https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP_bUVc7o7A> As a train enthusiast, none of these are brightlines fault. The only reason they have so many deaths are because of people doing stupid things around the tracks like trying to beat the train, or walking on the tracks. Do you autists not realize how sociopathic this makes you look?The train has killed over 180 people since 2017.It's killing a person EVERY THIRTEEN DAYS.
>getting outsmarted by a train
Bro the train's movement is very predictable. If it really is a trouble to you to figure out where the train is going then it's darwin pulling you out of the pool. Stop splatting yourself against trains it disrupts the line.
>>2058516>why didn't the train swerve to avoid
>>2058516I am glad so see no vastly wasteful electrification. Seems when there isn't a big pot of money to waste having a train hauled in the manner of all other vehicles from ship to economical familiy saloon is the optimal method of propelling a train too.
>>2058516Our trains are not only fast, they're eugenic. The Germans of the 3rd Reich could never envision this level of efficiency. We don't even need to take the boomers to the camps, we get them on the way.It's removing a dipshit every 13 days.The only question is, how do we bring down that number? (The number of days, that is.)
>>2058516Their argument is literally>My relative did something real stupid
it's a truck. smart people do not drive or own trucks. therefore, this is just taking out the trash.also isn't brightline in florida? by definition if someone dies in florida it's taking out the trash.
Can anyone explain to me how this even happens? It astonishes me that people in red states are even alive, perhaps you need to pray harder you ignorant cretins
>>2058516They should add big neon signs warning them of the impending doom.
>>2058516Level crossings are shit but you really should not be fucking up trying to beat a train.
>>2058550The crossings are on intersections and people try to turn left and right through them. People don't want to wait, which is understandable, but when the obstacle is hauling ass at 100 MPH you need to be gunning it through to play stupid games.The solution is to get rid of the level crossings but Brightline is being cheap fucks.
Trains don't drive on the roads
>>2058645Ok but if you drove a quarter mile down the tracks you can hardly blame "intersections" unless that's a new euphemism for a liter of vodka
>>2058550Endless level crossings and unfenced ROW meets frequent trains going faster than the average Amtrak. Some of the deaths are suicides but it’s mostly dumbass Florida Man shenanigans. Grade separation would cost billions so the carnage will continue.
>>2058550>Can anyone explain to me how this even happens?I wonder this too.Like its a big fucking loud and deadly machine and everytime i see tracks or have to cross them im cautious as fuck.
>>2058516>When a car drove through the gatesI fail to see how the train itself is at fault for the vehicles that keep ignoring the barriers.>Struck while walking on the tracksRetarded>Nothing to stop them from walking near the tracksExcept for the tracks being right there. Maybe don't do that you fucking retards. What do you think the tracks are for?
>>2058516>Do you autists not realize how sociopathic this makes you look?They do not:>>2058523>>2058524>>2058526>>2058547>>2058548>>2058550>>2058675>>2058677>>2058688And they valiantly defended the corporation>for free
Americans when they drive on the train tracks and get train'd:>muhfuggah dis nah ma faul, dat faul from da white man, imma sue dem muhfuggas
>>2058691I do wonder what the racial statistics are for this, unfortunately for the us they group mexicans and eastern euros as white so we won't ever really know the answer.
There should be Brightline trains all over the country. Sure would clean up the gene pool.
>>2058689DINDUNUFFIN
>>2058666There's literally street running freight in Tampa.
Brightline should run Look Listen Live coaches like my region's Class 1 did when I was a lad. Operation Lifesaver had a bigger impression on me than DARE.
>>2058768>coachesGo back to whatever communist internet shit hole you came from. Only commie faggots and the Europeans(really the same thing) call them coaches.
>>2058768its interesting that you say europeans call them coaches when what you mean is british people call them coaches as no one else in europe speaks english. Also that poster is clearly from canada as per the canadian flag on the train "coache" which is appropriate because canada uses british english you fucking nonce.
>>2058771>Also that poster is clearly from canada as per the canadian flag on the train "coache" which is appropriate because canada uses british english you fucking nonce.BNSF isn't Canadian
>>2058772They operate in canada you fucking nonce theres a fucking BRIGHT RED maple leaf
>>2058772there is also french text opposite the english text on the train car your a fucking retard
>>2058791They operate on an incredibly limited basis. To call them "my region's class I" and have that region be in Canada is retarded. To call cabooses "coaches" is also retarded. It just shows you're a commie and should hang.
>>2058645> The solution is to get rid of the level crossings but Brightline is being cheap fucks.yeah... that's not possible unless you built a rail viaduct for ~75 percent of the line from cocoa to miami. The FEC rail corridor cuts directly through the center of a bunch of towns with a lot of tight/weird crossings, so elevating the roads is out of the question. And it's florida so tunnels are, lets say, difficult
>>2058794
>>2058791>>2058792buttblasted foreigner
Turns out walking along the tracks of a high speed (not really, but for the US) rail line is a dumb idea.
>>2058812post hand.
>>2058691It's like the mentality lycrafags have when they get hit by a car>I recklessly swerved into the place where vehicles 100x heavier than mine travel at 50mph and now I have been hit, how could they do this to me!?
>>2058689>How would you feel if you got killed by a train?>I don't understand, I haven't been killed by a train
>>2058828Here's your Canadian railroad bro
>>2058831More like how would you feel if you through an intentional act of hubris and stupidity you decided you were above everyone else and society as a whole and decided to risk your life to not wait for a train to finish crossing and died in a way that almost couldn't be more deserving.
>>2058516>Do you autists not realize how sociopathic this makes you look?>>2058836>More like how would you feel if you through an intentional act of hubris and stupidity you decided you were above everyone else and society as a whole and decided to risk your life to not wait for a train to finish crossing and died in a way that almost couldn't be more deserving.They never learn
>>2058692>I do wonder what the racial statistics are for thisSouth Florida has the worst possible mix of drivers—Latinx, Haitians and other third worlders, Florida Man rednecks, and white boomer snowbirds going 40 years in the fast lane with their turn signal on. I’m sure they all make equitable contributions to the Brightline gore.
>>2058837>Play stupid games>Win stupid prizes>For some reason people aren't sympatheticDon't you have some starving African to give a performative shit about?
>>2058858>Play stupid games>Win stupid prizesDamn!!! That's edgy! Mind if I use it on my facebook?
>>2058516The train is doing everything that it's supposed to, by the book, and in almost all cases there were no injured passengers. Though I agree that many of the level crossings at which crashes occur are outdated and ideally should be grade separated. Also, how many people are killed by cars? The NHTSA did a study in 2023. On average, there is a car crash every 5 seconds in the US, half of those cause injuries, and a fatal one occurs every 12 minutes. In many of these cases, the drivers are not doing what they are supposed to (by driving recklessly, speeding, DUI, etc.). There are drivers on the road that are not competent enough for the task (especially during emergency situations), and really shouldn't be driving. But they are because they have to, since there are no alternatives.
>>2058864Yeah yeah heard it all before
>>2058861>>2058865I don't understand the critiquers point I don't even like trains i'm a fucking full on car shill who spams against road bicyclists etc but even I think these people deserve to die. Theres only so much red tape that should be put up in society
>>2058868It seems pretty clear to me that they are mocking your use of "stupid games/stupid prizes" which is a cliché used exclusively by "I am very smart" boomer reply-guy types who look like this
>>2058871kek that wasn't even me I was the one repeating making racial implications.
>>2058871Yeah but these types of guys are overwhelmingly pro-car; I think the detractor who's mocking the FAFO argument is just throwing whatever insult at the wall he hopes will stick regardless of whether or not it makes sense
>>2058836Stupidity on a big enough scale is a constant. "Deserving" doesn't really matter here. Plus, do you think the train engineers love getting their windscreens painted with bloody Florida Man lard??>>2058796Build a few over & underpasses from/to Rockledge Boulevard & similar coastal roads. Close 2 level crossings for every new over/underpass. Turning a few former crossings into cul-de-sacs will reduce traffic for locals and improve car mobility.Since the EPA has been thoroughly molested, you can probably build a branch from Miami to Belle Glade through Weston and bribe the South Central Florida Express to make their infra available to other carriers for freight capacity relief.Use said capacity relief to manage the process of rebuilding all of the Miami-Fort Lauderdale section on a viaduct.Expand metrorail and make old fucks take driving tests to reduce traffic.
>>2058920You can go to almost every accident dashcam/police bodycam video on youtube and find at least one person who commented "play stupid games win stupid prizes." It's played out.>>2058675>>2058851>>2058942>Florida manThis one's old hat too.
>>2058942so your solution is stop active train service and spend a bazillion dollars to seperate grade, great I think you miss why that rail line even happened.
>>2058951You don't have to stop train service to build a bridge over or under the tracks. Lower speeds through a construction zone are inevitable though.
>>2058942>Stupidity on a big enough scale is a constant. "Deserving" doesn't really matter hereNo, fuck you, git gud or get rekt. Coddling the lowest common denominator in direct defiance of Darwin is EXACTLY how weak men create weak times. >>2058943>Fafo is played outPeople wouldn't keep telling it to you if you'd just internalize the fact that actions have consequences and nobody feels bad for you when you suffer consequences of stupidity.
>>2058951>great I think you miss why that rail line even happened.NTA, but what do you mean?Did Brightline not build their own tracks? If Brightline is doing what Amtrak does elsewhere and sharing freight ROW then it's not Brightline that needs to fix the level crossings it's the freight railroad. And if they did build their own tracks then they built them too cheap for HSR standards.
>>2059006Okay but >FAFO>play stupid games, win stupid prizes>Florida manare expired quips. Come up with something else, it's like making a Chuck Norris joke.
>>2059015Florida Man is "played out" in the sense that it's just a cliche now, you won't be seen as clever, people will just forget about the sentence instantly instead of laughing. Stupid Games/Stupid Prizes is played out in the sense that it has come to be associated with disreputable people. If you say that out loud, people will actually remember it and think less of you. They are not the same.
>>2058951You can build viaducts parallel to the line and then do minor closures to reconnect it to the existing line. You could even repurpose the old track for a neat lil' streetcar maybe? >>2059006Look. FINE. Let's accept your worldview. Do you think that train engineers look forward to doing the job of burgerwagon annihilator, with not only the mental - but also physical health risks that entails?
>>2059017>Florida Man is "played out" in the sense that it's just a cliche nowAs one of the anons whom >>2058943 quoted, they have a point - the Florida Man thing happens because Florida has different privacy laws on crime reporting and cops feed juicy stories to the local press more often than in other states because of that. Yes I'm giving it a woke spin that anon did not, but the point is - there is some elitist, cruel voyeurism to the phrase. And of course, Florida probably has its own particular flavour of batshit in which the cliché fungus thrives.
>>2059023so spend a bazzzallion dollars is your solution okaay, not viable NEXT
>>2059030Well we could close the line then. Cars are safer and not having trains will prevent car crashes.
>>2059034You might as well ban cars too, then, since retard cyclists aren't safe from traffic. Let stupid people suffer the consequences of their actions. Pretty soon the gene pool will be clear of people who see a charging train and think>That pussy wouldn't hit me. and probably improve traffic all over because they're the same kind of person cutting you off, swerving through lanes, and ignoring red lights.
>>2059030how expensive do you think viaducts are?
>>2059042So your solution is to ignore the problem and externalize the cost through paying the emergency services to clean up the wrecks?
>>2059012The Orlando-to-Cocoa portion is the one that Brightline built, but it's to HSR standards with no grade crossing. It was also probably the most expensive part of the whole system to build.The rest of the line was upgraded, usually going from one line to 2 or 3, and all crossings were upgraded. There doesn't seem to be an "exclusive" line as they still have spurs on either side.The answer to "why didn't they build a $100B viaduct" is obvious but I'm not sure why they kept every single existing crossing. UP has closed scads of 'em in my area.
>>2058516>>2058689>>2058837>>2058864I don't know about anyone else here but I'm not the kind of guy that's gonna say people deserve to die without any sympathy for their families. But if you think these accidents are the fault of the trains or the train company then you're incredibly thick. This is nothing to do with defending corporations or being a die hard foamer it's common sense. Even that whole argument about level crossings being grade separated is retarded because again, what can be so hard to understand? The lights go red, the barriers go down, how many warnings, how many safety films can you put out to the public so they know to wait for the train to cross and the fatal consequences of not doing that? You are a serious clown if you're using this as a talking point against trains or train enthusiasts, your attempt at emotional blackmail is pathetically weak and did I mention you're retarded? I think I did but still you're retarded
>>2059044Short term pain, long term gain. Anyway, what's your solution, a dozen bridges? Elevated track? I guarantee that costs more than an ambulance and tow truck.
>>2059043How expensive is it compared to the current on grade infrastructure INFINTE cause it DOESN'T Exist you fucking retard.
>>2059067What point are you trying to make anon?
>>2059067>>2059043NTA, but spitballing here. The Fresno River rail viaduct in California is $2B (expensive, but not the $11B claimed) for a 1,600 foot bridge. So let's be generous and assume that it should be $1.5B because California's extra expenses, which comes out to $937,500 per foot, so $4.9B per mile, but the line is about 193 miles to Miami, so you're looking at something at $945B for your viaduct. Even if you shave off more it wouldn't justify it. Also it wouldn't get rid of grade crossings anyway due to the freight line.
>>2059069Basic viaducts don't cost that much, even with CAHSR's bloat factored in:>The agency says it has paid out $2 billion on a contract for a 32-mile stretch of projects that included this viaduct and more than a dozen other projects.>includes "12 roadway/railroad grade separations, two mainline viaducts, one tunnel, realignments of existing railroad tracks, utility relocations, roadway relocations, two trench sections and a major river crossing over the San Joaquin River."Personally I'd assume about $200-400 million per mile for a heavy rail viaduct, presuming minimal institutional bloat and a quick environmental impact study approval. The main problem would be having to construct it over an active rail line because that will slow down rail traffic and increase the construction time, adding to the cost. The cost would also be affected by any kind of ornamentation or design flourishes to beautify the structure.https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2024/05/13/california-high-speed-rail-11-billion/73644153007/
>>2059072oh woah, only 200-400 million a mile.
>>2059074Major infrastructure projects will never be cheap
>>2059067it is infinitely expensive for me to take a poo in your shoes because no such poo exists yet. Thank you for making my anus feel valued.>>2059069If you're just rebuilding brightline's right of way in Miami, it isn't even that level of cost. Brightline's infra is built to a far cheaper standard - with max speeds of 79 mph and not electrified.
>unknown technology
>>2059034>Well we could close the line then. Cars are safer and not having trains will prevent car crashes.
>>2059097Brightline cannot change the road. Only the state's transportation department can do that.And a road bridge isn't that much cheaper than a rail bridge.
>>2059097florida is a big swamp with constant tornadoes
>>2059101...yet another reason to bui4Jld shit above ground??
>>2059105think I mistyped the captcha onto the text itself, oops>>2059099Can't they propose changes to the road or make their private funds available for a mutually beneficial end?
>>2058516>It's killing a person EVERY THIRTEEN DAYS.Good.I would suggest that parking on an active rail line is not a clever idea and one dead every other week is going to make US IQ increase ever so slightly.
>>2058556Funny enough, trains are not loud when they are far. Many ppl have a hard time judging distance between self and train. Many idiots want to GO AROUND train "arms"/barriers. PS Brightline is not going to spend $50 bazillion on tunnels. Jesus, people. WTF, Florida Man?
It cracks me up when they say, A train struck a vehicle." It is actually, "An idiot decided to ignore safety signs and drove INTO THE PATH of a heavy train that had zero maneuverability."
>>2058516The autistic railfans are based
>>2058516>It's killing a person EVERY THIRTEEN DAYS.
>>2058516It isn't the train's fault Floridians think self importance makes them immortal.
blood for the blood train.
>>2059099>And a road bridge isn't that much cheaper than a rail bridge.I don't know how much that would be but I do know that in the Katy Freeway construction project $238M was put toward over-engineering the toll lanes in the center of the freeway in hopes that they could one day be used for light rail. The real cost is how the grade can be, highway inclines tend to be no more than 5% but trains struggle with anything over 2%. A single percentage makes a HUGE difference in how much infrastructure there is.
Brightline shares the CSX right-of-way at street level (where people are getting hit by the trains). That line has existed for decades (prior to Brightline) with CSX and Amtrak both using it. People are fucking stupid and get themselves run over by trains all the time and it's not the fault of the trains themselves -- cars & trucks can steer and stop/start quickly; trains cannot. Blaming Brightline for these deaths is retarded. Blaming it while ignoring the other users of the line is just standard-procedure incompetent reporting.
>>2059202>it's not the fault of the trains themselves -- cars & trucks can steer and stop/start quickly; trains cannot.Why the fuck would you post this anywhere let alone here. Everyone knows that shit you sperg
>>2059204>Everyone knows thatAnd yet this very thread is filled with hysterical posts accusing everyone who implies just that of being a heartless bastard. It reminds me of the fools who died when Texas got cold a few years back because they didn't think to use blankets, and their families whined about the government abandoning them instead of taking some PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY IN ANY ASPECT OF THEIR LIVES.
I was on an amtrak train (the Silver Meteor) that killed two people (20-24 hours apart). The first person was just north of Richmond, Virginia, a homeless guy, suspected of suicide, or he slipped/fell and couldn't get up in time.The second person was a woman getting off a commuter train somewhere around hollywood, Florida. She was wearing headphones, got off the commuter train, our train was going through the middle track (3 track section right of way, outer tracks for commuter trains, inner track for freight/amtrak) and she walked off the commuter train onto the center track right as our train was coming through at like 40mph. Overall a decent train trip as my car attendant brought me a bottle of Maker's mark and some glasses and ice after the 2nd person got hit, which helped to pass the ~4 hour delay before reaching Miami.
>>2058524Train 42u88336325799
>>2059239>Muh ice stormIrrelevant.>And yet this very thread is filled with hysterical posts accusing everyone who implies just that of being a heartless bastardBecause it is. Even normies know trains can't stop on a dime and that they have the right of way–this is the transportation board, where 100% of us knew that. There's no need to post the same trite aphorisms and plain-as-day observations that a thousand other spergs did on youtube. More to the point though, it's as if train autists take someone's death or maiming as a personal insult. Why do they feel a compulsory need to defend a railroad corporation >for free when someone gets clipped by a train? Do they think their hobby and favorite locomotives are under attack and they'll be taken away if they didn't? It's so obvious they see themselves as the real victims in these incidents.
>>2059266I also support not putting up railings at national parks where people fall off cliffs taking selfies. There has to be a limit to provided safety at some point.
>>2058516My question is what were the accidents on this line before Brightline? It wasn't like the Brightline was built on a long-abandoned right of way, every single railroad crossing that Brightline goes through pre-dated it. Were vehicle-trains collisions happening with CSX? Are the upgraded signals, perhaps, making things worse?
>>2059297I used to live in Brevard county. Florida East Coast runs container trains up and down the state at 60+ mph so nobody can claim they're not used to "fast" trains
>>2058516I don't get. Should we blame the train somehow? What did the train do? It runs along its tracks and its forbidden for anyone else to be on the tracks except on specific marked crossings which have extensive signalling to alert when a train is coming. How is any of this the trains fault???
>killingYou're spelling it wrong, it's culling.
>>2059266NTA but are you seriously dim? The whole premise of this thread is that these accidents are meant to be the fault of ONE specific train company and you think saying that isn't the case is heartless and just defending corporations. Your logic is ludicrously stupid. I don't speak ill of the dead but do you really think they made the right decision to knowingly drive through closed level crossing barriers and walk on an active railway? It's almost comedic that you think this is a solid talking point against trains/train enthusiasts and that no one can grasp how clownish this actually makes you look. You talk of us supposedly feeling under attack (which is once again an unbelievably retarded point) but the title of the thread is blaming train enthusiasts for NOT saying it's Brightline's fault these accidents happened, because it isn't. That's nothing to do with corporations it's just a logical conclusion after someone risks their lives on a railway, that could be any company, any railway, any where you, fool
>>2059325Incredibly butthurt + your premise is flawed
>>2058516Typical cognitive process of the motorist are on display here.In no other scenario it's considered just, fair or decent, to set an object in motion such that it becomes dangerous as a result of it's speed, momentum and energy, without absolute certainty, that it's path is clear and it can be brought to a halt well in time, should anyone approach from outside the field of view or anything unexpected happen.For example you don't get to break loose boulders on hillsides, wether it's your intention to hit someone or you just accept the possibility without posessing actual knowledge of the outcome.In the collective consensus or the hivemind this basic concept got inverted through (((cultural influences))) when the context is motorvehicles. This goes hand in hand with the erosion of accountability and responsibility and a majority finding comfort in a transfer of those, along with freedom, to a leviathan (Ellul for more on that). And just like that you arrive in a society where 'It is not my fault that I killed someone, the state posted a speed limit, which I adhered to while blindly taking a turn, fully aware of the fact I would not be able to bring my vehicle to a halt, should something unexpected come into view around the turn. ' is accepted, while it is no different from 'I dislodged the boulder or took a pop shot in that general direction as no signs were posted telling me not to do so and I was not aware it would hit someone'.The motorist truly embodies everything that makes a disgusting person.
>>2059326>acts like a retard>says retarded things to support his retarded argument>gets told in full detail why everything he's saying is fundamentally retarded>durr you're butthurt and your premise which I didn't read (because I'm retarded) is flawedBut anyway despite that display of idiocy answer me this:Were those people right to drive through the barriers and walk in front of an oncoming train? And why is this the fault Brightline despite all the other traffic that's ran on that line decades before? If you can't sensibly answer those 2 things for me it's your premise that's retarded, but everyone already knew that
>>2059338Still asspained + doubling down on flawed premise
>>2059339Nope, just further illustrating your stupidity. Now answer those 2 questions and why my premise is flawed. I don't know if you're trying to be funny but you're just embarrassing yourself at this point
>>2059345>why my premise is flawedI never suggested it was the railroads' faultYou also did exactly what I said earlier: Turned yourself into the victim and defended railroad corporations >for free
>>2059347>I never suggested it was the railroads' faultWhich is why you're a retard, because you think it's a particular operating company and nothing to do with rail traffic in general having different operating companies>You also did exactly what I said earlier: Turned yourself into the victim and defended railroad corporations >for freeWhich is why you're a retard, because you still see it as "defending corporations" and not pointing out they're not the only "corporation" running trains on that railway
>>2059348>with rail traffic in general having different operating companiesThat's why I put the apostrophe in the correct place for a plural possessive noun. "Railroads' " rather than "railroad's." Hope this helps, ESL.
>>2059349You really are dim aren't you. No one cares about your punctuation. You ignored 90% of what I said and tell me my premise is flawed but the truth is you don't have an answer which is why you're detracting over nonsense instead
>>2059350I know English is one of the most difficult languages to learn–I'm happy to help!
>>2059351It's so sweet watching an utter moron try talking down to me after losing an argument
Guys, lets forget about the dumbass that started this thread with his dumb opinions and is now damage controlling like the dumdum he is. I'm turning this into a train thread, starting with NONE OTHER THAN BRIGHTLINE
>>2059352>>2059353Just suppress the urge to make yourself the victim (letting your emotions get the best of you). You start making mistakes like being unable to discern the difference between words such as railroad's and railroads'. No one is coming to take away your hobby.
>>2059354Check out the Velaros they've been showing in the Brightline West proposal, I sure hope this project goes through no matter what almost seems too good to be true
Better angle
Nothing more than a pipe-dream I know but stuff like this is always an interesting concepthttps://www.yesterland.com/highspeed.html
Can't beat what Egypt's got lined up anyway, Velaro, Desiro, and a Vectron? The Holy Trinity!
Israels got a good thing going too, of course Germany has been guilt tripped into supplying them with trains >for free since their foundation
>>2059355>>2059358>>2059359>>2059360>>2059361Imagine getting your feelings hurt so bad you spam off-topic images hoping to hide your humiliation
Now hold on a second... Brightline Velaros might look pretty neat but watch out, Alstom is also making an entry!
Now this is a funny coincidence, Brightline is apparently owned by Virgin, and they're also interested in cross-Channel services... But here's where it gets interesting, Alstom is submitting yet another design for them!!
>>2059368Meant for >>2059366
Did someone say train thread? Starting the day with some good old vintage
>>2058516TOTAL JUGGERNAUT VICTORY
>>2058529Electrification is perfectly meritorious depending on context and national transportation strategies or lack thereof
>>2058516>Do you autists not realize how sociopathic this makes you look?>The train has killed over 180 people since 2017.>It's killing a person EVERY THIRTEEN DAYS.HAHAHAHHAhAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAfter all the laughing these faggots do about cyclists being run over they now cry over cagers that have far more culpability in actively going around barriers that are there specifically warning them of the oncoming trainLooks like these people never should've gotten a drivers license, we clearly need better drivers license training
>>2058675>unfencedokay, nvm, I'm not defending thisanother case of America lmaoI should have assumed from the start the the infrastructure is dangerous and unclear with plenty of possiblity for mistakes to more easily creep in than I had ignorantly expected for level train crossings going by my experience of them alone
>>2059368>>2059370>>2059371>>2059392>>2059408>>2059410ESLs completely BTFO by America again
>>2058868>i'm a fucking full on car shill who spams against road bicyclists etcAs a cyclist I think we should both agree to hate john forresterIf you see this idiotic fuck shilled here you should know to hate him because he is part of the reason why - when someone decides to cycle at all in americy - it's usually invariably on the road:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRPduRHBhHIthis dude is literally the erebus of cycling in america
>>2059106>Can't they propose changes to the road or make their private funds available for a mutually beneficial end?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0FDIfuhUscThey're already doing a lotI mean, is this maybe legitimately a "florida man" issue?What makes this line unsafer than others?I can't find a good overview of what may or may not be missing.
>>2059325>>2059332>these floridians are just spiritually indian around trains>>2059353BRIGHTLINE CONQUERS ALLhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNEfcmIxlTY>>2059355having the BRIGHTLINE zip past the cars in a traffic jam is definitely a good permanent advertisement to break the stranglehold car shills have on the infrastructure debate in the general public100s of people all accelerating at the same time and going fast and still safer than the carshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Suugn-p5C1MIt's not like we didn't know this shit for like 20 years at this point
>>2059413You know, they say your imagination has a greater impact than real life, so lets shift away from realistic corporate proposals and appreciate some art! I mean hell with the amount of games/movies/TV showing a sci-fi America, why wouldn't we get to see what it would look like with actual state of the art railways!
>>2059416Exactly what I was thinking, I don't know who these retarded cagetrolls think they're fooling when bullet trains exist
>>2059434>>2059435What does this have to do with Brightline Florida?
>>2059436It's good to dream about an alternate reality but another thing I like to do is look back at history and see how good things used to be!
>>2059443What does this have to do with Brightline Florida?
>>2059446Back on the topic of art, it doesn't even have to be imaginary!
>>2059450You sperged out and made an argument with a flawed premise and have spent a day spamming off-topic images trying to hide it. Sad.Hope you learn from your humiliating experience.
>>2058516Really the problem is all the level crossings, any high speed or capacity line should be grade separated, but that would require the sort of investment in rail infrastructure most of the US is unwilling to make.
>>2059455Did you know Amtrak were leased an ICE 1 as well as an X2000? Well if you didn't you do now! How interesting would that be, if instead of Acelas you guys had ICE trains speeding up and down the NEC
>>2059456This level crossing argument is stupid. It's not even a high speed line to begin with but that says nothing about rail investment anyway. Lights start flashing, barriers go down, stop, wait until train passes, wait for the barriers to go up and if they don't then another train is coming. Level crossings aren't dangerous and anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional
>>2059455>>2059458Here's the X2000 as well
No more talking anyway. This is gonna be a non stop train thread, not just what America could be but celebrating the world of trains! Whether that's high speed trains or short distance commuter trains, my hard drive is truly endless!
>>2059458>>2059460You made a mistake and flipped out online - embarrassing, sure, but it's not going away if you keep reminding everyone about by trying to hide it with off-topic spam.
>>2059463
>>2059459They are dangerous when you take the average Florida driver and add jeets into the mix as well, yes. They see lights flashing, barriers going down and don't think "oh I should stop and wait for the train to pass", they think "I need to risk my life trying to race this train so I can save a few minutes". Not to mention the people who will sit in traffic on their phones, oblivious to the fact they are parked on an active rail line.
>>2059461>>2059462>>2059465>>2059466>>2059468Will you confirm that you learned the difference between>railroad'sand>railroads' ?
>>2059469
>>2059477
>>2059481Turntables, the IRL fiddle yard.
>>2059519Ooh is that one of them Japanese EMUs meant for local freight?
>>2059345>>2059348>>2059350>>2059352I won btw
>>2059527
>>2059526Yessir, something I hope to see more of. I think class 325s were a similar concept (unfortunately retired but similar examples might follow) and other than that Germany made a freight DMU
>>2059535>>2059536>>2059537>>2059538>>2059539>>2059540You lost.
>>2059536I cant remember in which thread a couple of anons were weighing the pros and cons of multiple unit trains- despite their drawbacks I still find them to be sexo, and something about each (or most) car(s) being power cars tickles some reptilian part of my brain
>>2059599
>>2058516Some people could do with a bit o killin
>>2059602The thing I enjoy learning the most about as of late is vintage MUs, this website has some pretty good info on British DMUs/EMUs. When I was younger I always assumed they were rare prior to the mid 20th century but was pleasantly surprised to learn how numerous they were:https://igg.org.uk/rail/00-app3-4/ap3-emu.htmhttps://igg.org.uk/rail/00-app3-4/ap3-demu.htmhttps://igg.org.uk/rail/00-app3-4/ap3-dmu.htm
>>2059604>>2059606>>2059609>>2059610>>2059611>>2059614>>2059616>>2059619>>2059621>>2059622>t. humiliated
>>2059623
>>2058516>Do you autists not realize how sociopathic this makes you look?I feel sorry for the drivers... OF THE TRAINS.They've got right of way, so dumbasses in cars ought to stay the fuck off the tracks because train beats anything on the road any day. Instead, thick fucks just decide to suicide by stupidity. Damn shame.At least with every death, the average IQ of Florida rises a little bit towards room temperature. Doing God's work there. And those who moan about it are dumbass pussies with no relevant opinions at all.
>>2059354You are a foolish retard. You specifically phrased your post to include an extremely uncommon use of grammar so that you could impose yourself as mentally superior to another. You aren't allowed to use ad hominem in debates you bundle of sticks.
>>2059414Man are you literally Not just bikes himself or just caught up in his cult of personality. If you think john forester did anything bad for cycling your a fucking retard. Every single bike lane that removes a lane of traffic in a thoroughfare is not and will never replace the transportation carrying capacity it is removing. I understand that you like bicycling me too, but I don't get to determine what everyone else wants and everyone else wants to drive cars everywhere. You might be encapsulated in the people you meet and interact with but its well under 5% of people I know would consider commuting on a cycle even if I only consider those who already live in a city.
>>2059415based firefighter.
>>2059467Yes you may call us heartless but if your opinion is that your life and potentially the safety of others around you is worth a few minutes then frankly you deserve to die. You're willing to let other people die to convenience yourself.
>>2059623Your a schizophrenic, take your battery medicine
>>2058689you're just a huge faggot
