I am a railway fan from Moscow. In my free time, I make videos of trains, subways, and transportation. Ask questions about my activities, and the transport of my country, stereotypes, in general, everything that is interesting, I will try to answer.
>>2036639Report for mobilization Ivan
>>2036651There is no war in Moscow. Here, we are safe. Here, we are free.But Sobyanin rised the subway fare again. Fucker.
Despite this, Mosmetro is still operating at a loss, so we expect prices to rise again.
>>2036639Do those long-distance sleeper trains still exist where you have a bunch of bunks in open compartments? Or is everyone just taking the plane for those routes these days?
>>2036660maybe it wouldn't operate at a loss if he didn't build stations in the middle of nowhere
How expensive is it compared to driving?
>>2036639You ever read the Metro books by Glukhovsky/ played the games. I’m just curious how accurate the setting are
I think you mean a "plackart". The reserved seat is still widely used in our country, but we do not have trains that have a reserved seat but no compartment — there is always the option to choose a compartment, but recently some trains do not have a reserved seat. A plackart is 1.5 - 2 times cheaper than a coupe, and I think that a reserved seat is still not such a bad option for transportation. But there are seats on two trains that leave the departure city at 22 PM and arrive at the final destination at 6 AM.
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I'm sorry, I'm new to the site. How do I respond to a specific message? I have not read Glukhovsky's novels.
>>2036639Why the fuck are Moscow's city borders so weird, particularly in the southwest?
>>2036639henlo, what's ur fav line? (metro, long distance, whatever) u been to vladivostok, sakhalin, lake baikal?will railroad ever make it across the lena from nizhny bestyakh to yakutsk? also why tf is yakutsk booming in population?i read the short story Red Pyramid by vladimir sorokin, the train part stuck with me. good story although I don't have nearly enough russian history and literature background to fully understand
>>2036802This is what I'm talking about.
>>2036639Not exactly rail related but I'm still mad that Moscow shut down its trolleybuses.
>>2036816trolleybuses are just inverted monorails
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>>2036639Why is it normal to piss between train cars on interurban trains, but is not common in subway?
>>2036802Because Moscow Region was annexed into the Moscow in 2012 or there about.
>>2036808 #Probably my favorite line is the Filevskaya metro line, because it is the most interesting and not boring for me. Unlike many other lines, it runs almost entirely on the surface and there are, damn it, many beautiful locations. It is the only line in Russia with fork movement — when trains from one station alternately depart and go to different destinations. This system has shown its inefficiency, because the intervals increase greatly and the entire line begins to suffer from a small delay. In addition, this is the only line where, at all terminal stations, the "U-turn" does not take place through special reverse dead ends in the tunnel behind the station by specially designed shunting drivers, but the drivers of the same trains move directly along the platform to opposite cabins. There is a buffet right on the platform at the Arbatskaya intermediate station, and I will definitely get off the train and run if my route runs through this station. It's got the best fuck coffee I've ever had.I haven't been to Siberia or Yakutsk, and I travel a little, mostly around Moscow and sometimes to the region, but I've watched videos about it.I haven't heard about population growth, I've Googled it now, it seems like the increase is absolutely natural, that is, no one moved there, just more people were born.
>>2036821The fact that it is normal to piss between cars is a strong word. I don't know anyone I know who has done this or believes that it is "normal" in our country.All suburban trains have a toilet, in other regions they are being monitored, but in Moscow the electric trains are being updated and more than half of them are already there, but the depot just gave a dick for cleaning toilets in old trains. I personally visited this toilet 2 weeks ago (photo). And the toilets may also not work when your trip may last 2-3 hours. In such cases, doing your own business in the car is the only option.But in the new trains, there are no doors between the cars at all and cameras everywhere, so I think it's better not to do it there.In the subway, the doors between the cars are closed on old trains, and if you illegally opened these doors using a special key, you can pay a fine, but on new trains there are cameras everywhere and there are no doors between the cars, just a passage. And besides, most subway rides don't exceed an hour, so I don't think you'll need toilets, and if you do, some transfer hubs have paid toilets (~80¢)).
>>2036802The "official" borders are bogus. Moscovites usually don't consider anything beyond the ring road Moscow (or even habitable).The big exclave to the top left is the OG soviet one, Zelenograd. It's a university town and the center of Russia's semiconductor manufacturing, and as such, in the soviet days was mostly populated by either very smart people or people who are about to become very smart. These smart people wanted the benefits and prestige of having Moscow residency, so Zelenograd is still kinda Moscow but also kinda isn't. The little tumors all around the city are all residential areas that kinda got assmiliated over years, to be given public transport unified with Moscow's system. All but two of them have metro stations nowadays. There are more residential areas that didn't get assimilated (note the smooth top right), but for the most part the ring road is lined with either forests or industrial land. The big tumor is the "New Moscow". Mostly forest. Exists because Sobyanin started running out of Moscow to build real estate on, and also to claim that Moscow's ecological situation has, on average, improved. The few towns that were in the area were not amused by Moscow's arrival tho. Note that the big tumor is flanked on both sides by older small tumors, you can see their thinner district borders- on the top left that's Skolkovo, another university town, now 100% more post-soviet, and lower right is Butovo, which has uniquely elevated metro (picrelated).The squiggly exclave to the left is owned by a big banker who lobbied for it to be a part of Moscow. Probably some tax thing. Don't pay attention.
>>2036839Butovo also has a train particle accelerator, I mean, test loop. And a village with no electricity or running water inside the loop.
>>2036802Moscow needs new territories because many people from the regions come to Moscow to study and work, and they need somewhere to live.
>>2036834>special reverse dead ends in the tunnel behind the station by specially designed shunting drivers>specially designed shunting drivers [guess you meant "designated"]lolwutI've never heard of any place having shunting drivers at the end of the line. Does it maybe have something to do with the very tight frequency?
>>2036639Last thing I heard there was work ongoing to interconnect the suburban train lines which ended at the terminal stations. Is that still ongoing?
>>2036869Sorry, I have to admit that I use a translator :(I meant that there are special people at the terminal stations, train drivers. The train arrives at the terminal station and the driver who operated the train along the entire route gets off, and at the same time two shunting drivers get into the front and rear cabins each. First, the driver from the lead (first) car drives the train into a dead end, then he transfers control to the driver of the tail (last) car, who takes the train back to the station.
>>2036870Yes, by 2023, 4 dimetric suburban railway lines have been created.There are still 2 lines without a diametrical connection (D5), but it seems that it can not be expected for the next 5 years for sure. These lines are the hardest to connect, and probably not that necessary.
Huh. The English Wikipedia pages for Moscow transit are surprisingly decent.
>>2036876I understood you, I just think that's really curious. I don't know any place that does that. Closest thing I've seen is that at the end of the line there's another train driver waiting so he can get in at the other end of the train and get going right away.>>2036877Though the concept makes sense, the execution is a bit odd, since they route all the lines through the north side. Would have made more sense to build new tunnels through the city, but that was probably too expensive.Are all the trains coming from Aprelevka routed through this new line or do some still end at Kievskaya? Seems impractical to have that much of a roundabout before reaching the changeover with the circular line.
>>2036945Some trains are still running to Kievskaya, but they have made a new traffic pattern, there has never been such a thing in Moscow before. All MCD trains from the Zheleznodorozhnaya side go along their separate tracks to Aprelevka with all stops, and do not go beyond it. And there are also 2 more routes along which all trains from the far suburbs of the Kiev direction go, they only go to Kievskaya, but on the section from Aprelevka to Kievskaya they skip a lot of points (they stop only at 4 out of 17)By the way, transfers between these trains can be made free of charge and unhindered.
>>2036878>tightening radius on rampthat is not going to end well
How are the Moscow Central Diameters? Have they meaningfully changed transportation in Moscow? The trains look nice
I think so, because passengers have more similar routes. Previously, people could only choose the subway because, first of all, to take the train, you need to look at the timetable, otherwise you can wait a long time, and the subway always runs often. Now trains also run frequently and you don't have to look at the timetable in advance, but just come to the station knowing that you will definitely leave on time. And of course, the comfort of new electric trains plays a role.Based on all this, the flow of passengers is evenly distributed between the metro and the trains. Also, the presence of diameters through the center of Moscow plays a role. If the line ends at a train station in Moscow, then passengers simply arrive at the train station and the whole crowd goes to the subway at one/two/ three stations of the same transfer hub, then they go to the line they need and switch to it. But now people can immediately make direct transfers to those lines that they previously could not, and the excess occupancy of other lines is decreasing.
Do Russian transport unions have much power? Are there regular strikes? (apart from drones)
>>2036992Troika (metro card) integration and more frequent service made the routes a lot more convenient, and I've been using them more since they banned folding bikes (among other transport) from the regular subway. The additional coverage on the periphery in addition to the MCC is pretty nice. But I'll use this opportunity to rant a bit about that personal transport ban on the subway (or rather, "all wheeled transport should be bagged", which is effectively a ban, can't even take a skateboard or roll a monowheel like a suitcase o' batteries that it is), it's clearly been done to force people to use Yandex's rental scooters. And the fuckers enforce it too. Mafia city.
>>2036732You can get 100 years of unlimited pass ticket for a price of a middle-range car.
I want to visit Russia but I can't because of FUCKING SANCTIONS
>>2037140can you actually not or is it just difficult? i must go next year, though stuff would have changed by then but perhaps not
>>2037251It has always been a huge pain in the ass for westerners to visit Russia. All sorts of dumb visas and what not. I would be especially leery of going now where you might get turned into a pawn in prisoner release diplomacy.
>>2037251>no direct flights>no international booking aggregators>cash only>>2037265Just don't bring (((medical))) cannabis in your purse.
>>2037265I used to travel there from w. Europe to visit some distant senpai, I just went to a travel agency that was specialised and they got me the visa done in a couple of days for a reasonable price. Don't know if this is still possible.I think for flying there the easiest way is via Istanbul as its not that much roundabout and Turkish is a really good airline, or via Belgrade or Dubai.Alternatively you can travel to Narva in Estonia, cross the border on foot and from there take a bus or train to St. Petersburg, which is like two hours away.
>>2037287I'd be going Tokyo -> Beijing -> Vladivostok I think. Which is a ridiculous detour since they're so close but whatever
>>2036869>>2036876I believe that's also a thing for dealing with incidents on the Paris Metro and RER, though only using one extra driver: driver one drives the train into the terminus, driver 2 gets into the back cab while passengers exit the train, they both maneuver to reverse the train, driver 2 drives back into the station, driver 1 leaves while passengers board, driver 2 drives the line back (so you don't actually even need an extra driver, as driver 1 can now be someone else's driver 2).Pretty sure it's at least colloquially known as "the Moscow maneuver"
>>2036639OP post pics and info on Kalanchyovskaya resp. Ploschad Tryokh Vokzalov station. This seems to be one of the major elements of the central diameter right?From what it seems on the map three lines ought to pass through there.Also question: Apart from the suburban elektrichkas is there much regional rail service around moscow (not long distance)?
>>2037409>KalanchyovskayaOnly D2 and D4 trains pass through the station itself. D1 (Leningradsky railway terminal), Yaroslavsky and Kazansky terminals and Komsomolskaya metro station are 5-10 minutes away on foot. The area has been a major transport hub since the latter half of 19th century.>regional rail serviceThere are trains to all neighbouring regions, with 2-4 hours travel time, most notable being Moscow-St.Petersburg high speed rail. If you want to travel beyond the Golden Ring, take the overnigth sleeper train pill.
>>2036639Did you used to post on 1chan?
are train drivers considered lowly peasants in your country
>>2038757No, in fact they get paid better than rocket engineers.
>>2038767how is that possible some kind of labour shortage bs?
>>2038818Scientists, academics and teachers in Russia are supposed to work on pure enthusiasm, and paying them generously like in the Soviet times would set a precedent where everyone would suddenly want to be a scientist and there won't be anyone left to be a bydlo who would vote for Putin, support our alcohol industry and trust everything on the screen. Meanwhile, Mosmetro pays reasonably well for the job done. Funnily enough, Mosgortrans, in charge of trams, buses et al, apparently struggles to get enough drivers in the meantime. Maybe they don't pay enough.
I went to Moscow in 2001. Loved it. I would really like to go again now I'm in my 30s.
>>2039474They've shut down the trolleybus system not long ago, those absolute niggers
you ever taken one of those jet turbine powered river hydrofoils from the 1960s?
>>2041336Not OP but I took a ride on one of the old Meteors in St Petersburg when I was maybe 4 years old. I remember it being very loud, but that's about it. By the time I realised how cool it actually was many years later, it was long gone.They apparently started making new ones recently, though. Maybe I should go for a ride in one of them this summer, actually. None of them in Petersburg yet but they are navigating Volga already.
>>2041415Doing it
>>2042457Valdai-class hydrofoil, the small one, navigating from Nizhniy Novgorod.
>>2042458low n slow modewill likely lose internet by the time we lift off
>>2042459file fell off
>>2042460flying mode super smooth
>>2036651why dont you just sod off to >>>/pol/?
>>204246168 km/h on wings, 20 on hull. Transitionary mode seems to be the highest load, engine power is set higher than on cruise and there's lots of buffeting, but once this baby hits 55 it's all gone and it glides smoothly over the surface. A lot quieter than I remember the old one being. Neat stuff. We should try selling them internationally.
>We should try selling them internationally.By "we" you mean Ukrainians, when Crimea (where these are made) is Ukraine again, right?
>>2042517>(where these are made)The Crimea plant is doing final assembly on Comets, the sea-faring big ones, that are built in Yaroslavl. Meteor and Valdai are both built in Novgorod.
>>2042470>>2042550What would I search for on youtube to watch a video of these
>>2042517>(You)
>>2036639I mean, the obvious question would be a чo нa фopчaнe a нe нa двaчe but maybe I should ask myself the same as fellow a railway fan from russia moscow
parovoz?
>>2042571>(You)
>>2036652Whoa whoa whoa...easy there kozak. You don't want to accidentally fall out of the window now, do you?
>>2042553Not him, but check out PoletME. He has a ton of great travel videos including a number on hydrofoils.
>>2036639Are you still here, comrade. Do you fly? Here Russian aircraft are uncommon, but I do see An-2, An-12, An-124, Il-76 and Yak trainer. We also get the Czech L-410 and Mi-8 helicopter.Never mind the trolls here. I am from Belarus, but live in the US now. Some of your pictures bring back memories of the transport network.If you see the 4TE10, please send me a picture. Also please send me a picture of any airfields. Despite me mentioning the above types, they are few and far between. In fact, I am homesick enough to import model airplanes of the aircraft of the past. My favorite is the oкypoк as we used to call it (yak-40 is the technical name). For Westerners, it was an airliner that seated about 30 people, but it had three jet engines. Its smoke could be seen for miles around. They were still flying the last time I checked, despite being a 50 year old design at this point. Not for Aeroflot, but still flying nevertheless.
>>2036809Gerrymandering
Moscow Monorail has ceased operation. They're going to convert it into an elevated park instead. They decided on a very short notice, people were notified only a day in advance, so there's definitely some shenanigans abound. I was busy that day so I couldn't come but I've heard that trains were super packed. But on the other hand, it was already on its last legs because they decided to make everything bespoke instead of buying an existing system and then failed to procure even replacement parts, nevermind new rolling stock, and most of its route is doubled up by a tram that literally goes right underneath for most of the route, so not a big loss for transit. RIP to yet another gadgetbahn.
>>2045091love that channel. it's a shame what geopolitics has done to the world, I'd love to visit russia but I'd either get arrested and held hostage on arrival or I'd get stabbed by a local tough guy for being either brown or american. oh well I guess I'll have to stay home and wait to be denaturalized and sent off to a salvadoran gulag for my 4chan shitposts, land of the free...
>>2046795Eh, just get the visa and don't do anything terminally stupid, you'll be fine, especially in Moscow. Moscow is super safe. Learn to read cyrillic letters, you'll find a lot of familiar-sounding words on signs and extarpolate from there. Most people in Moscow know english so don't hesitate to ask around either.St Petersburg can be a bit gangsta on the periphery, but you likely won't end up in these places. Anywhere a regular tourist can end up is safe. Piter has a fun /n/ quirk, the bridges go up at night so you can't get from one end of the city to another, don't end up on the wrong side. I recommend taking an overnight train from Moscow if you wanna visit it, you'll save on a hotel and get a traditionally russian /n/ experience. If you're brave, get a bunk on a plackart (pictured higher up in the thread), you won't regret it. The hardest part would be actually getting to Russia, almost nobody in Europe flies there nowadays. Serbia and Turkey do, but if you are an american you'll probably have to do two relays. >brown or americanRussians aren't particularly racist in person, actually. At worst they'll treat you like a curiosity and try to drag you to drink with them, to test your alcohol tolerance. Don't fall for it, don't drink with russians, but otherwise you'll be fine.
>>2046569SWill they finally extend the tram line westward to connect with Metro lines 10, 9 and the railway line? Seems it'd be really stupid if they didn't.I remember reading years ago that they wanted to shut down the monorail and extend the tram instead.
bump to save from urbanism spam
>>2046870You could take a look at the map and see that the only way to achieve that would be through tram-rail superposition. Even if technically possible, good luck negotiating ANYTHING with RZhD, they hate any intrusions on their soil. A few years ago there were proposals to reuse the section of monorail going over the tracks for trams, but the tram would have to do too steep of a grade to get onto monorail's elevation between the already existing tram tracks and the nearest monorail station, and apparently the pylons are not strong enough to support two tram tracks anyway. Not sure how they are going to support tons of soil, trees, guardrails and humans when they build the elevated park in its place, but that project has mojo and replacing cool monorail with boring tram does not, so they picked the one where Sobyanin can come and cut the red tape with a big grin.
Siberian Mainline extension to Magadan (from Nizhny), yea or nay?
>>2036639How does this make you feel? It's at my local station.
