https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2025/08/15/plastic-pollution-treaty-talks-stall/The multiyear attempt to curb global plastic pollution is at an impasse, with the U.S. set against the production limits that many nations see as the main solution.GENEVA — After spurning other global environmental efforts, the United States showed up in force in Switzerland for landmark plastic treaty talks — seeking a deal, the Trump administration said, but opposing the production limits that many other nations saw as the main solution.https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/aug/15/plastic-pollution-talks-geneva-treatyGlobal talks to reach agreement on a treaty aimed at ending the growing scourge of plastic pollution have collapsed, with no deal agreed and no clear path forward.Countries worked beyond Thursday’s deadline into the night and Friday morning, but remained deadlocked on the issue that has dogged talks since they were launched, amid fervent optimism, in 2022: whether to reduce exponential growth of plastic production and place global, legally binding controls on toxic chemicals used to make plastics.Several countries expressed bitter disappointment, sadness and anger that the Geneva talks had, after the sixth and final round of negotiations, failed to reach a deal. Despite the deadlock, they said they would carry on with a resumed session in the future.
Pollution smells like money. The capitalist paved paradise, and puts up a parking lot. The capitalist then uses the money that he made from this act and visits a real paradise and breathe in fresh air. Capitalist are going to have bad air in hell though very sulfurous or so I'm told
I can understand not believing in climate change. I think it's a fucking stupid stance that gets stupider by the day, but whatever. But not believing in pollution? Thinking we just should give a shit about not polluting at all? What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>1427085he's an orange supremacist, white people on the other hand are the new roofers, coalminers and smelters
>>1427085They think they'll be too rich to be affected and will make money right up to the bitter end. Who cares about their kids or grandkids, they'll die rich right before the earth chokes and that's good enough
mmm ... smells like freedom to me.
>>1427068>no you can't produce plastic for the environment>just ignore all of asia that dumps plastic directly into the oceanAfrica would dump into the ocean too, but they're too lazy and just throw it on the nearby ground.
>>1427105>we should continue to destroy our natural environment because other countries do it too!Hey, I heard everyone is jumping off a bridge - why not join them too?
>>1427085We develop solutions to problems, and those problems fade away. Because people don't see the problem anymore, they question why the solution has to continue to exist. Much like someone who prematurely stops taking their medicine as soon as symptoms disappear, only for the disease to come back immediately Basically we live in a generation of tearing things down rather than building things up
>>1427130The government used to codify these concepts with laws, or that how it was before it became popular to shit on the government.
>>1427085climate change =/= pollution.Climate change initiatives are money laundering schemes. They've created an unfalsifiable problem that they assert requires infinite money to solve.Also, China doesn't care about anything you care about. For every libshit bitching about climate change, there are fifty chinese fishing boats dumping their nets into the ocean.
>>1427154While I am a strong supporter of the concept of not shutting where you sleep, and also fully support just wanting to live in a clean fucking environment, you are pretty damn correct in your statement: "Climate change initiatives are money laundering schemes"Most of the climate change stuff that is being used to "solve" climate change is bullshit. So Amazon or Microsoft pay X million in "carbon credits" to offset their data centers? Please, it's bullshit. Burying some poop in Brazil doesn't suddenly undo the climate effects of a multi gigawatt data center.We need to stop burning the dead bodies of dinosaurs, for one. One of the few things I actually agree with trump on is his EO to remove barriers to build more nuclear generators in the US. I wish we would get behind solar more domestically, especially with domestic production but we are honestly going to have to change a lot to be industrially productive again as a society
>>1427154>Climate change initiatives are money laundering schemes. Who tells you these things and why do you believe them?
>>1427155>you are pretty damn correct in your statement: "Climate change initiatives are money laundering schemes">Most of the climate change stuff that is being used to "solve" climate change is bullshit.According to whom?
>>1427157>>1427156>Why dont you think that paying extra money makes Amazon and Microsoft carbon neutral!??Have you ever looked into what carbon credits are actually used for?Sure, on paper everything is balanced and Amazon somehow emits no carbon emissions, but in reality that's not true at all, is it?
>>1427157>>1427156This is the literal bullshit you are arguing for: https://www.techradar.com/pro/microsoft-just-spent-usd1-billion-on-sh-t-thats-going-to-be-buried-and-thats-for-a-very-good-reasonMicrosoft paid $1b to bury shit for 12 years because on paper it makes their new AI data center carbon neutral.The company that is burying shit for them is charging $350 per ton of carbon.Who do you think is financially motivated to do this without actually solving any emission issues? Why, both Microsoft and Burying Shit Global Inc. Microsoft gets good corpo points for paying $1b in carbon offsets, and Burying Shit Global Inc gets $1b to do work that isn't verified by anyone whatsoever.Meanwhile, the data center is still resulting in massive emissions.You know what would offset the potential emissions of the data center? Running it on solar, nuclear, or other clean energy
>>1427166you don't have to respond to retards who pretend capitalist compromise policies like carbon credits and subsidizing private health care plans are liberal policies
>>1427166you're right anon, if green energy isn't achievable overnight we might as well just give up. i'm sure you're a very successful person with this method of problem solving
>>1427156>climatologists make unfalsifiable claim based off statistical data (we can't accurately model the climate system of our planet, literally impossible)>the more alarmist the claim, the more money they get>biggest proponents of climate change initiatives are all invested in green energy >climate change further used to excuse mass immigration, police state dictates and/or initiatives to control the energy sector>the cleanest power source available (nuclear) is ignored while congress keeps shilling "WE ALL GONNA DIE IF WE DON'T PRODUCE A GRAZILLION SOLAR PANELS!" and destroying water tables with heavy metals>billionaires like Bill Gates are jerking themselves off about 'combating climate change' while building massive data centers that need literal reservoirs of water to cool them None of it makes sense, fam.
>>1427166>Who do you think is financially motivated to do this without actually solving any emission issues?Why do you think "techradar.com" says it's a good thing?>Running it on solar, nuclear, or other clean energyLet me laugh even harder.>>1427170> (we can't accurately model the climate system of our planet, literally impossible)You're not answering the question. Who told you that and why did you believe them?
>>1427170The truly amazing feat is convincing you people that green energy are alarmist scammers and not the oil industry.
>>1427173They keep saying the sky is going to fall in 10 years, every year. That's the basis for all of their funding.>IT'S GONNA COOL>IT'S GONNA GET HOT>THE POLAR ICECAPS ARE GONNA MELT>WE NEED SOLUTIONS NOW!Bro, it's been this way since the 70's and nothing has changed.
>>1427174>nothing has changedLOL. how childlike of you. just cover your eyes and it'll all be okay
>>1427174>They keep saying the sky is going to fall in 10 years,No they really don't. That's a BigOIl talking point.
>>1427180Okay. What's the cost effectiveness ratio of climate change funding actually combating climate change?
>>1427174You people keep making this argument and I don't know why. All of that is happening, you can fucking see it. Like, I can understand it from a retarded anti-science perspective when the effects were still decades away, but we're way past that point. It's not a gotcha when climate scientist are being proven fucking right.
>>1427181Ask ChatGPT moron
>>1427181>>1427193>Despite the complexities in measurement, available evidence indicates that investments in both climate change adaptation and mitigation are cost-effective and yield significant benefits. These investments not only reduce the risks of climate change but also generate economic opportunities, improve health, and foster sustainable development. The costs of taking action are far outweighed by the potentially catastrophic economic and social consequences of inaction
>arguments ranging from "just trust me bro" to unironically quoting an AI created tech oligarchs that are sucking up all available fresh water to fuel their datacentersThis truly is hell
>>1427181do you actually think a price can be set on the securement of human civilization's survival
>>1427197The AI is much more trustworthy than the regurgitated BigOil talking points in >>1427174 and >>1427170
>>1427197>The costs of taking action are far outweighed by the potentially catastrophic economic and social consequences of inactionThis makes you seethe so much because it runs contrary to your NPC programming given to you by the industries which have the most to lose from it. The term "climate change" was introduced by Frank Luntz during the 2004 election to cast doubt in the minds of weak willed morons like you.https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2003/mar/04/usnews.climatechange
>>1427199>The AI is much more trustworthyAren't you just saying that because you like what it's telling you?
>>1427203as opposed to you? you seem to prefer your own false reality
>>1427203Do you think it's lying because you don't like the answer?
>>1427202>This makes you seethe so much because it runs contrary to your NPC programmingBelieving in climate change is the normie opinion right now retard. Point of fact, oil companies are the ones shilling climate change the most because they are trying to fight back against nuclear power.Go to any major oil companies website. They very explicitly tell you climate change is real and that we all need to fight back against it at any cost. >but anon, why?Because nuclear has reached maturity as an investment. It produces fucking water vapor as a byproduct and runs forever. It's the perfect energy source.
>>1427211it should be illegal to have opinions as retarded as yours. at least the mentally retarded can't post online
>>1427211>Believing things that are true is the normie opinion right now retard.hurr durr>Go to any major oil companies website. They very explicitly tell you climate change is real and that we all need to fight back against it at any cost. They had no choice in the face of overwhelming evidence after spending 1970-2010 denying it.>Because nuclear has reached maturity as an investment. It produces fucking water vapor as a byproduct and runs foreverJesus christ you're too retarded to be posting on this board.
>>1427211Who misled you?
