DC2 and a half editionPrevious >>2040735
absolutely no aviation jobs are hiring and probably will not be for like a year or more. i mean the industry in general, not just pilot positions
>>2051990Nah the hiring has definitely picked back up after two years of near complete stagnation. The difference now is that every month we break the record (set only last month) for people getting xyz rating. It’s almost the surplus that the military was creating in the Cold War. A lot of ngmi’s.
>>2051995for pilots it's probably gonna be fucked for a little while. the shortage psyop got so many people to open their wallets (and/or their anuses for money lenders) and now there's gonna be a seemingly perpetual log jam for a whilebut even ops jobs are kinda frozen at the moment, and i haven't seen ramp ops jobs available in my city either
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>>2051995>>2052005Is it really that bad? Im nearing PPL checkride and planned on going to atp certificate. should I just trade crypto and tend bar
>>2052015well you'll be fine for sure if you don't take out a shit ton of debt
>>2052008Des Moines, Iowa
>>2052008Durango CO
>>2052015It’s a competition. Are you better than most of your peers? OK you’ll probably be fine. There’s a lot of retards, shitskins and clueless women in the pipeline now. By the time a pre-PPL gets to the level of applying to 121’s DEI will probably be in the dustbin of history.So just be better. If you can’t do that then I’d say quit.
>>2052033I had a flight attendant pronounce it as “Dess Monies” over the PA kek
>>2052073let me guess. F9 or NK
>dispatchers have jumpseat privileges for airlines in agreements with each other>this include cargo airlines>jumpseat joyride in a 747 because why the fuck not
>>2052082Nah this was at the regionals. But when I was at Spirit, we parked next to Allegiant and a flight attendant asked me who “Alley-Giant” was lol
Flew for the first time with auto pilot today. Was unnerving at first having the plane control itself however I got over that quickly. The G1000 is nice but it's a lot of info.
>>2052527GFC700 or something else?
>>2052529GFC500
Is it just me or do people greatly exaggerate and dramatize the difficulty of ATC work? Looking at flightradar for a long ass time it doesn't look that fucking crazy. Even YYZ shit
>>2052688Use a simulator and find out.
>>2052688Being a surgeon isn't all that difficult either. Most are specialized and do the same few cuts hundreds of times a year.What makes both jobs difficult that you have to do them every day for 30+ years and every small mistake you make could kill people.
>>2052688ATC certification is very difficult and the infamous “checkride” is no joke.I know more than one pilot who went through OKC, graduated and couldn’t handle the pressure of being a controller so they got their ratings instead. For the majority of flying jobs there’s no question that ATC is way more difficult, way more intensive and way more demanding mentally than being a pilot.Some exceptions are out there. A small segment of military pilots, agriculture pilots, many (but not all) helicopter guys, single-pilot floatplane ops…that stuff can be just as demanding as ATC with obviously high accident rates.
>>2052688>Looking at flightradar for a long ass time it doesn't look that fucking crazyOpinion instantly discarded
one of my friends is a regional first officer and he told me that he fucked the female captain on each night if his 4 day trip. But they aren’t dating, they just fucked and that was it. It scares me to think that when I become an FO and fly with female captains, that they just take the dick like that.
>>2052878Are you afraid you won't be able to take as much as them?
>>2052879I know they won’t have sex with me. But it’s crazy to think that I’m going to have an attractive professional sitting in the left seat next to me, but behind hotel doors she’s a freak
>>2052880Here's a not so big secret. Most younger pilots are similar. For example, I'm gooning hardcore when I get in that hotel room. I can choose to goon, or explore the same shithole city with expensive garbage food, or hit the gym. So I stroke it until I gotta choke it. That said, women should not be flying aircraft, sorry to hear about the whores. Just another reason to never apply to jewnited.
I’ve fucked more married women pilots than all other married job types combined. They cheat compulsively, it clearly gets them off and is a huge reason they do the job. Not that all pilots don’t cheat, but the women are way more brazen and aggressive about it.FWIW I’m married too and I cant resist it. It’s hot as hell. But man I do have a little bit of guilt sometimes whereas these women clearly do not.
>>2052917why do people act like united is the gay liberal airline? wouldn't that be alaska or sun country?
>>2052937they're probably from chicago, ORD is dominated by UA and flies to destinations favored by more well-heeled travelers like copenhagen, tokyo, and milano, whereas MDW is dominated by WN that thrives on depressing spots where the working class go for fun, like kansas city, tampa, and las vegas. so naturally you would associate UA with gay liberals who look down their nose at real americans, and WN would be based and redpilled and they really care about a regular guy like me
>>2052943AA has an ORD hub and base. Their FAs are not almost entirely composed of lesbians and trannys like UAL
>>2052917>I'm gooning hardcore when I get in that hotel roomwtf, do you really? I don’t watch porn on overnights
>>2052937UA is arguably the most DEI focused large firm in the United States.
>>2052937Huge DEI pushers. Known to hire any """minority""" status with minimum experience over a qualified white man. Love to hire and fellate women and trannies. Pilot interview has no technical questions, only 'Tell me a time when' emotional intelligence questions. Hard required the vax. Kirby is an open faggot that sucks big black dildos at public parades. Don't know shit about Alaska or Sunny, feel free to educate me on why I should deny their crews a jumpseat due to fear of AIDS.
>>2052951the only thing about sunny is the possibility of creeps from the twin cities, but granted i'd imagine that a lot of the people there live in nicer places like eagan or something. i remember alaska basically being a united-lite thoughi've also noticed one or two troon dispatchers, but i'm not sure which airline they work for, probably a regional since there's no movement in aviation right now
>>2052948>watchno my friend, I read doujins
>>2052955>nicer places like eaganlol
>>2052960what's wrong with eagan? crime rate isn't bad, rent not horrible, etc.
>>2052962>tattoochecks out
>>2052961I mean there are worse places if you set the bar really low but "nice" and "eagan" just sounds silly to me. it's where divorced middle aged men move if they never want to have sex again
>>2052964does that mean she has sex?
>>2052965sure but the options for areas within driving distance of work at the airport are a bit slim
>>2052972They really aren't, but your fear of minorities is stronger than your desire for women. But lots of dadbod single men! You might have more in common with the gays and trannies than you thought!
>>2052975brown hands typed this post
>>2052966CorrectShe probably had sex with dogs too
>>2052962damn, i missed it
>>2052999Meh, you didn’t missed a lot : Sports bra matching running shoes, leggings, tattoos and she was using AirPods Max as wellNo mentionable tits or ass, sadly (but at least she’s fit)Oh and do I have to precise that she is white?
600TT CFI and CFII. I am a cadet and have CJOs at three different regionals. HR told me they don't care how I get the hours. I quit teaching and am time building.
>>2053016Are you asking or telling?
Is it viable to start a career as a pilot with zero previous experience at 35? For the past 2 months I've been looking into it, and there's some conflicting info for the time it would take me to get qualified.I already have some money saved to start off, and I plan on staying at my current job at least until I get my private license (currently working as IT, yeah I know its easy money and all but I fucking loathe it).I'm brazilian so the process might be very different from US/Europe, but I'm just looking for some general direction.
>>2053020Telling but also asking if I made the right decision.
>>2053024If you were American, I'd say it is viable. Unfortunately I don't know anything about the airlines outside the US beyond the fact that they don't pay well compared to the US.>>2053025How are you time building? Are you paying for hours, or getting paid to fly? What type aircraft, what are you accomplishing like XC, night, simulated instrument time, etc.
FYI of the 10% or so of people who fail their LOE its pretty much all timebuilders (as in paid to fly VFR safety pilot to ATP mins) who fail. Being unable to do the job of CFI, or even worse being unable to pass a CFI checkride, is not a good sign.Washing out of 121 training is very bad. Vastly worse than primary training checkride failures. Realistically a 2000 hour pilot with a 121 failure is behind people with 3+ checkrides failures at ATP mins, or to put it in even more bleak terms behind a 0TT pilot about to take his first discovery flight.So if you’re gonna do timebuild just stay sharp and ready to learn
>>2053041There is a big difference between having a bad go during LOE the first time, but coming back and getting it on the 2nd try compared to actually “washing out”
>>2053025I have no idea why you didn’t just keep the CFI job, put it on the back burner taking only the bare minimum work to stay employed, and then timebuild anyways. That way you get the benefits of timebuilding without the stigma of being a timebuilder.BTW that stigma is real and has plenty of basis.
if i get hired at Delta am I assigned a mentor pilot gf to work out with me at the hotel gym on overnights?
>>2053130Total bullshit. I don't care what other pilots think. I am already in a cadet program with CJO in hand. I was told class date as soon as I hit minimums.
>>2053452>i don't care what other pilots think>>asking if I made the right decisionlmao
Tailwheel or seaplane? Do airlines care about either or should I just get more multi-time in anyway?
I'm about to start ATC training in a couple of months bros. What am I in for?
how come were all right wing radicals, boys?unironically 90% of the pilots i fly with are what the mainstream in europe would consider RIGHT WING RADICALSi talked about it to some colleagues and it seems to me that the profession (handling big machines and doing a real job, not a made up one) just attracts a certain type of man.i also think that people in compareable positions, like men in charge of ships or heavy machinery, are mostly right wing radicals.so to all the guys in aviation: whats your experience with this topic?
>>2053654Airlines want multi engine time.
>>2053804It's challenging but that's the fun part, aviation wasn't part of my life before and now I don't know what I'd do without it.I'm curious how it works outside of latam.12 months in and I don't feel quite as ready, unless I gain confidence in OJT, but I want to know what I can improve and learn on my own right now.
>>205383612 months? I'm taking less than that including OJT. But I suppose it'll take another few months before I get a facility rating so it evens out.
>>2053831revoke all ATPs of shitlibs that are not "of good moral character" and cite 61.153(c) in the emergency revocation
>>2053831it's an aviation thing in general. pilots, atc, dispatch, etc.the only leftoids i think would be fas because they're usually women
>>2053831the sky is the domain of the huwite man
>>2051990The industry is utter shit rn and it's going to be for a long time. People take the CFI route for this reasonHonestly if it doesnt get any better im just gonna smuggle shit at this point.
>>2052015Dont stop. Just keep going. You wouldn't want to waste your money
>>2052709Anon is right here. Im on commercial and the checkride isnt a joke, but for the love of God go for ATP instead of ATC.
>>2053831Aviation is a very White job. Even criminals who fly contraband are almost always politically radical.
>>2053654If you're at 25 hours multi then unless you got a job flying multi's there is no way you would be able to pay for enough multi time that would matter in any way to an airline. 25 hours vs 100 hours is the same for hiring. If you haven't paid for your own ATP-CTP then that would be the best bet to make yourself hireable. As far as tailwheel vs seaplane goes, neither will make you pop out on paper, but the tailwheel is pretty fun.
Well, after getting out of the airforce and bouncing from a couple jobs I’m finishing up my certs for A&P. I got the material, the test prep, and even a job that has a corporate hanger so once I do have the credentials I can work there with some networking Problem is that it’s been some years so I’m refreshing on it but also that I only got approved to take the airframe written exam from the FAA. So have any of you gotten one followed by the other before? Was it a challenge?
>>2053897Sunk cost fallacy…
>>2053937NTA but I have ATP-CTP done but no one is hiring OTS. They are hiring the following:>A cadet who went from 250hours to 1500 hours in less than 6 months time building in their own airplane. >A cadet with 6 check ride failures. >A cadet time building in their own personal airplane. >A cadet who ran an airplane off the runway causing substantial damage that wasn't reported.
>>2053937Not true, I start class at a 121 next month OTS. I understand the frustration with cadets, but of the other people I know that are on with the same company, none of them are cadets. 1500 hours, 1200 dual given, 25 multi. ATP-CTP done. The jobs are out there if you go to career fairs and send emails.
>>2054101>>2054095
FA on this trip very noticeably has an interest in me. But I’m not going to do anything about it
Why isn’t she doing her security checks? We are going to miss MOGT..https://youtube.com/shorts/VYKLf8x4ZlQ?si=R4wMq-n1bNjH_3p1
>>2054135Good man
>>2054135Faggot
>>2054225What do you want him to do? Drag her into the tiny bathroom that probably stinks like shit?
>>2051983thoughts? tried making it in flyout but id faster make it out of wood than do anything with tech.. i am technologically impaired.
>>2054816I think you re-invented the ground-effect ship?
>>2054135>FA on this trip very noticeably has an interest in me. But I’m not going to do anything about itIts a shit test, that means there is a rumor circulating around your airline that you're gay. Why else would women suddenly be interested in you? Flight attendants are bored and petty so they like to play stupid mind games.
>>2054818little different.. much smaller and way longer wings, and instead of using a giant rear elevator, it uses canard to induce stall faster.. so instead of giving it a second drag surface, you give it giant wings for legally flying higher over the ocean (the laws are usually based on wingspan)i made a little styrofoam model and threw it close to ground, it works without big rear elevator, when i removed the canards it instantly did a backflip..(the idea is basically a flying kayak that can soar a bit higher than normally legally allowed, not a giant plane, or a true plane in that sense.)
>>2054845now I'm curious where (for the USA) in the FARs that getting airborne by ground effect only makes something not an aircraft.Apparently for a while (or maybe still?) the British CAA classed them as seaplanes while the EASA agreed with the FAA that they're not aircraft.
How late is too late to become a military pilot? I just turned 31 and the rule says you must enter UPT by your 33rd birthday. But I know there's a very long waiting list for UPT slots. Should I apply anyway? I have all my ratings and a few hundred hours.
>>2052688>>2052694current atc trainee at ZNY hereit's mostly the training that's stressful, knowing the airspace at first seems pretty straightforward but there's enough weird situations that come up that completely bend the rules of what you're supposed to do. Severe weather is the biggest thing and SWAP season really stresses everyone out. Normal ops days are really chill though, biggest problem we have is just low staffing and fucked up schedules. Certain areas are just dogshit at training and haven't certified any new CPCs in at least 3 years.
>>2054927ain't no time like the present, but you'll have to move fast. Bring alot of cash to bogidope and start your AFOQT/TBAS asap
>>2051983For those that do flights over the Atlantic and over Europe or North Africa at night or early in the morning (utc speaking)Do you have a list of frequencies to listen to on hf while bored?Maybe of some radio broadcast or some pirate radio o military frequencies
Give me the QRD for getting IFR Which ground schoolWhat books Thinking of just youtube and sheppard
>>2055625I can't speak to all that, but I advise my mentees that the only time Part 141 is almost always better than Part 61 is for an instrument rating. 40 hours instrument + 50 hours XC PIC (of which you'd have a minimum 5 from PPL). vs 141 requiring 35 hours flight training and 35 hours 141 ground school. Consider your options, and otherwise if doing Part 61, how to grind XC PIC and simulated instrument with another guy splitting time. 25 of the 40 instrument hours can be with a schmuck PPL, only 15 of the 40 hours must be with a CFII.
>work ramp for a regional airline in northern Canada >fleet was mainly Fairchild/swearingen Metro IIIs until recently >Metro has a pretty infamous reputation >has many unflattering nicknames >among them is the babykiller >recently jumpseated a few times on a Dash-8-100>two seperate former metro captains told me the story behind that name>2012>metro skids of end of runway>at the very back of the plane is a mother holding an infant in her arms>on impact the baby flies out of her arms>rockets through the air all the way down the aisle>baby impacts the cockpit with extreme velocity >explodes>both captains said the body had to be fished out from underneath the rudder pedals
>>2055699Sounds like bullshit unless you can dig up the accident report
>>2055786Not him, but his story is neither fake nor gay. You could have confirmed it easily with the info if you weren't a lazy sack of shit.>The 6-month old lap-held infant weighed 23.2 pounds and measured 75 cm. Although the mother had not been instructed on how to correctly hold her infant during takeoff and landing prior to the occurrence flight, she had been shown how to hold an infant on previous flights. As instructed previously, for approach and landing, she was holding her infant against her chest, with the infant facing aft. During the impact and crash sequence, the infant was expelled from her arms and was later found next to the captain's rudder pedals. The cause of death listed by the coroner was closed head injury with multiple injuries.
>>2055788Thanks for dodging the question cocksucker, what I’m sure you meant to say was “look up PAG993” Instead I dropped your reply into google to get an answer.>>>/r/eddit
@2055880>Be a lazy sack of shit>Call other people liars>Get proven wrong>Act like you did all the heavy lifting anywayslol. lmao even.
>>2055913you are have no metro time, post type ratings or seethe kid
@2055937Post pay stub, ESL turd.
>>2055939you just live on here all day? Imagine being a no life cfi on /n/ all day instant replying, you're a real shut in huh? you wanna see my pay, go onto APC and check the legacy rates. poast your type ratings or otherwise keep @ing me like a faggot
@2056105Post a picture of your hand, ESL.
When the fuck are we getting a good new single engine airplane with a modern piston engine instead of some ancient shit?
>>2056297never. five billion years from now when the sun runs out of fuel and engulfs the earth flight schools will still be operating the same fleet of clapped-out 1970s pipers and cessnas
>>2056304Well maybe at least they will eventually replace turbofan engines with some electric stuff and it will become so cheap that scaled down versions of it could be put into four seater single engine aircraft or something? That's just a cope, isn't it
Prople without jet time are scraping ACARS data now. Bizarre.https://acarsdrama.com/
another female FO gets a United CJO.... yet here I am, still doing the regional captain grind.
>>2056629I guess they can't have 4chanons as captains, it's a responsible position
>>2056629Based grinder. Your time will come my friend, but I'd recommend you avoid UA unless you want to be junior to cackling retards your whole career. Come to (my legacy) instead and be junior to me, a greasy fat fuck. I buy drinks for the FO on the layover too if that sweetens the pot.
I do fueling and stuff and this united shop has me come over and fill to 26.0 they basically want to max the wings and whatever with the middle. Around 8500 the right wing starts venting fuel. The MX guy was like hey it's leaking looks like something is loose. So I just wrapped up the fuel truck and left lol usually it's a big deal, overfilling a plane, but it was kind of funny not getting in trouble Cause it was a MX issue
>>2056756>Come to (my legacy) insteadAA is only taking military pilots and flows
No one has mentioned this, but OP pic is CI on a mail run for Chunghwa Post. Based Republic of China (Taiwan)
>>2056821I would never admit to working at the best of the big 3 (for white men), but regardless thats bullshit, plenty on non flow civilians are getting hired. The published numbers for 2025 so far, Jan 1 through Sept 3rd have, of the 64% of non flows hired, half are civilians. So update your app and get your bachelors.
>>2056629never be good at something you don't want to do
>>2057250rip ups ramp ratter
>>2057889Lol so there are a few more flights and I guess the package volume is up. I kind of wonder what UPS will do about maintenance. It looks like maintenance spends a lot of time in their trucks. It the untrained eye it looks like a lot of pencil whipping
>>2057918>>2057250>>2056813holy fuck this some prophetic posting my boy
>>2057919So that leak was on a united 737 and it was a MX test
>>2057920i'm retard
>>2055625> what books? PHAK, Instrument Flying Hanbook, Instrument Procedures Handbook, FAR/AIM, Aviation Weather Handbook>What ground schoolFlight Insight or whatever is cheapest. Just read the books and you'll be fine. Get gouge on what your examiner wants.
dayum
>>2057969flown both, boeing is better than french junk. The bus is designed around keeping third worlders from crashing, it climbs like shit and cruises low. If only Douglas still made jets like the safely designed MD11.
>>2057969Please kill yourself for posting that.
?https://fxtwitter.com/RedWave_Press/status/1985908974680510716
>>2058076WE GAANhttps://x.com/BNODesk/status/1985929623104794932holy shitlooks like a mix of american 191 and that one time a ups 747 burned down from batteries catching fire
>>2057969god damn shame that UPS plane didn't hit you
If I ident a station (e.g. VOR/ILS/DME), switch the active frequency to something else, then switch back to the previously identified station (without ever changing the frequency in the box) do I need to re-identify the station?
>>2059257I would think for a checkride yes. In practice, probably not. Not that it will take long for the nav to display the ID.
>>2052008My house.
Welp
>>2059278Ejecto jeto cus!
Àt the repair shop, this time taking fuel out. I'm waiting for ground power but MX can't get the GPU going
>>2059671
I haven't seen a plane with floats in awhile
>>2055788What race was the mother? She sounds Indian to me.
Guess the plane
>>2059995Atlas B744
>>2060021Emirates A380.
>>2060021Yep. The lav fill and drain was froze. You can dump a bucket down the toilet for flush water but that frozen dookie is stuck somewhere in-between the tank and the outside connection. Pray for the next guy but it's happened to everyone once>>2060031Those are way bigger lol but the pic posting sideways ruined it
>>2060033fuck dude, sorry to hear about that frostbit turd, better the next guy than you
76 in the fog
>>2060048
So there is this freighter diversion. The whole city's ems showed up. the company dispatch was calling me like this is completely fine I don't think this is going anywhere anytime soon.
>>2060122Hawaiian [Alaska] A330 P2F?
>>2060140yep, I had to go up inside to clean the galley/lav area and wow... not my pic but this is how they load the plane. just boxes on the floor with the carpet and bins still installed. what a fuckin pain in the ass anyways it was some mechanical problem for the diversion
Currently in the first semester of the 2nd year of a 3 year business degree at a top school in my country.Absolutely hate it.Should I bite the bullet and complete it before completing flight training or drop out and start flying asap?Recently got an inheritance of around 200k usd so I'm able to considering this switch
I just started instrument rating and am flying g1000 simulator. I found it to be difficult and awkward, and nothing like real plane. Normal?
>>2060202finish your degree. you arent supposed to "enjoy" your degree. do your 4 and fly in the summer time and weekends until you finish degree
>>2060284No simulator will feel exactly like the real plane, even the high end ones. Simulators are great for developing the skills and techniques required for instrument flying. You shouldn’t rely on feeling in instrument flying anyways, it’ll get you in trouble.
>>2060284Yes, however the point is to get you used to listening to your instruments instead of your body. It's kinda funny since you just spent all that time learning with your body what everything felt like as a PP and now you have to be careful how you use that because your body doesn't have enough information to tell you the whole truth for IFR.I really don't like the sim either but it's much cheaper than the real thing. Use it to get familiar with flows and workload expectations before you start doing it for real and spending way more per hour.
>*hops into your left seat*Realistically how do you handle this situation as CFI? One of my biggest fears is being forced to put my name on a niggers logbook
>>2060202FINISH that degree>top schoollol you have a golden networking ticket, take people on rides
>>2060288>>2060403Should follow up, I'm currently 25, will be graduating at 26 going on 27, and am currently lined up for a Deloitte program that will last 2 years starting September of next year. I can go far in finance, have very powerful contacts both in family and friends. But I don't want to get sucked into this and delay the time in which I start flying any further. But I can't help but feel stupid for passing up opportunities most people would kill for.
>>2060489Well the other option is get your certs and count them to an online aviation degree. You already have your general ed stuff done.
>>2060489whatever you do finish the degree. Its not like being a student pilot is any less tedious, you will just need to get used to getting through boring and painful material for whatever you do in life. For what you ought to do in life, no one can tell you that. If you arent cut out to work in an office you will eventually leave anyway. I did that for a while and it just wasnt temperamentally feasible. I decided whatever hard and long road of being a pilot was preferable to what I was doing. The clock is ticking, but you are still young. One of the guys at my school who just got cfi quit a 300k/year job and is in his late thirties because he couldnt stand corporate life anymore.
>>2060491>>2060492This is what I'm considering insteadhttps://www.center-air.com/the-integrated-pilot-education/>whatever you do finish the degreeI understand the benefit of the degree as a fallback, should I lose my class 1 medical, or whatever. But if I'm committed to flying what does not having a degree takeaway from my career? Except less time spent flying or working towards it. I don't doubt that there will be tedious time spent studying mundane shit, and I was able to do that for my current degree before realizing I really don't want to spend the rest of my life in the corporate world with the exact same people I go to school with
>>2060493You know I get it, I was in the same boat as you. Alot of the shit in college is just boring filler shit. Part 61 is different. Everything you learn is useful, keeps you alive. If the instructor is shit, you can swap them out. Your "homework" is completly up to you, according to your own ability and schedule. You can blaze through if you are really dedicated. Your final exam isnt based on the whims of a grade curve. You either meet standards or you dont.
>>2060493Thats a 141 school, discard everything in my last post. They will make you a square peg or shit you out.
>>2060496>They will make you a square peg or shit you out.I'm not American enough to understand what this means
>>2060495Exactly man, I don't know though it's a big decision to make. I would just hate to realize I've already committed too much to the corporate world, sticking through it and spending the rest of my life wishing I had been a pilot. You always hear stories of people making career changes late in life but honestly I would much rather avoid being that person, inspiring as they may be
>>2060497It means being a person getting forced into a mold. In america theres two different type of flight a schoolsPart 61 are self paced, you take indivual lessons with an instructor and an independant examiner will test you. The amount training hours depends on the individual.Part 141 are FAA regemented, high paced and must pass stage checks or flunk out.
>>2060498Thats what discovery flights are for, call up your nearest school. You dont have to put everything on pause
>>2060500>>2060501I'm finishing my degree and deciding later. I'm just stressing out over exams and looking for an exit. Would be a stupid decision to leave now
>>2060493Getting a bachelors degree is a hard requirement in aviation whether anyone likes it or not. It DOES act an a detriment if you don't have one. Don't listen to faggots saying you can survive without one, especially if youre already partways through it. I don't care if it's not a listed requirement for the majors, it is effectively required of applicants. It IS bullshit, it IS a bullshit requirement and ancestor worship. It doesn't matter, go get a bachelors and put it on your resume.
not all Part 141 schools are pilot mill, my way or the highway. It ended costing probably more than necessary, but me and my instructor basically treated our 141 syllabus as a 61 doing whatever we wanted and saw as fruitful. Yes, expensive, but good way to learn. Also our stage checks are not pass/fail.
>>2060549Appreciate it, anon. I'll stick it out and finish the degree. I'm already signed up for conscription in my country (Denmark), which I've been able to postpone because of uni, might see if I can even do a stint in the air force as an officer after I get my degree.
Mr. American Airlines Pilot, how do you feel about why your company is doing the worst out of the three major airlines? https://youtu.be/3_V6HJNDjDs?si=noZvfnsxqa4sysS_
>>2060569Yeah it's spot on. Bobby doesn't have a vision. That said, I live in domicile and AA is the best company for me due to that, as well and not being faggot tranny central like the other majors. So long as there are retirements and we keep widebodies, the comparative performance of the company doesn't really matter to a line pilot like me. Unless AA gets to Spirit levels of doom and gloom, I'll be here and direct deposit will arrive twice a month. If anything, Kirby will be the downfall of UA due to overextension, faggot worship, his knocking up of flight attendants (he did it at America West), or general shitty attitude. I'd look to big Ed at DL for sane realistic progress.
>>2060579>his knocking up of flight attendants (he did it at America West)the crossdressing faggot fucks flight attendants? desu I have higher regard for him now
>>2060618His entire life is trying to larp as a pilot, he went to the air force academy, failed out of UPT (pilot school) and then continues to seethe because he never made it as a pilot, so he got a management role at AWA, pissed everyone off and eventually made it to UAL
>>2060628how many airline pilots are using Adderall on a daily (or triply) basis do you think
>>2051990I just graduated A&P school and got my airframe license and literally nobody wants to hire me. I've resorted to going back to my old job in fucking retail. I'm hoping that when I get my powerplant rating then I can get a job but at this point all I'm used to is rejection and the cold shoulder.
>>2060569The pajeet fucked AA up more than bobby
>>2060640zero, adderall is an amphetamine and shows up on drug tests
I'm looking for the most interesting/challenging/beautiful GA airports in the US. What are some good options to fly into?
>>2060707If you've never flown in to airventure oshkosh it is pretty cool just to be in the airspace with that much stuff going on.
>>2060713>newfag with zero jet time>just go to oshkosh broYou're going to get him killed anon
>>2060777I have over 1000 hours and 200 hours jet time, just am recently in the position where I can take a plane more or less wherever I want for short trips. Also instrument rated, so I would like to hit interesting/unique instrument approaches, like the VOR/DME 15 at KMTN.
>>2060782>I have zero hours of SA-227 timeHOLY FUCK KYS. GO SUCK CHIP OFF ON REDDIT
>>2060783I have 10,000 SA-227 hours
>>2060784holy BASED
>>2060579>Devon May on December 3rd during Goldman Sachs Business interview>“On the widebody side, we have taken 10 or 11 787s so far. We have another 20 to take delivery of between now and the end of the decade. We have options for another 25 or 30 787s that would come in, in kind of the late 2020s, early 2030s if we chose to execute on those options.>On the narrowbody side, we're in great shape. On the XLRs, we have the ability to change the -- or sorry, on the neos. We have the ability to change that to the XLR variant if we want to continue to grow the long-haul capable fleet.”
>>2060791What are you trying to say? Nothing in the statement is surprising, it's all business as usual.
>>2060793>We have options for another 25 or 30 787Wide body growth outside of the current existing orders
>>2060777checked but it's not like I pointed him at the seabase. even that alzheimers pilot last year made it home
>>2060794Sure, though I'm hesitant about putting any mental eggs in the "Options" basket. More 787s is good, though we should really be diversifying, either with B777X or A330Neo orders. Our 737 fleet is covered as we only fly one size/seat config and the MAX 8 is being delivered regularly, but we really should be replacing our oldest A319 and A320 tails. They're very tired for pax jets, and more importantly, the 319 and 320 are quite similar in size and performance, and AA originally had zero A320s, they were inherited via merger. We need to get some 319 Neos to replace the old tails and possibly kill all A320s to simplify the seating options.The A350 cancellation has been talked about to death, so I'll leave it be. AA owns 777s and until recently operated A330ceos, so standing the fleet back up wouldn't be a challenge. I'd personally prefer the B778 and B779 fleets, but I have my doubts about it. Our B772s are quite old, and unless we order the 777X you'll likely see the 772 be retired within 10 years, and the remaining 773 fleet dwindle. I wouldn't be surprised if by 2040 we only had the B787 as our sole widebody. AA really doesn't value the income of the freight the 777 carries, and big bobby needs to get the X on order asap.
>>2060782>200 hours jet timeHow does it feel knowing that you will completely miss the largest hiring wave and seniority gains in aviation history?
>>2060812>They're very tired for pax jets, and more importantly, the 319 and 320 are quite similar in size and performance, and AA originally had zero A320s, they were inherited via merger. We need to get some 319 Neos to replace the old tails and possibly kill all A320s to simplify the seating options.AA has an order for 150 A320neos which start coming in 2026.
>>2060850The entire order is for A321neos which can be optioned as the XLR neos. None of the orders are for A319 or A320 lengths.
>>2052070It's pretty much that in most of the maintenance as well.What of it that's not outsourced through 3~10 layers of fuckery.I quit wrenching on aircraft about five years ago to work on farm equipment. Far more money, far less stress.
Hey bros I just found out about the aviation general. Hope shits going well for you people, I got my private recently and my goal is to go for red eye cargo. I was thinking fedex/ups or whatever but I prefer not to fly for Amazon. My discovery flight was in a Cessna 172 and it felt good. Anyway I still got alot of training to go through anyway before I can't start thinking about who I wanna work for but so far im having fun with training and I hope to be as best as a pilot I can be
>>2060941>can'tCan start thinking* sorry I get a little bit excited whenever I find something new and dont think before posting lol
>>2060644I cannot think of any place that would hire "half" an A&P..Get the rest of your ticket, then try again. Even then you'll probably end up signing off on "repairmen" work at some wheel mill or similar.Unless you REALLY love the work and are willing to sacrifice a lot to do it, working as an A&P (Or A&P/I-A) is no longer fun.
>>2060941>I was thinking fedex/upsI just started instrument too and cargo always sounded better to me, but I think fedex has been treating their pilots worse than they used to and UPS is hard to get hired at. I think fedex also no longer does mail for USPS. Going to random obscure places always sounded cooler to me than bahamas or kansas city
>>2061043>but I think fedex has been treating their pilots worse than they used to and UPS is hard to get hired at.Don't doubt ups being harder to get in. Shame if thats true for fedex but I'll keep a eye out for it when I get closer>Going to random obscure places always sounded cooler to me than bahamas or kansas cityAgreed. I like niche little towns that aren't really talked about and with minimal tourist attraction. I also like the design of airports but I probably won't be seeing much since im cargo and I report straight to the FBO instead of terminals from what I know
>>2060941>my goal is to go for red eye cargoI had the same stupid idea when I was starting out because I’m introverted and prefer to avoid people. Its a terrible job, redeyes absolutely suck. Enjoy training anon.
>>2061108>Its a terrible job, redeyes absolutely suck.Sorry to hear that. I was going for redeye for the same reason btw. What sucks about it if you dont mind me asking? Is it the actual work being done, adapting a new circadian rhythm, night as many places open overnight compared to the day (hair work, shopping, etc) or is it something else?>Enjoy training anon.Thank you its been a fun experience and I like the little small improvements I make everyday after flying
>>2061163Yes, yes and yes. Not sleeping normally takes years off your life. You don’t feel it when you’re young but it hits you much harder in your 30s-40s. There’s a reason Fedex and UPS guys look way older than they actually are. My suggestion is to just go to a normal 121 pax carrier, as we are all autistic spergs anyway, you will fit in just fine.
>>2061213>121 paxAlright ill take your word for it and look more into that stuff. I think I had like 2 other instructors and classmates tell me to ditch the idea of night flights and I probably should cave in to that advice lol
who cares if you die early? we're flying planes here. its cooler to fly a big boy to china and saudi arabia than carry mid-stacies to rome
>>2060959You just gotta slug it out til IA then you can go into business for yourself. It’s not really any different than the hours grind to ATP mins. An A&P without IA is worth like $27/hr market-depending.
>>2061231If that’s your attitude then go fly dusters, floats or rotors. Ag even pays better than jets.
>>2061241>Ag even pays better than jets.In the 2025 airline pilot central salary thread guys are making 600k. Are there any Ag jobs making half that?
>>2061219You have plenty of time to figure it out anon. For now, just focus on receiving quality training and enjoy your time farting around in a 172. Study hard and don’t fuck up. It may not seem like it now but one day you’ll miss being a carefree GA pilot. >>2061231I don’t want to die early, I have three white children that need a father in good condition. One white child costs as much as 2.5 mexican children in terms of time and money.
>>2061259Easily, a corn run in a turbine or helicopter takes home between $150k-200k on those eight weeks alone. and they make it way sooner in their careers without having to sit through the CFI grind, then being metered at a regional, then languishing as a low seniority FO only to have to languish again as a low seniority left-seater.The downsides are that most people cannot handle the flying, its dangerous even for those who can handle it and it’s gatekept ruthlessly. There are probably more Navy SEALs on active duty in the Navy than there are active ag pilots in America.
>>2061303Plus all the constant exposure to goyslop chemicals
>>2061316The entire premise of flying ag was in response to somebody who was full YOLO on the shitty lifestyle of 121 cargo. There’s a reason ag pays so well.
>>2061303>a corn run in a turbinethey use turbines for crop dusting?
>>2061363>they use turbines for crop dusting?yes?
>>2061363An 802 should require a type rating but the FAA didn’t want to deal with that and granted an exemption.
>>2061363Yes, they run 1600HP turbines to carry all the weight they run in a crop duster.
okay truthfully I dont want to die early and I dont want to fly a cropduster. I just want money and time off
>>2061385>I just want money and time off>andlol lel lmfao
>>2061385>dont want to fly a cropdusterLess competition for me then. It's a dying trade anyways thanks to drones.
>>2061303Crop dusting in a helicopter had not occurred to me. I guess it should have because my helicopter school's instructors do some rice field pollinating during the summer. For some reason that doesn't seem to pay as well.
>>2061390>dronesIm gonna guess taking the UVA job also means reduced pay compared to normal cropdusting huh?
>>2061396I would assume so since getting the drone license is much easier.
>>2061373there's no way that can be>MTOW 16kwell I learned something new today holy shit. And I thought I knew something about flying.
are there any current or former CFI here that can describe what it is like being one, how your mindset changes after no longer being "in training" (I know there is still much more training but you know what I mean), if there is any time for life outside of work, if you can even still go to the gym and have friends and stuff.
>>2061444>how your mindset changes after no longer being "in training"you just have to get used to it. You won't know what you're doing for your first 100 hours given. But after a while, you kind of just get the hang of it.>if there is any time for life outside of workif you are trying to get your hours quickly, then absolutely not. >if you can even still go to the gym and have friends and stuff.same answer as above
>>2061444First month feels like you're failing a check ride every day if you're not confident in your knowledge, students hit you with the same vague response most DPEs do so there's no reinforcement like there was in training.
>>>/sp/152549816Is it safe to leave that much crap on top of the gauges? I wouldn't drive a car with that much stuff on top of the dashboard.
>>2061554no
>>2061570You’re just a chaperone.
>>2061663and youre just a wannabe
Jet time?
>>2061444[spoiler]you’re still in training after you get your CFI[/spoiler]The real number is 1500 not whatever 250-300 it takes for you to get your CFI. As said, you’re a chaperone. Make sure the student doesn’t get themselves killed.There’s plenty of free time when the weather sucks. Nice days you will want to be in the air.
>>2061714The astounding reading comprehension abilities of the boomer brain. There are days I'm thankful for the fact that I was born in the global-microplastics era and not the global-lead-poisoning one.
