increasing degree of tension, providing a highly charged closing passage. ---- Michael Cookson, MusicWeb
>>131134455Zhukov
>hey Brunnhilde... how's it hangin'??
>>131136792Incorrect. It is the only place they belong. Good, but not great.>>131136948>Shitty quality ruins it.You asked, and let me repeat, exactly this:>Best performance of the 4th?>performanceDon't make this another /classical/ -cambridge dictionary crossover, we all know what it means. Feinberg has the best performance. In fact the only good one. If your sissy ears aren't adjusted to hear delicate subtelty of the golden-age masters because of some hiss, that's none of my concerns.
Stephen Hough recorded Scriabin 4 and 5https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2O9ryo8b5U&list=OLAK5uy_lCJa62MDPwBH3PR9-LPxYGr_QmfARbJPQ&index=17It also contains a Vers la flamme.>>131136948
Do we have any obsessive audiophile autists here? I want to download Barbirolli's "English string music" album and there are 2 torrents on RThttps://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1219349https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5489778The first is a rip of a standalone CD from the 2000s, the second is part of an EMI compilation from the 2010s. Presumably the latter should be better remastered (new=good? idk), but it sounds grottier and more sussurus-y than the former. Is there a way of testing definitively which is best?
>>131132774So where in SATB do you anons fall into?
>>131137630This is my comfortable range, untrained, don't know how far in either direction I could extend it.
>>131135887I'll admit I kind of like Messiaen sometimes
>>131137678I'll admit I only started singing earlier this year. I was told by a music instructor that I had pretty good range being Bass and Tenor, though I haven't quite sung while playing the piano so I couldn't given an exact range like what you just posted. Also I have relative pitch
>>131137861Sometimes I think about starting singing lessons but I always get self-conscious about my neighbors hearing me practice.
>>131137931It's not a bad quirk for a neighbor so as long as it isn't late at night. I mostly practice during choir practice and not at home but I do it sometimes
That WTC = OT / B. 32 = NT analogy doesn't hold up.
WTC = City of God / B. 32 = Summa Theologica
WTC is good background music.
Scriabin: Complete Piano Music
>>131138383Languishing junk
>>131138256Beethoven's sonatas are not.
>>131138411Honey we weren't discussing Bach
Scriabin = dull formalism
Dull formalism = Bach, Beethoven and BrahmsMozart is the good formalist, the 3 B's are mid.
>>131138672>Bach>Complete Piano Music?
was gonna go out but the air quality outside is poor and all smoky, so kinda get sedated and listen to classical music all evening and read
now playingstart of Beethoven: String Quartet No. 12 in E-Flat Major, Op. 127https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGPaqI5o5Qs&list=OLAK5uy_lAGOYAu2Cv-QbjP4Gf-e2Pl_jx6HzjADo&index=46start of Beethoven: String Quartet No. 14 in C-Sharp Minor, Op. 131https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSONSDT2BGc&list=OLAK5uy_lAGOYAu2Cv-QbjP4Gf-e2Pl_jx6HzjADo&index=49https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lAGOYAu2Cv-QbjP4Gf-e2Pl_jx6HzjADo
>>131138869what do u listen to while reading and what do u read
>>131138753Scriabin used sonata “form” explicitly as a crutch to make his static/post-tonal harmony digestible. Sonata “form” as a schemata didn’t even enter the musical conscious until well into the 19th century. For Mozart and Beethoven it was a flexible, natural idiom.
>>131138985Sounds pretty based. Music before 19th century didn't even exist so
>>131138977Whatever. It helps me focus -- or rather, gives me something 'safe' to turn my attention to whenever my focus momentarily drifts, since the reading is the main activity. When I wanna actually listen to the music, I don't read books during (though I do read something mindless on the internet).
>>131139006>comes into thread about 14th - 20th century music
>>131139185>14th - 20th century musicthat's illegal
>>131139006You people make me sick.
I'm surprised Philip Glass' Etudes aren't more popular here.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNMNqsFkm5s&list=OLAK5uy_n8ES5cvf3ZQjCd1dVOJzg4wLShiX3WGZw&index=5
diff recording of Glass' Etudeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gPnTCa0Clc&list=OLAK5uy_kWDKMg6W84UZ9s04zxh8guX-xzecrHdLY&index=2On the flip side, it's strange, whenever something modern attempts to be completely straightforward and accessible in form and tone, it comes across as somewhat kitsch. I suppose that's just the effect of being inundated with all these sources of modern music. Take the linked Etude above, it sounds like it could be a Portishead track, playing in the background of some commercial or opening of a TV drama.or maybe that's just me.
Revolutionary etude is the GOAT etude
>find my favorite recording of a piece>it's only available as a youtube video and never released as a proper album in higher quality
I realised I only pretend to like Robert Schumann cause y'all tell me to.He actually kinda sucks.
Would anyone have the booklet for this? Doesn't seem to be up on discogs and I'm not sure where else I'd even look.
Would anyone be so kind to help me find the name of this piece?It plays in a show about vampires, and it has been stuck in my head for almost a week now.https://files.catbox.moe/u9ony9.MP3 no voicehttps://files.catbox.moe/fj7yd6.mp3 masteredI've tried almost every single "song recognizer" tool, to no avail.
Best Eroica? No Szell, please.
>>131142305https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmSC4cTOltU&list=OLAK5uy_nUoChH6QKRNkIh6OVU8S-sP_saNfxZgwo&index=1
>>131142305Mackerras or Bernstein
>>131141773Just sounds like vampire organ music, not classical.
>>131137226Can't be the best performance if you can't hear half of the shit and you have to hallucinate some notes and chords. There's a difference between an imperfect old recording and a shitty old recording. That fits into the latter category.>we all know what it meansMaybe if we were all as autistic as you, yeah. But generally, people who aren't total spergs also have consideration for recording quality. I really shouldn't have expected too much from you.
There's too much good music! All at the same time, I want to listen to Beethoven's string quartets, Schubert's piano sonatas, Bruckner's symphonies, Brahms' piano trios, Bach's cello suites, Chopin's Nocturnes, Wagner's operas, Schumann's lieder, Dvorak's concerti... but one must choose, to the relinquishment of the others. Such is life.
There's so many Boccherini string quintets, so little time...
>>131143399It'd be good living to be a Boccherini academic.
I keep trying to work out a joke involving the name of Bach's Ricecar piece but so far I've got nothin'.
>>131143173>if you can't hear half of the shit and you have to hallucinate some notes and chords.Deaf confirmed.
>>131143399good thing they all sound the same then ;)
>>131143984I'm not surprised I need to spell this out for you because you're such a gargantuan peak Dunning-Kruger retard, but on shitty old recordings, notes get lost under background tape hiss, chords become blended together into a fuzzy wall of sound, and very high and low pitches fade out because old microphones couldn't catch them.
>>131144111Only if you're deaf.
>>131144634Yep, pretty deaf alright.
>>131142305This one
>>131139563They really shouldn't have named album Glassworlds for works of a composer who wrote Glassworks, especially because the album does not have this piece. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Stu7h7Qup8
>>131144822You are, yeah.
>>131145237>no uDidn't know deafness comes with lack of creativity but I'm not entirely surprised.
>>131145305I'm sure you know a lot about that, yeah.
>>131144822>absolutely no argumentI accept your concession, by the way.
I love how massive Klemperer's mid 60's recording sounds of Das Lied, but his earlier recording from 1951 has such a better rhythmic flow to it. It's also 12 minutes shorter.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHuUKCuovQs
>>131145430>>131145438Don't break your mind over being deaf so much, anon.
>>131144968>royal danish orchestralmfao
>>131142305carl schuricht (paris) or paul van kempen (berlin)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcfxxtl4KLw&t=399sI still don't understand why every single country just didn't surrender to Germany after Lohengrin was first staged. What is the point? What were they all hoping? What were all the major powers thinking? That they still stand a chance? That music and culture can now be surpassed? That is impossible. Music is finished. Music has ended. The Germans should have been given the reigns to the entire earth, every single country should have knelt. Every creed, ideology, ambition and philosophy should have been replaced by Wagnerian worship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnVqoiCH7N4Many scholars have often argued that regardless of his Christian afflictions, Wagner privately worshipped the god Dionysus or Bacchus in his roman orientation. He was fascinated by the Greek culture, reading countless books centered around Greek Mythos and cities like Ithaca, Sparta and Athens. He saw the German culture in decline, often saying how Jews have modernized and raped the very foundation of art. Beseeched by Bacchus and guided by Odin, Wagner undertook the arduous journey of restoring what he called European music and tradition.
>>131144672boccherini's music is so strictly diatonic that it becomes boring almost immediately
>>131145774with Klemperer at the helm, it's spectacular
Volkmannhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5LDVRFoMgY
What are the most wagner inspired operas after wagner?
>>131145929palestrina
>>131145929Strauss, Salome
>>131145929Pretty much all of them. But I came across one of the GOAT pianists' - Paderewski's - operas which is said to be influenced by Wagner so I'll share it with you, although I'm not a huge opera fan so I still haven't checked it out myself.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manru>Influenced by Wagnerian music drama combined with traditional Slavic and Romani (Gypsy) folk elementsLet me know if you like it.
>>131145182It's on volume 1 I believe!
>>131145929Try Franz Schreker's operas,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIOrHRU_L30&list=OLAK5uy_nntRKll8QxiijHcUbOg0IgUi2NmmPGweo&index=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBJBJZg8uPM&list=OLAK5uy_k2W-JCw7ZLEhoKnRyXqGTKTxhj5wMuiyY&index=1
Mozarthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXCQZFW3u3M
>>131145832It's not strictly diatonic, and even if it were, it's a good thing that there's more to music than whether it's diatonic or chromatic. Boredom is a subjective state of the listener.
Mozarthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUD8G2cReTY&list=OLAK5uy_mXfFGwQwdYe3oY7TNJV5q6BMx8ce0jOFo&index=9
Anyone familiar with this cycle of Schubert's string quartets? Thoughts?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QYcLfIeBPI&list=OLAK5uy_ktaLt44sFlLkZqa0EQ4W2ddSj5exISDKs&index=21>As a young chorister, the fourteen-year-old Franz Schubert penned his first string quartets, a genre that he would continue to explore until the last years of his life. Fifteen quartets, of remarkable originality and bewitching lyricism, entered into history, bearing at once the legacy of the Classical Era and a vision of the future. These works are marked by the tides of life - disillusion, illness, but also the flourishing of a magisterial mind. "The communion with a confidential soul, the discovery of indescribable colors, the admiration of a remarkable message whose ideas never cease to evolve and inspire... This is part of a distinctive journey that will leave an everlasting mark upon us. The recording of the Octet two years ago was just the initial building block of a project dear to us, one that we now see fulfilled through this immersion dedicated to Schubert."Gonna give it a listen myself.
>>131145786Is Lohengrin a good start to Wagner?
>>131147745Most definitely. Pretty much just not Parsifal.
>>131147745The best start to Wagner is THIS.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39KqWiKStoM&list=PL_hEkGSdpnzRg3xyJiXQffq5YdbrDlWlA
>>131147758But what if if like vocal music more than instrumental music
>>131147782Hm... then I would recommend Das Rheingold.
>>131145549It really is astonishing how much Klemperer slowed down with age. His 1951 Mahler 2 with the Concertgebouw is 30 (thirty) minutes shorter than his final New Philarmonia recording two decades later. And it flows much better.
>>131145549>>131148122>the obscure bootleg with compromised sound quality is superior to the more famous and highly acclaimed recordingya'll just being contrarians> His 1951 Mahler 2 with the Concertgebouw is 30 (thirty) minutes shorter than his final New Philarmonia recording two decades later. That can't be right, the renowned Philharmonia recording is already pretty fast. You're saying the one you posted is only 50 min long? No way.
Wagnerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI3QqNpJ_s0
>>131148168>That can't be right, the renowned Philharmonia recording is already pretty fast.You're thinking of the 1961 studio recording, I was referring to thishttps://youtube.com/watch?v=nywfTwe759kBut yes, the Concertgebouw one is very swift.
>>131148228Gotta say, I didn't know Klemperer had other Mahler 2 recordings.>1hr40minshiiii-!I'll check out that and your preferred one, thanks.
tannhauser? i hardly know her!
>>131148122phenomenal recording>>131148168Both performances had official releases. Das Lied was through Vox, the 2nd was through Decca. Through the 20th century, performances of Mahler started to slow down significantly and they don't sound nearly as good to me.As an aside: Klemperer's 1951 recording of Beethoven's Missa Solemnis is also my preferred vs. his legendary New Philharmonia recording. Don't get me wrong, that one's great too, but the 1951 is sublime
I feel like listening through a cycle of Beethoven's cello sonatas. The question is, do I opt for a old classic set performed by famous and established musicians or go for a new release with a possibly fresh interpretive approach on these familiar pieces?option 1: Starker/Sebok, recorded in 1959https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrt9eW3QrFk&list=OLAK5uy_nW0bIZDySG8smwAPjLH8VkoGfpmOf0aS8&index=14option 2: Bax/Watkins, came out this year, recorded in 2024https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmQU9Zi46Eo&list=OLAK5uy_kK4zIqrGZUAGa2odvTg-PtYZJ1D4tXT28&index=7decisions, decisions...
>>131148475>Both performances had official releases. Das Lied was through Vox, the 2nd was through Decca.Hmm, didn't know that. I'll give the one you posted a try this evening, thanks.
>>131131450I fucking loved them, especially the first which is full of drama and sentiment, and the last, which is almost macabre and in a very advanced harmonic language, comparatively. But they're all great. The fifth and sixth also have some very heartfelt slow movements
now playingstart of York Bowen: Cello Sonata in A Major, Op. 64https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL2mTtJ_2dY&list=OLAK5uy_ks72DwrYw3a3QDtCOzxnuciYSfwu48604&index=2start of Arnold Bax: Cello Sonata in E-Flat Major, GP 265https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTKLNN3oTCA&list=OLAK5uy_ks72DwrYw3a3QDtCOzxnuciYSfwu48604&index=5start of John Ireland: Cello Sonata in G Minorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAeg1raZNVg&list=OLAK5uy_ks72DwrYw3a3QDtCOzxnuciYSfwu48604&index=7https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ks72DwrYw3a3QDtCOzxnuciYSfwu48604>Paul Watkins, an exclusive Chandos artist, returns to his series of British works for cello and piano, playing sonatas by York Bowen, John Ireland and Sir Arnold Bax. He is accompanied by his brother, Huw Watkins. International Record Review wrote of volume one, 'This is a marvelous release: For the intriguing music, the superb performances and the first-class sound.'No clue who this York Bowen composer is. Turns out the British can into cello music! If you're like me and always on the lookout for lesser-known chamber music, including cello and violin sonatas, this is a pretty cool release.
wagner is trash, also maho more like my whore
hot take: Schubert's 21st Piano Sonata, the famed D. 960, is immensely overrated. Yeah it's good but not one of the handful of greatest piano sonatas of all-time.
>>131132875what the fuck kind of question is that?>>131132899>>131136350get better
>>131148571I like Wagner, he can be neat.
>>131148633I don't give a fuck what you like
>>131148642Rude
>>131148661fuck off
don't bully the my whore poster, pleaseMozarthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbLc8WHtJlU
>>131148589It's top 3 for sure, along with Chopin's 3rd and Beethoven's 30th.
>>131148746Didn't you hear him say "hot take"? That means if you don't agree with him you're a rube and a sheep
>>131148589Agreed. I love Schubert's music, but sometimes it feels too bloated and repetitive.
>>131148784It's not a hot take, lowbrows tend to get filtered by true masterworks including Schubert's. Beethoven is an exception since he's the pop icon of clsssical music.
>>131149201woosh
>>131148746>along with Chopin's-opinion immediately disregarded
>>131148680:(
>>131149291don't reply to my posts, scum
>>131149304basedfuck avatar fagsfuck any sort of Xfag actually
Avatarfags, namefags, tripfags, anyone who comes with a gimmick "persona": Attention whores that should be executed. If you enable them, you should meet the same fate.
>>131143399I went through nearly 80 hours of music by Boccherini earlier this year and am now in the middle of Reger's ~45. You can do it, anon.
>>131139563>I'm surprised contempo trash, especially the (((NY School))) isn't more popular here.why
Celibidachebros we won
>>131149304>>131149309>>131149339All this fucking general is is gimmickfags, you'd be executing everyone here
>>131149522Keep telling yourself that, also put your trip back on, faggot
>>131148696Mozart is the GOAThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk0jm8LPZMA
>>131149221Lowbrow moment
>>131149522good>>131149847chopin, debussy and russian slop is all that "lowbrow" classical music fans listen to
>>131149519won what? a shitty movie trying to pass our conductor off as anything but a hack?
>>131150260granted, but dismissing him outright is just as bad if not worse. The tune to ode to joy is literally the most famous and well known tune of all time, but if that's grounds to you for dismissing Beethoven altogether then you're lowbrow at best
>>131149519>Celibidache biopicLmao, who the fuck asked for this? I'd understand if it were somebody interesting, like Karajan or Furtwangler or Bernstein, but why him?
god I fucking hate biopics what utter wank
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63WceWnpsHM
>>131150408Maybe John is a big fan.
now playingstart of Bartok: Piano Concerto No. 1, Sz. 83https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi5O-Gjugj8&list=OLAK5uy_ndwyW2fDDEeTjwp0kY68kWsLPhFBY5MZs&index=2start of Bartok: Piano Concerto No. 2, Sz. 95https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHpkTgOXuks&list=OLAK5uy_ndwyW2fDDEeTjwp0kY68kWsLPhFBY5MZs&index=5start of Bartok: Piano Concerto No. 3 in E Major, Sz. 119https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQd7QRPzlDk&list=OLAK5uy_ndwyW2fDDEeTjwp0kY68kWsLPhFBY5MZs&index=7https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ndwyW2fDDEeTjwp0kY68kWsLPhFBY5MZs>Old loyalties die hard, but for all its flash and fire the Kovacevich/Davis recording is no match for the endless subtleties and illumnations of this Warner reissue. Indeed, I’d go so far as to say these are peerless performances, alert, alive, astounding. My only regret is that it’s taken me so long to discover them. ---- Dan Morgan, MusicWebnow that is some high praise
one day i WILL learn to appreciate and enjoy bartok's string quartets
>>131151515anon from the bottom of my heart I sincerely hope so
French Baroque. French Medieval, French Impressionism, French Modernism, in Fact just make everything French and it'll be good
>>131151654Post 37 examples of each
>>131151654I unironically like Rameau more than Mozart and Couperin as much as Bach, that's how good French Baroque is
>>131151654Correcte.
>>131151687no, that's how deaf you are
>>131151654Poulenc is the last great composer.
>>131151829Poulenc is trash; listen to Milhaud and Honegger
>>131146456Only intro, which is the least interesting part of Glassworks.https://open.spotify.com/album/6bJOntRj4XxGw6q8ZRcKrG
>>131151515What recordings have you tried?
>>131151848Stop being deaf
>Jean Catoire Complete Piano Workswho dat?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKbqDVxX2gg&list=OLAK5uy_mOT-jw78KDVMagl7SL6DYzTTCarQgT13g&index=3>Jean Catoire was a French composer of contemporary classical music. He studied with Olivier Messiaen and developed a personal style that was spiritual in outlook; in this regard his output is comparable to that of the Estonian composer Arvo Pärt. He was prolific, producing 604 opus numbers by 1996.
>>131151900I'm not >>131151687
>>131151909>contemporarydropped
Good cello programming.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEENd0E014w
Ravel > Saint-Saëns > Poulenc > Debussy > the rest
>>131151909>>131151929On a cursory listen, seems like it'd be ideal for fans of Messiaen and Feldman.
>>131151957Don't disrespect Messiaen like that, cunt
>>131151951Poulenc is not good
>filtered by Poulenc kinda sad ngl
>>131152026It literally says he studied with Messien!
>>131152147And?
>>131152075>thinks Poulenc is goodabsolutely tragic, in truth
Johann Baptist Joseph Maximilian Reger> The Fifth sonata is a work from Reger's maturity. It is cast in three movements of which the second, an allegretto, lasts less than three minutes. The opening allegro moderato is a movement of great intensity which is performed here with all the necessary feeling and virtuosity. In the succeeding allegretto Reger deliberately relaxes the tension and this little movement offers a welcome and necessary interlude between the larger, much more serious outer movements. The finale combines two of Reger's favourite forms, an andante theme and seven variations followed by a lively fugue. Like the rest of the music on this disc it is delivered by the artists with the utmost commitment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3wzNBSfOqMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXzNlpHg20ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ou4HE9Tet4
>>131152164Just super saiyan'.
>>131152876oh just blurting out random shit like a mumbling retard, gotcha
>>131152965...I mean it's also French, modernist, abstract, and spiritual. I think the comparison is obvious! Quit being so obtuse.
>>131152985Quit having shit in your ear canals.>abstract>spiritualGive me a fucking break
>>131152993Did you peep the link?
>>131152999>did you even listen to the thing we've been arguing overWho do you take me for
>>131153059>Who do you take me forMr Obtuse, the Obtuser, aka the one who Obstuses
ACTUAL best recording of Beethoven's "Eroica" symphony? no Szell, no Steins or Bergs please, thanks
>>131153087https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQVDdu7_JDM&list=OLAK5uy_lkJnZo5GO-cATApsMe-MOs1U2ArihoyjM&index=1
>>131153099>Barenboimyou're mentally ill
For me it's all about the development of my own harmonic language, unaffected by academicism.
>>131153108i think that is Yui Hirasawa from the anime "K-On!"hope that answers your question.
>>131153087https://youtu.be/SAdho9rdP2o?si=M7NXo9GbIiIeuJ0n
>Shonberg, but if he was based and redpilled and not brainrotten by academia?Any composers like this?
>>131153171Bartok
>>131153171Anyway, has anyone discovered a 12-tone piece that has an articulate mood not limited to being "le spooky and unsettling"? I remember anons having a research project into 12-tone a few years ago and I would like to see if they came up with anything.
>>131153087see:>>131144968Klemperer’s recordings of the Eroica, even as he slowed with age, are top tier. No one has ever done a better job with the fugue in the finale than Klemperer.
>>131153065kill yourself
>>131153121no one asked>>131153171Berg, Skalkottas, Křenek (between the early '30s and late '50s)
>>131153208these>>131153270and also Trepulka, Von Hannenheim, and arguably Hauer. Really only Schönberg was putting all his chips into the "weird and eerie" factor and Webern, well, I love his stuff, but it can be a bit uncomfortable and hostile if you're not prepared for it
Literal gold
>>131153171Hans Werner Henze
>>131153309>Literal Godsir, that's a mortal man who is actually literally dead
>>131153312He's Darmstadt-pilled and brainrotten by extreme-left politics and post-modernism
>>131153334Anon, we're all postmodernists since we live in the 21st century.
>>131153296Could you please post a youtube link to 12-tone piece that doesn't sound le eerie and actually has a readable and articulate mood beyond that?
>>131153341That's not what's being discussed. Also we left behind post-modernism half a century ago, get with the program
>>131153359Do your own homework. I've given you more than enough pointers as it is. Fuck's sake, you people.
Iveshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MUQNdw8lRU&list=OLAK5uy_maQQmryUoIVyiePA2gPTRzJMRHEHGVlAw&index=1>Barber's string quartet is the source of that famous Adagio for strings, popularized by the movie Platoon in its later arrangement for full string orchestra. It makes an even stronger impression in its original context, sandwiched between two thematically related quicker movements. Ives's two quartets represent the two opposing poles of his character: the early First Quartet is a lyrical work based on hymn tunes, while in the Second all hell breaks loose as the four players literally fling themselves at the music (and each other), until they finally decide--in the words of the composer--to shut up, go out, and view the firmament. The end is suitably cosmic, as are these stunning performances. --David Hurwitz
now playingstart of Szymanowski: 20 Mazurkas, Op. 50https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDztp63cQNA&list=OLAK5uy_miPe2_AtWG7eWs4z6Igle4huBj8n4M4IY&index=2Szymanowski: Valse romantiquehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owxip9gYySM&list=OLAK5uy_miPe2_AtWG7eWs4z6Igle4huBj8n4M4IY&index=22start of Szymanowski: 4 Polish Danceshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL7CG_NR__k&list=OLAK5uy_miPe2_AtWG7eWs4z6Igle4huBj8n4M4IY&index=23start of Szymanowski: 2 Mazurkas, Op. 62https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef21FYyILQs&list=OLAK5uy_miPe2_AtWG7eWs4z6Igle4huBj8n4M4IY&index=26youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_miPe2_AtWG7eWs4z6Igle4huBj8n4M4IY&si=s4rTc5ggtn2Ifyjx
I wish Stravinsky composed more solo piano music. Three Movements from Petrushka is genius.
>>131153424 I could listen to all of 12 tone ever created but I trust you guys and wanted a human opinion on an exact piece.
>>131153087https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPiQm1T0Ihg&list=OLAK5uy_nLjPdgmweidLnCxOfgZnYsP-kCVIBXRCw&index=1
7th symphony is better anyway
>>131153927>t. not heroic
The problem with Naxos is you try to find a new and unfamiliar performance to try by searching the piece on Amazon and you see the Naxos release is one of if not the top choice, but you cannot tell if it's because it's one of the best recordings or because it's the budget label so a lot of people bought it and therefore reviewed and rated it highly. damn. this is the top Ma Vlast result, for example. Wit is pretty good for anything choral but for orchestral? ehhh. So do I listen or keep going down the list? etchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZJwlDPWEkg&list=OLAK5uy_mY2cpSqrgzs8ubjpjwT-7RzWsBsvN_D7A&index=2also nuts, looking this recording up on YouTube Music, the Moldau movement has 24M(!!!) plays, compared to 67k for the first movement and 59k for the third movement (which is a lot more typical for a super popular classical recording on YM). fine I'll give it a try.
>>131153087Mackerras
>>131154103which one? he recorded it twice atleast
best recording of Beethoven's 'Pastorale' symphony?
>>131154252We just went through this! The point is to try several of the most acclaimed cycles and decide based on your own tastes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD-w5b8hLiA&list=OLAK5uy_mMqfp12P8YFe9Rmjz6cTs3-cGPN1KEIEA&index=23
Rachmaninoff's second piano trio completed romanticism.
>>131154453True.
I guess since lately I've been enjoying Schubert's early piano sonatas and string quartets, it's only fair I give his earlier symphonies a revisit.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSdpAqRB4FU
The largest tragedy of Schubert's early death is we didn't get to see his opus number each D. 3000, considering the prolific pace he was on.
>>131150409What's your opinion on biographies? What about autobiographies?
Mendelsussy.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xrY9I0jrJs&list=PLa1rC97wRkZgR9iiL2lOwxY-dg6TugPnf&index=21
>>131155126underrated cycle imobut most Mendelssohn ones are p. good
>>131155069He was on his path to becoming the absolute titanic unsurpassed GOAT so he had to be nerfed. Although in chamber music he IS the GOAT. No one understoood the string instruments better than Schubert, the last 3 quartets remain at the peak.
I just realized for the past week I've thought Schumann's first name was Richard and not Robert. Man my brain really is goin'.
>>131155227>No one understoood the string instruments better than Schubert, the last 3 quartets remain at the peak.then you add the piano quintet and string quintet and piano trios and it's like whoahis duo chamber stuff is pretty good too but aside from the Arpeggione Sonata, none of it is world class
>>131153171Scriabin. He was doing 12 tone shit with Mysterium but died because it was too powerful.
Sometimes the coda of Scriabin's 4th gets stuck in my mind, on repeat like a broken record, and sometimes it's the opening bars, the mysterious, introspective chords of the first movement. It's peak Scriabin.
>>131153171Schoenberg's most important contributions were to theory and academia.have you even read Style and Idea? are you even capable of comprehending just how "based and redpilled" SchoenGOD really was?!S.
>>131155227wronghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBd5cnvqW6ISchubert's orchestration is fantastic, but he's second to Mozart
>>131156890Orchestration? No one commented on orchestration you dumb twat. Neither of them make it even in the top 15. I was talking about string quartet sonority. Your opinions are discarded into the trash immediately anyway so don't bother.
>>131157028also wronghttps://youtu.be/65WyWFPGmzU?si=ihQJcqXkgqbkpDJE>Neither of them make it even in the top 15top kek
>>131157078thank you deaf moron
TOP 17 ORCHESTRATORS1. Ravel2. Mahler3. Stravinsky4. Rimsky-Korsakov5. Florentz6. Wagner7. Tchaikovsky8. Berlioz9. Telemann10. Schostakovich11. Webern12. Skalkottas13. Wagenseil14. Mozart (Leopold)15. Pärt16. Schubert17. Mozart (Wolfgang Amadeus)
>>131154252Monteux.
>>131132774MY BOIIIIIIIIProbably my favourite composer second to Mahlerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ1wQ3I_g_Y
>>131157151>9. TelemannBASED
New Screeb 4 out today.Not bad
>>131157151>no Strauss
is there a single human being who actually sits down and listens to a whole piano sonata by Boulez?
>>131158868Only as part of this recordinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjfmOH_M6gk&list=OLAK5uy_mPr5ALKi-sfr1K5XHoxdU7Z0pl-qW_5m8&index=10Though I usually turn it off after a minute or so, yes.
>>131157028>Mozart>not in the top 15 of orchestration??????
>>131157151I don't understand why Rimsky always rates so highly on these. Is the orchestration in his operas that impressive? Because nice as some of his other pieces are, he severely lacks in quantity, and his symphonies are du-ull.
it really sucks when your favorite composer is beloved mostly by weirdos and losers
>>131158968scriabo? :3
>>131155085>biographiesCan be interesting if the writer knows what the fuck he's doing and is trying not to create a sensation or idolise the subject matter, but generally don't much care for them. Not what I choose to spend my time on, literature-wise>autobiographiesugh, please do go on about how fucking interesting you are, I love listening to people jerk themselves off for hundreds of pages
>doesn't read (auto)biographies so he can emulate the greatsnot gonna make it
>>131158920>I don't understand why Rimsky always rates so highly on theseBecause he was an amazing orchestrator>Is the orchestration in his operas that impressiveYeah>he severely lacks in quantityUtterly unrelated to his being an amazing orchestrator but go off I guess>his symphonies are du-ull.Sounds like a (You) problem
>>131159291>admits to living the life on an imitator and aspiring to nothing more than being an inevitably defective and inferior copy of an idealised persona he experienced third-handgonna make it (to the files and ranks of the disposable, inconsequential and forgettable)
>>131159316You just don't get it. There are good ways of living and poor ways of living. If your sole goal is to be unique in everything you do, you will have a poor quality of life. You gotta learn the good habits from somewhere.
>>131159351>if you don't live the life of an imitator, it must mean you prize pointless originality for the sake of it over anything else. There are no other possible choices in life. This is sound logic, and I am very smart.Even if you weren't mindnumbingly wrong, I'd still rather be original for the sake of being original than devoting my short time on this blue, brown and green earth striving to be as much as some idol I blindly worship as humanly possible. By all means, though, have fun jumping onto the slip-slide to easy oblivion and unfathomable pointlessness.
>>131159397Yeah, just admit you don't like to read.
this kills the anti-biography sisterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvz39UIADLE&list=OLAK5uy_n-DRos36zZydaTNVxBsWaCXuTAfGIaGVo&index=16
>>131159438>i-if you don't like books about my fave rockstars u don't reaaad!!!!!!!!!!!2/10 get better coping mechanisms, copycat
>>131159455>the idolizer is a Lettberg-cuckFuck's sake that explains EVERYTHING. I can't believe I've been posting serious replies to THIS fucking retard.
Rachmaninoffhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuOcZGsCRkM&list=OLAK5uy_nb0GZpeR9EwbSz6H_i9fhS7f7SE8eI_U0&index=1>The pianist Lukas Geniušas has recorded the original version of Rachmaninoff's Piano Sonata no.1 in the composer's Swiss home Villa Senar (Sergei & Natalia Rachmaninoff) and on his own piano, an unusually long Steinway & Sons model, presented to the composer and concert pianist by the manufacturer to mark his sixtieth birthday. The difference between the original version of Sonata no.1 and the second version, shorter by more than 100 bars, is not just a question of length, according to Lukas Geniušas: 'There is a lot lost between the first and second editions. I know it goes against the grain, but I would name this sonata to be one of, if not the best Rachmaninoff's solo piano work. It's shattering might, it's splendor and scale can only be likened to the Third piano concerto, which was written soon after.' The programme is completed by four preludes from the Op. 32 set.Man, at ~42 minutes, the original version of this piano sonata is BEEFY. Fortunately, I enjoy long solo piano and chamber pieces. Should be fun!
>>131158868I mean, I listened to all his major works up to 1980, which includes at least three of his sonatas. Why? It's really not hard, anon, especially considering the music's not nearly as complex as the performance itself, and obvious the pseud "explanation" behind each.
whenever I try and listen to Boulez's music, my first thought is "oh, so this is what people are referring to when they complain and parody modern classical"
>>131159638not modern
@RachAnon, peep this >>131159594 and lemme know what you think!
>>131159638>post-war, Darmstadt, commentary on the medium, indeterminacy, death-of-the-author-inspired scores, etc>"modern"Words have meaning, anon
now playingstart of Mozart: Symphony No. 41 In C Major, K.551 - "Jupiter"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPN5-XOeViI&list=OLAK5uy_m8TvdUD7efP7LkYg1xJkLaXxKV2ghiTUA&index=2start of Schubert: Symphony No. 8 In B Minor, D.759 "Unfinished"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB8wsdOp-oU&list=OLAK5uy_m8TvdUD7efP7LkYg1xJkLaXxKV2ghiTUA&index=5https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m8TvdUD7efP7LkYg1xJkLaXxKV2ghiTUA
Man, it is always so difficult deciding which recording of Schubert's 9th Symphony to listen to on a given day. Wand (and if so, which Wand)? Blomstedt (and if so, which Blomstedt)? Karajan? Munch? Szell? Solti? Muti? Furtwangler? Barenboim? Bernstein? Ivan Fischer? Bohm? Levine? Rattle? Abbado? Sinopoli? Bruno Walter? Celibidache? Kertesz? Krips? Jochum? You get the idea.
>>131160601Considering that it's a B-tier symphony at best, you really shouldn't think about it too much.
>>131160632B-tier is still really good. The B stands for 'bomb!'
>>131160650and bomb stands for "bottom of mthe barrel"
>>131160660Damn, I'd hate to find out what C and D and F tier stand for then.
>>131160573First Mozart symphony I've listened to in a long time. So good. What really deserves appreciation is the compactness of the music. There isn't a wasted moment. Even the parts which are designed to be development and setups for later moments have their own emotional impact and musical pleasure. There are no extraneous notes or wasted time. It's the classical ideal of deliberate, refined structure and perfect, total balance.
The problem with Mozart's symphonies is the slow movements; I always find them rather boring compared to the other movements.
Continuing with the Tatiana Nikolayeva 1984 Melodia Beethoven Piano Sonatas cycle22ndhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3cqtw4Wejs&list=OLAK5uy_mR8FRa8hGfgRaknv0HUT8xhSn25TTHMqU&index=7323rd, "Appassionata"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXdkp5kJcA4&list=OLAK5uy_mR8FRa8hGfgRaknv0HUT8xhSn25TTHMqU&index=7524th, "à Thérèse"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ioz-1BgHZUo&list=OLAK5uy_mR8FRa8hGfgRaknv0HUT8xhSn25TTHMqU&index=7825thhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhBHe8Yzfz0&list=OLAK5uy_mR8FRa8hGfgRaknv0HUT8xhSn25TTHMqU&index=8026th, "Les Adieux"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-52wgdmm94&list=OLAK5uy_mR8FRa8hGfgRaknv0HUT8xhSn25TTHMqU&index=82also discovered the label has a neat booklet available in pdf form. In case anyone is interested, there's an English translation of the essay in the later pages,https://melody.su/upload/iblock/129/12979e8ddefa437461093fa09613e86d.pdf
>>131160795Really? For one example, from the Jupiter recording above, you don't think this Andante sounds good? I love it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27Uy0tbMa6o&list=OLAK5uy_m8TvdUD7efP7LkYg1xJkLaXxKV2ghiTUA&index=2You can sense the foundational blueprint for pretty much every slow movement in the romantic era in this movement. Jochum is a master tho
>>131160676crap, doodoo, feces
>>131160895damn! So A-tier or bust? Or does the A stand for 'Ass'?
>>131160903Actuallyprettyalrightallthingsconsidered
https://youtu.be/pT9j4mjPSrwWhy do those two chords hit so hard in the feels?
>>131160918:p
>>131160927I can't appreciate the gravitas of that piece when used in such a hilarious context
>>131160795That's the problem with most Mozart pieces. It's even worse with his piano sonatas.
>>131160940You will never be British.
Haydn > Mozart. It's time we started speaking the truth. We can't live in fear of it our whole lives.
>>131160892The one in the Jupiter is the only one I find tolerable, all the other ones are a complete snoozefest. I've come to a point where I just skip them sometimes, especially the really long ones like in the Prague.
>>131160970I thank the Erdgeist every day for that precious fact
now playingstart of Saint-Saens: Cello Concerto No. 1 in A Minor, Op. 33, R. 193https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN50v0E12-4&list=OLAK5uy_nKeNYqpPI1qwRepEiZiMDVFfEKYnpmwsc&index=2Faure: Élégie, Op. 24 (Version for Cello & Orchestra)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_7n-i9pcek&list=OLAK5uy_nKeNYqpPI1qwRepEiZiMDVFfEKYnpmwsc&index=5start of Honegger: Cello Concerto in C Major, H. 72https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNnhQ04QCaA&list=OLAK5uy_nKeNYqpPI1qwRepEiZiMDVFfEKYnpmwsc&index=6start of Lalo: Cello Concerto in D Minorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMx7s6YoplA&list=OLAK5uy_nKeNYqpPI1qwRepEiZiMDVFfEKYnpmwsc&index=8start of Saint-Saens: Romance in F Major, Op. 36, R. 195 (Version for Cello & Orchestra)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMhh6LKCspo&list=OLAK5uy_nKeNYqpPI1qwRepEiZiMDVFfEKYnpmwsc&index=12https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nKeNYqpPI1qwRepEiZiMDVFfEKYnpmwsc>It is not by chance that luminous textures and sensual orchestral colors are considered essential features of French music. It's history features great names renowned for their art of instrumentation and sensitive use of timbres, who include the composers of the cello concertos on this recording: Camille Saint-Saëns, whose instrumentation technique always combines color with transparency, Édouard Lalo, who was highly esteemed by Claude Debussy for the wealth of color in his works, and Arthur Honegger, who painted striking soundscapes not only in his Cello Concerto but in his works without a large orchestra as well. Often it is the fine shadings and delicate transitions that characterize the tone colors of French music and are responsible for it's delightful charm. Daniel Müller-Schott - Opus Klassik award winner 2019 - appealingly combines five works from the French sound kaleidoscope on his newest album with the DSO Berlin and Alexandre Bloch 'Four Visions of France'.Can't go wrong with Muller-Schott and Alexandre Bloch. And I love the program here, nice mix of cello pieces.
>>131160970oi m8 u got a loicense for posting?
The problem with Brahms' two cello sonatas is they're too powerful. Whenever I listen to them, I feel like I'm in the presence of a blinding miracle, of luminescent divinity.
>you CAN sing all five of Beethoven's cello sonatas from memory, right, anon? anon???https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnlGD7-O63k&list=OLAK5uy_kZ4oDVRz_Un7lk2t6d6bHgPpsjhzi8BZQ&index=2
Any Vierne fans out there?
@RachAnon, you didn't peep? :(>>131159594>>131159667
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>>131141755>>131161267>One of andante's most sumptuous presentations to date, the set's 300-page-plus booklet includes an array of rarely seen photographs from the 1902 debut, along with vintage photos of the composer and the principal performers.>300-page-plus bookletshiiii
I made a mistake in the OP so I'm making a new one. wtf 10 minute cooldown to make a new thread? wild. if someone wants to make one in the meantime, feel free, else I'll make it as soon as the countdown is up
>>131161663Don't announce this shit, no one cares
>>131161673Just sayin' as to why I made it and then deleted it... s-sorry.
>>131141755>>131161267just buy the album, cheapass bastard
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