SHOULD I GET A GRAVEL BIKE OR AN ENDURANCE BIKE REEEEEEEEThe roads around me are potholed and gross
>>2061744>potholesOH NO SAVE ME GRAVELMAN
BEHOLDthe endurance gravel bike
>>2061744Some gravel bikes are like rigid mountain bikes, some are basically endurance road bikes. If you want to go fast, get the road bike and put 32mm. If you want to ride over roots and shit you're gonna want at least 40mm tires, more will only open up your options. You said "road" it would be dumb to buy a gravel bike to ride road. Some road bikes fit 38mm tires anyways
>>2061744canyon endurace allroad
>>2061747>>2061745I mostly ride MTB and sometimes will ride actual "gravel" with the MTB but I need a new road bike and so the ability to do both seems reasonable to me unless the gravel bike would absolutely suck on the street...
>>2061744a rigid 90s mtb on fat tubeless slicks
>>2061753they don't suck on roads but they will make you want to get an actual road bike. There is a bunch of really good gravel tires for tarmac but the feeling still stays.t. owns both
>>2061753If you aren't the type of guy to freak out about not min-maxing, and you for sure want to ride mountain bike trails, then a gravel bike with fast tires will be plenty fine for road riding. You won't be as fast as a road bike but you'll be efficient enough compared to say a mountain bike on road. If you want to prioritize road riding, but will occasionally ride small gravel, dirt roads, general chill off road shit, get a modern endurance road bike and put larger road tires. . Something like a Giant Defy, Trek Emonda
>>2061753if you already have mtbs then I'd prioritize the road features as anon says in the second paragraph >>2061764I have an 80s steel road bike on 32mm slick-ish tires that I take off-road all the time, but not on true modern-mtb-style off-road. I would never gimp my road abilities to prioritize heavier offroad on anything I ride on roads half the time or more. hell, I ride my other, sporty road bike across turf and short gravel patches on my regular routes quite often, I just don't bomb through them full speed. a road bike is not the fragile thing people assume.
>>2061744Choose your tires and riding position and work from there. Failing that, lets see your roads. >>2061747The dividing line is frequently marketing, as this anon correctly notes.>>2061753Test ride a serious goddam dedicated performance road bike that enjoys tarmac and pacelines before you do anything else.
>>2061822I don't think you, if you aren't experienced already, can get a real sense of "serious godamm dedicated performance road bike" in a 20 minute test ride, other than "holy shit omg omg this thing is so much fun please take my money".Unless you plan on renting something and doing a century ride on it, which is a thing, but usually it's whatever the shop has, you can't really choose, and it's probably not going to be the bike you were thinking of getting. Pretty much anyone looking for a road-ish bike, who is coming from a MTB, who is asking the question, is going to be happier with an endurance-style or grabble bike. Yes even if you gottago fast. It's a cliche at this point but unless you're eking out marginal gains and you have a "pain cave", comfort over distance is going to make you faster over distance than lowering the aerodynamic profile of your torso. You can always find freakish examples of 80 year old boomers who actually *are* comfortable on aggressive geo bikes, of course, but that's not the norm.
>Gravel Bike>Endurance Bike>All-Terrain BikeIs it all marketing speak? The differences seem to be minuscule at best
>>2061845You're just 2 dumb to appreciate the nuanced differences between them
If are riding pavement and well maintained gravel what you will probably enjoy more of a road bike/all road endurance bike with 30+mm of clearance. You have to have a lot of tire to actually ignore pot holes, so don't factor that too much into the equation. A gravel bike, especially a modern one, is going to give you a slacker ride, a higher bottom bracket, priority in lower gearing with wider tires. Those are all things that matter more when the surface is chunky, messy, and steeper as a lot of good gravel riding can be. If the surface is more well maintained trail, crushed lime stone, tar and chip road etc you won't really feel the advantage of that. If you didn't already have a bike that rides well on rough surface I'd say sure get the gravel bike and maybe save up for a second wheel set. Seeing as you do though I would say the other folks are correct here, get a bike that offers you a completely new experience and just make sure you can get some 30-40mm slick tires on there. Enjoy the go fast bike going fast and don't think too much about the 20% of surfaces it will ride vs the 80% you get it for.
>>2061746Fuck you and your AI slop. Get hit by a bus, faggot.
>>2061852You can't really ignore pot holes even on 40mm tires, it's just less of a guaranteed crash and more of a "ow that hurt". People really need to learn basic bike control before picking a bike type to make up for their inexperience
>>2061764>>2061805>>2061834>>2061852Thanks for the sincere advice! I already have a janky old Cervelo triathlon bike that I have retrofitted for the road with modern drop bars etc but wanted a more modern and refined bike for longer rides.I just ordered a Cervelo Caledonia, which seems like somewhat of an endgame “endurance” bike so I am very excited
gravel bikes are a meme and even if you disagree, if your city has potholes and shit you are no longer on a gravel-equivalent and are taking the equivalent of whole tree roots. even if the roads aren't so bad, curbs exist. get a bike with a real suspension and the most robust tires you caneven in rally racing the most in-depth suspension tuning happens for road tracks because it turns out a sudden 6 inch drop from asphalt to gravel will hurt even a race car pretty badly>>2061845yes
>>2061874you are so full of shit, rally cars? suspension tuning? are you retarded
>>2061894You know those little plastic caps on your 3200$ front fork? You can turn them around a little bit to adjust how it behaves on an uneven surface. And if you get a bike that bends in the middle, there's a big gear-looking thing; it's actually threaded and you can turn it to adjust at least one spring. The other may require a screwdriver.
Imagine being too poor to have a proper fixie.
>>2061869Lordy lordy why would you do that?
>>2061910the new caledonia is pretty based tho. Nothing for poorfags tho
>>2061895>>2061874>even in rally racing the most in-depth suspension tuning happens for road tracks because it turns out a sudden 6 inch drop from asphalt to gravel will hurt even a race car pretty badly