E10 Series EditionOld Thread: >>2014518
>>2035708All coupled Shinkansen services have been suspended and are being turned back at their joining/splitting points, with passengers having to change for Tokyo. Yamagata services are being terminated at Fukushima. Akita services are being terminated at Morioka. This is currently set to continue until at least the 7th.It should be noted that the issue that caused the last in service split was metal filings activating the emergency uncouple switch, which has subsequently been deactivated (according to NHK). The Transportation Safety Board are investigating the current split.2nd similar incident involving the same types of trains in 6 months is certainly sub optimal.
Was Hiratsuka originally supposed to be a part of the Tokaido Shinkansen?Was watching the Shinkansen construction documentary in >>2024166 with some weeb friends, and we noticed on pic related at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYjFOYLAtoE&t=2487s showing an ATC panel with Hiratsuka after Shin Yokohama. Our guess was that Hiratsuka was an early candidate and this panel was made before it was axed, either because it was too close to Odawara or was replaced by Odawara entirely.
>>2035768Also the Shinkansen already goes straight through the city (see purple dot), but again is very close to Odawara.
Tsubasa and Komachi services are being conducted from the local Ouu and Tazawako lines respectively.IIRC this is the first time since discontinuation of the Toreiyu Tsubasa and first time for E8 sets.Also note that there are a few Tsubasa services (~4 per day) that are not operated as Yamabiko-Tsubasa pair. These serivces will still operate direct between Tokyo and Yamagata-Shinjou.
>>2035768>>2035770You're forgetting that Shinagawa wasn't a Tokaido Shinkansen station until 2003.That panel is likely for control/signalling and not stations.
>>2035791Ah, makes perfect sense that ATC would be more granular than the stations. Thanks!
Anyone think the E10 is just an uninspired re-skin of the E5? There is no speed difference, nothing really changes, all there is are the seat re-configurations and de-contenting by removing the Gran Class. It's like going from JR Central's N700A Shinkansen to N700S
>>2035800I think they know the big step change is SC Maglev, so why pile loads into entirety new trains when you can just wait and see how Maglev works out for JR Central?
hokkaido shinkansen now coming 2039https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2025/03/db8e4fc4feb8-hokkaido-shinkansen-line-extension-to-be-pushed-back-to-2039.html
>>2035902t. American who likes Sapporo for no reason
>>2035672I wish they used the old pinstripe liveries instead of these garish paint jobs.
>>2035906If you truly liked Hokkaido you'd want the night trains back instead. Accessing Hokkaido overnight saved so many daylight hours for actual tourism. Fuck the Hokkaido Shinfagsen.
I made this mildly autistic edit taken from pics/videos while riding trains around Japan last yearhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W6o4H6Ku14
>>2023312<- New video for you to test your skills on.Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nlrj99KIZIUSpoiler: He isn't really bashing on foreigners getting better tickets, since for Japanese there similar (even better) deals abroad when they are the foreigners.The deal in Britain sounds amazing btw.
>>2036196If suits didn't famemaxx, he would literally be an incel (See his Chee-gyu video). Ironically, he is actually married.>>2035780And just like that, the entire purpose of the mini-shinkansen has been defeated and the thinly disguised tokkyu as shinkansen has been exposed
>>2036229>And just like that, the entire purpose of the mini-shinkansen has been defeated and the thinly disguised tokkyu as shinkansen has been exposedisn't it just temporary due the business with the coupling failures?
>>2036312I'm trying to say mini-shinkansen have always been a scam, and the only thing of value is the fact you don't have to change trains (which ceased to function this time), hence the sometime more correct name "Shinkansen-through service limited express"
They want to resume coupled Shinkansen service as soon as possible, so they are taking very simple measures until the cause is identified.As a result, JR East plans to fully resume coupled train operations on March 14th.
>>2036412>just chain it to the wall Senapi 草草草草草Jesus Christ, Jewpan Rail has fallen.
Is it possible to lengthen the platform of Shinkansem stations between Takasaki and Tokyo to 24 cars long, to couple Hokuriku and Jonetsu shinkansen trains at Takasaki, in order to enable more frequencies reaching Tokyo?
>>2036437The major problem is section between Tokyo and Omiya, where the speed is greatly limited to 120 km/h and the tracks are only double-track, making it impractical to increase the number of trains even if the station is expanded.In addition, the couplers of the E7 and W7 series are for emergency use and are not designed for combined operation, so significant modification of the trains will be necessary.
>>2035672Just googled this E10 Shinkansen. Apparently it'll be used in India as well? It'll be interesting to see a broad gauge Shinkansen.
Small Collab.
>>2035968I want to win the lottery and I just want to ride trains for the rest of my life.
>>2036509LOL. LMAO even. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumbai%E2%80%93Ahmedabad_high-speed_rail_corridorYou're not building high speed trial to be compatible with your standard rail, just like Japan narrow gauge. You're building a Tohoku Shinaksen Style 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in) standard gauge system.
>>2036437Yes but thats not the issue. They built themselves like >>2036500 says a massive gigantic bottleneck. They really need to build another set of two tracks under Tokyo metro style that can do 200 km/h to an underground Omiya station.People forget but Omiya was actually the source point. https://youtu.be/I3fz69MYGIo?si=TBYDsTk-8RWdJj96&t=57https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ5DjD7qh8QPeople used to take a Relay Express to Omiya and then ride the Shinkansen northbound. By extending it to Ueno and then Tokyo they created this massive bottleneck that wasn't designed to handle so many high speed trains.
>>2036537Ok weirdo. I'm not building a shinkansen nor is my country. I just read an article about it and thought it was interesting, because it's fascinating when specific train designs get adapted to different gauges and loading gauges and how they end up having slightly different proportions. Looks like that's not the case here.
>>2036538They do have an underground corridor reserved from Omiya to Shinjuku, and I would argue that having Hokuriku shinkansen trains end there wouldn't affect that many transfers. I checked the timetables and saw the following:>Nagoya - Nagano is about 5 minutes faster on Shinano limited express than by best case scenario Kagayaki + Nozomi>Yokohama - Nagano already has Jorudan telling me to stay on the local train to take the Ueno Tokyo Line to Omiya instead of transferring to shinkansen at Tokyo because it saves money without losing time.The only area that would gain an additional transfer for fastest route is Shizuoka prefecture, but I don't think it's that common to go there from the part of Hokuriku Shinkansen that wouldn't be faster by going via Tsuruga,
>>2036500>>2036538Coupling trains for Hokuriku and Joetsu Shinkansen can allow sending 3 trains an hour to Niigata/Gala Yuzawa, and 3 trains to Nagano/Kanazawa, but only take up 3 slot at Tokyo stations and Tokyo-Omiya track, instead of 6. Therefore allow more frequencies within existing track limit.And the main bottleneck is not the extension to Tokyo. Instead it is all the JR East Shinkansen lines have to share the four platforms at Tokyo stations to do turnaround before next train come.
https://tabiris.com/archives/yamagata-dankai/Prefectural study on Yonezawa Tunnel, as well as other Yamagata Shinkansen improvements has been published>geological surveys found no blocking problems>but the completion time estimate went from 15 to 19 years>the study focuses on speeding up more sections to 200kph+ in mini-shinkansen trains rather than just having one tunnel at full 320kph with full width standard and normal rail elsewhere>this includes full grade-separation between Fukushima and the tunnel, as well as from the tunnel to Yonezawa>that saves 10 minutes at 160kph>author says this way could achieve 260kph, meaning even more time savedIt also bypasses Itaya pass, which was the cause of 60% of all Yamagata Shinkansen delays from what I've read(don't remember where).Overall I think this is the better play from the prefecture.https://tabiris.com/archives/jrkyushu-chuki/JR Kyushu invites municipalities alongside Ibusuki-Makurazaki line and Nichinan line to "discuss about the future of the line"Thankfully it seems like they want subsidies rather than to abandon the line.
https://www.jreast.co.jp/e/press/pdf/0220jept_10days_en.pdfJR East is introducing a 10-day version of the JR EAST PASS (Tohoku area) for 48000 yen.It's basically like buying two 5-day passes(30000 yen) and getting second one 40% off, and the 5-day pass is already so good that sometimes it makes sense to buy two. The pass will become available from May 15th. If you use JR East Reservation site you can buy it from April 15th, but you won't be able to pick up the actual physical ticket until May 15th. Also some time last year JR East made their passes purchasable in Japan again, you just need a foreign passport(not even with a tourist visa, any visa will do now apparently, just like during wuflu). JR West really should follow suit, instead of still linking me to my country's HIS branch that died in 2018.
https://www.youtube.com/@tyokutoku/videosfound this youtube channel with tons of 1960s JNR promotional films, lots of great stuff
I just watched Suit Train's video about using JR rental cars as a 10-20% off trick for Tokkyu/Shinkansen (respectively), and was very impressed. But if you have need for a one-way from Tokyo-Fukuoka is it worth getting a Japan Rail Pass for the shortest length and paying for the Nozomi add-on, or is it better to just buy the one way if no further long-distance travel is desired?
>>2038664if it's money you're concerned with, fly.
>>2038684Flying is not fun, wastes time at beginning and end of trip (I also hate low cost carriers with a passion). Trains and driving I consider enjoyable especially during paid time off.
Sesshoku-jiko on the Sanyo Shinkansen, Nozomi operator heard 'something small that sounded like a birdstrike', some blood found on the train back at the yard, and upon inspection of the tracks a corpse was found in a tunnel: https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/87e621301192723e3d24c29fc1008dd284590a25I thought it was too hard to get onto the tracks so most jumpers stuck to an heroing on the Zairaisen but guess not.
I'm booking touristy trains for a trip to Japan: Am I the only one frustrated how many of these only run on the weekends? Especially when the train is specially made for that service, what the hell are they doing on weekdays? I also work in the travel industry as an analyst, it's mind boggling since weekdays are actually very high visitation tourists-wise
>>2039617The joyful trains are made for locals who are working outside of weekends/holidays not your gaijin ass. Though pretty sure some of the Ginga services I rode were midweek runs.
>>2039625Cucked mindset and dead business model. The modern travel industry does not target the "everyman" nor do we assume all customers are the same. As a pricing specialist, yield management is very real and all firms practice it.Take the existence of "cruise" trains and the extinction of sleepers in Japan. Why make a small amount of money from some amount of customers (fare constrained) when you can make an extraordinary amount of money from just very few customers? The West Express Ginga example you gave is an exception, not the rule (industry trend-wise).
>>2039626>nor do we assume all customers are the same99% of nips are identical, interchangeable labour units that all follow the same pattern though, so it works there.Cruise trains are the exception for the 億万長者達。And normal sleepers died because of simple economic competition from air and bus + the Hokkaido Shinfagsen making the last services besides the Sunrise too difficult, if they kept making a profit they'd still be around.
https://tabiris.com/archives/jrlte2025-gw/Golden Week 2025 limited express ridership stats are up>Kuroshio surges 23% compared to last yearArticle says it's because of Adventure World in Shirahama(Wakayama prefecture) announcing they will return all 4 of their great pandas to China in late June.>in raw numbers the winners are Chuo line limited expresses(Azusa/Kaiji) followed by Joban line (Hitachi/Tokiwa)>same as last year but raw numbers did go up 8% and 12% respectively.>Haruka 13% up because of the expo>Yakumo down 17% after last year's boom caused by introduction of 273 series, and possibly also due to retirement of 381 series which had more seats>Fujisan(the JR Central/Odakyu train from Shinjuku to Gotemba, not to be mistaken for other similarly named trains) down 20% with no explanation given.I tried to look further into it and I found this blogposthttps://noritetsu46.hatenablog.com/entry/2025/05/04/113000The poster has taken that train(before GW despite the post date) and apparently people use it as yet another limited express for the Odakyu portion, but then from Hadano(last stop before it goes off to the Gotemba line) it was literally just the poster in the entire car 1, and one person in car 2. Later the post goes on about the expressway buses, available every 30 or 60 minutes from Busta Shinjuku, which provide silmilar travel time for a 2/3rds of the price due to Gotemba being right on the Tomei Expressway.
To celebrate the 50 years of Nishitetsu's 5000 series and its Ice Green livery, they will be releasing a special sneaker in the livery and Nishitetsu's logo in collabration with Moonstar, a local shoemaking company based on Kurume. Each pair will cost 13,200 Yen after tax and only 500 pairs are available.https://www.nishitetsu.co.jp/ja/news/news20250502/main/0/link/25_010.pdf>>2039629>If (normal sleepers) kept making a profit they'd still be around.I wonder if the modern version of the Blue Train would just be an updated version of the 285 Series to comply with accessibility standards and possibly using E001's propulsion system so it could literally go anywhere in Japan without the need of locomotives
ZAKI has done a trip to Tokushima:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6Nj8IpPH1QOn that note: Why would a native speaker even think, that 電車 also applied to non-electrical trains?
>>2039629>identical, interchangeable labour unitsLiteral Showa-era thinking. This might have been true 20 years ago, but it's changing every single day and the industry knows (or so my Japanese colleagues tell me). The sophistication of how modern day segmentation works is a science onto itself.Society is changing faster than anyone thinks in Japan (for the better or worse).>>2040417>Why would a native speaker even think, that 電車 also applied to non-electrical trains?Because when you live in a big city the economics dictate that all trains are electrified, and you just assume all trains are like that. The words mean nothing.
>>2040417>Why would a native speaker even think, that 電車 also applied to non-electrical trains?because the vast majority of trains the average native speaker will interact with will be 電車see https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%9B%BB%E8%BB%8A#%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E8%AA%9E%E3%81%AB%E3%81%8A%E3%81%91%E3%82%8B%E3%80%8C%E9%9B%BB%E8%BB%8A%E3%80%8D%E3%81%AE%E8%AA%A4%E7%94%A8%E3%81%AB%E3%81%A4%E3%81%84%E3%81%A6
>>2040461>auto translate renders 電車 as "train">"misuse of the word 'train' to refer to 'train'" kek
>>2040485yeah also 電車 isn't really directly translatable to english
>>2040487>muh moonrunes can't be translated to filthy huwaito piggu speakfucking kys you weeb cocksucker
>>2040493translate it then
>>2040499The literal translation is "electric car".While its regular meaning is "electric railway train", the common people apparently understand it as "train" (completely ignoring the 電).>>2040493 is still a fag.
>>2040518>While its regular meaning is "electric railway train"Wrongpic related is not a 電車
>>2040417>On that note: Why would a native speaker even think, that 電車 also applied to non-electrical trains?Native japo here. Because people don't really think about the individual meanings of the characters in a noun. Normies use densha to mean anything on rail because it's the common term. Saying "nooo, actually it's not a densha!" makes you sound like an autistic pedant.>>2040524You're a pedant but you're right. Only passenger or cargo cars that use electricity are considered densha.
>>2040524electric multiple unit
>>2040605>Because people don't really think about the individual meanings of the characters in a noun.There you have a beautiful language that makes a word's origin and literal meaning (regularly) clear as day and then the native speakers don't employ it.>Saying "nooo, actually it's not a densha!" makes you sound like an autistic pedant.Don't worry, I'm not doing that, despite having mild autistic tendencies, because I'm aware of that and can keep myself in check.I was simply curious, so thanks a lot for your answer!
Keisei announces express service between Narita Airport and Oshiage, to start 2028https://www.keisei.co.jp/news/detail.php?CN=7006
https://tabiris.com/archives/minesen202505/>Meeting was held on May 22nd about restoring the Mine line, closed since June 2023 torrential rain and landslides>JR West revealed a more detailed BRT conversion proposal>section from Yunoto to Atsu to be converted to road, rest of the route by existing roads>JR West will bear all operating cost(municipalities along the line used to pay a portion of it when the train was running)>roughly 1,5x services per day at same fare, with integration into the existing rail system(possibly including tickets?)>the municipalities will also be eligible for approximately 2,6 billion yen more subsidies for rebuilding, because they're creating public transport infrastructure instead of repairing privately owned infrastructure>council of municipalities will hold another meeting, but Mine city mayor who leads the council already said that "BRT is an option"
>>2041184it's over
>Didn't have any ticket inspection on the Sunrise for the first time ever last Sunday>tfw no more stamps anywhere then (;_; )I guess the good part is, it's easy to 不正乗車 now by exiting at Takamatsu or Tokyo with a cheap regional pass, (e.g. the Kansai Wide Pass which requires manual inspection at Takamatsu as is doesn't work in the gates there, the perfect crime).
>>2041253I came back from a 5 day trip between Osaka, Nara, and Kyoto taking only ltd exp and 0% local trains (not an easy feat on its own), and all tokkyuken were bought ticketless, I just walked through the gates with mobile suica (ICOCA) inside Apple Wallet. In reserved seats, I guess the co doctor is just checking to see if the seat is occupied for the duration of what it shows on their screen? It feels very different from way back when when they would stamp everyone's paper tickets...>>2041184Daily reminder JRs are not good stewards of local lines, they actively take part in their destruction>>2041041Another Tokyo area thing happening is Tobu ltd exp for Nikko may start/terminate at Toyosu with through operation in Tokyo Metro lines
https://www.meitetsu.co.jp/profile/news/2025/__icsFiles/afieldfile/2025/05/26/25-05-26meitetsunagoyastation.pdfMeitetsu Nagoya station is finally getting the extra tracks and platform space it needs.>the reconstruction starts next year>phase 1(ETA 2036)>build much longer platforms next to the existing station on the Gifu side>add ticket gates and corridors for transfers both above(JR/Kintetsu/buses) and below(subway)>phase 2(ETA "early 2040's")>redo the area of the current station>combine with the new platforms and add extra tracks>end result is 4 tracks with island platforms + side platforms for outside tracks>one of the side platforms will be exclusively for airport trains>cost is estimated to around 320 billion yen>this is just one part of a large redevelopement, including a new bus terminal and two 31-floor skyscrapers
>>2041635I took the muSky to and from NGO recently, was very surprised at how busy Meitetsu Nagoya was, trains constantly coming in and out of the platform, none of them sitting around at all (speaks to capacity issue). The current Meitetsu portion of the station is not connected to the Kintetsu/JR station at all, you have to come outside where the Nagoya Station Marriott is and then enter the main Nagoya Station.Also, the "Tokkyu" to NGO is shit unless you sit in the reserved section which is like a real tokkyu train. The non-reserved cars were just horrible and cramped like a commuter train. Why don't they run more muSkys which are actually all-reserved with nice seats? The price difference is tiny
>>2041041It would be quite amazing if there was a way to run this service also via the Toei Asakusa Line and then continue to the Keikyū Main Line. Would this this even be technically possible? Would Keisei AC series trains even fit to the Asakusa Subway tunnels? I'm mostly thinking about this from a perspective where I'll need to transfer between Narita and Haneda airports really fast (I wouldn't expect them to actually run the express trains to the Keikyū Airport line and Haneda terminals, but transfer at Keikyū Kamata station would be enough for me). It would also enable pretty nice service to the Keikyū Kawasaki and Keikyū Yokohama stations from Narita airport.
My absolute favorite train when I traveled to Japonia was the Shinano from Nagoya to Matsumoto. I booked the very front seats in the green car and got to enjoy the view out the front.The Romancecar is probably "better" because you see straight out, but I absolutely adored seeing the train driver with his fancy uniform pointing at the signals. 万/10 would foam again
>>2041654Meant of course Keisei AE series trains.
>>2041654> Would this this even be technically possible?The subject of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-mHFyj52cALong term, I would imagine that's what Keisei is going after plus this is identified as a public transportation priority so you can expect the various level of govt to kick in some money to make it work>>2041655After the 85-series were all replaced with the new hybrid HC85s, Kyoto Tango took over some of them and they live on in northern Kyoto still today.
https://tabiris.com/archives/hokuriku-kyoto/>Kyoto City council voted in two resolutions regarding Hokuriku Shinkansen>first one prohibits Shinkansen tunnels that use "Deep underground use law" for permits(over 40m deep) within Kyoto>second is coercing JRTT to explain all aspects of the construction to the greater public, including waterflow risks, and "listen carefully to local voices">this is even worse than Saga prefectural assembly's resolution on Nagasaki Shinkansen that at least urges the government to try and find a solution satisfying all sidesJR West needs to dodge Kyoto already, even though it would requite redoing enviromental assessments. The city spreads so far into the mountains that they'd be paying a significant chunk of the money for a project unpopular with the public, at a point in time where they're considering raising subway ticket prices because the budget is bleeding. No politician would ever support it there in current circumstances.Just put a station in Kameoka, maybe even call it something like Kameoka-Arashiyama to cash in on tourists because it will be by far the fastest way to that area.
>>2043060>maybe even call it something like Kameoka-Arashiyama to cash in on touristsFug have you even seen the Togetsukyo bridge lately? Funnel any more tourists onto the fucking thing and it'll collapse into the god damn river.
>>2043060Kyoto city proper is only the first stumbling block. All local governments along the proposed line (except Obama) in Kyoto prefecture are against it. The rational thing to do is to re-gauge the Kosei Line and you kill two birds with one stone avoiding the parallel conventional line problem. Yes, this means less pork and less construction from the crooked politicians to their crooked construction contractor friends, but it’s better than no work at all. I seriously doubt the National govt has the balls to re-nationalize the Tokaido Shinkansen between maibara and Osaka from JR central to give to JR West
>>2043060>>2043071I mean, re-running it to Shin-Osaka as a separate line in the first place always seemed excessive when it could just link up at Maibara and JR West/Central could just come to some profit-sharing agreement for through services to Osaka same as they do on the Sanyo now I assume. Still don't understand how that wasn't seen as the main option the whole time.
>>2043071>>2043073>Maibara routeTokaido Shinkansen is already running at maximum capacity during New Year/Golden Week/Obon. To put even one more train in, every single train would need to run slower to maintain safe braking distances. And that topic, the safety systems are different and incompatible with each other.>Kosei routeOkay, you took the Kosei route, and you arrive at Otsukyo. Your options now are to either connect to the Tokaido Shinkansen(see Maibara route), or go to Shin-Osaka via Matsui-Yamate as intended, right through the two wards of Kyoto city that scream the loudest about the groundwater thing(Fushimi and Yamashina).The only options are to either build it west of Kyoto city, or wait for all the complainers to die out of old age and build some other Shinkansen in the meantime.
>>2043078>the safety systems are different and incompatible with each otherSurely they can make the trains compatible with both with minor retrofitting, or standardise the systems, trivial compared to laying an extra 100km of largely underground track.>maximum capacityJust do what JR East does and make two trains kiss and split/join them at Maibara, (ideally also make it so they don't decouple while in motion)
>>2043073> Still don't understand how that wasn't seen as the main option the whole timeOften, the purpose of public works projects (because JRTT is government) is not to do the thing they claim to be doing, but in the process benefit someone else. The fact that you get a new train line afterwards is just a nice byproduct>>2043078The capacity issue has two parts: JR central likes their trains like commodities, only prioritizing volume and speed (which works for their purposes). But when the chuo Shinkansen comes over to the Kansai area, tokaido will become a secondary route and as an operator you have to play up shtick like the way JR Kyushu does because now your leisure passenger share is high, in fact, they will have so much excess capacity JR West can run all sorts of things on there and a refit of all the train systems on the route is orders of magnitudes cheaper than new construction.I actually had some Fushimi sparkling water the other day in Kyoto, at one of those restaurants where the question when you sit down is “still or sparkling?” (Tap was not provided unless you say specifically) it was very good. I’m of the opinion it should still join the Tokaido Shinkansen at that point, advantage over Maibara is distance and travel time, capacity between Kyoto and shin-osaka I think should be resolved as above
>JRE introducting a new Overnight Limited Express from Tokyo to Northern Tohoku around 2027 using conveted E657 setsProbably going to be their answer to the Ginga but any night train that's not a $10,000/pp cruise train makes me happy.https://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2025/20250610_ho03.pdf
>>2043329>グリーン and プレミアムグリーン berthing only>No 普通車'Premium' Green class? Was the 'Gran' kikery not enough?
>>2043329>>2043339Spending the night in the ラウンジ won't be possible?
>>2043361Wouldn't see why not, you can on the Sunrise/Ginga, there isn't a curfew just a general don't-be-a-noisy-dick unwritten (or actually written on the Sunrise) rule.
https://tabiris.com/archives/seibu-musashino/Multiple sources confirm rumours of talks about a joint service starting in spring 2029>Seibu Ikebukuro Line and JR Musashino line are connected by a freight line around Akitsu/Shin-Akitsu stations>local governments on the Seibu line were requesting some direct connection from Saitama for a while now>no confirmed route yet>Omiya would require a double-back, but Seibu already does that at Hanno to reach Chichibu so it's nothing new to them>Tokyo makes no sense since it would lose by over half an hour to taking the Seibu train to Ikebukuro and transferring there>Haneda will become possible when Haneda Airport Access line opens(ETA 2031), but that requires passing through Rinkai line so fares will get complicated>article author also mentions Chiba and Kamakura/Yokohama areaAnd the follow-up:https://tabiris.com/archives/jrekaiken20250610-2/JR East CEO confirms at a press conference it will be a limited express to the Keiyo line, so presumably Chichibu - whatever station after Disneyland makes sense to terminate at. He also confirms no plans for a commuter service on that connector. He also mentioned the Haneda Airport Access line so that could be a thing in the future too.
https://tabiris.com/archives/geibisen-rinji/The "revitalisation council demonstration project" will for once not be a bus, but an additional train, It'll go Hiroshima - Bingo-Ochiai(which wasn't doable without transfers since JNR era), and will be timed for transfer to/from Niimi, where another transfer also lines up with Yakumo limited express both ways.It seems like JR West is trying to give this service it's best shot so that when it inevitably fails there's little to no room for ifs and buts about closing the line.
Questions for people who have taken the Sunrise before1)I won't know the exact date I'd be taking it until about 2-3 days prior(depends on when my friend will be done with work), what are the odds I'd be able to get a room on the Sunrise Seto for the whole way(Takamatsu to Tokyo) in early September on such short notice?2)If I do end up in nobinobi area instead of a room, where do I put my suitcase? It is carry-on sized, but I didn't see anywhere in the videos I've seen to put even that. Do I just put it right next to where I sleep?
>>2044935>what are the odds I'd be able to get a room on the Sunrise Seto for the whole wayThe rooms/nobinobi are only bookable look once each run anyway, you don't have to sleep in others' sheets. But the answer is probably, if you refresh e5489 every 10 minutes till a berth opens up, 75% I'd say. Can usually snag something in the last few days as there's always a cancellation or two. Might be a smoking berth though...>Do I just put it right next to where I sleep?正解。
>>2044935>>2044980Also, to double your odds, when refreshing e5489 constantly set the route as Okayama -> Tokyo as there may be something on the Izumo instead.
https://tabiris.com/archives/hokurikushinkansen20250618/Ishikawa Prefecture's politicians got a former professor of Kyoto university to estimate costs for Maibara and Kosei routes of the Hokuriku Shinkansen extension.>current route is 3,4 to 3,8 trillion yen>Maibara route(transfer-only): 0,9 trillion yen>Maibara route(trains continue to Shin-Osaka): 1,6 trillion yen>Kosei route(transfer-only): 1,3 trillion yen>Kosei route(trains continue to Shin-Osaka): 2 trillion yen>"trains continue to Shin-Osaka" includes the cost of modifying safety systems and building a rail yard somewhere at 0,7 trillion yen>none of these pass benefit/cost calculationsTransfer-only Maibara route not passing B/C makes sense because it has barely any benefits, but if both Kosei route options fail them, supposedly due to rising costs, then do the 2017 calculations the Obama route was chosen on still hold up, or is the Hokuriku Shinkansen extension dead?
https://tabiris.com/archives/kumamotoairportline202506/Kumamoto Airport Access Railway's development route has been released>single track(like Hohi main line it's attached to)>starts after Higo-Ozu station>either a passing point or a station around the Shirakawa river>an uphill tunnel up the plateau the airport is located on>and an overground airport station on the opposide side of the parking lot because the variant with building the train station under the airport building didn't pass B/C>planned to open in 2034Looking at Jorudan, Higo-Ozu is already the terminus for 49 out of 50 local trains per day that reach it from Kumamoto, so I'm assuming most if not all of those will get extended to the airport.
>>2045158The numbers don't matter because it's fundamentally a political decision. Because Shinkansen construction is a national/prefecture cost-share, if all parties do not consent it does not work. Further, if local government does not agree, they will hold up permitting, etc. and effectively acts as a veto.Ultimately, what regional governments want and can get people to support will get built. The national govt can push and cajole, but there's a limit to how far it goes. The national government is free to pay JRTT all by itself and say some bullshit about the project's national importance, but that just tears down the facade of Shinkansen construction laws post-Joetsu, and turns every prefecture off the cost-share>>2045288It's astounding how many regional airports in Japan are built in the middle of nowhere. I understand there's not always the space for it in the middle of the city of course, but they really go out of their way to make it inconvenient (e.g. Nagasaki Airport, which is 2 Shinkansen stations away from actual Nagasaki).Anyone remember all those "agricultural airports" they built once and were never flown out of because the jet fuel costs more than the market price of the produce itself? It really makes you thin, where would the country be without pork barrel spending?
>>2045438I get what you mean(I've landed at "Shizuoka" before), but in case of Kumamoto specifically the options were either the current location, or in the plain below where the pilots of bigger planes would need to be extra careful with the mountain plateau(the current location) right next to the airport.
>>2045438>The national govt can push and cajole, but there's a limit to how far it goes.Or they could go forward with Shikoku Shinkansen instead, where all 4 prefectural governments are on the same page and are willing to make sacrifices to build it. Especially now that Tokushima gave up on the Awaji island route and is supporting the Seto Ohashi route despite it offering negligible time improvement to Shin-Osaka over highway buses. The national government can point at it and say "See, they got along so they get the investment.".It doesn't matter that at most we'll see full Shinkansen to Matsuyama and a single track mini-Shinkansen to Kochi(I've heard that the current tunnels on Dosan line will need to be rebuilt in 2030's or 40's anyway, I think it was in a Himabozu video but I'm not sure), the island as a whole will be seen as better connected with Honshu, which will drive people in.
>>2045604That's rectified by Shizuoka holding JR Central hostage and a new shinkansen station under the airport is their "price" for permitting the Chuo Shinkansen.I was watching old news segments about how the Kumamoto Airport route was decided, it sounds like the TSMC factory is working out very well for their local area>>2045665The Seto Ohashi route is stupid and non-sensical to begin with, duplicates conventional lines, is indirect as hell for the majority of passengers from urban centers, and Tokushima got cucked when they gave in to the demands of the other 3 prefectures over there.If you think about the economic fundamentals, the Tokushima - Kansai connection is a no brainer and instantly makes it a Kansai suburb. Who wants to go all the way to Okayama and then go around in a roundabout fashion? The fact single track Shinkansen is on the table is amusing though
Did Miki Clark just get fired from Japan Railway Journal get fired? I noticed in the most recent episode she's been replaced by some generic Japanese guy that talks in English (not to be confused with the professor)
>>2046256Praise the Lord if she was. I stopped watching because of her. Cathy Cat was perfectly bearable but Miki Clark jfc
>>2041655I travelled on this in the opposite direction and it was 2.5 hours of bliss. The scenery was great and it was a nice sunny day.
>>2046856Did you get the front row or rather back row seats with panoramic view?
>>2046876I didn't sit there unfortunately.>>2046257I like Cathy and Miki. Ideally they would just clone the Professor and have them both presenting.
>>2047005Fuck off Miki is awful
>""Reserved seating"" on standard kaisoku nowThe most Jewish thing I've seen out of Jewpan Rail in a long time.https://www.jr-odekake.net/railroad/service/ureseat.html
>>2047317Green-sha were effectively that already, weren't they?
>>2047317Apparently this had been a thing for almost two years and they are actually expanding it to more areas>>2047418I'd think this is a bit different as it is more of a Reserved Seat than Green Car
>>2047418For JR East maybe, but in JR West territory the A-Seat (New Rapid) is the closest thing to that. Because of competitive pressures, all JR West Rapid trains have forward-facing, reversible seats, which all happened to be numbered. This lends itself then to be easily sold as reserved ones.>>2047317Personally, I find it far more offensive that JR West sees fit to sell reserved seats on Rapid train that have junk seats compared to a Ltd Exp (but good seats compared to sideways long seats) than actually running more Ltd Exp with proper conductors. Without conductors you just know some scumbag foreigner (or unpleasant old man that's checked out on life) will sit there without paying
why is the keisei skyliner so much better than JR's narita express?
>>20476071) Route (where it uses Narita Shinkansen right of way), 2) age of vehicle, and when you combine 1 and 2 you also get 3) speed.Where it falls down is desirable station to terminate at, all of which are JR
>Tried to book the Ginga for August 8, e5489 locks up for a few mins at 10 AM JST on the dot with 混雑中 errors due to Obon rush>Tried to book a Sunrise A-class berth for August 9, e5489 locks up for a few mins at 10 AM JST on the dot with 混雑中 errors due to Obon rush (got a B-class Solo berth among the leftovers at least)At least managed to snag an A-class for August 2 but god damn JR西日本 up the fucking compute and bandwidth for your site a bit more at least for Obon, shit is easy to scale in cloud.
>>2047625Both the Second Gen AE and E259 are around the same age as they both entered service at the late 2000s, so I would assume the interior for the E259 is worse?
https://tabiris.com/archives/honebuto2025/Ishida cabinet published "Basic Policies for Economic and Fiscal Management and Reform 2025", including a new National Shinkansen Plan.The short version is: "If your dedicated Shinkansen isn't already in construction(Hokkaido) or partially complete(Hokuriku, Nishi-Kyushu) get fucked, the most you can hope for now is a speed upgrade to your existing track".Of course, this is dressed in nice words like "expanding capability of trunk lines in various regions". Also the Shinkansen Basic Plan is out of the window and speeding up lines outside of it is fair game, but that means that the Basic Plan routes will now fight for funding with various speedup projects. And there's a bunch of them in the works already:>Jouetsu Shinkansen - Hokuriku Shinkansen connector>Asahikawa - Sapporo speedup project>speedup projects on both Mini-Shinkansens>the Dosan Line speedup plan, which was shelved for sake of joint support of Shikoku Shinkansen by all Shikoku prefectures, but if that's not happening then it'll likely resurface>the Joban Line, which was apparently used as an exampleand this will just spawn more of them.Of course all of this assumes Ishida cabinet will still be in office after the upcoming elections, which is difficult to predict.
>>2048299not surprising
>>2048299Well how much more shinkansen did they ever mean to build it already goes almost everywhere
If anyone will be on the moon and wants an A-class Sunrise berth for Takamatsu -> Tokyo for July 30 let me know within the next 24 hours.>>2048356>Well how much more shinkansen did they ever mean to build Pic related.
>>2048299Ishiba and the LDP (now fully globalist and Chinese controlled throughout) is not likely to hold their senate majority after the election, will probability be minority in both houses of diet. If the Constitutional Democrats and former PM Noda manages to overthrow Ishiba, look back to 2009-2012 for their version of pork priorities (which is remarkable considering the last time the democrats were in power with Noda as PM they failed to deliver on every single one of the things they promised, but managed to unexpectedly raise the much hated sales tax, ending their term in self-destructing their party).>>2048356>>2048397Daily reminder the “basic plan” Shinkansen authorization (law) was entirely a scam presented as a consolation prize for every other region just to let then-PM Tanaka Kakuei justify building the Joetsu Shinkansen to his hometown such that he could travel at great speed back to his district from Tokyo, economics or any other basis be damned. Now that regions all over Japan are trying to cash that check to build Shinkansen in their area no matter how economically unsound, the mask is finally coming off and there will be a reckoning where the government admits it simply does not work and makes nonsense. The repeal by administrative rule and policy has already begun
>>2048400>built a Shinkansen to my regional home town because I'm PM and I do what I wantUnfathomably ベースド。
>>2041184https://tabiris.com/archives/minesen202507/The municipalities alongside the line have agreed to JR West's terms.The line will be effectively a mostly normal bus, except for a 4km section of track converted to a bus-only road, and the line being a part of the JR West network in terms of ticketing.
>>2048400>>2048402>>built a Shinkansen to my regional home town because I'm PM and I do what I wantlmfao I thought they only did that in Spain
Last time I went to Japan, I got a Rail Pass. With the price rises, I'm trying to see if it's worth it. Is there a website where I can check out the prices.
>>2049092https://www.japan-guide.com/railpass/ on one hand it's limited to about 70 destinations, but on the other it calculates all passes at once, not just the Japan Rail Pass.If you need to check somewhere not on that list, use something like Jorudan/Japan Transit Planner or Navitime and check every route you'll take manually.
>>2049106Great thanks. I've left out little excursions but even then it's looking like it's not worth buying a pass.
>>2049092It's a bit hard to get good value out of the 1/2 week passes anymore unless you move pretty fast, bit easier with the 3 week though.But as long as you move at a decent pace it can still be used pretty amazingly. E.g. calculated all the tickets at standard price for my last trip pic related, and using the three week pass saved me over 200,000 JPY.
>>2049231Oh shit, I'm going first half of November. I'm really excited for it not to be mid 30c like it was when I went in early Septmber.
>>2048898"BRT" has always been, and always will be a scam. Buses are just that, a substandard form of transportation that cannot stand the test of time like trains. Shame on JR West
https://tabiris.com/archives/seibu50/Seibu, Tokyu and Keio make deep discounts on child fares following Odakyu and Keikyu>in 2022 Odakyu introduced a flat 50 yen fare for children on IC card tickets>then Keikyu did the same but 75 yen>this was an incentive for families to move to areas in those networks so the children will grow up there and reduce the effect of depopulation>others are following suit now>Seibu made children's commuter passes 500 yen per month, and children's all line passes 1000 yen per month>Tokyu and Keio will give a 100% cashback(in form of points) for children's commuter passes>on top of that Tokyu made children's fare flat 100 yen on weekends and holidaysThis is probably more about PR and investor appeal considering that the parts of Kanto with railways are the one area of Japan that is least likely to depopulate. Maybe it'll make a difference on the outskirts of the further reaching lines, but not really anywhere else. It doesn't lose them that much money either since the primary schools will be at most a couple stations away. The article mentions children's fares being less than 1% of Odakyu's revenue.
https://tabiris.com/archives/hokuriku-maiduru/Multiple Hokuriku Shinkansen routes to be re-evaluated>Nishida Masashi, who ran on re-evaluation of these routes(among other things) got elected in a landslide victory>he revealed in an interview he already instructed related parts of Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism to re-evaluate themThe article then talks about Maizuru route, with an article regarding Maibara route coming later.>apparently this re-evaluation includes Kyoto-skipping variants, via Fukuychiama to Shin-Osaka>a variant that trades Shin-Osaka for Tennoji and continues to KIX was also proposed>any route that goes Maizuru-Kyoto has failed Benefit/Cost calculations in the past, and is even less likely to pass them today>but the routes that skip Kyoto could pass them due to much less complicated tunelling>and small city governments could be more cooperative if they get stations>author also theorizes potential mini-shinkansen to Kinosaki-Onsen>that could also be a start for a San-in Mini-Shinkansen, which could increase the amount of political will behind the project and fit the "improvement of existing trunk lines", outlined in >>2048299>the Itami airport could also gain from a station by it, but it's already accessible by the monorail so they might not need itOverall I'm just glad that there is at least some recognition for skipping Kyoto.
>At Kansai Airport picking up my JR pass>Get shoved into the gaijin line>Speak fine moon, station attendant responds in English in the thickest hapa Amerilard accent>Mention how I've never had a madoguchi staff member talk in English like that>"Lol yeah I'm not actually Japanese"JR West has fallen. Fucking disgusting.
>>2050266人手不足 is real.
>>2050193>mini-shinkansen to Kinosaki-Onsenbased, make it happen
>>2050283As long as there's one nip attendant left alive I'd still rather just wait in line an hour.
>>2050193>government build shit where people actually want it instead of blowing the maximum amount of money possibleAnd all is right with the world>>2050266Top kek. At this rate I can't wait for them to actually hire gaijin to do the announcements on the actual trains, I'm applying for a job at JR West >>2050283Daily reminder the Japanese government can easily make it easier for Japanese people to work and stop letting the globalists push replacement migration. Hiro actually appeared on an Abema Prime segment where he talks about how plenty of people want to work but the government (globalist occupied Japan through the LDP) and large firms want to pay people next to nothing hence the low-value (as opposed to high-value that would import in the past) foreign workers
(Good news) They still stamp tickets for A-class berths at least (as they have to give you the amenity kit after all). Makes the 10時打ち hell worth it.
>why don't they just make black boxes out of the JR East ice cream?
>>2050362Is it tougher than regular ice cream-in-pots? Those are usually pretty tough if they're well-frozen.
>>2050369Takes about 30 mins before scooping becomes practical. Definitely frozen well, the nip memes are real.
>Typhoon not fucking me over this time like two years agoFinally going to make it unless an earthquake hits while onboard right now. Hopefully it's less damn hot up there too.
https://tabiris.com/archives/jre-neage-ranking/>JR East is hiking prices in March 2026>because previous raises were related to either tax increases or introduction of the barrier-free fund, this is technically the first actual raise since the privatization of JR East>lowest fare will be 155¥ on IC/160¥ on a ticket(currently 147¥/150¥)>7,8% on average of direct price increase>but there is additional bullshittery >"within Yamanote line" specific prices are gone>the most affected distance is 16-20km range(like Shinagawa to Ikebukuro), going from 280¥ to 350¥(+25%)>most "specific sections” set up to compete with private railways either abolished or have a lower discount>Ueno/Ugisudani/Nippori/Minami-Senju to Narita City(NOT the airport) goes from 940¥ to 1230¥(+31%)>Shinagawa to Kurihama goes from 950¥ to 1230¥(+29%), by the way the same route on Keikyu is 710¥ and 15 minutes faster>in general every "specific section" meant to compete with Keikyu is gone>Shibuya to Kichijoji remains a "specific section", but is still raised from 230¥ to 290¥(+26%, without it it would be 350¥, Keio is 230¥)>Shinjuku to Takao also remains a "specific section", goes from 580¥ to 720¥(+24%, would be 810¥), Keio is 410¥>the only "specific sections" that are untouched are between Yamanote line stations and Yokohama, mainly competing with the Tokyu Toyoko line
>>2049106One downside I noticed is that this calculator will insist on the cheapest route's validity regardless of alternative routes.For example it will insist that Tokyo - Nikko is not covered under Japan Rail Pass because the Tobu line isn't, even though you can take the Shinkansen to Utsunomiya and then the Nikko line to Nikko, and do it entirely with Japan Rail Pass.>>2049231It's not that you can't make the 1 week pass pay off, but it's rarely the best option when you do. I added a modified version of one of my itineraries that is 7 days instead of 14 and does everything as a daytrip from Tokyo(which isn't how I usually do things). It pays off, but it loses to buying the Niigata Nagano Area Pass for 5 days and doing the remaining 2 days on separate tickets. (TAP = Tohoku Area Pass, TWP = Tokyo Wide Pass)
Man tonight's filthy Soya back to Asahikawa committed at least 500 millihitlers of sesshoku-jiko on the poor insects of Hokkaido.
Can I buy a JR East pass at the airport and then reserve using the JR Train Reservation website, or does it have to be purchased online with the same account for JR Train Reservation to pick it up?
>>2050760If you want to use the web reservation functionality for any pass needs to be bought online from JR direct.
>Norokko should've ended service last year because the rolling stock is ancient>JR Hokkaido decided to keep it alive just one more year after making the 'necessary repairs'>tfw onboard right now and rain leaking inPic related conductor making the 'necessary repairs' live. I love you JR Hokkaido but man you are so bankrupt.
>>2050808And the green boi itself too I guess.
>>2050809Also, is it the last train still operating with a squat toilet I wonder?
>>2050817Squat toilets are actually based, but what were they thinking building it so you have to climb up to use it? Just make it a hole in the ground, like the Fr*nch.
>>2050819To fool westerners into sitting on the filthy foot pads maybe/stop them complaining about it not being sittable.Also slightly prettier shot for the return.
>>2050808>>2050809>>2050817>>2050820holy mother of train kino
>>2050819Actually thinking about it, it's probably to have a space to store the unchi. Otherwise you need to drop the mess onto the tracks, (which was still a thing in Hungary a few years back at least, they had warnings to please not poop while the train was at a station, since yeah...).>>2050829Ride it while you can it's gone after thus year.Also not as special but this from Hiketa Station in Kagawa last week.
>>2050820Oh, and to answer the question no one asked of 'how does one buy a ticket at a special seasonal station that's just a wooden platform, but with too many people using it to do all onboard sales (Lavender Farm Station)', the answer is: Buy it from thr JR staff member literally selling tickets out the back of a Rape Van.
>tfw visiting Minmaya station today and seeing the absolute stateBig sad. No one other than JR Shikoku and Hokkaido has an excuse to abandon unprofitable lines.
>>2050938Nice mountains though.
>>2050939Inside was musty but surprisingly looked relatively ready to operate.
>>2050941Also took the cablecar down to the old service tunnels from the Seikan Tunnel museum, glad they were able to crowdfund the repairs, as close as I'll ever get to Tappi-Kaitei.
>>2050942And an actual train too I guess, penetrating into Honshu.
>>2050943*Wait I lie that one was heading into the tunnel towards Hakodate.Also hope someone keeps caring for the hydrangeas at the dead station.
Well Suits didn't lie thankfully, the A class smoking berths don't smell very much at all (probably due to even non smokers frequently using them just to ride in an A class).Almost wish I was a smoker just to experience the novelty (as it's the only smoking allowed train in the country now I think).
https://www.sankei.com/article/20250813-IMXLSVTPKFLK7L3KLOJ54W4LXE/>撮り鉄の仲間内では無賃乗車は当たり前Nani!? And that's not even the worst thing they did.What the fuck is wrong with (some) toritetsu?
>>2051257>5人は一緒に東京から新幹線を無賃乗車してHow is that even possible with the Shinkansen? Barrier jumping? Surely you'd be caught right away.
Murouguchiono Station this morning.
>>2051305Article mentions that they came to Osaka. The only Shinkansen station in Kansai that isn't fully elevated is Maibara, and even then the side with the Shinkansen platform is elevated(see pic), so it's clear they didn't jump there. The only physically possible option for leaving without a ticket is>got off at Maibara>went to Tokyo-bound platform(Osaka-bound platform has a wall of windows so no fence to jump over)>ran across all four Shinkansen tracks>jumped what seems on Google maps to be a fence>ran across all seven zairaisen tracks>got on the Omi Railway platform>all without getting spotted by anyone somehowAt this point I'm assuming forged or stolen tickets.
>>2051430I meant more the ticket gate barriers but interesting game plan there. But I guess if the attendant is distracted maybe one could quickly vault over the jidou-kaisatsu.Also Kintetsu was shit this afternoon seems there was a fire on some line somewhere.
>>2051435The gates make a distinct noise when closing, and I believe they actually do make a new noise each time they detect a new person while closed. So if it rang 5 times the staff would notice.A more viable option that came to my mind is buying platform tickets, having someone else at your destination also buy platform tickets, riding the train, meeting somewhere along the way, swapping platform tickets, and then getting off with that station's platform ticket. Not practical for most people, but if you have a whole community doing this, you could find someone who wants to go to where you are around the same time you want to go where they are, especially Tokio-Osaka.
>>2051444So you effectively mean キセル, right?
>>2050487>tl;dr bullshit reasonsThe real reason for any price increase is because they can, and that you can and will continue to pay for it.
Spicy Smokey Kodama last Friday, turns out not all carriages are non-smoking: https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20250816_07/
>>2051430>>2051444According to one of the news sites they apparently met with the collaborators at Shin-Kobe Station due to the security there being more laxed than Shin-Osaka and they used the platform ticket trick to do it. The question I have is that can you just insert multiple platform tickets into the turnstile at once just like you do with fare and surcharge tickets?https://news.nifty.com/article/domestic/society/12136-4396972/
does a commuter pass for senkawa -> shinjuku sanchome on fukutoshin line, work for senkawa -> ikebukuro on the yurakucho line? it's a much easier transfer to jr when I need to do so, but idk if tokyo metro sees me exiting the yurakucho fare gate at ikebukuro any differently to exiting from the fukutoshin/marunouchi gates
>tfw looking at old JNR maps, especially of all the former lines in HokkaidoIt hurts so much.
>>2051671>DE>ドゥMy French isn't the best, but なんでやねん!
>>2051695Because Japanese only has five vowels, and the ウ sound is the closest to the actual French pronunciation.https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/de#French
https://tabiris.com/archives/shinetsu-shinkansen2025/Shin'etsu Mini Shinkansen feasibility study dropped>four variants tested>1: Nagaoka - Joetsu-Myoko Mini-Shinkansen>3h30m from Niigata to Shin-Osaka, 1h9m from Niigata to Naoetsu>0.9 to 1.4 B/C>but it does require a switchback>2: Nagaoka - Itoigawa Mini-Shinkansen>time from Niigata to Shin-Osaka is basically the same because longer distance at 130km/h balances out the switchback>but it skips Joetsu-Myoko and Takada, two biggest stations in that area>this is enough to lower the B/C ratio to between 0.7 to 1.2>3: 1. but without regauging and with more tunnels instead>this is basically a meme and a waste of money and the 0.1 B/C ratio shows this>4: building new track from Joetsu-Myoko to Kashiwazaki, which would connect with Hokuhoku Express(which would be dual-gauged) at Uragawara>biggest coverage, and shortest construction time at just 9 years>but because the whole Shin'etsu Mini-Shinkansen movement has been led by Kashiwazaki for 20+ years, it "needs" to be in every option>so the tunnel from Uragawara to Kashiwazaki hikes the construction cost and therefore tanks the B/C to 0.5 to 0.8 rangeI wouldn't be at all surprised if the same variant without the tunnel(with Kashiwazaki only speeding up to/from Nagaoka) was the best option by far, but it was not considered. In fact, because there has been a proposal of "Hokuhoku Express Mini-Shinkansen plus non-regaugung improvements for Kashiwazaki" before the coof, I wouldn't be surprised if the third variant was made purely to stop it from reappearing after this study.https://tabiris.com/archives/hayate-utsunomiya/In other news, JR East will trial having some Hayate stop at Utsunomiya. But only northbound. Wanna go back from your trip to Hirosaki? Fuck you, you're still transfering.
>>2047317And now, if you thought it can't get any worse, I present to you: reserved long seats.https://tabiris.com/archives/ureseat202510/
>>2051934never happening lmao
>>2052018Now that's fucking retarded.>プレミア感はないけれどYou don't say~
>Next Shikishima service cancelled after crew gets on the piss onboardImagine paying 2,000,000 yen for a Shikishima ticket and the conductor vomits on you after raiding the passenger bar.
>>2052453https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/aa94ab82cdedd04d339238ffc266a3e52edc3d11>“四季島”ならぬ“酒気島”wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
>>2052453If she's cute, Nips would pay extra for that.
First the came for the interesting hosts, then they hired a generic Japanese moron, and now they've fired the prof and put in a generic gaijin moron in his place!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMost recent episode of Japan Railway Journal https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/shows/2049163/Fuck the NHK
>>2052651Noooo not the autistic professor this is unforgivable
>>2052652https://tabiris.com/archives/nogata-shineki/A new station on the Shinkansen between Kokura and Hakata might me built>both local government and JR are interested>but it'll be expensive
>>2052735(me)I really need to fix that fucking bug in my custom script that unnecessarily quotes the last post, sorry.
>>2041651Meitetsu Nagoya is known as the most chaotic insane station in Japan. Because they run so many trains to and from different directions from just two platforms. >>2043060JR West isn't building the Shinkansen . It's an organization called JRTT that spends oodles of government money then leases out the tracks to JR for dirt cheap prices. JR West doesn't give a shit if it's a stupid white elephant, because JRTT will lease the tracks to them in such a way that they are guaranteed a profit. A fucked system all around. Fuck JR West and the retarded Showa era shinkansen planning law that's still in use. >>2043078It doesn't matter because the maglev should be in place by then, so there will be plenty of spare capacity on the Tokaido shink by the time it's built. >>2045721The Shikoku shinkansen is an asinine dream that will never be built. The only argument for it is that all the other islands have a shink so it is unfair that Shikoku is excludeed. But when you look at the depopulation rate and the way cities in Shikoku are spread out instead of being along a single axis, it would ba a ridiculously stupid project. Shikoku will be an uninhabited island by the time a Shinkansen would open in 2050 >>2048299good. see above.
>>2050193MP Nishida is a deep state believing lunatic who leads the Hokuriku shinkansen project team, but I wouldn't take his words seriously. He is absolutely nuts. The Hokuriku shinkansen will forever be stuck in Tsuruga and that's that. Not the end of the world. >>2050362It's because they keep it in boxes with dry ice. Way colder than a freezer. But necessary because you're not going to walk around with a cart holding a battery powered freezer.>>2050487JR East is surprisingly doing a lot worse in their post-COVID recovery than JR West or Central. This is why they feel forced to do this.>>2050835LMAO wtf is this. JR Hokkaido is so Ghetto. >>2051659Those guys' names were put on public newspaperss and TVs. their lives are ruined forever. idiots
>>2052651It's never been more over. JRJ has fallen.
>>2052651I'm still glad if Miki Clark got yeeted, I never liked her. Cathy Cat was fine tho
>>2052756>LMAO wtf is this. JR Hokkaido is so Ghetto. Yeah but it's still pure fucking TAMASHI, look at those cute as fuck frog magnets and shit holding the noticeboards up to the employee's van.
>>2035672>>2035672>Tfw blue trains no longer exist>Tfw when no sex on blue train porn exists>Tfw no long nights of drinking and staring out the windows of blue train anymoreWhy is this timeline cucked
>>2052991>>Tfw when no sex on blue train porn existsNo railway company would want to get associated with AVs.There is only one company that does night trains in Japan, so unlike with those ever-so-often local train AVs, there is no way to do such a video without JR being able to sue the creators.
>>2052991>>2053006I reckon you could get away with it in a Sunrise Twin cabin easily enough, just need to make sure nothing in the footage discloses what the date of travel is and JR will never be able to figure it out.
>>2052991>Tfw blue trains no longer existCounterpoint, pic related:>Is a train>Does long, overnight runs that allows you to stare out the windows in a communal lounge>Has twin berths for sex-havers>Is blue
I want a toy of this one.
>JR East will only keep Cassiopeia's Twilight Suite car (SuRoNeFu26) for the Railway Museum while scrapping the other 11 cars>Even the Twilight Express got a better treatment than that with four cars preserved in Kyotojfchttps://tabiris.com/archives/cassiopeia-hozon/
>>2053167Depressing, also Suit did a video for the 10th anniversary of the Hokutosei's demise, was also depressing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPQ7J8HOmYI>>2053078>Actually managed to get a couchette ticket for the overnight Ginga run from Kyoto -> Shingu on October 6 as I have a Kansai Wide Pass in that window>However I've already seen every damn tourist spot from Kushimoto to Kumano and so won't really have anything to enjoy when I get there[spoiler]I don't want to cancel it but it's rather pointless besides the trip itself, fug.
I know this is the Japan thread, but are trains in Taiwan or South Korea filled with the same amount of tism/soul one would get like in Japan? The only other place in Asia I've been to apart from Japan is HK, and the trains there were OK
>>2053944Taiwan's a bit like that, lots of old and new Japanese-origin rolling stock and old wood stations, but mixed in are other things from South African and South Korea.See the many Japanese tetsuota shilltubers on their Taiwan/South Korea trips
>>2053944there are autistic railway enthusiasts everywhere, but in terms of the actual railways south korea and japan are quite different from what i know
hokuriku expansion is so comfy, finally zoomed directly to my favourite prefecture this summer, but what's going on with Echizen-Takefu? booked a hotel nearby only to realise it stole Shin-Takefu's name and has no trains except Shinkansen, so not useful for cheap day trips. my own fault for sloppy planning but still kinda odd
>>2054120>hokuriku expansion is so comfyNo, because it results in more third-sector conversion bullshit.HSR was a mistake, Zairaisen and 夜行列車 forever.
Should Hokkaido just merge with JR East? Or at least JR East should get the profitable lines and the rest can go to third sector or converted over to bus service
>>2054287>Why does the larger JR company not simply eat the smaller one?What would be the benefit for JR East of taking on a company that's never made a single yen in profit since its establishment?>and the rest can go to third sector or converted over to bus serviceThird sector in Hokkaido is just a synonym for slightly-delayed-bankruptcy, and they'd still face the same issues as JR Hokkaido if they tried to offload them without going through the process one-by-one.
Why is Japan so obsessed with train lines being profitable? Just fucking subsidize lines that have some deficit. Generally the benefits of the rail line greatly outweigh the cost of the subsidy.They have rural areas dying and cities bursting at the seams, they should either way have some policies to revive rural areas. Maybe eventually they wouldn't have to import all their food and be completely dependent on China who hates them and could cut off food supplies at any time.
Just bring back JNR.I know Tokai would probably not want anything with that though
>>2054344JNR was prolly the other extreme of inefficiency and overly politicized planning.
>>2054348Sounds great, can't wait to ride the Shinky from wakkanai to nemuro or akiba to tsukuba in 2050 when I am in my late 50s
>>2054287>Or at least JR East should get the profitable linesthere are no profitable jr hokkaido linesthe sapporo area lines just manage to make back their operating costs but lose money when capital costs are included
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>>2054333>Generally the benefits of the rail line greatly outweigh the cost of the subsidy.JNR and then JR Hokkaido had some lines with revenue:operating expense ratios of like 1:2000+, there's no way they were making more 'benefit' when it cost 2000 yen to operate it for every 1 yen they made on those lines.>>2054368>the sapporo area lines just manage to make back their operating costs but lose money when capital costs are includedEven with the massive Sapporo station shopping area?
>>2054402On the one hand I wonder how that figure is calculated. On the other, if you turn service so to shit that noone will want to take the train it's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Like if you run three trains a day you still have maybe 70 or 80% of the cost than if you ran trains every 1-2 hours, but the service becomes disproportionately less attractive.
