I might be making a terrible mistake but I've been researching moving to Chicago because of a job opportunity. I'm also determined to go carless before year's end and there's no where else in the Midwest I can do that comfortably.I understand there's some bike infrastructure but it's been ranked as one of the least safe cities to bike. The L seems decent by US standards though they're a little poopy and your odds of getting shot aren't concentrated in any area like other cities (it happens everywhere in Chicago). What does /n/ think of Chicago transportation-wise?
>>2067994>least safe cities to bikeYou should be far more concerned about shootings, stabbings, and riots because you know who
I sure hope you like riding in the cold, wind, and snow for a third of the year.
I lived there for a while. The "by US standards" is doing a lot of work there. If you want to hang out with nothing but pasty white hot topic kids in Avondale, maybe occasionally venturing into Logan Square and Lakeview using Divvy bikes, and your work commute is perfectly in sync with the 9-5 Monday to Friday thing, then you can get by without a car. But your life will be much more convenient and you will have a lot more social opportunities if you do have a car. Honestly it's not all that different from a place like NYC where everyone pretends they don't want a car, but in reality anyone who has the means, does have one. Because the transit system revolves around working in a high rise in a certain neighborhood, and staying in your home in a certain other neighborhood, and moving around on a very specific schedule. If that isn't your entire life, well, sucks to be you!This thread having mentioned "Chicago" which is for some reason the boogyman of a certain crowd, the rest of this thread will just be screeching about minorities, who clearly live in Chicago and no other city, so you can go ahead and hide the thread now because you will not get any useful information from other posters.
>>2067994I visited Chicago for a week once. I parked my car and used the train. with my cousin who didn't have a car, we used the train and some busses. the bus was frequent enough that we didn't consult a schedule we just went to a stop and one came within ten minutes. my other friend had a car so we used it. transit seemed really convenient. I'm used to flyover where it's just busses like once an hour on a few main roads.
Public Transit can never work in Chicago, it's too big and theres black people. I know best, I'm from Texas and own over 40 guns.
>>2068040>c-chicago is so nice, there isnt a somalian jumping bean placing carteli bombs outside my house right now unimpeded by ICE!https://heyjackass.com/
In 2011 I was deep on this board and I decided I need to move to Chicago and sell my car.March 2012 I moved here and I love it. I got a job promoting bike riding for the city and rode year round.The bike infrastructure is fantastic for a city of this size.I lived in Logan Square for 10 years 15 minute walk to the train and it was awesome. Sadly after Covid it’s a moving homeless shelter and going to take a year or two to clean it up.I still live in the city, far up north and save my riding for the summer. However it’s the best city I’ve ever visited and every time I travel I just become more grateful I live here.I have been to every nook and cranny of this city (part of the bike job) and I’ve yet to be bothered by someone. The violence is 95% located in the West and Southside. Obviously they come into the white areas and then we hear about it on the news when they shoot some bystanders. My family comes to visit. Very small rural town in the south and they were blown away by how beautiful it is and how kind everyone here is.Would really recommend moving here.>make more money>chicks are hotter>bike year round>world class restaurants >easily make bike friendsGood luck
>>2068259Man, I can't imagine how nice Chicago would be if they ever got crime in check. Not even like a utopia or anything just closer to NYC.My only other option is Minneapolis? You been there?
>>2068281Have you ever even been to chicago or are you just basing this on /pol/ vibes? Unless you're a professional criminologist or you just like hanging out on street corners in garfield park the crime isn't something that would affect you. If you do what anon did and move to logan square with the rest of the white yuppie millennials you're fine. The hobos on the train are a nuisance and it makes the public transit feel lawless and dangerous if you're not used to seeing that but you're not likely to even hear gunshots at night which is a common occurrence in some other cities that have a tendency to attract the young people looking for the "city experience" like the slowly gentrifying parts of philly or south eastern queens NYt. not a chicagoan but have lived there in the past
>>2068291Visited many times. I'm actually from St. Louis. So I know that crime 'won't affect me' until it does.
>>2068292The per capita murder rate in st louis is at least double the per capita murder rate in chicago, so what are you so afraid of?
>>2068293meaningless statistic when the city borders are drawn so differently. all the nice parts of stl are outside the city border, there's no south loop -> lake view equivalent of rich ppl adding into the capita count
>>2068331Bro. So you expect me to believe St. Louis has different neighborhoods, with different demographics, crime rates, etc? Citation needed. No other city in the world is like that, so why would this one place be like that? I feel like you are making things up to "win" an argument online.
>>2068293Other guy is not me. But St. Louis crime numbers are always funky because there's a weird difference between the city and the county. Place is weird as hell. But anyway, I think it's okay to have some concern about crime and not be so dismissive of people's concerns. You would agree Chicago could be safer and could maybe learn something from NYC which is what I originally said? Didn't say it was a warzone or anything like the guy your pic is referencing.
>>2067994ok that's cool and all but who is this viral "bus girl"?
>>2067994Awful place
>>2068341Is he a giant or is that bus very small? I can't tell.
>>2068341Both Chicago and NYC have nice areas and not so nice areas. I am not an expert on criminology or whatever, so I can't say who can learn what from whom. What I can say is that if you have no reason to venture into the dangerous parts of Chicago, your only exposure to lawlessness will be taking the hobo villages on rails aka the train, and that's mostly a disgust reaction not a genuinely dangerous situation.St. Louis and Chicago, like every city, has dangerous areas and rich areas. The difference you are citing is a technicality that makes no difference in real life. So what if St Louis dangerous parts are St Louis Proper and the safe parts are in the burbs. It seems to me you are just experiencing the "conservative guy scared of cities" effect, because you see the densely populated areas on the north side, and you associate density with fear.If you don't want to go to Chicago that's great, I don't care, it's your life not mine. I'm just pointing out the lack of rationality in your response.
>>2068346Spoiler: they didn't actually find her
>>2067994yeah your read on Chi is definitely ignorant.the L contains some of the few 24 hour metro lines in the US, so it is already far above decent. yes there are poors and crazies but if you dont give them attention they dont bother you. worst i've seen was when i was 19 and crazy lady yelled anti-semitic slurs at my friends polish gf from across the train. we moved cars and pretty much forgot about it before end of the night."least safe cities to bike" by who? it's not jazzed up by colored paint bike lanes but that's not going to do a thing for you. it's nice and flat, so you can comfortably commute across much of chicago on an old junk bike. i'd rather bike there than seattle with its painted bike lanes that swap from right to left side of the road block by blockmajority of shootings are on the west side (black ghettos). some on south side past hyde park (mixed race urban decay). none in downtown, like i remember one time someone popped off a clip at buckingham fountain and it riled the news for a week, hilarious. you sound pasty white, if you stay around the other honkies in the loop, logan square, wrigleyville you wont get shot. maybe mugged once or twice but that happens in any city. honestly i think it's a good city to experiment going carless with. it's not an anti-car city, and will let you know if you have the resolve to go carfree completelyactually on second thought i hope you dont move there and chicago continues to remain the most affordable major city in usa, with the yuppies kept far away in skokie, winnetka, lake forest, glenview, naperville, etc>grew up/lived in chicago suburbs for 20 years with frequent trips to city
>>2067994been here for 9 years, I think it's a good city for getting around carless, I don't use a car. Some neighborhoods like humboldt park can kinda suck because there's no train nearby but there's still busses almost everywhere. Busses late at night like 2am come pretty rarely and some trains aren't 24h, they stop at like ~1am iirc.If you're worried about getting shot, it's pretty easy to avoid lol. Shootings do happen everywhere sometimes but for the most part it is concentrated into certain south and west side neighborhoods and it's almost always gang activity so it's easy to stay out of it.I live in the bridgeport neighborhood, depending on what you want to do for fun it's a bit out of the way from all the "hip" areas on the north side, but it's still cheap down here because all the hipsters are afraid of the south side, and there's a few main route busses and 2 train lines so it's easy to get anywhere. I'd say avoid anywhere more south than bridgeport or more west than humboldt/garfield park and you'll almost definitely be fine avoiding shooters.Also the fact that the city is flat as fuck terrain wise it's incredibly easy to bike around compared to other cities, the only inclines are over bridges. Once you bike around enough you'll figure out the routes to take that are less dangerous. I have a lot of friends who do bike messenger work and all of them have gotten into some kind of accident, getting doored and shit, but you'll figure out quick which streets are sketchidk what else you might wanna know but ama if you want
>>2068902>actually on second thought i hope you dont move there and chicago continues to remain the most affordable major city in usahonestly glad that the media portrays chicago as being way more dangerous than it is. I pay under a grand for my 2 bedroom apartment and that'd be absolutely impossible in NYC or LA
>>2068902>colored paint bike lanes but that's not going to do a thing for youI dare you to say that on reddit and get your account permanently suspended for "threatening violence" or "hate speech"
>>2068291Good luck with your bottom surgery >t. actual Chicagoan
depends if you are a man or a woman, and if you are brown
>>2069110>actual ChicagoanDuPage County isn't Chicago
>>2069124I live in the south loop SIR
>>2069132Is that what they're calling Hammond these days?
>>2069163Look I'm sorry you couldn't afford a $1100 edgewater studio and you had to move back in with your parents who don't affirm you. I'm sure you miss waiting for the train at bryn mawr with all your fellow fat troons but accepting objectively terrible conditions to own le chuds is a losing proposition anyway BJ is going to get blown out if he even bothers to run because people are sick of exactly the thing you're pretending doesn't exist
It sucks you can't really talk about crime/safety without things going the /pol/ route. It sucks you can't simultaneously be concerned for your safety but also have respect for shiity upbringings, mental health issues, etc. I feel like I'm not allowed to talk about crime with fellow leftists sometimes. >>2069182Pritzker? No. Johnson? Absolutely.
>>2069182I don't even live in Chicago you fake Chicago dweeb. Go ahead and cry about how "no one eats deep dish", I'm sure someone will be impressed.
>>2069183Unironic literal "how do you do fellow leftists" posting lolI didn't know Bari Weiss posted on /n/
>>2069193I know, you had to move back in with your parents. We already established this. Now go make your plastic bag troonshine or your chest hair is gonna start growing back.
>>2069194This is /n/. There's posters that touch grass on here.
>>2069196My parents are 4 hours away by plane. Why are you so obsessed with medical feminization procedures? If you live in Chicago you should be able to find a doctor to take care of that for you, instead of weirdposting about it on a congolese click language IRC channel.
>>2069200Just trying to relate to your lived experience
>>2069205There's a whole board for that, I'm sure someone can help you sort this out:>>>/lgbt/I hope you find yourself soon nonny!
>>2068259Lmao SIL women really are uglyMoved south for the cheap land and guns
R.I.P.https://abc7chicago.com/post/chicago-deadly-crash-man-bicycle-killed-2-women-hurt-hit-run-kedzie-63rd-streets-easter-sunday-police/18843161/
>>2069643he will get a 60$ ticket for ignoring the traffic signal and that's it. assuming they prosecute him at all
there was another todayhttps://abc7chicago.com/post/chicago-lawn-hit-run-crash-kills-damian-gomez-was-delivering-food-doordash-south-kedzie-avenue-family/18849149/
>>2069183>I feel like I'm not allowed to talk about crime with fellow leftists sometimes.as always leftoids are lacking self awareness
>>2069643>>2069825that SUV is out for blood and is painted red by the blood of his enemies (cyclists)
