Been riding on pirelli p zero race tlr 4s this summer and I'm liking them a lot. Toobless, of course.

Got to try some vittoria tour de france meme tires a couple weeks ago, those were nice too. All serious high end all-rounder road tires are pretty much the same to be honest. I mean yeah there's differences between stuff like a gatorskin vs a turbo cotton but I mean within the generalist category it's all pretty good, a lot of the sperging is just suggestible people reading marketing fluff, modern tires are so nice, believe me I know, I remember constantly fixing flats on those 120psi puncture magnets back in the day

>>2052140
GP 5000 S TR on my roadbikes in 30mm and tubeless.
Maxxis Dissector and stuff like that on my trail and downhill rig. Tubeless of course.
Race kangs on my 26in shitty grocery getter with tubes

I wish Conti would make a lightweight Doublefighter.

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for me it's chink tpus

Put P Zero Road 32-622 with Aerothan TPU tubes on my bike and I am pleasantly suprised. This setup is lighter than eg Conti GP5000s tubeless without all the tubeless hassle and ride feel is great.
Almost 1k so far, done a bike race and some bike packing, no issues. No flats even on some unplanned gravel paths.
TPU tubes mog the shit out of tubeless setups.

>>2052159
will try them

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Currently using a pair of 29x1.95" slicks.

I want to build a new bike, but with 27.5" x 2.3" slicks, if it's even possible to find such a thing in Aliexpress.

What I actually desire are 24 x 3" but it seems almost impossible to find a combination of forks/frame/rims/tires that would be adequate.

I don't want a fat bike. I want something that has wider tires than what is available for most regular bikes, but thinner than fat bikes, which look horrible.

>>2052159
I have a bunch of never-used TPU inner tubes. They're just sitting in a drawer until I get some tetrahydrofuran, which is the only solvent that can properly weld them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGqoF6mARpg

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>>2052170
i ran these as well but they didn't hold pressure nearly as well, and the included patch didn't seal a puncture

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>>2052159
I did something very wrong, didn't I? It held 60 psi for a night and then went poof before I got to ride it in the morning. There's a crease of thin material going almost all the way around from these bulges.

>>2052159
yeah, they're great

>>2052180
if you have kevlar or other super tight bead, your levers can fuck tpus up on installation. I had a lot of problems with that until I realized what was going on, because my first experience with tpu was also my first kevlar bead. switching to Pedros levers made those problems go away.

>>2052171
what you have seems plenty fat.
tell me about that front sus, does it actually do anything?

Just thought I'd give an update, it's me from the last thread, I bought some gator skins for my commuter because I was fed up with punctures.

Anyway, still no punctures, it's been months or maybe longer, I can't remember exactly when I bought them, but they get me to and from work, about 16 miles a day through glass strewn streets and thorny canal paths, and they still didn't let me down.

not the fastest, not the comfiest, certainly not the lightest and they aren't as stylish as my michelins, but they do what they say they do.

still running GP5ks with tpu in 28mm on my fast bike and loving it. would go 30 but no clearance on the brake bridge.
utility bike still doing Panaracer Pasela PT s in 630 x 32 (27" x 1¼”) with butyl tubes. no complaints, they're nice.

>>2052232
It's not mine, it's my fatspo

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>>2052238
Also this

>have used gatorskins for years because of commuting, installed new ones back in april after 4k miles on the old pair, they were a great price only like $60 for a pair
>pass 1,000 miles with no flats
>for some reason it decides to rain, in august, for the first time since spring
>within a few miles of riding, i get a flat on my rear tire and pull out a small sliver of metal that got into the tire
>rotate tires, the rear one seems to be more beat up that normal with small deep holes and even a few long ones, where i used rubber cement and super glue to try to seal them back up

im a little concerned, because usually like i mentioned i get around 4k miles in a few years before needing to change them. i wonder if its just a coincidence that all summer dry riding never had any flats, then literally the first day of rain, within a few miles this metal got in there.

>>2052248
Wet and thus lubed up metal puncure more easily

>>2052248
completely normal, rain is overall just a huge PITA from a bike maintenance perspective, why do you think so many people don't like riding in the rain? if it was just about getting wet I'd prefer rain rides but it ends up taking so much time and money you eventually start to recoil at the thought of more bullshit

>>2052248

if you absolutely must ride in the rain and have no other choice the best thing to do in the wet is lock your brakes up and bunny hop there and baxk. If possible attach some kind of grippy protection to the bottom of your tyres, I use sneaker soles held on with cable ties, this also gives a better bounce and makes the bunnyhops more efficient.

>>2052293
>>2052295
>>2052312
this never has happened to me before, i dont think ive ever gotten a flat riding in the rain before (like i said, always ride gatorskins, i know everyone here hates them, but for me the grip has been fine, and the puncture resistance and long lasting tire is worth the sacrifices). this was just such a weird occurrence, going a thousand miles dry no problem, then the first rain in months, literally 2 miles in and i get a flat. and what was even weirder is that a few minutes before leaving, i put some more air into the tires too to top it to 110 psi.

i figure maybe it was one of those situations where it was a shoulder bike lane, but a wide one (so it wasnt like i was crushed into a 3 inch bike lane in a gutter against a hillside or something), and maybe with the rain, some crap got washed into it and thats how i ran over it

on sunday a few days ago i rode this same path again, dry weather, and had no issues. probably just a fluke.

>>2052326
there was a point back in my cyclo commute days when I got deep slashes from glass or debris on 3 rain rides in a row and I ragequit the rain rides. maybe it was bad luck but I know now that rain flats are a known phenomenon. I took the train on rain days after that.

back in those days I was on 700x25 so hey maybe things have changed now that I'm on bigger fatter tires with latex inside but if I can avoid rain I will. I've been caught out in storms a number of time and it's always a guilty pleasure, and I've never had a rain flat since, but it's so ingrained now that I will never start a ride anymore knowing I'm going to experience significant rainfall.

>>2052343
coincidentally i ride on 700x25cs as well

What's a good sealant brand when setting up for tubeless?

>>2052454
I use orange seal because it's the most readily available so when I need to top up I don't have to purge the whole tire

Basically it's all pretty good except there's one israeli brand which I won't use. I'm sure they're nice people and not directly, personally responsible for any genocidal activities by their government, but why risk it

can confirm that there is a direct correlation with rain and puncture frequency

living as i do in the uk i got plenty of data and real life experience to draw upon, and after more than 12 years of almost dailt cycling, to and from school, commuting and pleasure riding, i never had a puncture on a dry day, but i had scores of them in wet conditions.

that's just a fact

Gatorskins, 28 front 32 rear for the shit roads here. No complaints although ignorance is bliss. Also, they last forever... I think I'm at 5 years now, minimum of 30km per day and the wear indicators still look like new. Gonna try something else when the time comes though.

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>>2052140
I'm bored so I'm gonna sperg, first with 700c roadie rubber
>gp5k (25)
weirdly soft sidewalls, sketchy traction esp in wet, poor build quality
>gp5k s tr (25)
solves all of my problems with gp5k
>pirelli p zero race tlr (28, 32)
good shit, haven't ridden these as much as I would like yet
>veloflex anything
so fucking fast and comfy for skinny tires. puncture resistance isn't half bad for what they are
>specialized tarbo cotton ("25"s that are really 23)
good but prone to tread separation because vittoria can't into gluing their open tubulars properly
>vittoria open corsa evo (23, 25)
not quite as good as the tarbo cotton, same problem with tread separation
>vittoria zaffiro (28)
more like slowfiro lol. good training tires tho. good puncture resistance and traction
>gravelkangz (28 slick)
slow as fuck, somehow gets absolutely fucked by the flinty shit we have everywhere
>pasela pt (25, 28, 32)
kinda okay at everything, used to be the best value in tires but at $50 per, nope, not when there are tires that do everything better
>gatormemes (28)
I know two people who have gotten busted collarbones from them losing traction in the wet. Had them on one bike and would constantly spin the rear when riding in the wet. fuckem
(cont.)

cont. with dirt rubbers
>simworks homage (26 x 1.95)
love em
>schwalbe kojak folding (26 x I forget)
slow as fuck, no wet traction at all, no puncture protection
>panaracer fire pro xc (26 x 2.1)
great traction on all kinds of durt but very slow
>schwalbe g-one bite (40c)
good for hardpack dry gravel, trash for loose, dangerously bad on wet dirt. slow
>rene herse steliacoomer extralite (38c)
fast, comfy, great traction in all conditions, barely more puncture resistance than a butyl tube
>schwalbe rocket ron + thunder burt (29 x 2.1)
fast as fuck, great monstercross or xtra-wide gravel tire
>schwalbe magic mary (29 x 2.4)
wonderful all-rounders
>maxxis ardent exo tr (29 x 2.4)
meh all-rounders

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I use Schwalbe Durano (25) on my Summer commuting road bike. On my Winter commuter I use Schwalbe Marathon Surpreme, although I can't recommend them.
On my gravel bikepacking bike, which I ride the most distance on, I ride Rene Herse Hatcher Pass (48) picrel

>>2052552
are you using the extralights?

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>>2052159
Yeah, they’re good

>>2052454
The new silca stuff lasts way longer before drying out than anything else I’ve tried, it lasted 5 months in the hot, dry Vegas heat before needing a refill with only 2 oz of sealant

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Thoughts?

https://www.tannus.co.uk/pages/tannus-armour-installation

>>2052617
I bet it's squishy. I had solid tough "foam" tire once and it felt like I was always riding through mud

>>2052140
expensive tires are a scam. cheap ones can take any weather conditions but the expensive high end contis developed cracks just from being stored outside in the winter. but got to give them that despite the grim looks they have not exploded yet and are perfectly usable

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>>2049171
So, it happened AGAIN. I can blame the tarmac, I can blame Panaracer, I can blame my riding style, I can blame my non-existing puncture protection, I can blame the dogshit rubber, I can blame the LBS, I can praise inner tube's effort but the truth is it's simply not enough. Protection, determination, performance in wet or dry, UV resistance you name it, it all stinks.

Don't get me wrong, I still have full faith in the tire and the tube, but MASSIVE reinforcements are desperately needed right fucking now. Otherwise I'm not very optimistic about the next season, or stopping punctures getting #3 for that matter. Not riding like this. What do you think, /btg/?
Pic very much related.

>>2052676
>stored outside in the winter
why would you do that

>>2052744
Tyres are a consumable.
They are designed to have a limited life, whether you wear them out through riding or not.

Tyre companies like all businesses need you coming back for replacements ASAP.

>>2052754
well thats where i use it and carrying it in and out all the time is not so fun. never seen anything like that happen before

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Guess I'm getting new tires

>>2052744
that tire is dry-rotted to fuck and back. paselas aren't that good to begin with and that particular tire is fucked
>>2053228
that sucks, did some asshole fuck it with a knife?

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Looking at belt drive / internal hub bikes atm. The Cube Hyde Pro has..
>Shimano Nexus hub
>Alu frame
>Shimano Alfine shifters and disc brakes
>carbon fork
There is an more expensive version that comes with lights, a rack, and mudguards etc. There is also the old version still available to buy, where I think the only difference is that it does not have a carbon fork, but it's significantly cheaper.
Question: Are there any red flags with these components?

>>2053332
Don't get a Cube, Canyon, or a Factor.

>>2053332
Big Apple are decent, but you could always do better. Especially so if you decided not to buy a whole new bike just for the tyres.

>>2053357
Why is that?
>>2053363
What? I don't currently have a bike

>>2053328
>paselas aren't that good to begin with
I've been running them for 5 years or so now. they seem fine. good, even.

>>2053364
They all have terrible customer service, and spotty reputations for quality control.

>>2053332
sir, this is the tire thread

>>2053373
As a canyon owner I love to bash canyon because they're utterly soulless bikes, but one of the reasons these consumer direct bikes get such a dedicated crowd of haters is that you kind of have to become your own bike shop so whatever obnoxious shit your local specialized dealer puts up with, is on you as a customer of canyon etc.

>>2053373
What to get instead? I'm almost closing on a Cube Attain C:62 for €1699

>>2053375
Upon further inspection, I think you're right

>>2053384
have you ridden it?
a c6001 belt bike is like riding through molasses