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>>2058932Speaking of Montreal, I was reading about the history of transit and I began to read about the planned rail link to Mirabel Airport that could have totally replaced Dorval. It makes no sense to have the airport on the islandWhat a missed opportunity, Dorval sucks so badThe removal of the streetcars is sad tooCanada's transport policy is so retarded. I hope they get a decent train system again but Canadian Rail is too obstructionist. Freight and passenger rail needs to learn to coexist
>>2058984I can agree that Montreal's public transport system is still a bit sloppy.As for the airport, I feel like they didn't have a choice but to build it on the island.
>>2058932Post full transit map
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>>2058932Considerations/questions (without having all too much knowledge, so correct me if I'm wrong):>commuter line converted to LRTwhy tho. It seems the new service is relatively slow (top speed 100 kph, average speed 50) for a service around 50-60 km. Adding to that the trains seem to have a metro-like interior with lots of standing room. What's the benefit here over the previous commuter service? Seems to me that a regular commuter train would be more adequate here. So what's even the point?
>>2058998looks better on the map to sell to stupid voters. Like every decision you've seen under "democracy"
>>2058998>It seems the new service is relatively slowIt will take less the 45 minutes to go from Deux-Montagnes to the central station, which is around 30km. It's still pretty fast considering all of the stations it serves.>Seems to me that a regular commuter train would be more adequate hereIt's no issue since the whole system is automated. They can chug as many trains as they need.
>>2058998Commuter rail has very high operating costs so by getting operating costs down by building an automated light metro they can increase frequency way more than they could before.
>>2059021I don't think train drivers are that much of the operating cost of a commuter train tbqhwymf. Plus you now have the one-time expense for the automatic system plus regular upkeep. Running costs are likely cheaper, but I don't know if it makes all that much of a difference. How high was and is frequency anyway? For a commuter line of this length it seems like a frequency if 30 min off peak would be fine, maybe with some extra services during peak times. >>2059018I guess that's an acceptable time, but they could have express services with fewer stops to shave a few minutes off.However I still think that line is much too long for trains with metro-style bench seats. This is becoming a terrible habit all over the world to have lots of standing room for high capacity on paper without taking into consideration that nobody wants to stand for 40 or 30 or even 20 minutes.
>>2059029>This is becoming a terrible habit all over the world to have lots of standing room for high capacity on paper without taking into consideration that nobody wants to stand for 40 or 30 or even 20 minutes.This is something I can agree with you. It's fortunately not that big of an issue since a train passes every 2.5 minutes during rush hour.
>>2059032>every 2.5 minutesnigga what
>>2058998I believe another aspect to this is regulations. Canada essentially follows the US's FRA regulations and these simply aren't designed for the type of commuter rail operations you see in Europe or East Asia. This includes things like signalling systems, staffing requirements on trains, rolling stock specs, etc. Toronto is great example of how this can get in the way since our GO RER project has turned into a debacle due to both Metrolinx's incompetence but also our Class I regulations being to restrictive. Deutsche-Bahn was supposed to deliver the RER system but backed out partly because our regulations made it almost impossible for DB to implement its desired changes. Canada is to shit even for DB apparently.All of that is to say that from a regulatory perspective converting the old commuter line into a light-metro would be simpler then fighting with the feds to change regulations and/or be granted exemptions. The REM is for all intents a purposes severed from the main line railway and is thus not subject to its regulations but is instead now governed by the same provincial regulations that govern the Montreal Metro.
>>2059045Fair enough. But I still don't see how that would preempt higher speeds and/or express services as well as more comfortable interiors for the trains, which are probably my main caveat on the project.But all the explanations really have helped for this thing to make sense to me.
>>2059064well your probably not from canada then, as a canadian the number on rule in canada is you can't have that.
>>2058932hopefully people like it and we can try to build again the one in the east
