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Sergei Prokofiev edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAFU-3aY5Ms

This thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.
>How do I get into classical?
This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:
https://rentry.org/classicalgen

previous: >>131132774 (Cross-thread)
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>/classical/ mega folders are basically all empty
>has presumably been like that for years
>no one has bothered to make their own
Dead and gay general.
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now playing

Mendelssohn: Piano Trio No. 1 in D Minor, Op. 49, MWV Q 29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ8C4RFN5ZU&list=OLAK5uy_kt30UaA8NPKJFtML-Jso3y_f0JCVr6W0A&index=2

Mendelssohn: Piano Trio No. 2 in C Minor, Op. 66, MWV Q33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if-uH_8VxzE&list=OLAK5uy_kt30UaA8NPKJFtML-Jso3y_f0JCVr6W0A&index=5

>Mendelssohn wrote his first trio, Op. 49, when he was 30, the second, Op. 66, five years later. Among the most beloved favorites of the repertoire, they are heard so frequently--especially the first one--that one would think all interpretive choices had been exhausted. But there is something special about hearing them performed by musicians who are even younger than the composer was when he wrote them. The three players on this record, all of whom have flourishing solo careers, are in their 20s. They bring to this familiar music the freshness of a new discovery, without however straining for novelty or surprise; their unlimited instrumental command and beautiful, varied, invariably expressive tone are entirely at the service of the music.

>Their approach combines meticulous observance of the score--dynamics, phrasing, articulation--with youthful spontaneity, ardent romanticism with judicious restraint; they follow Mendelssohn to the heights and depths of emotion without becoming sentimental, exaggerating or resorting to external effects. Though essentially dark, somber and dramatic, both Trios find relief in dreamy, inward, lyrical slow movements, and while each has a characteristic Mendelssohnian elfin Scherzo, in the first Trio it is lit by a bright, sunny sky and in the second it is shadowed by ominous storm-clouds, punctuated by flashes of lightning. The players take both Scherzos extremely fast, and though every note is clear, many details get lost in the headlong rush. The only flaw of this very impressive recording is the balance: the piano is too loud, the violin too soft, and the dynamic contrasts are excessive. --Edith Eisler
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>>131161813
I mean it's all on streaming now. Or you can soulseek + RT. So there's really no need anymore.
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Mendelssohn is talented but he's Jewish...
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>>131161813
it's called tradition sweaty look it up
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>>131161897
No he wasn't, he was a protestant christian
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>>131161745
Best piece to kick off the weekend? I'll start:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXJWO2FQ16c
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>>131161950
A protestant jew? Happens!
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>>131161950
>protestant
that's what he said.
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>>131162101
What's the point of your posts, anon? Don't you have anything at all better to do?
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>>131162110
yeah
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DEBATE: is minimalism classical?
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>>131162113
That was literally (literally) my first post in this thread. Don't you have any meds to swallow?
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What Carmen recordings do you people like? I'm listening to pic (don't love it desu) and also have the Petre/Callas one, Abbado, and the ancient François Ruhlmann one. Any others worth grabbing?
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>>131161950
>The famous 19th-century composer Richard Wagner wrote a notorious antisemitic essay called Das Judenthum in der Musik ("Jewishness in Music"). Wagner specifically attacked Mendelssohn, arguing that a person of Jewish descent was inherently incapable of producing "true" German art, regardless of conversion.
Well what was he then? /our/ guy said otherwise.
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Fauré
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL-6Y_RW2bQ
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Scriabin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DcUapl5CE4
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>>131162138
That's pretty sad, then, in addition to being in bad faith
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>>131162143
>Wagner
Yeah, famously unbiased, level-headed and not bigoted at all. We can trust him.
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>>131162136
Obviously. Shit classical, but classical nonetheless.
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>>131162192
Ofc we can trust him he wrote the Ring.
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>>131162136
>>131162193
wrong
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funny thing is, Wagner was basically the first blue haired bull dyke, yet history has recast him as a “based” German hero. He wasn’t. he was openly a cuckold and proud of it.
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>>131162193
why is it shit?
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>>131162143
>>131162202
so true sister
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>>131162226
ask the composers, not me, I wouldn't do it like that
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>>131162249
so you have no argument and you're trying to deflect? why do you think Minimalism is "shit"? answer the fucking question, make an argument, not just assertions.
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>>131162265
calm down lass
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>>131162214
>history has recast him as a “based” German hero
You mean Nazis. *Historically* Nazis are not on good standing terms with history, what with them retconning it at every opportunity. Also
>blue haired bull dyke
what
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>>131162293
> blue haired bull dyke
> what
Do not engage.
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>>131162192
Calm down Clara
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>>131162265
NTA but minimalism among 21st century academic composers is basically the western equivalent of Zen gardening.

"I felt that the music of the next century would revert to a great lyrical simplicity and that it wouldn’t have any truck with all this mechanistic stuff. Their lives would be full of it from morning to night. Their lives would be scrutinised. In their music they would want something of simple nudity, of great elegance and simplicity. So I said, ‘If I do your picture, that’s the kind of score I want to write - strings, harps and a few percussion instruments. I’m not interested in all this whoopee stuff that goes on being called the music of the future. I think that’s the music of the past." - Bernard Herrmann
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>>131162140
Karajan??? Solti and Maazel
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>>131162214
>t. brainrotted zoomie
embarrassing. don't even bother responding.
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>>131163190
Not gonna lie, that quote is surprisingly compelling. I almost downloaded the completed works of La Monte Young and Julius Eastman posthaste.
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some Iranian contemporary classical
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gezA_8TcUA0&list=OLAK5uy_nwzgvsJ_-0TiNYeePQoRj9OfowiI45b_g&index=1

If you're into this kinda stuff, this pianist Nicolas Horvath's discography is a goldmine. I'll probably be sharing more from it in days to come.

inb4
>pls don't
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What's the general opinion on this performance?

https://youtu.be/yErohs2z0-g
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>>131163864
inherently garbage, like all performances of Sorabjeet's "music".
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>>131163806
>zoomie
i'm 43 years old, genuinely.
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>>131163864
>LEARNED IN 130 DAYS!
Typical Asian mindset to treat art primarily as competition and an intellectual puzzle. That said, some of the parts I skimmed sounded aiight. Maybe I will check out his Sorabji fellow.
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top 10 Requiems

1. Fauré
2. Duruflé
3. Brahms
4. Dvořák
5. Verdi
6. Berlioz
7. Bruckner
8. Zelenka
9. Mozart
10. Saint-Saëns
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>>131164063
Why Mozart so low? Otherwise looks fine. I prefer the grandiosity of Brahms, Dvorak, and Berlioz to Faure and Durufle but that's personal preference.
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>>131164030
I'd love to know why the chink brain works the way it does. They're very good at memorizing every note of a piece without being able to understand or replicate the thought process used to create it.
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>>131164081
points deducted for not finishing it I presume.
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Mozart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGZ_-kcaw_I&list=OLAK5uy_ky5Dk-2QJ5sq1LNjeCXfjXrAOLzRSwbPE&index=8
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>Hey Dave, what's Beethoven's favorite food?
>What?
>Pizza Solemnis.
>*laughtrack*
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>So I tried getting my girl into classical the other night.
>Oh yeah? How'd that go?
>Terrible. I put on one of Beethoven's piano sonatas and she walked out!
>I guess that's why it's called Les Adieux.
>*laughtrack*
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>>131162136
Yes, it's peak modern classical. I like being able to follow music development fully. In that it's similar to Baroque fugues, which are more complex but rely on a rigid structure to be comprehensible.

I can follow a Minimalism piece with minimal trouble and get most of the development/composition/structure.

It's a different type of listening - for example, if I listen to a romantic orchestral piece, it's hard to make out individual parts because everyone plays at the same time and everything changes all the time. I do enjoy it, but comprehension requires re-listening to short parts repeatedly to make sense of them.

People in this general often call Minimalism boring, but that's because engaging with it is different from engaging with a more traditional classical piece.

One of the main attractions of classical music is its complexity - not really for its own sake, but length, variance, and fast pace of change are first of all engaging, and second, encourage repeat listens. For example, I've been listening to the Sacred Spring for years, and on a new listen (especially a new recording), there are still parts I haven't discovered before.

Minimalism obviously does not have this; instead, you are shown a short melody, which is repeated over and over again, while new parts or any development are rare and gradual. The goal is to focus on these small changes and their effects on the music.

John Adams - Shaker Loops.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtvrzmzxkEk
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Liszt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq89v01iufw&list=OLAK5uy_lJXLKwyBK4oA5aZL0Rn9uj6Zpiqtptivk&index=9
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now playing

start of Scriabin: Symphony No. 2, Op. 29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2MH_L0b-Dg&list=OLAK5uy_m7X5nWgJO3H5GHUB99K1brVOX4H_YGmTk&index=2

start of Scriabin: Piano Concerto, Op. 20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgSmsz37nFE&list=OLAK5uy_m7X5nWgJO3H5GHUB99K1brVOX4H_YGmTk&index=6

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m7X5nWgJO3H5GHUB99K1brVOX4H_YGmTk

>Among the diverse figures of musical modernism in early twentieth century Europe, Alexander Scriabin was by far one of the most eccentric and most mystical. With innovative sounds and utopian ideas, the Russian composer, philosopher and mystic challenged not only performers and listeners of his time, but also frameworks of thought, categories of history, and limits of art. Scriabin's seemingly egocentric outlook, megalomania and delusions have been psychoanalyzed, ridiculed, and brushed aside. Nonetheless, he sincerely believed himself that art in general, and his own music especially, could change the world and elevate humanity to a new and higher level of consciousness. In spite of small pianist hands and symphonic opposition, Scriabin continued to composer music both for orchestra and for piano, music which few have fully understood and which none have managed to copy. Even in his early works- such as the Piano Concerto and Symphony No. 2- he was about to break with tradition and create his own style and musical expression. And perhaps at the same time he was taking important steps on the road toward the great Mystery that awaited him at the foot of the Himalayas, though only he can provide an answer. Meanwhile, listeners can appreciate music of a composer who undeniably throughout his career dared to think outside the box.
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>>131161815
This is a really great Romantic-style recording of the Mendelssohn trios.
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>>131165975
>This is a really great Romantic-style recording
Pretty much the style of interpretation I always look for in recordings, particularly of chamber music!

Glad you enjoyed it!
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>tfw modernist string quartets are starting to sound good to me
oh god i'm becoming an avant-teen
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Scriabin - The Complete Works
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>>131166080
Fergus-Thompson is the only name I don't recognize. who dat
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Thoughts on Hindustani classical music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-oNr8-hN2s
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>>131166179
Not the place for it, but I do like it. That raag (Darbari) is a really nice one.
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A Big Bad Box Of Scriabin From Decca
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>>131166223
Did you just make up a Hurwirz video title
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Debussy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9VLbhigj0s&list=OLAK5uy_me0CYUJlnnxfKSvTzw35aUAWKU1U_2ZGU&index=1
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Beefy. 26(![twenty-six{13x2}]) discs!
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I love these Pettersson symphonies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm83O4_Y5rg
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>>131162226
Because it's fundamentally reactionary music in one of the worst possible ways. It was a reaction against the extreme modernism of the mid-20th century. Just as modernism went overboard with serialism and its complete disregard for the average or even moderately educated listener, this went too far in the opposite direction, with its basically non-existent harmony, thematic development and formal complexity, flirting with popular culture and music, and its complete and utter disregard for composition and tradition. That, coupled with the pseudointellectualism of American hippie culture, with its fixation on Eastern philosophy, meditation, psychedelic drug use, and bullshit New Age pseudophilosophy, makes for a deeply unpleasant, even disgusting, aesthetic experience.
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>>131164063
>Zelenka
Which one?
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Some say all pianists should be forced to record the Well-Tempered Clavier, I say all composers should be forced to travel to Scotland and write a symphony.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khgNOcwaAHs
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>>131161745
Which of his symphonies are required listening? I recently finally got into his 5th, after some trouble with it.
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>>131168354
listen to his ballets instead
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>>131168645
How about his balls
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>>131168853
not required listening
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>>131164063
always saddens me to see pre-classical requiems ignored. cristobal de morales, victoria and lassus all wrote stupendous requiem masses.
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>>131169088
Who?
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How do you decide what to listen to
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>>131169513
I just go through my collection in chronological order.
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>>131169513
Whatever pops up in my mind. Nowdays it's just Scriabin and nothing else. So I listen to Scriabin and nothing else. Simple as.
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>>131169513
i take a lot of inspiration from reading books on music (composers biographies, music history etc.) and discover many new works (for me) through them
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>>131168354
Required? 1, 4, 5, 6, 7. But just listen to them all.
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>>131169513
By using my free will
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now playing

Panufnik: String Quartet No. 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gGiv2drMt4&list=OLAK5uy_ldq1sp6UTLPkmxHT2MFSoobijtCPbrr1M&index=2

Panufnik: String Quartet No. 2, "Messages"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqjtcFuk1iM&list=OLAK5uy_ldq1sp6UTLPkmxHT2MFSoobijtCPbrr1M&index=3

Panufnik: String Quartet No. 3, "Wycinanki"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG2D3KqrIVU&list=OLAK5uy_ldq1sp6UTLPkmxHT2MFSoobijtCPbrr1M&index=4

start of Lutoslawski: String Quartet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAErxHI46hY&list=OLAK5uy_ldq1sp6UTLPkmxHT2MFSoobijtCPbrr1M&index=4

>2014 is the centenary year of Andrzej Panufnik and, while his orchestral music has received attention, his innovative string quartets remain neglected. Bittersweet harmonies characterize the First Quartet. The Second Quartet, whose subtitle Messages refers to the mysterious sounds of telegraph poles vibrating in the wind, is notable for its motivic coherence and emotional intensity. The Third Quartet, subtitled Wycinanki, a reference to paper cuts familiar in Polish rustic art, ends with one of Panufniks most moving statements. Lutosawskis dramatic and experimental String Quartet was written when he was at the forefront of the European avant-garde.
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my problem with modernist and 20th century string quartets is they're all trying to make you feel depressed and anxious
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>>131169513
Spotify homepage recommendation
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>>131171043
t. has listened to one modernist string quartet
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>tfw no sprawling, four movement, forty minute Scriabin piano sonata
why live
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>>131171068
ah yes, please explain the emotions you feel from these then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFuOn47MORQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S2PwQgp3vE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSe8zxy2i78

if you give me some crap about how the bartalk and steve martinu are actually jaunty and inspiring because they're influenced by gypsy folk tunes or some shit i WILL scream
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>>131171043
Modernist and 20th century works are trying to appeal to the brain, not the heart. You are commiting a category error.
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>>131171138
even more reason to be put off
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>>131171107
Other than Schnittke, whom I find boring, they fill me with great joy. Go on, scream little piggy scream.
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>>131171234
>>131171234
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Bartok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMWWLKgTplI&list=OLAK5uy_mkaF4bh0ezlHa9EPNvvOdmObdGcCWwd50&index=15
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new Bruckner 4 from Natalie Stutzmann (you might know her from her Dvorak 9 that came out somewhat recently) just dropped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhzK3slh39M&list=OLAK5uy_lYipPorouKDe9gZ3tCvWYZp6PRAOHKXIc&index=1

review,
https://theclassicreview.com/album-reviews/review-bruckner-symphony-no-4-romantic-atlanta-symphony-orchestra-nathalie-stutzmann/
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now playing

start of Rachmaninoff: Symphony No. 3 in A Minor, Op. 44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVJc5KFATzM&list=OLAK5uy_lWq8f0iyI33DVMqu15_bRepwSqWWe6Pwg&index=2

start of Rachmaninoff: Symphonic Dances, Op. 45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCGOeqAFKAA&list=OLAK5uy_lWq8f0iyI33DVMqu15_bRepwSqWWe6Pwg&index=4

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lWq8f0iyI33DVMqu15_bRepwSqWWe6Pwg

two community reviewers describe the performance as a "refined" reading the symphony, as opposed to the usual approach with drama, propulsion, and verve. If I had to guess, it's probably in the same ballpark as the Maazel set. Let's find out! I'm always down for something different.
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>>131171107
Nta but Bartok makes me happy.
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>>131171107
>filtered by Bartok
NGMI
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>>131171319
I might have to amend my position on the Emerson SQ, this is pretty good. Probably too polished for some for these works, but hey, that's exactly why we have interpretation and diversity of recordings.
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Maybe Asians just can't into music like Bartok. We prefer and perhaps even require an overt sentimentality and accessible, gratifying tune.
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Schumann

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYteLLVnKpE&list=OLAK5uy_mYwjqY9k_e_jZPSsScF_BfSYpevg3z_Vs&index=4
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>>131171138
dunno if I'd say that about Bartók or Ginastera.
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Schubert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOnOObP4_Qo&list=OLAK5uy_mFYS7L9-NWQWlk4_az9TZ0WPnqm5H2U34&index=14

dunno how I forgot Schubert has an Octet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTWGJ7RYc5g&list=OLAK5uy_mFYS7L9-NWQWlk4_az9TZ0WPnqm5H2U34&index=46

definitely a recording which belongs in every classical fan's library. There's also the wonderful Ibragimova/Tiberghien and Julia Fischer/Helmchen sets for Schubert's violin works, and they're great to have, but this Kremer DG one is the one I'd consider essential.
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Poulenc
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So where to start with Steve Reich? What are the essential works?
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Schubert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii-_MxhiUN4&list=OLAK5uy_nigSkQvkFaSf2O0xkCELMh30Tg15BwYbU&index=1
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What's the verdict on Jorg Demus' complete Debussy solo piano set?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at_VBL_HiJI&list=OLAK5uy_mmaOPFpZhF9taas_bgeQ61TK5teBSaYq0&index=1

On that note, what's the thoughts on Jorg Demus in general?
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I finally grew out of classical and got in to jazz. Thank God
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>>131172547
If you're black, that's acceptable.
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>>131169513
If you're still somewhat new to classical (and even if not, as there's a lot here), working your way through the lists on here is a good approach,
https://www.talkclassical.com/threads/compilation-of-the-tc-top-recommended-lists.17996/
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>>131172547
>>131172599
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Beethoven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHfjfc2qgfo&list=OLAK5uy_m3IkVWAb8LJD80ipPg1xWCYDfiIQWoLrI&index=13
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>>131161745
HOLY SHIT
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>>131173205
Yeah, it's pretty bomb. Perhaps my favorite Gould recording, though I've still yet to listen to his incomplete cycle of Beethoven's piano sonatas.
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>tfw I want to listen to this but I also want to listen to that, and this, and that, and this, and that, oh and this and that too
There is so much good music yet not enough time in the day!
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>>131173227
I like his beethoven and schoenberg.
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>unironically enjoying Ghould
Safest way to spot a pleb.
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>hating Gould
easiest way to spot an npc
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>>131173902
>sub hour goldberg variations performance
dismissed and tossed into the trash
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>mfw anon only has one set of
>Bach's Goldberg Variations
>Bach's Well-Tempered Clavier
>Bach's Cello Suites
>Beethoven's Piano Sonatas
>Mahler's Symphonies
>Bruckner's Symphonies
>Chopin's Preludes
>Chopin's Nocturnes
>Liszt's Annees de pelerinage
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how do you decide whether to have a Debussy or Scriabin night???
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>>131171881
>We prefer and perhaps even require an overt sentimentality and accessible, gratifying tunes
average Chopin and Russian romantics listener
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>>131175038
Why do you think Asians so thoroughly love and dominate that repertoire???
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>tfw they put the best pieces at the end of the boxset but my autism precludes me from skipping ahead until I've heard the entire set at least once through
jerks
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>>131175072
Best planet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP5xhyPn58U
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>>131175033
depends if you're feeling like a bitch or a faggot
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Wagner is dead. Wagner remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us?

W.
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>>131172512
>what's the thoughts on Jorg Demus in general

all i know are his recordings of schubert's piano music for four hands with badura-skoda and they are excellent.

https://youtu.be/v0nxTDn68nA
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tfw slave to the ballade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-czwNuninHA&list=OLAK5uy_nz-L1FxK1UCxmrZwFg0N0O3FaS6ZsEDaM&index=11
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now playing

start of R. Strauss: Also sprach Zarathustra, Op. 30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvUv8I_BZ4c&list=OLAK5uy_k3rA2AM7cXsU-6rR1SdqJ8bvyrUCFrkDI&index=2

R. Strauss: Till Eulenspiegels lustige Streiche, Op. 28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WonpAbQVbAI&list=OLAK5uy_k3rA2AM7cXsU-6rR1SdqJ8bvyrUCFrkDI&index=11

R. Strauss: Salome, Op. 54: Salome's Dance of the Seven Veils
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8IQsIMPmxU&list=OLAK5uy_k3rA2AM7cXsU-6rR1SdqJ8bvyrUCFrkDI&index=12

R. Strauss: Don Juan, Op. 20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlolYMkwMk4&list=OLAK5uy_k3rA2AM7cXsU-6rR1SdqJ8bvyrUCFrkDI&index=12

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k3rA2AM7cXsU-6rR1SdqJ8bvyrUCFrkDI

First time listening to Karajan's Vienna Phil. recording of this work.
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The vitriolic reaction some people have to classical music is a source of endless fascination to me. I fully get it, they don't like the idea they don't enjoy something that's putatively for smart people, so they strike out against it instead, but still, it's an interesting psychological and, given its widespread affliction, sociological phenomenon. In fact, American politicians are generally cautioned against admitting any preference or even enjoyment of classical music for fear that they risk offending a portion of the electorate!
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>>131177199
further proof that normgroid peasants should be used for target practice.
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What composer of spectral music do you guys like? Is there any modern musical movement you like?
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I wish we talked more about emotional content here. For example, what's the dramatic structure of Beethoven's Appassionata? How does it make you feel? What would you say it's about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_DIl_vmj0M
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>meet girl
>she says she loves Mendelssohn
>me: "oh yeah, me too!"
>her: "she's my favorite female composer!"
>mfw she's talking about Fanny Mendelssohn
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@MahoAnon, what's your favorite recording of Wolfgang Amadeus "Moe's Art" Mozart's Requiem and Mass in C minor?
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>>131177808
This is not a social media.
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>>131177978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTS0CnOe3xM&list=OLAK5uy_nz-L1FxK1UCxmrZwFg0N0O3FaS6ZsEDaM&index=18
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debussy's preludes, bach's goldberg variations, schubert's string quartet 15, or scriabin symphony 2, decisions, decisions...
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some contemporary piano classical

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f60rjBmO3To&list=OLAK5uy_keAxHVXgKPNjAQPBi41fx0f83UVhgN9JQ&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaJEjv93Fkg&list=OLAK5uy_keAxHVXgKPNjAQPBi41fx0f83UVhgN9JQ&index=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw7P56F1qx4&list=OLAK5uy_keAxHVXgKPNjAQPBi41fx0f83UVhgN9JQ&index=7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em9NZ0actP4&list=OLAK5uy_keAxHVXgKPNjAQPBi41fx0f83UVhgN9JQ&index=9

>Kirill Gerstein's decade long relationship with British composer and pianist Thomas Adès is reflected through this latest release from myrios classics. Recorded in the luxurious acoustics of the Symphony Hall in Boston, the three Mazurkas for solo piano feature alongside the world premiere recordings of Berceuse from "The Exterminating Angel" and the concert paraphrase on "Powder Her Face" for two pianos performed with the composer. Together with these works is "In Seven Days" for piano and orchestra which anticipated Adès's recent piano concerto written, like Berceuse, especially for Kirill. The live performance was captured in the Seiji Ozawa Hall as part of the 2018 Tanglewood Music Festival, with Adès conducting the Tanglewood Music Centre Orchestra.
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>>131175033
Have a Debussy morning and a Scriabin night. Problem solved.
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Debussy's Etudes are quite strange.
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>>131176004
What if I'm feeling like a bitch faggot who wants to be slapped and made to beg for cock?
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>>131179249
Nos. 10 and 11 are two of the best pieces he wrote.
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>>131179369
Sorabji
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now playing

start of Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfQPb2SVbh0&list=OLAK5uy_lC2O-jYqgk5mW7KI_wDnCGbJoZMJjzgm8&index=2

start of Schumann: Carnaval, Op. 9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E_6YZI_e-Q&list=OLAK5uy_lC2O-jYqgk5mW7KI_wDnCGbJoZMJjzgm8&index=17

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lC2O-jYqgk5mW7KI_wDnCGbJoZMJjzgm8

>Both Schumann and Mussorgsky were wildly imaginative composers who found ways of expression that went beyond the conventional. On this recording, Kirill Gerstein offers an unusual yet logical pairing of Mussorgsky’s Pictures at an Exhibition and Schumann’s Carnaval – piano pieces in which the layer of the visual and the illustrative gives way to subtler and more personal meanings.

Generic madlib description lol.
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Why were so many great composers like Mozart, Wagner, Bruckner, Berlioz, etc such spergs?
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>>131180350
The real conundrum is why people still feel the need to ask this question in 2026 AD, also 441 AB (After Bach).
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>turning 32 at the end of year
>beethoven wrote 32 piano sonatas
hmm what does it mean?
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>>131180495
it's 341AB you fucking nigger.
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>>131180562
Well this is awkward. I even said 341 aloud to myself so I wouldn't make that mistake.
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>>131180350
if you could stop calling anyone who shows signs of genuine intelligence a "sperg" that would be great.
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>>131180574
as penance I want you to walk over to the piano and play through a 4-part chorale right now.
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>>131180613
o-ok, well, here goes nothing...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8f5hVUeEds&list=OLAK5uy_lPS_uZdSdz5SljXCyWDa6aCM7G2oJpFXk&index=6
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I melt at the knees listening to picrel and some of VW's more popular "modal" works (the fantasias, Lark, etc.). What else do I listen to for this feel?
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>>131179984
Which piece by Sorabji encapsulates that feeling of being a bitch faggot most?
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>>131180734
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdwCj8jLKdU
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>>131179442
I, uh, wouldn't know, I usually, uh, turn it off before then... *runs*
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>>131180634
didn't know about this piece or recording, thanks for the shout
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now playing

start of Schubert: Symphony No. 9 in C Major, D. 944 "The Great"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXFcRZaGDsA&list=OLAK5uy_mHh8YdOXYpklTdchGqzjfN6JbyPdSlu40&index=2

Schubert: Rosamunde, D. 797: Die Zauberharfe, Overture, D. 644
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LTafqWsZgk&list=OLAK5uy_mHh8YdOXYpklTdchGqzjfN6JbyPdSlu40&index=5

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mHh8YdOXYpklTdchGqzjfN6JbyPdSlu40
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Just discovered a new post-romantic composer, a Richard Wetz. Anyone familiar? I'm seeing lots of comparisons to Bruckner. He has three symphonies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opjPa9re4wk
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>>131179369
anime OSTs then
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>>131180590
most people with intelligence in artistic areas ARE spergs though, because the brain has sacrificed social intelligence for it
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>>131179369
(Late) Scriabin
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>>131179249
In the best way possible

>>131179442
Truly based opinion, don't forget nos. 3, 5, and 8

>>131181498
Filtered hard, listen harder next time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtDAJcmfpik&list=RDVtDAJcmfpik&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a45JBg1fZyw&list=RDa45JBg1fZyw&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXpsEFQsAFc&list=RDHXpsEFQsAFc&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dydJZHAfis4&list=RDdydJZHAfis4&start_radio=1
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>>131179249
Late Debussy in general is quite strange. There's also the second book of the Preludes, En blanc et noir, Jeux, Khamma, etc. Even the chamber sonatas seem to filter people. What they don't understand, however, is that that's peak Debussy: the perfect blend of French colorfulness and that unmistakable Debussyian charm, with complete formal mastery and economy of material.
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>>131182354
This guy gets it

>Harry Halbreich adopts the same perspective, seeing in Debussy "a liberator, as only Claudio Monteverdi had been before him".[233] Marguerite Long confirms this link forged by Debussy between the Baroque aesthetic and the postmodern perspectives of the 20th century, based on her personal recollections:

>Like Monteverdi, the musician employs the special alchemy invoked for the Études. It is now up to him to direct the beacons of intelligence and sensuality toward the mysteries of an art he adores.

>In his analysis of the Études, André Boucourechliev emphasizes this point: "Chopin is contradicted at every moment. Looking back through history, one stops at Beethoven, and even more at Gesualdo, that prince of continuous discontinuity[37]...". According to him, Debussy's antecedents "are not Franck or Mussorgsky, but the anonymous composers of the Middle Ages, Monteverdi, and Gesualdo".
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>Beethoven had 30 piano sonatas
>Only a third of them are worth relistening to
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>>131183182
Third? Lol. I'd be happy with Appassionata and no.30, don't need the rest.
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>Haydn had 68 string quartets
>Only a tenth of them are worth relistening to
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>Vivaldi wrote 500 concertos
>All of them are worth listening to
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>>131184181
Please say sike
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>Scriabin had 10 piano sonatas
>only 8 of them are worth relistening to
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>>131175049
Not that guy, but I suspect Russian music was suppressed during the cold war in the west. Probably mostly from people coping with Russia mogging the west in developing the European tradition.
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>>131175038
There is nothing intrinsically wrong with Borodin, Balakirev, Rebikov, Liadov, Rimsky-Korsakov, and Scriabin, and that will be a hill I will die on.

If the Russian 5 is good enough for Ravel, Debussy, Stravinsky and Messiaen, they're good enough for me.
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>>131184738
All except 1 and 6? Agreed.
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>>131185614
Yup.
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Post wagnerian oratorios pls
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>>131186466
Elgar's oratorios.
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>>131186466
Lohengrin is basically an epic choral oratorio musically speaking.
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If I like Lohengrin, will I also like Tannhauser?
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How many of you actually play an instrument, and to what level? I'm thinking of learning violin, and I already know some piano
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Why does it feel like this general dislikes vocal music? It's the music the majority of composers put the most work into
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>>131186536
Most likely

>>131186839
It's just something you get used to, and most people aren't raised on opera and lieder and classical vocals these days. No one would listen to a rock/pop song and say "well that sounds weird."
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contemporary classical by Japanese composer Joe Hisaishi (real name Mamoru Fujisawa), just came out.

Symphony 3, "Metaphysica"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=843kAy5ACOg&list=OLAK5uy_kOWL-QKJxFl_jaVSbhpNgEoUaMc2uZMoA&index=2

Harp Concerto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmCDMynrs8A&list=OLAK5uy_kOWL-QKJxFl_jaVSbhpNgEoUaMc2uZMoA&index=4

review,
https://theclassicreview.com/album-reviews/review-hisaishi-symphony-no-3-harp-concerto-ceysson-royal-philharmonic-orchestra-composer/

>Mamoru Fujisawa (Japanese: 藤澤 守, Hepburn: Fujisawa Mamoru; born December 6, 1950), known professionally as Joe Hisaishi (久石 譲, Hisaishi Jō), is a Japanese composer, musical director, conductor and pianist, known for over 100 film scores and solo albums dating back to 1981. Hisaishi's music has been known to explore and incorporate different genres, including minimalist, experimental electronic, Western classical, and Japanese classical. He has also worked as a music engraver and arranger.

you might know some of his music from,
>He has been associated with director and animator Hayao Miyazaki since 1984, having written scores for all but one of Miyazaki's films. He is also recognized for his music for filmmaker 'Beat' Takeshi Kitano, including A Scene at the Sea (1991), Sonatine (1993), Kids Return (1996), Hana-bi (1997), Kikujiro (1999), Brother (2000), and Dolls (2002), and for the video game series Ni no Kuni. He composed the score for the Oscar-winning film Departures (2008). He was a student of anime composer Takeo Watanabe.[1][2]
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>>131187323
as a weeb I can confirm Laputa is his best film score.
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best recording of Poulenc's Organ Concerto?
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>>131187717
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>>131187717
I don't know about best but you can't go wrong with this set
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gCiHiPjjow&list=OLAK5uy_mgR2GM_Duuwqqxjb2eRj1m7zi5Xc7Zr_k&index=14
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>>131187725
Thanks
>>131187756
Thanks
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Poulenc evening with Paul Crossley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IGLrBeJ8PU&list=OLAK5uy_kHNmw2xUZji3tNmNDAByH34njJ99002Wo&index=1
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>>131187775
do you like Crossley's more than the Roge & Le Sage sets?
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>>131187785
I like Crossley because he's a good alternative to the usual most acclaimed set for Faure, Ravel, Ravel, Takimatsu. This is my first time listening to this Poulenc set (even though I've had it in my library for forever!) and I'm doing the same thing here, as I generally opt for the Roge set, so I wanted to try something different this time. I didn't know Le Sage had a set but I do like his playing too.
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>>131161815
Two of the best piano trios. Mendelssohn's chamber music can stand against anyone.
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Alexander Scriabin - The Complete Piano Works
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>>131187938
Alexeev's is the only good complete set
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>>131187323
Seeing this Ojisan and Alice Sara Ott next year.
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What does /classical/ think of minimalism? I saw Steve Reich's Music for 18 Musicians live and it was extraordinary.
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>>131188748
Someone asked this in the last thread!
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New Uchida release of her performing Beethoven's three last piano sonatas live in 2025

30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR0V-LjAlBI&list=OLAK5uy_nnQG7dWqN5lZP53EB-WwFe0sySHCyZgKw&index=2

31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2LKzb3KBps&list=OLAK5uy_nnQG7dWqN5lZP53EB-WwFe0sySHCyZgKw&index=5

32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH7bO6LJoZo&list=OLAK5uy_nnQG7dWqN5lZP53EB-WwFe0sySHCyZgKw&index=8

>World-renowned pianist Mitsuko Uchida presents a new album of Beethoven's final three piano sonatas, Op. 109-110-111. Recorded live in October 2025 at Suntory Hall in Japan, this marks her second and final recording of these works, following her first in 2006. Widely regarded as a peerless interpreter of Beethoven, Uchida follows her acclaimed recording of his Diabelli Variations, which won a Gramophone Award in 2022 and was nominated for a Grammy in 2023. Composed between 1820 and 1822 alongside his Missa solemnis, Beethoven's final piano sonatas represent the pinnacle of his writing for the instrument, transcending traditional sonata form, through profound introspection and emotional journeys from struggle to serenity.

review,
https://theclassicreview.com/album-reviews/review-beethoven-the-last-three-piano-sonatas-mitsuko-uchida-live/
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>>131187323
this guy makes real music?
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Fauré’s Op. 103 Preludes are not merely the greatest piano works ever conceived, they are, quite simply, the greatest works of art ever wrought by the human hand.
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>>131189572
Give it a try! It's his third symphony. I'm sure he has more beyond those and the concerto.
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>>131189618
favorite recording?
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>>131189630
Germaine Thyssens-Valentin on Testament, but Collard & Crossley are decent too.
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>>131189618
I knew it would sound like a drunk moron randomly hitting notes of the high reigester and then the bass. What a forgettable trainwreck.
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Egon Wellesz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIF63pEpIZY&list=OLAK5uy_k2HwkTmFpdCA3P-DZHhnqRhMUuQUf_QY4&index=1
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>>131189765
I just realized how much this symphony sounds like a modern film score and now it's ruined for me.
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>>131189696
you wanted something that would show up, perform a few clever tricks, and leave you feeling clever for having understood it. Fauré declines to perform that service. he does not raise his voice. He does not solicit your attention. he does not particularly care whether you remain in the room. you are mistaking that indifference for incompetence, and so you declare the work a failure.
your ear has been trained too long on the crude bluntness of primary triads and the cheap narrative of left-hand oom-pah. Naturally, refined harmonic implication registers to you as "randomness". the “forgettable trainwreck” you claim to hear is little more than the sound of your own limitations.
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>>131188748
Not my thing, and it’s quite annoying how BBC 3 are sucking him off so hard for the Proms because it’s a big birthday of his this year.
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>>131187717
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>>131186797
I play the piano, currently at the level of Bach's Inventions. My peak was when I was seventeen; the pieces I was working on then were Chopin's Fantaisie-Impromptu and Rachmaninoff's Prelude Op. 3 No. 2, but when I moved for college I stopped playing for about ten years and now that I've started again I don't have as much time to devote to practicing. I also used to play the trumpet in my high school wind band.
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>>131187975
>complete sets
>good
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>>131189833
I think the work simply sucks. Faure rarely has the natural feel of what works melodically and harmonically, that the great composers always did, like the renaissance masters, Handel, Bach, Scarlatti, Mozart, Haydn, Clementi, Schubert, romantics and so on. Faure belongs in the second or even third tier.
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>>131189859
>rarely has the natural feel of what works melodically and harmonically
Vague as ever.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJXL5fFRENA&list=PLNSPbKyOeokcW9iR5gL6mnAziepuO-GAY
Quite lovely.
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>>131189861
Not at all.
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>>131189859
your response is purely pseudo-intellectual drivel and does not warrant a serious counterargument.
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>>131185204
Not of the era being discussed but, Shostakovich is over-rated, over-played and over-performed imo, feels like he is wanked over all the time in America and Britain and it doesn’t take long for the real reason for it to be mentioned “muh anti-communist and muh suppressed by Stalin”. Prokofiev >>> Shostakovich.

Stravinsky who lived in America also certainly doesn’t get surpressed but a lot of his is less accessible then the boring ripped off “pop” pieces of Shostakovich.
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>>131189884
Oops meant to reply to>>131189833
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>>131189886
>Prokofiev >>> Shostakovich.
If you ignore Shostakovich's symphonies and string quartets, they're about equal. Maybe the edge to Prokofiev if you really like his operas. But then you remember the symphonies and string quartets and it's a blowout. And I'm probably the biggest Prokofiev fan here! (granted I might be the biggest Shostakovich fan here too lol)
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Jorg Demus' Bach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDwbbgt6AyE&list=OLAK5uy_kZpG0-0vA96X5AEZtL2M5mDFQxt5pVKo4&index=23
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>>131184110
simply not true.
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>Beethoven had 1 opera
>only one is worth listening to
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>>131189902
>I might be the biggest Shostakovich fan here too
You would have to be to like his symphonies and not want to cut your wrists
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>>131189880
Oh, you're right. I know exactly what you mean. "Natural feel of what works melodically and harmonically" is so demonstrably objective. Everybody knows exactly what that looks like and can point it out!
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I like Faure but there is a reason his works are not nearly as commonly programmed nor recorded as, say, Chopin or Beethoven or Rach or Scriabin. He was no doubt lacking in the melody department.

gun to my head I wouldn't be able to recall the primary theme from any of his chamber music, for example, nice as they are. I don't think it's controversial to say he isn't on that top-tier but he's on the next one.
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>>131190537
his first piano quartet is catchy enough
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now playing

start of Poulenc: Violin Sonata, FP 119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb9Cuv9d1KM&list=OLAK5uy_nfztkPRMEa4hu9L7l5n9rtVwPbG9j77Dw&index=2

start of Faure: Violin Sonata No. 1 in A Major, Op. 13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWH5DwM-AlU&list=OLAK5uy_nfztkPRMEa4hu9L7l5n9rtVwPbG9j77Dw&index=5

start of Ravel: Violin Sonata No. 2 in G Major, M. 77
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I_k1wHGW3E&list=OLAK5uy_nfztkPRMEa4hu9L7l5n9rtVwPbG9j77Dw&index=9

Ravel: Tzigane, M. 76
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqeJNyLQ60U&list=OLAK5uy_nfztkPRMEa4hu9L7l5n9rtVwPbG9j77Dw&index=11

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nfztkPRMEa4hu9L7l5n9rtVwPbG9j77Dw
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sometimes when i'm with my zoomette gf, i'll sneak into the bathroom to put on headphones and listen to classical
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wagner was too much of a brainlet to have perfect pitch. wagner fanboys therefore have bad taste.
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>>131190566
perfect pitch is completely irrelevant when it comes to composing
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>>131190537
>Scriabin
Fauré is arguably more recorded and performed than Scriabin.
>He was no doubt lacking in the melody department.
>gun to my head I wouldn't be able to recall the primary theme from any of his chamber music
Can this myth fucking die already? It's completely subjective how well you remember themes from composers you rarely listen to. Nobody can honestly say Fauré's Pavane doesn't have a memorable melody. Regardless, there's much more to music than how memorable the melodies are. Fucking dilettante retards.
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>>131190764
People have a hard time coming to terms with the fact that harmonists and formalists exist.
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>>131190537
this is one of the most nonsensical posts i've seen in these threads.
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I'll have you plebs know that /classical/ excels in objective musical and aesthetic analysis, with gems such as "the natural feel of what works melodically and harmonically" and "I can't recall the theme from any of his music".
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>>131190812
kek
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>>131190812
>>131190764
I was just talking about my personal experience and opinion of Faure's melodies. You can take it or leave it.

>>131190786
I have an overly equivocal writing style. Sometimes it can get messy but it works for me.
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>>131190838
>he was no doubt lacking in certain qualities
>uhm it's just my personal opinion
Yeah, keep backtracking, pussy.
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>>131190838
the claim that Fauré is less programmed than Scriabin is genuinely retarded
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>>131190899
For solo piano is what I meant, given this conversation started with the Preludes. I don't think it's quite close at all given that.
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>>131190696
cope. mozart and beethoven had perfect pitch. you literally cannot even imagine what goes on inside the mind of a genius because you are not a genius.
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perfect pitch is misunderstood so people believe they don't have it just because they can't name every note because they didn't have years of formal music training. the complete absense of perfect pitch is described as basically being retarded, so that you wouldn't remember songs properly, so that you would tend to sing in the wrong key if asked to sing a song without having an external reference. you would have a convoluted indirect approach to playing music like by inferring the notes by listening to the timbre of an open e string on a guitar, you would have no inherent reference to fully comprehend the song in your mind without hearing music playing externally at the same time.
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>>131190537
Fauré was a mediocre melodist.
>>131190852
He WAS lacking in qualities, yes.
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Lady Macbeth of Mtsensk District morning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuZK1K6vd9Q&list=OLAK5uy_merVw4Zw62tgsfbGyRfLXTjMq7oiHElWM&index=1
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The portraits are an eerie touch.
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>>131169513
typically i'll focus on one composer for a week or so, and then the various rec's on /classical/ will help sway me to another composer, etc. etc.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxIa-IkM14c
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>>131191071
see >>131190764
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>>131190924
You said "works", not "piano works", and then started talking about his chamber music. Keep backpedaling, bitch.
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>>131192412
No.
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>>131192445
No what?
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>>131191071
>He WAS lacking in qualities, yes.
Just like every composer was lacking in certain qualities, then. I find it fascinating how you morons absolutely fellate the same 5-10 composers over and over again, pretending as if they could do absolutely no wrong, but the moment someone mentions anyone outside that tiny approved pantheon, you all transform into the most exacting, hypercritical connoisseurs. Suspicious of every unfamiliar name that has to justify its existence. Every bar is dissected, every musical parameter picked apart, and everything is compared unfavorably to your sacred idols. The funniest thing is that you can never back any of it up with actual coherent analysis. It all stays in that vague, subjective world of "good" and "bad", "had the talent" and "lacked the gift". And this isn't purely a /classical/ thing either; I've seen the exact same dilettantism on sites like Talk Classical. I'd almost forgotten how pathetic online classical music discourse is.
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>>131192474
Not gonna click.
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>>131192534
In that case, I accept your concession, coward.
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Possibly the GOAT recording of Brahms' 4th
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>>131190764
>It's completely subjective how well you remember themes from composers you rarely listen to
no it isn't: melodies that constantly return to the tonic are catchier to the human brain than ones that don't. it's that simple
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>>131191069
>so that you would tend to sing in the wrong key if asked to sing a song without having an external reference
I do that
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>>131183345
this dude doesn't like sonatas 23 29 31 or 32
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>>131161745
Please recommend me something similar /classical/.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-_SX5MheDI
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>>131193183
I got you
https://youtu.be/414XMQOBM8M?is=LI8QsEsVMpBE0jx7
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>>131192533
what do you expect? it's fucking /mu/
most of these retards probably listen to either k-pop or indie pop more than Classical.
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>Fauré
Mogged by Ravel and Poulenc
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>implying poulenc ever wrote anything remotely as good as this

https://youtu.be/8jO4GqobIas
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>Mogged
opinion discarded
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>Not all musicians, however, saw the Quintet [by Shostakovich] in this light. For some it represented a cowardly retreat into a safe haven and a deliberate avoidance of controversy. Prokofiev, for instance, expressed his disappointment that such a young composer should write so unadventurously. Hitherto, Prokofiev and Shostakovich shared some stylistic features, notably the satirical element already mentioned. Satire became much less marked in the later works of both composers, but the avoidance of the 'expected' in Prokofiev's lyricism seems to me to have a self-conscious quality, whereas the originality of Shostakovich's later work arises out of the compelling logic of the thought process itself. In this respect it is significant that Prokofiev's son is reported to have said that when his father had first drafted a passage he then considered how it could be made more 'interesting'.
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>>131193282
Not sure how 500% slowdown turns 15 minute into a 25 minute one, but I liked it. Thank you! Any original pieces written in a similar manner?
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>>131193786
Perhaps some Schubert?
https://youtu.be/oKdWbBnX3Uw?si=vG5DzqdO7QTHfsh8
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>>131193183
the good place
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>>131189853
Why does he look so cheeky and whimsical?
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>>131187975
yeah
>>131189853
wdhmbt
>>131195442
because he was
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Bach-Busoni.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbtvk7g090A
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>>131195442
Scriabin a cute
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Mache dich mein Herze reeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin
Mache dich mein Herze rein
Ich will Jehesum selbst begraheben
Ich will Jehesum selbst begraben
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This is beautiful wtf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QKijLhYgBg
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I only listen to Wagner via Liszts transcriptions.
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Mozart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNEoaFcxnI8&list=OLAK5uy_l7FbcoQUo9UIqqGu6W5R8VwqZjVYAk7Kg&index=2
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does Peterson-Berger win the prize for piece you'd most expect to hear in an anime?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOOSOogLIf0&list=OLAK5uy_lDOfMgN_pxW-bTGkKbPuftom6qG1-En2E&index=1

charming piece but a bit on the nose
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>>131193036
could you imagine if someone had photographic memory but for music, so they could imagine the notes in the proper pitch but also the expression of the instruments, the timbre and so on in great detail. not just remembering what they heard, but imagining anything else that they can think of. that wouldn't automatically make them a great composer, but if they're a well-rounded genius then they'll sure have an advantage over the average joe who could never dream of achieving something that's worth getting glazed for hundreds of years.
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>>131196202
I do that
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it's a Rangstrom, post-romantic kinda day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjbSgdgSOT4&list=OLAK5uy_l7hLBEl-uj9jQLXoktzHqkyMReUmEBmsI&index=15
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG3odARdh-o
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>>131196538
Not sure what this has to do with /classical/, maybe try >>>/mu/ instead?
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>>131196561
Then what the hell is it?
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>>131196624
Not sure what this has to do with /classical/, maybe try >>>/mu/ instead?
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It's time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00z1YAgwhp0&list=OLAK5uy_lweFSuBtB1nA5H-bcecrtWdYeuXCVtuL0&index=1
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One should always be working his or her way through a Beethoven piano sonatas cycle. Even if just two of pieces per night or every other night.
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>>131196624
pop that happens to be written for the piano
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>>131196624
a subpar "dj" playing the piano
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>>131196694
Pathetic
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>>131196783
I has to at least try it. And someone earlier in this thread or last said they liked it, so.
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>>131196694
>"it's time"
>opens up toilet
>starts eating shit
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>>131196797
I like smashing my dick with a hammer. There, I said it, now you have to try it
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>>131196804
>>131196805
I'm just sayin' if I want to join the club of trashtalking Gould's Beethoven (I already mostly dislike his Bach), I have to show good faith and at least listen to it.
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>>131196858
That's true, but you don't have to do it in public, it's gross
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>>131196864
hmm fair enough. kk lemme try again:

It's time (but I'm actually listening to Gould)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crGkOICt2vA&list=OLAK5uy_m-SopY4BfooKl59KEA7xlUPEbArUPYTjI&index=1

(but I'm actually listening to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL2shkISYFA&list=OLAK5uy_lweFSuBtB1nA5H-bcecrtWdYeuXCVtuL0&index=5)
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I'm also listening to God Gould
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>>131196885
>Siegfried Idyll (Glenn Gould Conducting)
>not his performance of the piano transcription
but why
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Celibidache's Wagner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHr20pCRcLg&list=OLAK5uy_n74lwDPHf3lVL9zQoYnXSD9NyjrhwMNB4&index=3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XX5W7rBWkg&list=OLAK5uy_n74lwDPHf3lVL9zQoYnXSD9NyjrhwMNB4&index=5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6LhRDXMayo&list=OLAK5uy_n74lwDPHf3lVL9zQoYnXSD9NyjrhwMNB4&index=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80iSrgHqacg&list=OLAK5uy_n74lwDPHf3lVL9zQoYnXSD9NyjrhwMNB4&index=9

warning: may induce physical nirvana and spiritual transcendence
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>>131196624
robert miles - children is originally trance but here it's performed pretentiously with classical instruments by an overrated trance DJ/producer with weak piano skills
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>>131196889
>not his performance of the piano transcription
It would induce physical nirvana and spiritual transcendence
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>>131196913
that's a werid way of spelling "annoyance"
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no but seriously I am switching from Gould's Beethoven to a different cycle (maybe gonna finish the Claude Frank one finally). It's a good palette cleanser but good lord not something you sit and listen all the way through, so having listened to No. 1 and halfway of No. 2, I'mma just listen to one sonata from it every couple weeks or something.

anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL_oD_ETtJ8&list=OLAK5uy_moYMz31N2nGudyFBCfkyLu5-7iD7S6UDo&index=64
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For me, it's Schumann's second piano sonata in G minor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKBXI5glNeo&list=OLAK5uy_lF32OkTcLP55W0988YZM7KXVvcf-OuB9c&index=1
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Call me a pleb but nothing more pretentious than referring to pieces by their key.

>Hey, what's your favorite Bach cello suite?
>Hmm, the D Major.

ew
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>>131197111
what is it
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>>131197136
For me. Schumann's second piano sonata in G minor. It is.
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>>131197134
ignorance leads to hate, yes
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>>131197154
Only if you're a musician conversing with a fellow musician is it okay.
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>>131197148
what is it
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>>131197164
I told you, Schumann's second piano sonata in G minor!
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My favourite Bach Goldberg is the G Major one.
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>>131197162
>Only if you're not ignorant will it not lead to anger
yes that's what I said
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>>131197175
For me, it's the Black Pearl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFsGcBeWAzM&list=OLAK5uy_k2er6VZFwCAEa1zJPHWVY5vYAG8-TEM5w&index=26
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>>131197196
You can always tell who is a mitwit based on them saying this is their favorite GV
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>>131197232
The equivalent of calling the first cello suite, the G Major, one's favorite?
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>>131197232
>mitwit
not a word, midwit
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>>131197460
>midwit
not a word, midwit
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>>131197508
Sorry?
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can someone make a new pls, thank you
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>>131197740
do it yourself you lazy bastard
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time for the
NEW
>>131197850
>>131197850
>>131197850
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