hongcouver getting some china ferries…elbows up?
You are now aware leaf politicians are owned by the chinks.What a joke of a country, tucked beyond belief
>>2046182>hongcouver getting some china ferriesIt's even funnier when you realize BC skipped over the shipyards in Quebec probably because of corruption/mafia, reasoning that at least the Chinese will deliver something.>…elbows up?just anti-Americanism--the only form of Ottawa-approved "patriotism" in Canada.The same people pushing "Elbows UP" supported freezing the Convoy protestors' bank accounts.
>>2046182Good."Economic" patriotism is so fucking dumb. Corporations aren't people, we owe them fucking nothing. Fucking shitters sucking the public teat and then fucking us over on costs, timelines, basically anything they think they can get away with.>>2046317The Canadian shipyards have zero fucking experience building this particular type of ship, because the projects specs are requiring electric boats. If they want to enter this market, prove yourself with some fucking municipal ferries in Halifax or shit.BC isn't going to Fast Ferries 2.0, especially not an NDP government.
>>2046338“Free trade” only works when all countries are generally similar (e.g. US/Cucknada). You can’t “free trade” with hostile enemies that want to subvert and install police stations to control their 5th columns like the Chinese communist party does. If you’re going to blow money on wasteful pork barrel spending, it should either be a local firm or your natural allies (US shipyards). It’s completely retarded to actively aid an enemy hostile to you.Speaking of fast ferries, it was commissioned the last time The NDP was in power, the same corrupt and inept morons that run the province today(except the NDP today is more woke and more treasonous)
>>2046273Americans are owned by oil barons, your point?
>>2046338 #>Corporations aren't people, we owe them fucking nothingAs much as I want to believe this, The Corporations own The Governments now in 2025 because Money is Power and Power is the capacity to produce Work and The Government LOVES "Work" and so, The Corporations have gained more Power than The People. If you think it's bad now, a cyberpunk dystopia where The Corporations have privatized every inch of Earth awaits us all because The Government couldn't stave from Greed.>"Work" is the ability to carry "Movement"
>>2046372GOTEM!
build a bridge>waah the water moves too fastleafs simultaneously think they are the greatest country on the continent yet have incapable of doing anything notable
>>2046182>…elbows up?Trump ended trade talks over Canada's digital services tax and Carney responded by dropping the tax immediately. But he will continue to talk tough and appear anti American. Canada is a big joke that makes countries like New Zealand look serious.
>>2046182Canadian yards are booked for ten years. Not a single one tendered a bid. The Americans are retarded.Europe was slow and expensive.China was fast and economical.
>>2048184Well of course, Chinas economy is built on undercutting competition by making shit with cheap materials and labor, if you wanted something good, you wouldn't go for something made by the Chinese, Leafs just have low standards.
>>2048186 As somebody who will actually ride one of these things I'm ok with this. The Fastcats were a fucking disaster and we need boats now, not in 15 years.
>>2046182I wonder if it's made from the same "quality" chinese steel the Johnson Street bridge in Victoria was built with. It took 2 tries to get it right, each time Victoria paid full price even though China sold them defective steel.
>>2046440You are now aware PEI got such an incredibly large amount of pork they could build the confederation bridge to literally bridge themselves to the mainland, while Vancouver Island won’t get shit for the Georgia Straight because the Canadian constitution discriminates against the west and so do the feds in everything they do especially pork barrel spending. Western separation when?>>2048188Why not buy them back? They were sold for Pennies on the dollar in a final insult to BC taxpayers. They operate in Maine or somewhere like that now
>>2048401Omg, are you one of those Island "build a bridge to the mainland" retards? Do you know how fucking deep Georgia Strait is? (thanks for not using the woke term, btw). I worked for an engineering firm that did a study (several times) for over 35 years on the feasability of such a project and everytime it shows the technology isn't there and would be prohibitively expensive to develop, build and maintain. Smart people know this. This is why the Province shelves the studies as they come up from time to time. And every adult taxpayer in this province knows of our penchant for project cost overrruns. A bridge to the mainland is a crackpipe dream. There's literally nothing on the mainland that we don't have on the Island. If you don't like it move to the mainland. If you're so bent on expenses start working on the CEO's salary of $7 million per annum. The equivalent position for the Washington State ferry system is $450K/annum.>buy the Fastcats backOkay, now i'm convinced your either not a local, a doper, or some dumbass kid who doesn't know what he's talking about. Or a troll. Care to enlighten us on which one it is?The Fastcats were defective and riddled with problems. Everyone adult in BC knows that. It brought down a government, for Christs sake. They've been in Egypt rotting for 20 years and about to be scrapped because they're pieces of crap and NOBODY. WANTS. THEM.
too many urbanism threads so I'll bump the wumao thread
>>20461823 passenger decks are nice, hopefully it means more desk areas to do work. Though the loss of the outdoor deck will be felt.
>>2048399>removing the original, iconic historic bridge for this Chinese nu-slop Victoria is genuinely run by retards
>>2046372>Yeah, but, Americans!Do you fags think about anything else?
What do you expect from a province run entirely by left wing extremist? The entire NDP platform is dangerously close to being anarchistic. Of course they won’t buy anything Canadian made
Canada literally doesn't have the capability to design and build such vessels. The other option was to pay a Finnish shipbuilder out the ass to set up shop in a Canadian drydock and move pieces mostly manufactured in Finland to Canada to be assembled by newly trained workers, most of whom will be laid off once the ferries are built, the same charade the federal government does with military vessels.
name even one canadian shipbuilder that has ever made anything good ever
>>2055435Hey, we made some decent ships back in the wooden era!Though that was mostly because Europe deforested itself and literally could no longer make ships fast enough with what was left...
>>2055435picrel were made in quebec and while they're fucking useless to the military, purely as ships they're perfectly okay and the few glaring design fuckups were the result of government meddling (and not even that important, like what exact material to make non-water ballast out of, and adding a bit of extra length that impacted handling slightly but also added a bunch more cabins)>>2052184have you ever been to victoria? its population is made up of abbos, military people who are utterly transient, and retired boomers. of course everything is retarded>>2046338the idea is if you buy local, it makes local jobs, and increases economic velocity. it's basically a way to do stealth welfare; instead of just paying hobos who will just spend it on crack, you fork over the cash to Irving who will then employ the hobos who will still buy lots of crack but also be emboldened to do things like rent property or eat groceries and otherwise participate in the normal economy, which in turn requires they pay taxes. its kinda like a pyrimid skeem
>>2046273Based, can't wait for Canada to become a Chinese province so it will finally have proper infrastructure.
>>2055505>the idea is if you buy local, it makes local jobs, and increases economic velocity. it's basically a way to do stealth welfare; instead of just paying hobos who will just spend it on crack, you fork over the cash to Irving who will then employ the hobos who will still buy lots of crack but also be emboldened to do things like rent property or eat groceries and otherwise participate in the normal economy, which in turn requires they pay taxes. its kinda like a pyrimid skeemI am aware of the economic arguments like this. I actually have an undergraduate economic background. Which is precisely the reason I say the arguments are retarded.Paying the hobos the money straight up will cost less than your elaborate stealth-welfare program. Especially when you consider how much the Irving clan that owns the corporations are going to skim off the top before it gets to the hobos. And the money stolen by the Irvings will not be going into the economy because they will just put it in overseas bank accounts.The only reason we don't pay the hobos straight up is that it has bad optics. Hobos look dirty and don't make for good photo ops compared to the Irving clan. And if you start giving money to some of the hobos in Nova Scotia, the ones in BC start to notice and get uppity, and there are a lot more hobos in BC than in NS.
>>2055588true but remember that the irvings will either kick back the money or have a politician driveby'd as appropriate if they dont do it that way whilst BC only has namby pamby film studios and techbro startups who do not enjoy such power
