We need walkable cities
Then go build one and stop whining
We need cycleable cities.Walking is major PITA.
We need segregation... maximal segregation in every conceivable way. Racial, class, religious, even preferred mode of transportation. I envision a world where OP can walk in damp underground tunnels with no lighting, with his descendants evolving to no longer need eyes or hair. Their skin can even be translucent and they can absorb moisture from the air itself. Perhaps these tunnels could double as waste management for the surface dwellers.
shit like this should be illegal
Every city is walkable if you ain’t a bitch. Leave your front door and just keep walking.
>>2052681we need to put every commieblock advocate in prison where they'll find the living conditions they advocate and long for
>>2052681You're not a cyclist, you're a schizo that couldn't get his drivers license on medical grounds and so you spend your days spamming threads on here instead of going outside.
>>2052711Being able to walk to the store to buy a sandwich without having to cross 10 lanes of speeding SUVs and smoking lifted trucks is not advocating for commieblocks or ghettos or whatever the narrative is. It's prioritizing local residents instead of oversized vehicles from 20 miles away that clog up the streets and cause all the noise/smog.
>>2052727Check the narrative in the OP instead of constructing a non-existent boogeyman scenario as a cover next time, slimy cunt.
>>2052727Most suburbs would be walkable if zoning allowed mixed useIt's ironic HOA-chuds oppose that because they think it would bring more traffic to the neighborhood and would rather drive to walmaert
>>2052728>Check the narrative in the OP insteadWhat narrative? That some brain rotted retard who can't communicate with words makes the same retarded thread based on half-ideas copy pasted off twitter is spamming the same tired and completely pointless thread yet again?
What if we just abolish all zoning laws and planning departments
>>2052727Whats stopping a Subway from being built near you ?
>>2052738>it's ironic that chuds oppose the things they do not want and do things their way no matter how much yuppies shill against it
>>2052748>no you can't have a local mom and pop you have to support mega corporations
>>2052747zoning laws
>>2052748reading comprehension
lol was going to post a rip against even the fucktard idea of walkable cities but i see others have it handled. carry on....
>>2052681>motorism is shityes. this. >we need citiesOP is a fag again
What the hell does all of this mean.
>>2052697Agreed, we should limit the use of German on digital maps.
>>2052681Those are both shit, walkable cities need to be human scaled and filled with beautiful traditional architecture that isn't an eyesore
>>2052727>prioritizing local residentsEvery time a bike lane is considered for a street or in some cases removed, the local residents are some of the biggest advocates against it
>>2052891NIMBY boomers are not and will never be people
>>2052892>t. non-local resident
>>2052893
>>2052892So "local residents except the people I dislike"
>>2052896>people
>>2052890>anon confuses with developer-built shopping mall with housing as "walkable city"Also, for those wondering this is "Cayala" in Guatamala (within Guatamala City, the actual city). Cars are allowed on the streets (the housing section has dirt roads, lol) but there's not many since cars per capita is Guatamala is less than what a quarter of what America has because Guatamala is poor.
>>2052897Not an answer. Besides, at these meetings, the screechy minority is the cyclists, who can't read the room and start screaming about "dead kids" or whatever they can get at. They tend to do poorly because they can't argue and insulting people doesn't work IRL.
>>2052884>when Germans start drawing accurate maps of your country
>>2052899I specifically chose Cayala because it is a new development that people can look to and emulate in terms of architecture and aesthetic, because most "new urbanist" development is made up of modernist glass and steel slop that most people hate looking at
>>2052727every mid size and above city in the world has this. just move out of your parent’s house in the suburbs and live in those neighborhoods.
>>2052931You don’t even need to get to mid sized city. Every small city originally built before 1920 has this. It’s called “living in downtown” Downtown Altoona PA, 95% white, just an example. The entire east of the Mississippi is covered in perfectly walkable cities if you only move downtown.
>>2052923Cayala still looks and feels uncanny
>>2052697dig a tunnel if you're too much of a pussy to cross the road
>>2052697Two issues>try picking where someone might actually go instead of two arbitrary points on a map>they're building a bridge there anyway so your point is moot
>>2052993(((Modern))) buildings look uncanny
Seething poor thread lol
>>2052727what does that have to do with commieblocks
>>2052698Very Walkable Sir
>>2053103Imagine having to drive 1 hr and 30 mins everyday just to get to and from work. This post was made by the 5 mile commuter gang
>>2053474>>2053473>1 hr and 30 mins everyday just to get to and from work.Absolutely deranged urbanist misinformation. According to the 2023 U.S. Census Bureau, average commute times in the United States was around 27 minutesThis is roughly the same as it is in Germany, which is also around 30 minutes And also the UK, which was also estimated to be around 27 minutes, same as the USWhat I find the most curios though, is that in nearly every single survey, commute by train always took significantly longer than commuting by bike, car, and walking, as being almost exclusively use rail for long distance. This is why average commute times in Japan is estimated to be around 50 minutes, significantly higher than the US and Europe, because their work culture demands longer commuting distances and they are a society heavily reliant on rail transport, and even so-called "high speed rail" is often subject to delays. I've said it before and I'll say this again, armchair urbanists on the internet are absolute cancer, you people give /pol/tards a run for their money regarding how much bullshit you can just blindly regurgitate without an ounce of critical thought.
>>2053318Not wanting to sit in a cage makes you subhuman? Perhaps you should explain and make a proper argument instead of rage baiting the thread. If not, consider the following:>>>/pol/>>>/o/>>>/b/
>>2053478You're not a "pedestrian" you're not a "cyclist" you don't even have a job so you have no horse in this race regarding commuting time or distance because you have nowhere to be. You're a schizo that can't get a drivers license because you couldn't pass a medical background check let along a written driving test and now you spend your miserable life spamming AI-slop on this fucking board.
>>2053474Enjoy getting stabbed on the cattle cart, cuck.
>>2053478Explain to me how a car is a "cage" but a bus/train isn't? A car you can pull over and step out any time you want, a bus/train you have to wait until the next stop. And in a car you don't have to share your "cage" with antisocial bums who blast "music", hassle you for money, stab you in the neck for no reason, defecate on floors, jerk off in front of you...Yeah, I'm thinking my "rage cage" is superior to the bum box.
>>2053507imagine living in an uncivilized country like America
>>2053477>Absolutely deranged urbanist misinformation.Wojak Face>2023 U.S. Census Bureau, average commute times in the United States was around 27 minutes In reality if the average commute is 27 to 30 minutes it means that your distance is around 20+ miles. During "rush" hour your 27 minute commute turns into 2 hours. You can thank the <5 mile commuter gang not giving you much stupider averages. > commute by train always took significantly longer than commuting by bike, car, and walking, as being almost exclusively use rail for long distance. >He conveniently left out city busesIt sounds like someone is a Bus "Rapid" Transit shill>walking No one is walking 20 miles to work except for absolute psychopaths, people who walk to work travel much less miles than all other mode shares. The only scenario where walking beats taking the train is as if the commute is less than 15 minutes and the train station stops are too far away from both the departure location and the destination in terms of walking distance and are parallel to each other. >bike Same principle as walking but higher speed allows you to travel a bit farther on bike. And again you would be limited by human abilities with stamina(i.e. how long you can pedal). Also most amerimongrel cities are straight up hazardous to bike in, due to lack of proper civic engineering design. Also with walking and biking you would show up to work sweaty af on a hot day. >car ofc a car is the fastest method, due to not relying on human power, but it always ends up with the owner to have to travel greater distances due to demand and supply of jobs. The speed of the car is always negated due to the asynchronous nature of automobile traffic, and streets are not built with massive scalability in mind. On top of that when you have a bunch of low IQs driving in vehicles they don't understand you will nature end up with more vehicle collisions.
>>2053548>train The biggest bottle neck of train transit is frequency. example your old and illiterate grandparent needs to catch a service that due to lack of funding only operates every 30 minutes.Also due to a lack of funding midnight service can be absolute dogshit, skewing the averages because of 5 hour detours to get to work. Instead of referring to live tracking and schedules, grandma shows up to the station 25 minutes before the train is supposed to arrive skewing the train averages. Also some transit agencies are so stupid they can't cobble together proper information on Google maps, making transit journeys longer than they have to be. Going back to bikes, sure they may be faster than a bus, at a certain point, but with enough distance traveled the bus ends up being faster than biking. A true transit service with grade separation, and proper frequencies (anything less than 3 minutes is a crime) may be slightly slower than a car in light traffic, especially considering things like last mile logistics, but on average it's less likely to be delayed by a significant amount than a car (given that the operating agency is competent).Also if that study includes shit like people movers and street cars like the LA Metro's E Line it's a failed study. But walking is healthy and transit usage naturally will require walksNow the Bus system should be shit on if it has no ROW and double boarding, then it just means the transit agency/municipality is doing the bare minimum for transit.
>>2053477In the end, nothing you said disproved my point about 5+ mile commutes being cancer, and instead proved my point. I must thank you for your free research on my behalf
>>2053488Enjoy getting steered off the road by an absolute road raging highway negri odal driver, cage troll.
>>2053507The difference is when you are stuck in 2 hour long traffic, the next stop isn't too far away and you have the freedom to go to the bathroom. Have fun doing that while stuck in LA tier gridlock traffic on a highway. You are a cage troll because you a stuck to the road, whilst transit users have a mode that is actually helpful to people (i.e. pedestrians)
>>2053552In a bus/train/tram/people mover you are free to stand, sit, move around a bit. In a car you can only stay seated, and if you are the driver you are stuck in the drivers seat
>>2053553Also on a train you can just cross the vestibule into a different car to escape a stinky situation.
>>2053551Seethe more poorfag, you will get knifed by a baboon on your cattle cart.
>>2053552Lmfao yeah enjoy the pissed and shit over public restroom, don't forget to ask the resident junky for permission first, poorfag.
>>2053580Seethe more cage troll, you will have a life changing paralyzing car accident
>>2053584Cope seethe poor cuck you will get stabbed in the neck by a nigger
>>2053552>LA tier gridlock traffic on a highwayThis never actually happens outside of overpopulated shitholes. >During "rush" hour your 27 minute commute turns into 2 hours.The urbanigger shill doesn't know how averages work, what a surprise!
>>2053581Enjoy pissing and crapping yourself in your car waiting for all the morons in front of you to squeeze on the closed down lanes due to a car accident/constructionAlso imagine using gas station/park bathrooms instead of private institutions
>>2053586>This never actually happens outside of overpopulated shitholes.Aka all major US cities built with giga suburban sprawl making public transport impossible to use, or serve the average populace>doesn't know how averages work, what a surprise!Averages vs real life scenarios are very different>>2053585Stay mad Amerispic
>>2053586Also I do understand the averages, I understand that a good chunk of fhe people surveyed dont travel 40+ miles a day from work which lowers the averages
>>2053587>seething poor wagecuck makes up cope fantasy Enjoy having delays and cancellations just to get shoved into one cattle car with the smelly browns that will rob and stab you.
>>2053588Seethe yuromudslime
>>2053593Enjoy highway closures and stopping at 100 red lights because some pavement apes fucked up someone on a highway
>>2053595Enjoy getting enrichment on the cattle cart that you cannot even step out off because the last cattle cart is stuck poorfag cuck
>>2053596Enjoy getting carjacked by a pack of ferals while you are stuck in gridlock Cage troll
>>2053598Enjoy getting bled out by a random brown ape chimp out because you can't leave the cart poorfag cuck
>>2053599Enjoy bleeding out while you are stuck in your car that got crumpled in a car accident
>>2053600Enjoy having browns laugh at your bleeding corpse after another brown chomped out on you seething poor
>>2053604Enjoy having browns laugh at your face as they steal your car right in front of you from your driveway you assmad cage troll
Enjoy shitting up the thread and board with your dogshit posts, both of you.
>>2053606It's not my fault that my post btfo the cagies so bad thet resort to insulting me like some marxist/leninist commie troons
>>2053588>Aka all major US cities built with giga suburban sprawl making public transport impossible to useAny of them has average commute time at least twice as short as your ex-communist shithole. You're literally nigger cattle barking at an infinitely superior mode of transportation that you're too subhuman to use.>Averages vs real life scenariosSo you don't just fail to understand averages but also make up shit to ignore real life too.
>>2053606Can't shit up a cesspit that is an urbanist shill thread.
>>2053608It's your fault you're too mentally ill to own a car and have to be caged in a nigger bus.
>>2053605Enjoy getting beaten to a pulp at the bus stop seething poor
>>2053616You fail to understand variables too but I would't expect an Amerigger to have the ability to understand Mathematics
>>2053552>2 hour long trafficSeems like if mass transit was the "obvious" answer absolute horseshit scenarios wouldn't be necessary
I don't think there is any city in the world where public transit reaches 50% of commuters
>>2053635Because of sprawl caused by cage trolls. It's all cage troll's fault. If you do,n't have a transit line less than 15 minutes away you should rope
>>2053618>It's your fault you're too mentally ill to own a carProjection. Majority of Ameriggers drive with a suspended liscense due to mental retardation and senility
>>2053634It is. The reason why it's not the obvious answer is because American cities are made up of 90% uncontrolled and unwrangled suburban single use zone growth
>>2053637Seething poor lmfao you will be enriched by browns in 15 minutes
They're just farming (You)s at this point.
>>2053638>t. too poor and retarded to even obtain a license LolLmao
>>2053642I choose not to drive because I recognize the jewry involved with the car industry. Enjoy slaving your life away just to pay back the auto industry mafia haha fucktarded goylem
>>2053643>I choose Kek thanks for admitting that you're too poor and stupid to enjoy the superior mode of transportation. Cope more, cuck.
>>2053644The metro is the superior form of transformation. Cope more car slave
>>2053645The privately owned automobile is the superior form of transportation. Cope more seething poor
>>2053645superior at getting stabbed by feral nigsno wonder trannies like (you) are drawn to it, no balls to 41% yourself
>>2053630Notice whenever the cage troll is actually refuted he goes silent
>>2053658"muh variables" isn't a refutation, statistically illiterate shitskin
>>2053637Public transport share of commuters does not even come close to 50% in the model cities people talk about like Amsterdam or Copenhagen
I am gonna be honest, this console war faggotry of mode share is actually cancer. Let's just agree that 99% American transit is shit, car's are the fastest form of transit, and walking and biking can be viable for short distance commutes with actual pedestrian infrastructure
>>2053666A road ragers penis extension
i live in the US can't take public transit or I will get murdered
>>2053668Sucks to live in Detoilet/Baltistan/Chicongo
>>2053668I live in the US and I can't take public transit because the closest line to me only runs every two hours, during peak commute hours (9am and 5pm)
>>2053671I live in the US and the TDS (Transit Derangement Syndrome) is so bad that not even your own Transit Agency wants you to use their services
>>2053639Apartments exist literally everywhere in the suburbs of every American city and I'm sick of pretending they're not
>>2053664In these two cases, it's because of bikes and pedestrians because they're not model cities for public transit, they're model cities for multi-modal transport.Paris would be a more relevent case to look at I guess. Or London. Both a much more oriented towards the use of their metro, bus or tram networks.
>>2053667You should learn, seething poor, this may save your worthless life from a chimpout one day.
>>2053668You think it's different in western Europe?
>>2053682>He doesn't live in Singapore where the poor and unruly are beaten with sticks
>>2053681The Lord is more powerful than any weapon forged by mortals
>>2053679>In these two cases, it's because of bikes and pedestriansNo. Car traffic is over 50% for both cities. Amsterdam especially has a lot of commuters from the neighboring cities like Almere. There is a giant highway. Don't get your information from YouTube videos that focus on the small historical town and don't show you the A10 highway just right outside that
>>2053647>no ballsHe has the balls to confront them and not get stabbed.
>>2052681whatever test
>>2053716I can confirm I've had rides where a crackhead was looking for any excuse to pounce, like a feral animal triggered by the slightest movement
>>2052935the problem with me moving there is im a manchild who lives with my parents and posts on r/fuckcars all day instead of improving my career prospects, so I cant afford to move to the city center. if my dad wasn't such a piece of shit who wanted me to get a job and move out i would live in a new your sitcom, have friends and a girlfriend.
>>2053474I did 3.5 hours a day for some years because I didn't want to move and really wanted the job. It's managable but annoying.
