We are the most walkable city in the USAWe have pretty good public transit for the USABUT something sad is when I go to cities like SF and El Paso and Dallas among others I see old Philadelphia trolley cars. Yes, it's well know Philadelphia's trolley cars are world famous and we sold many of them off to other cities when we dismantled some lines. I've seen them in person in these cities. It just makes me sad but also a bit proud my transit history is all over the country I guess.I just want people to know that. That yes... Philadelphia trolleys are everywhere. It's a bitter sweet momentOh by the way... you didn't think pic related was Philly did you? Nope... that's El Paso with a Philadelphia street car. Imagine how that feels for Philadelphians.
>>2049412Those are just PCC cars which were the closest the U.S. came to a common streetcar design, and they ran in many cities besides Philly. It’s cool to see some of them still running there—outside of Boston, El Paso, Kenosha and SF you’ll only see them in museums. Brooklyn, shown here, had the first ones in 1936.
>>2049423They are from Philly specifically. They purchased philadelphia's old cars. In SF they even have a historical plaque on the cars saying thank you to Philadelphia...
>>2049436I don't care where they run, just nice some streetcars got saved
>>2049436A lot of PCCs were sold secondhand to other cities. I think these Newark cars came from Minneapolis. Detroit sold hundreds of PCCs only a decade old to Mexico City and lost money in the deal as they agreed to deliver them in like-new condition and Mexico City livery but some were damaged in transit. While I prefer older styles, they’re a great work of Art Deco design which also influenced the Tatra streetcars found all over Eastern Europe.
>>2049412>Philadelphia's trolley cars are world famousNo they're not, PCCs are world famous, and those just happen to be PCCs from Philadelphia.
>>2049502>Philadelphia has run electric streetcars since 1892, and some of its routes (like Route 11) have operated continuously for over 100 years.>It's one of only a few U.S. cities to maintain a substantial legacy streetcar network—others being San Francisco and New Orleans.Philadelphia is a world famous trolley hobby spot
>>2049517>Philadelphia is a world famous trolley hobby spotNo it's not.
>>2049522Yes it is.
>>2049540Philly is a trolley Mecca but the Pennsylvania Trolley Museum is hours away near Pittsburgh, though well worth the trip. There’s closer trolley museums in Scranton, and Rockhill Furnace next to the East Broad Top narrow gauge steam railroad. For model trolleys, the Philly area has probably the biggest group in the country, the East Penn Traction Club.
>>2049540>AI slopleave.
>>2049412>>2049423Can you all in philly please take them back? We hate them here, they are a waste of money and generally are disliked. Underutilized, very limited routes, and get derailed by fucking baseballs.
>>2049573>AI slop is bad for some reason. use google like a normal person and just click on the first result you see KYS ChatGPT>>>>>Google >>2049586Where are you even from that baseballs are a common everyday hazard on streets? Brooklyn in the 1930s?
>>2049599>Where are you even from that baseballs are a common everyday hazard on streets? Brooklyn in the 1930s?There were so many trolleys in Brooklyn that they called the baseball team the Trolley Dodgers, later shortening it to Dodgers.
>>2049412I like the modern pantograph instead of the shitty "heritage" pole collector found on other vintage trams.
Philadelphia PCC in the “Gulf Oil” livery. They had some nice paint schemes, like the silver”Philly Cream Cheese” and a red white and blue bicentennial livery.
>>2049586The El Paso ballpark was completed downtown roughly the same time as the streetcars were installed. You can google it, one of the cars got derailed by a baseball.
Pittsburgh had a massive PCC fleet at one time with a lot of interesting liveries.
Mustang stuck in the #36 route tunnel with a Philadelphia PCC trolley
>>2050052this is the photo that gave Elon the idea for Loop
built for PCC
Pacific Electric double ended PCC. What other cities had these? I know Dallas had some that were sold to Boston.
Give me infinite money and I will revive the 56 along with the 53 and the 23 to Washington Ave as boondoggle heritage lines
A line of Detroit PCC cars on a railfan trip shortly before they were sold to Mexico City at a loss. They ran for years afterwards but many were destroyed in the 80s when an earthquake collapsed a carbarn.
>>2050344San Francisco also had double ended PCCs.iirc they also bought the last PCCs evar.
>>2049412>Oh by the way... you didn't think pic related was Philly did you?No, I thought this would be a thread on the 1877 Philly rail strike, but you let me down.
There’s plenty of heritage lines and museums with rehabbed PCCs but Boston’s Mattapan-Ashmont line has been running these continuously since 1945, though they probably won’t be around much longer.
San Francisco #1040, the last of over 5000 PCCs manufactured
>>2050748>they probably won’t be around much longerGay and cringe, Milan has Peter Witt trams from the late 20s in regular service
>dude why don't we have walkable cities!!>90% white city of 2 million people in 1940>30% white city of 1.5 million todayover a million whites fled the cityReally makes you think huhMaybe if only they could have walked to the store, and taken the bus.. they would have stayed?
>>2051015Streetcars on the St. Charles line in New Orleans are a century old and still running.
>>2051047Why wouldn't they is a rational pretty way to do public transport, at small scale and not like a crazy stampede
>>2051098>the big choo choo scare me :<
>>2051098>>2051166The St. Charles line is historical, one of the oldest transit lines in the world, dating back to horsecars in the 1830s, yet it’s not just a tourist meme. Everyday commuters use it as well as out of towners gawking at the Garden District and going to party in the French Quarter. Newer lines have retro style cars but the shops keep fabricating parts for those 1920s Perley Thomas cars.To circle back to OPs post, at one time New Orleans tested out a Philly PCC and both systems share the same 62 1/2” “Pennsylvania Broad Gauge”.
The Pennsylvania Trolley Museum just rolled out the refurbished “Terrible Trolley” celebrating the Pittsburgh Steelers. Pittsburgh had a crazy variety of PCC liveries, some by the company but many as private commercial schemes.
>>2051176Cool >>2051251Very lame
>>2049412>We are the most walkable city in the USAIs Philly that much more walkable than any other major East Coast city?
Chicago had some big ass PCCs with shrouded wheel wells
Let's be honest: Who would voluntarily use public transit in these United States of America?Americans need to "social distance" themselves in order to ensure they'll see the next day.You don't have the populace to make public transit work out. And Europe is losing it as well thanks to 2015.In the end only East Asia will remain, and the flood of Western refugees will ruin those sanctuaries of civilization and public transit as well.
>>2053268>>>/pol/
>>2053303This is not about Iryna Zarutska, it's about the state of American public transport.How to make busses and trains safe again.That's the absolute baseline, public transport has to clear for anyone with a choice to use it.
>>2053268>Who would voluntarily use public transit in these United States of America?Most don't. I currently live in Philadelphia and there's large numbers of people that only use rideshare services to travel. they don't walk more than 5 blocks and don't take any public transit.
>>2053268luckily for me very few crackheads use the bus routes I use. Its mostly older people with suspended liscences
>>2049412Forget about Legacy vehicles you need to worry about SEPTA ceasing to exist right now lol
>>2053268How is public transportation different from any other public space? Someone could just as easily get stabbed in a convenience/grocery store, gas station, or public restroom. Perhaps the problem is the stabbing, looting, and shooting, not the public places themselves. If you are afraid of such places, don't use them, or learn self-defense.
Let's be honest: Who would voluntarily use public transit in the People's Republic of China?The Chinese need to "social distance" themselves in order to ensure they'll see the next day.You don't have the living standards or work culture to make public transit work out. And Europe is losing it as well thanks to 2015.In the end only America will remain, and the flood of Chinese suicidal refugees (China is the second largest source of immigration behind Mexico) will ruin those sanctuaries of civilization and public transit as well.
