How big can sail boats get? Is there an upper limit?
Requesting that old pasta about the guy who goes on a sailing trip with his dad and they get becalmed by a disaster near Australia and they just take turns ambushing and raping each other as they slowly lose their minds and it's really awkward after they get rescued
>>2061079Fuck off, degenerate faggot
>>2061055The tea clippers have been dethroned, at least in terms of gross tonnage. See the neoliner roro. Interestingly similar top speed and sail area to the clippers.https://www.neoline.eu/en/I actually can't wait for the next age of sail, but there are a lot of other cargo ship layouts and sizes that need proofs of concept.
>>2061119Perfectly on topic request, maybe you were looking for this thread >>2043922
>>2061055iirc old timey masts were limited by the height of the trees used to make them, which was why clippers came about so late as they used tall new-world trees from old growth forests which supplied superlative timber compared to European trees.Now though they can make masts out of carbon fiber so Im guessing the limit depends on the depth and weight of the keel
>>2061148>iirc old timey masts were limited by the height of the trees used to make themStepped multi-sectioned masts are a 16th century technology, emerging from the Dutch and their flyut trade fleet.High speed vessels like clippers weren't feasible prior to the 19th century because of the lack of copper sheeting that would allow for draggy weed and animal growth on the ship hull that would negate most benefits of a slick high speed hull shortly after starting a voyagle cleanly scrubbed and maintained in port.
>>2061137>neoliner roroabsolutely disgusting, i'll take a container ship instead
>>2061055Earths curvature will eventually limit size.
>>2061265Why? Do you like rusty containers?
>>2061513A rusty container has better lines and proportions than that disgusting abomination.
>>2061525Really? Sound fairly unreasonable. Roro aka roll on roll off designs seem much cleaner to look at than the 20th century's giant barges with their crumbling iron boxes. Anyway the boxes are bad for aerodynamics.
>>2061531roro is literally the same barge with two ugly disproportioned masts slapped onto it, like a mockery of both sailboats and container ships in their utilitarian pragmatism.just looking at it makes me want to vomit.
>>2061485just make the ship curved too, problem solved.
>>2061256>Stepped multi-sectioned masts are a 16th century technology, emerging from the Dutch and their flyut trade fleet.Yeah but arent segmented masts more susceptible to a "tyranny of the rocket" problem in that the taller the mast the more of its own weight it needs to support and a contiguous piece of timber thus has a greater strength to weight ratio?
>>2061533You should vomit, I wish that for you. What I imagine your taste is like should be realised.
>>2061055.If the Earth is a flat one or that even if the Earth is round, and that the ship is built on space, then there's no upper limit. One thing is for sure in a spherical shape world, there's a limit if when built in a globe earth, a sensible normal, and the right scientifial limit.
>>2061545That's what the stays and shrouds are for - to support that weight.
>>2061567You will never be a woman and will always remain a disgusting abomination much like your floating piece of turd will never be a real sailboat and will always remain an ugly perversion of all natural and beautiful.
>>2061574Fair enough, I guess the information I absorbed via cultural osmosis was incorrect.Though for the sake of OPs question the tallest mast we could build now would have to be made of carbon fiber or some kind of exotic alloy
>>2061608>Though for the sake of OPs question the tallest mast we could build now would have to be made of carbon fiber or some kind of exotic alloyProbably but it'd be well beyond any practical need for a ship you could think of.
>>2061545Clippers were greatly overcanvased for their size but overall they weren't very large vessels, so compared to ships of the line or large oceanic cargo haulers they'd sport a fairly modest sail rig. There wasn't a problem making the masts and rigging for those giants so porting a smaller version of that to an even smaller high speed hull isn't much of an engineering challenge.
>>2061627>Probably but it'd be well beyond any practical need for a ship you could think of.Very true, and youd eventually run into some kind of ceiling (or basement) with respect to keel depth such that this hypothetical vessel would be unable to operate in most ports or canal locks
>>2061608Kites. You can anchor them to the hull rather than trying to transfer force through the mast, and takes advantage of the higher wind speeds further up away from the surface.
>>2061717What about using a windmill to generate electricity that can be used to propel the ship?Probably not as efficient as using the wind strictly as a means of physical propulsion but it does allow you to sail directly upwind/otherwise eliminate the need to tack
>>2061717Silly because of the fact that sails work like aerofoils rather than chutes. Because of this, sails can travel windward.
>>2061055>Is there an upper limit?Relative to how big boats get at all? Not really (above a certain size, finding ports big enough gets hard). But you'd probably want to use modern materials and configurations.
>>2061721What about rotors? There are several ships which use them. Can those sail upwind?
>>2062043iirc Flettener Rotors work best when sailing upwind but need to be powered, so are more for providing modest fuel savings rather than 100% of the propulsive power like youd get with a more conventional sailing rig
>>2061055The problem with sailing ships is that you can't stack containers on the deck. They would have to be xbox-huge to offset that drawback. Technically, it's not that big of a deal, but practically it will cause some issues. Upper limit is dictated by the layout of harbors, bridges, etc.
>>2061485the Earth is only holding the future of sail back
>>2061485That’s a huge bitch
