>20 million votes gone from 2020to 2025
>6x standard deviation
>All showed up overnight and conservatives weren't allowed in during the counts
Wild

Isn’t this just diebold rebranded?

>>1427479
Stop repeating Sidney Powell's lies.
>>1427483
No.

>>1427479
>https://youtu.be/OxNoUnxN_cs
>Speaking to this group of mostly Chinese immigrants, Bannon explained US electoral processes—and Trump’s plans to exploit them—in some detail. He emphasized that in 2020, Republicans were more likely to vote in person, casting ballots that, in many states, would be counted first. Democrats disproportionately voted by mail. Their ballots would take days to tally in a number of states. That meant that when it came to public perceptions about who was winning, Democrats would “have a natural disadvantage,” Bannon said. “And Trump’s going to take advantage of it. That’s our strategy. He’s gonna declare himself a winner.”
You literally have Steve Bannon in leaked audio explaining the Trump's whole election fraud scheme to Chinese media people and you still believe these despite all of people involved admitting it was a lie.

>>1427479
>>1427488
pwn3d.

>>1427488
>>1427499
Doesn't address the blatant fraud
>Bu bu but Trump
Democrat ESL shills

>>1427486
The funny thing is that even Trump thought that Powell's claims were crazy.

>https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.252.0.pdf
>pg. 44
>While CC3 [Powell] responded, the defendant [Trump] placed the call on mute and to P7 and P45 mocked and laughed at CC3 called her claims “crazy” and made a reference to the science fiction series Star Trek when describing her allegations,”

>>1427501
What's there to address? Those aren't proof of fraud.

>20 million votes gone from 2020 to 2025
Sometimes people vote less in elections. 4 million less people voted for Trump too in 2024. Does that mean that Republicans added 4 million votes in the 2020? It's also retarded to believe that democrats could rig the entire 2020 election while out of power but couldn't do the same in 2024.

>All showed up overnight and conservatives weren't allowed in during the counts
People knew ahead of time that mail in votes were going to swing democrat. I posted a clip of Steve Bannon pointing out that even Trump's team knew this. So why do you believe people who knowing admit to lying about everything?

>>1427503
Yeah so did Tucker Carlson and other Fox News hosts. But Newsmax is known for being so batshit crazy they make Fox look like a legitimate news station.

An election so safe and secure dems need to sue every news agency saying that fraud exists.

>>1427512
>dems
Dominion and Smartmatic are private corporations. Or are you saying that you should be free to lie about whatever you want with no consquences?

>>1427516
>Or are you saying that you should be free to lie about whatever you want with no consquences?
They already proved they want that during the pandemic.

shills having another meltie since reality didn't conform to their delusions

We are at /news/con 4 - expect a thread complaining about trannies and scattered non-sequitors about CHAZ throughout the week

>>1427516
>private corporations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_action
>In United States constitutional law, state action is an action by a person who is acting on behalf of a governmental body, and is therefore subject to limitations imposed on government by the United States Constitution, including the First, Fifth, and Fourteenth Amendments, which prohibit the federal and state governments from violating certain rights and freedoms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilling_effect
>n a legal context, a chilling effect is the inhibition or discouragement of the legitimate exercise of natural and legal rights by the threat of legal sanction.[1] A chilling effect may be caused by legal actions such as the passing of a law, the decision of a court, or the threat of a lawsuit;
>or the threat of a lawsuit
>or the threat of a lawsuit
>or the threat of a lawsuit

>>1427520
I lol'd because it's true

>>1427516
You seem to have a problem with it when Trump sues though

>>1427521
https://apnews.com/article/giuliani-new-york-disbarred-81b327f9ab1f98548cb888f8e652c9a8
https://sos.ga.gov/news/kraken-cracks-under-pressure-sidney-powell-claims-no-reasonable-person-would-conclude-her
The people who invented the conspiracy theory you are repeating not only disavowed it, but are laughing at you for still believing it.

>>1427524
>conspiracy theory
Did election companies sue the fuck out of the free press, yes or no

>>1427521
>state action is an action by a person who is acting on behalf of a governmental body
Dominion and Smartmatic aren't acting on behalf of the Democratic party or the government. So where is the chilling effect from private companies doing this?

>>1427523
Because those are actual examples of chilling effects? Donald Trump suing Iowa pollster Seltzer is a great example:

>https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69476247/trump-v-selzer/

He sued and then dismisses his own case.

>>1427529
>Chilling effects
Retarded Democrat shill buzz words detected. Into the trash, shill.

>>1427529
>a company that is conducting ballot tabulation on behalf of the US government isn't acting on behalf of the US government
lmao shut up

>>1427530
Did you mean that for >>1427521, you absolute fucking retard?

>>1427530
Your own MAGA-ally brought up chilling effects first, retard: >>1427521.

>>1427531
>contractors are acting on behalf of the government
Can you show where the goverment directed dominion to sue Fox/Newsmax? Weird how you can't prove that, but there's plently of proof of those companies admitting those claims were knowingly false (thus meeting the definition of defamation).

>>1427527
>did election companies sue the fuck out of the free press, yes or no
So no one is ever allowed to sue the press?

>https://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/02/donald-trump-libel-laws-219866
>Donald Trump: We're going to 'open up' libel laws
Weird how you support the candidate that not only sues the press more than anything else but actually wants to expand the current laws to make it easier to due. The obvious answer is the reason why someone is suing is more important than a simple we should/shouldn't be allowed to sue the press.

>>1427534
>directed
That's not how this works.
If you're providing a service on behalf of the government as a private entity, you are a state actor, which means you are constrained by the same limitations that the government is.
You wanna know why Powell and co. admitted guilt? Because they knew they couldn't win. It was literally the government suing on behalf of the government, which would have required the government investigating itself for any wrongdoing, which it obviously wouldn't find if the fucking government committed election fraud you goddamned retard.

>>1427538
How many independent audits do you need?

>>1427537
>So no one is ever allowed to sue the press?
You're retarded, so I'll explain how political repression in the USA works.
If you say something the government doesn't like, and they can't find any legal avenue to ruin your life (FBI, IRS etc) they will use a private, third party company to attack you personally.
Example: Trump recently passed an EO stating that banks couldn't discriminate against private customers for their politics.
The reason for this is because members of congress (read: democrats) were petitioning the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to debank people they didn't like. Not just shitheads like Fuentes or whoever, but christian churches and oil companies.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Financial_Protection_Bureau
Look at who was responsible for the idea.
>The agency was originally proposed in 2007 by Elizabeth Warren while she was a law professor and she played an instrumental role in its establishment.

>>1427527
> “While the loss of the Senate due to her lies will have ramifications for years, I most sympathize with those who believed her in the first place and who she now considers not reasonable enough to realize she should not have been taken seriously.”
lmao

>>1427542
Joe Biden won fair and square, and you're still seething about it five years later.

>>1427544
I'm not seething nigger, I'm telling you why Trump is going through dem controlled institutions with a hatchet.
Your soft communism has no place in America anymore.

>>1427542
apparently they just let schizos write whatever nonsense they want on the internet

>>1427538
>if you're providing a service on behalf of the government as a private entity
This is even funnier when you realize that Trump was in charge of the government at the time. How is it that Dominion is a "state actor" yet it disagrees with the government?

>You wanna know why Powell and co. admitted guilt? Because they knew they couldn't win
>https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.238720/gov.uscourts.dcd.238720.84.2.pdf
>the defendant (Giuliani) does not contest that the statements were false
They literally admit in court documents that they are lying. Which is funny considering the truth is an defense against defamation.

>>1427545
nah, you're seething and making up trash because you're a loser being used by rich white men
cheering on Trump making America worse isn't going to fix the problems with your soul
keep chimping out though

>>1427542
>they will use a private, third party company to attack you personally.
That sounds pretty serious. Do you have communication records of the government ordering these companies to do this?

>>1427551
All the communications records, including those by the banks refusing to open accounts for right wingers and churches, and including Biden admitting to being on Epstein island, and the negative record proving that Trump never raped kids.
You can't see any of them though. You need to have faith.

>>1427553
>>>/x/

>>1427486
Diebold sold off their voting shit to Dominion

>>1427601
So? They weren't the same machines.

>>1427606
Diebold cheated but Dominion totally wouldn’t.

>>1427612
Diebold didn't actually cheat but I'll acknowledge there were unproven allegations.

>>1427612
Diebold didn't need to cheat when the 2004 election was overseen by a Republican in Ohio who fudged the numbers and the 2000 election was rigged by Republicans in Florida who stopped the count early.
https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/analysis/Ken_Blackwell.pdf
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/jan/29/uselections2000.usa

>>1427548
>How is it that Dominion is a "state actor" yet it disagrees with the government?
You can act on behalf of the federal government and still disagree with the federal government.
By the by: the race riots + censorship about Hunter biden's laptop were conducted by the FBI and CIA using psyops developed in the 80's to prevent Trump from winning the election.
>https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP86M00886R001300010029-9.pdf

>>1427639
loser

>>1427639
>the race riots
J6th was a singular event

>>1427639
>you can act on behalf of the federal government and still disagree with the federal government
By definition, if you're disagree with the federal government, you are not acting on behalf of the government. Your goals are completely unaligned at that point.

>censorship about Hunter biden's laptop were conducted by the FBI and CIA
>https://twitterfiles.substack.com/p/1-thread-the-twitter-files
>22. Although several sources recalled hearing about a “general” warning from federal law enforcement that summer about possible foreign hacks, there’s no evidence - that I've seen - of any government involvement in the laptop story. In fact, that might have been the problem...
As you can see from the twitter files themselves, what an amazing psyop it was that the CIA got twitter to only block linking article for a mesely 24 hours without giving them any direct instructions.

>>1427613
>I'll acknowledge there were unproven allegations.
Someone was able to access their voting machines and change the tallies
https://archive.is/rKB2H
This was reported back when it wasn't taboo to report on the dangers of electronic voting

>>1427642
>10. Both parties had access to these tools. For instance, in 2020, requests from both the Trump White House and the Biden campaign were received and honored. However:
And I always forget that Trump's own government requested twitter take down things do (which they did). Yet MAGA has no issue with that.

>>1427642
>By definition-
You've never heard of a public servant that hates their job?
Lying faggot.
>As you can see from the twitter files themselves-
They did it for years, going back to 2018 to prep Americans with an open conflict with Russia.
Retards will argue that the CIA is working with the Trump admin.

>>1427646
>you've never heard of a public servant that hates their job
What does hating their job have to do with anything? Either they are A.) doing the job the government tells them to do (meaning they are acting on behalf of the government) or B.) not doing the job, meaning they are not acting on behalf of the government?

>they did it for years
They did what? Warn Americans that Russians were meddling in their elections, which is factually true? Read the Mueller report.

>>1427643
>Someone was able to access their voting machines and change the tallies
>Some election officials have called Harris, a 53-year-old mother of five and a self-employed publicist, a wacko, a conspiracy nut and even a threat to democracy for her role in raising the controversy.
Some things never change

>>1427648
>What does hating their job have to do with anything?
The democrat rat has difficulty comprehending government organization as anything other than a communist hive-mind of transgender women.
>They did what?
You quoted the Twitter files, didn't you read them idiot?
There was a dedicated team of government agents from the DHS and CIA who spent time curating profiles across social media. Pro-russian profiles were systematically pruned, pro-ukrian russians were elevated, and accounts of Americans who were vehemently anti-war were banned.
The decision for America to get involved in a war with Russia was decided before the 2020 election was decided. And it was facilitated by a nation-wide censorship campaign by our intelligence agencies.

>>1427648
>Read the Mueller report.
My favorite part was when he concluded that there was no evidence the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government, completely btfo'ing everyone who was spewing Democrat talking points.

There's still russiagate truther conspiracy theorists out there if you can believe it

>>1427652
you try so hard

>>1427652
You know other than the several campaign members who got arrested and convicted for lying to congress about their contact with russian assets and intelligence.

>>1427650
The twitter files didn't mention anything about anti-war posts getting banned

>the decision for America to get involved in a war with Russia was decided before the 2020 election was decided
It must have happened back in 1994 when the US signed the Budapest Memorandum and gave security declarations to the Ukraine. Did the Deep State know that that time it was going to go war with Russia right after the communist USSR failed (and good riddance)?

>>1427652
I know you haven't read it because that's not what the Mueller report says at all. In fact, several people on Trump's campaign team were arrested precisely because they were colluding with the Russians (Manafort and a few others)

>https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/dl?inline=
>Fourth, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment. The evidence we obtained about the President’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that prevent us from conclusively determining that no criminal conduct occurred. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him

>>1427656
It wasn't that they got arrested either. People like Manafort plead guilty to all the crimes brought forth.

>>1427652
Go back and look again. He found evidence of people surrounding Trump and involved with Trump all connected with the Russian government, but was unable to find anything directly tying Trump, due to everyone being uncooperative and protecting him refusing to sell him out. He couldn't do anything more without gaining cooperation from the supreme court, which was thrown out.

>>1427658
>The twitter files didn't mention anything about anti-war posts getting banned
Cool, thanks for confirming you didn't read them.

The only people that have ever profited from sucking up to tRump are his family and his close friends. And most of that profit is from crooked stock market deals. Everyone else that has got close to him has been badly damaged monetarily and reputationally

>>1427662
Have you?

>https://x.com/mtaibbi/status/1603857609118859264
>let us know if you decide to take any actions against these accounts
>we've completed our review and taken the following actions on some of the accounts

It turns out they merely suggested (not even forced) twitter suspend some accounts and Twitter didn't even follow through with all of them. This is the giant government censorship regime you're complaining about?

>>1427666
>merely suggested
You sound like an autist who just watched Goodfellas and didn't understand the nuanced social interactions that led to characters getting wacked.

>>1427667
>some of the accounts
>some
So why didn't twitter ban all of them if it was a thinly veiled threat?

>>1427668
obviously the deep state can't ban ALL of them, or else it'd be too obvious to prove the deep state exists

>>1427669
>else it'd be too obvious to prove the deep state exists
Those were private emails neither twitter or the FBI thought would ever see the light of day. No one knew about the list.

>>1427670
yeah, but if you bring that up it makes it seem like the whole thing was made up to fuel the conservative persecution complex

>>1427668
>thinly veiled
When the government asks you to do something, it isn't an ask. See: congress dragging zuck before them and threatening him.

>>1427672
>when the government asks you to do something, it isn't an ask
>https://youtu.be/-Fo_yD8r3w4?t=4922
>Ms. NAVAROLI. We had received a request from the White House to make sure that we evaluated this tweet, and that they wanted it to come down because it was a derogatory statement directly toward the President.
>Mr. CONNOLLY It was Donald Trump because he didn’t like what Chrissy Teigen had to say about him. Is that correct?
>Ms. NAVAROLI. Yes, that is correct.
By the way, this is my favourite example because not only did Trump's white house ask twitter to remove a tweet that was insulting him (what a baby), but twitter didn't even remove the post in question! I thought the government asking Twitter to do something is legally binding that will cause you to end up in jail if you don't agree.

>>1427661
I love how the shills completely ignore this every single time.

>>1427509
Why are you pretending to have a relevant opinion of what goes on in a white Christian country?

>>1427716
Donald Trump is the least white and Christian president ever.

>>1427686
I don't think anyone on the right cares about results anymore, its all about how they perceive the investigation.
Dozens of panels that went nowhere on Benghazi, Email Servers, Bursima, Hunter's laptop, but they were told those were important investigations so they think everyone is guilty despite the lack of results.
Mueller jails multiple people and ends with a conclusion that there's trails to follow with Trump, they just couldn't investigate fully under their mantle? That investigation was bad, so the results are memory holed and thats that.

Its why the shill is so fixated on CHAZ and the George Floyd protests - they were told they were bad, and they can't understand why reality didn't charge them all the imaginary felonies in their head

>>1427754
>I don't think anyone on the right cares about results anymore
No, you just keep lying all the time, so nobody trusts the things you say anymore.
You've lied so much, and so often, that you cannot keep track of your own lies.
I can only assume that anything you write in response to this post will be a lie, too.
I literally watched people die in BLM and democrats said it was a peaceful protest. Anybody who identifies that that party is doing nothing more than putting a badge on their shoulder that says "I lie on behalf of the state".

>>1427755
if you were a good shill you wouldn't copy all the criticism levied at you and repurpose it, because it doesn't even make sense when you do. too bad you're not even good at shilling

>>1427755
>I literally watched people die in BLM and democrats said it was a peaceful protest.
You mean like how Republicans say that J6 was a peaceful protest because there's a few security cam footage of people wandering around despite the fact that you have videos like this:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXn_wPjWPrA

Meanwhile Biden is here condemning violence after some of the BLM protests got violent. When have either you or Trump condemned J6 in any capacity?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfiZy4xvhu4&t=96s

>>1427757
>b-but republicans said..!
Democrats literally supported the largest race riots in history, the state backed media defended them, and anybody who tried to defend themselves during that 'summer of love' was crucified by the state, chilling both the right to self-defense and free speech in America.
This is the party you vote for. These are the leaders you support. And that is far worse than anything that happened during J6.

>>1427759
Truth

>>1427757
>Meanwhile Biden is here condemning violence after some of the BLM protests got violent. When have either you or Trump condemned J6 in any capacity?
If killing 29 people and causing over $1b in damages is justified to protest the death of a criminal, then a day of graffiti, congressional selfies, and smashing some windows is justified to protest a rigged federal election

>>1427761
>downplays again
Reminder just because Trump pardoned you doesn't mean you aren't treasonous rats.

>>1427759
>Democrats literally supported the largest race riots in history
>anybody who tried to defend themselves during that 'summer of love' was crucified by the state
I posted video evidence of Biden condemning any rioting. Do you acknowledge that one can support a protest without supporting rioting/violence?

>and that is far worse than anything that happened during J6
>https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/jury-convicts-four-leaders-proud-boys-seditious-conspiracy-related-us-capitol-breach
The Proud Boys were planning to overthrow the US government (several of them even plead guilty) as was Trump with the Eastman plot.

>>1427761
>if killing 29 people and causing over $1b in damages is justified
How are those justified when Biden condemned them?

>>1427762
>downplays
generous, they're legitimately confused about what happened in both events or are just deliberately lying to shill.
Either way, they're not worth talking to

>>1427762
the shills here aren't even american, they're glorified bots who post the same script ad infinitum

>>1427763
>if killing 29 people and causing over $1b in damages is justified
>How are those justified
I agree BLM was unjustified I'm glad we agree for once

>>1427766
you sure want to derail this thread about right wing treason being factual

>>1427767
>literally "it's only okay when we do it" -tier argument

>>1427767
They're having a mental breakdown
For now they're trying to cope over everyone agreeing the BLM protests were mostly peaceful, J6th was a riot, and that most people think Ashley Babbit was rightfully shot and George Floyd shouldn't have died.

>>1427768
you suck at your job, faggot shill. you need new material

>>1427766
The rioting and property damage were unjustified but the protesting (which was the majority) was not. People were allowed to protest the 2020 election too. But the main actors of J6 (Trump, his staff, the proud) were planning a seditious conspiracy to overthrow the US government and willing to accept violence to effectuate their ends.

That's the difference between the two.

>>1427763
>I posted video evidence of Biden condemning any rioting.
Biden accused Rittenhouse of being a white supremacist before any facts of the case were out. The state later questioned his decision to invoke the fifth as a testament to his guilt.
>The Proud Boys were planning to overthrow the US government
Biden actually did overthrow the US government. He used the CIA, DHS and FBI to violate the first amendment. Free speech is integral to any functioning democracy.

>>1427772
stop being such a faggot. nobody cares about your terrible shitposts

>>1427771
>The rioting and property damage were unjustified but the protesting (which was the majority) was not.
Yeah until 'protestors' surrounded your car, broke your windows, dragged you out, and then cried to the press that they were only defending themselves.
Nobody seriously believes that the protests were peaceful. Those that do are retards who compare a few soccer moms holding signs on a street corner to the literal fire-bombing of hotels. Portland's mayor had his building set on fire but he was still saying that the protests were peaceful because that was the democrat shill line at the time.
There's a lot of things that should've happened during those protests that didn't.

>>1427773
You're a traitor to the United States.

>>1427775
you can stop derailing the thread with your thoroughly exhausted talking points shill. and you should probably get a real job

>>1427772
>The state later questioned his decision to invoke the fifth as a testament to his guilt.
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29-M1TJCoRs
He was ultimately acquitted and Biden supported the decision. I also think this is funny considering Trump's views on taking the fifth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM0UjN6qsKs

>He used the CIA, DHS and FBI to violate the first amendment. Free speech is integral to any functioning democracy.
So Trump did too then ( >>1427684)? Doing something unconstitutional is not inherently overthrowing the government either in this context.

>>1427776
you're literally not american and your life is humiliating. imagine being paid poverty wages to lie and pretend to be white. sad!

>>1427778
>He used the CIA, DHS and FBI to violate the first amendment.
This shill is mentally unhinged

>I saw a sign at a federal park asking that I kindly pick up after myself. Unpaid labor is slavery, I can't believe some sick government fuck is violating the 13th amendment like that!

>>1427778
>He was ultimately acquitted
Doesn't matter. The president was purposefully trying to interfere with the trial.
Even though it was the most clear-cut case of self-defense in US history, the state still tried to convict him because they didn't want people shooting rioters in state-backed riots.
>Doing something unconstitutional is not inherently overthrowing the government
You can't have a functioning democracy without the ability to criticize your government and say what you want. It's literally impossible because free speech is intrinsically tied to the will of the voters. 1A violations don't just censor words, they purposefully interfere with the lawful exercise and expression of the will of the people in the democratic process.

>>1427782
>Even though it was the most clear-cut case of self-defense in US history,
LMAO no it wasn't.

>>1427782
sir this is a thread about newsmax lying

>>1427775
>Portland's mayor had his building set on fire but he was still saying that the protests were peaceful
>https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/under-fire-how-he-handled-protests-portland-mayor-says-he-n1239927
>he has expressed support for protesters demanding racial equality but cautions against using violence during marches.
Why is it that for all of these examples, there are examples of the people in question condemning violence and rioting?

>>1427783
It was literally recommended not to prosecute him at all because it was so cut and dry and the state refused

>>1427787
you're literally a faggot who cannot stop lying

>>1427782
>the president was purposefully trying to interfere with the trial.
The state adjudicates whether self-defense was valid or not. How are you still mad when the trial ended the way you wanted to and Biden didn't interfere once the decision was made?

>criticize your government and say what you want
And yet you weren't arrested during the Biden years despite all your criticism. How curious.

>>1427786
>saying that the protests were peaceful
Thank you for your concession

>>1427786
Saying "I condemn X" means fuckall when someone is still financially and institutionally supporting the riots.

If you're mayor of Portland, and someone burns alive in a car fire after you've already told the cops to stand down, it doesn't really fucking matter what you say.

>>1427791
same thing with insurrections, anon.

>>1427790
If he believes protests are entirely peaceful, why is he condemning violence? He believes that the majority of the protest was peaceful, which was generally true. Even in a riot, 95% of the crime is usually done by 5% of the people.

>>1427791
>you've already told the cops to stand down
He authorized the police to use tear gas. That's not standing down.

>>1427789
>The state adjudicates whether self-defense was valid or not
The AG has the decision to prosecute. They chose to do so, even after the entire thing was captured on film and he surrendered himself to the police, while letting violent criminals back out onto the streets to victimize American citizens.
The fact that you're even arguing about this tells me you're not a serious person. You're an idiot at best, a traitor at worst.
>How curious.
I was put on a watchlist because I criticized the Biden admin's decision to force Americans to vaccinate to work, while letting millions of browns flood the country without needing to show proof of vaccination themselves.
Because apparently the state needed to fuck with my DNA for me to access a restaurant, but having the appropriate melanin content entitled immigrants to live right next door to me and receive state benefits.
Sure is weird how so many people keep dying from myocarditis now.

>>1427793
>He authorized the police to use tear gas.
Arsonists deserve to be shot, retard.

>>1427795
since you are responsible for the constant flamewar here, we can shoot you too right

>>1427793
>If he believes protests are entirely peaceful, why is he condemning violence?
too dumb to breathe

>>1427794
>I was put on a watchlist
We're getting closer to the truth.
C'mon, what did you actually do?
Because everyone else knows you're lying to make yourself look better, and it definitely isn't because you just refused to get the vaccine.

>>1427794
>The fact that you're even arguing about this tells me you're not a serious person.
And he was acquitted, which I supported. Why are you against the justice system giving you the verdicts that you want?

>I was put on a watchlist
So you weren't arrested and you can continue to speak and vote.

>Sure is weird how so many people keep dying from myocarditis now.
>https://www.jacc.org/doi/abs/10.1016/j.jcin.2025.01.213
You can see it going down in recent years.

>>1427795
That's not "standing down".

>>1427800
struck a nerve, huh?
c'mon, tell us all what you did to make the government angry at you
Did you threaten to rape someone at work when they asked you to get a shot?

>>1427798
blue on blue anon

>>1427800
>>1427802
lmao shill melty

>>1427801
the rightwing shill you responded to second probably did, but the first post caught a stray from you

>>1427799
>he was acquitted
This doesn't refute the rights violations that the state committed against innocent people during that summer.
The prosecution literally flagged the jury box with his fucking firearm, but none of you seem to understand what jury intimidation is.
>That's not "standing down".
Politicians have a positive duty to defend the rights of the people living under their care. Letting rioters burn shit and hurt people is tacit support of the riots.

>>1427805
it's funny how you pretend to care about the right of citizens in cities while simultaneously supporting a president who is militarily invading cities unconstitutionally

>>1427805
c'mon, tell us all what you did to make the government angry at you
did you cause a scene at the restraunt when they wouldn't sit you, and get dragged away while calling the cops trannies and screaming about how they deserve to be assfucked?

>>1427805
>but none of you seem to understand what jury intimidation is
Do you honestly believe that he was trying to threaten the jury into voting a certain way rather than trying to make statement in bad taste?

>letting rioters burn shit and hurt people
Tear gas is one of the most effective ways to disperse a riot. It's also less expensive and easier to use than rubber bullets.

>>1427805
>Letting rioters burn shit and hurt people is tacit support of the riots
So we should be chasing down all the MAGA fuckheads supporting people who set fires and hurt people at our capital building on J6th?

>>1427811
>>1427805
Why can't we all just agree that neither Jan 6 nor BLM rioters should have been rioting, although from an objective quantitative standpoint the BLM riots caused more deaths and financial damage than the j6 riot?

>>1427823
because you are literally paid to lie about how ok the january 6th failed coup was and you'll never be objective about it

>>1427826
>Your paid to disagree with me!!
Any other made up arguments?

>>1427827
did i make up your existence here today, shill? i must be pretty impressive

>>1427794
>I was put on a watchlist because I criticized the Biden admin's decision to force Americans to vaccinate to work, while letting millions of browns flood the country without needing to show proof of vaccination themselves.
Nah anon you were put on a watchlist because you're a schizo who keeps proclaiming how the entire Biden admin needs to be hanged for treason.

>>1427823
>although from an objective quantitative standpoint the BLM riots caused more deaths and financial damage than the j6 riot?
BLM only caused more in the absolute sense because J6 was so short.

>https://www.npr.org/sections/insurrection-at-the-capitol/2021/02/24/970977612/architect-of-the-capitol-outlines-30-million-in-damages-from-pro-trump-riot
The actual attack on J6 lasted only 3 hours and in that time caused 30 million dollars of damage, so roughly 10 million per hour.

>https://finance.yahoo.com/news/damage-riots-across-us-cost-003556082.html
>between May 26 and June 8 [...] the insurance price tag to approach $2 billion
Meanwhile, the BLM protests caused 2 billion dollars worth of damage over over 336 hours, so roughly 6 million per hour.

As you can see, if it went on longer (and the Eastman Plot had succeeded), it would have very likely caused more damage and death, if not a civil war.

>>1427838
>between May 26 and June 8 [...] the insurance price tag to approach $2 billion
>Meanwhile, the BLM protests caused 2 billion dollars worth of damage over over 336 hours, so roughly 6 million per hour.
Anon, BLM wasn't rioting every hour of every day. You are comparing the actual time spend rioting from j6'ers to mostly time spent sleeping, eating, and doing daily life stuff. In that time period when did people actually riot? Idk, let's be generous and say 8 hours every day each evening? So $6m/hr becomes actually $18/hr

>>1427477
>two million extra votes show up during a time in which all restriction to prevent voter fraud have been erased with the excuse of covid, those two million extra votes have never been seen in a election before or after

this is somehow to complicated for demonrats (not really they just pretend, they are that dishonest.)

>>1427932
BLM was large enough that there could protests/riots at pretty much any point of the day (especially because Covid meant a lot of people were out of jobs).

>>1427974
>especially because Covid meant a lot of people were out of jobs
just because you got fired because of a racist anti-vaccine rant doesn't mean regular Americans were.

>>1427981
>racist anti-vaccine
Huh?

>>1427838
NTA, reminder that Jan 6th had no arsons and the only side shooting people was the police shooting an unarmed white woman (once again, no police brutality outrage for her).

So I don't know how you got
>it would have very likely caused more damage and death
>death
When the J6 rioters didn't kill anyone at J6.

Also
>if not a civil war.
Worth noting again that democrats aided actual secession with the CHAZ zone, giving "aid and comfort" to the hostile takeover of US land and nobody was charged with insurrection.

>>1427988
My favorite part of the Biden regime was when Biden sent the FBI and CIA to raid the homes of businesses and journalists.
>there's no censorship bro
>chain of custody bro
>Ashley's diary was stolen bro, why are you still talking about this?
Bootlickers, all of them. Especially after J6.
Six months of bedlam was fine until the riots reached the shores of Capitol Hill. Traitorous cunts.

>>1427988
The police gave multiple warning to Ashley Babbit. Weird how that's an example of police brutality; maybe you have more in common with BLM than you think.

>When the J6 rioters didn't kill anyone at J6.
Not for a lack of trying. Several officers were violently attacked on that day with weapons and were struck in the head as a result.

>democrats aided actual secession with the CHAZ zone
>https://komonews.com/news/local/seattle-police-clearing-chop-area-after-durkan-issues-executive-order
>Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan (Democrat) issued an executive order in the predawn hours Wednesday, essentially declaring CHOP over and authorizing police to clear the streets
Meanwhile, Trump didn't even authorize the national guard, because he actually supported the riots.

>>1427990
>https://www.npr.org/2023/01/21/1150617734/the-doj-searched-bidens-home-and-found-more-classified-documents
Did Biden order the the DOJ to raid his own home too?

There's objectively more censorship now under Trump with him threatening to targeting/revoke Media's news licenses than under Biden.

>>1427988
Ashley Babbit deserved to die
George Floyd deserved to live
You will seethe eternally over this.

>>1427992
>The police gave multiple warning to Ashley Babbit. Weird how that's an example of police brutality; maybe you have more in common with BLM than you think.
The difference is we don't riot for an entire year and burn down as much of the country as we can whenever there's a "justified" police shooting. So nice try implying I have anything in common with the Antifags who blocked roads and pointed guns at drivers in Indianapolis over Dreasjon Reed, who was killed by police after shooting at police with the same gun he livestreamed a drive-by with. But I digress.

>Not for a lack of trying.
And yet nobody shot a cop at J6... Can't say the same for BLM. The score is still 0 to 1, so your argument that there would've been more deaths over time if J6 was longer is interesting when you realize you're multiplying by 0.

And as for your last part, who provided water, toiletries and medical supplies to CHAZ while keeping police out and threatening Trump with legal action if he intervened? Y'know... "aid and comfort"... that phrase I heard so many times when they tried to block Trump from running in the last election.

That and your mayor only issued the order after two black teenagers were executed by LARPing commies inside CHAZ... the same that were protesting police brutality against minorities?

>>1427994
The feds raided Biden's home because democrats spent an inordinate amount of time trying to prevent Trump from running on the basis that he mishandled classified documents. Whereas Biden actually had them sitting in his garage while was VP.
When the DOJ looked into the case they literally said that Biden was too feeble and retarded to be successfully charged under federal law. That was his defense.

>>1427994
Forgot to respond to
>objectively more censorship now
Biden had Merrick Garland designate parents as domestic terrorist threats after they got mad that a public school system covered up the repeated rapes of students by a transgender student.

right wing media sure does fry brains, i tell ya hwut

>>1428000
>He said Nazis were good people!
>He crossed state lines with an assault rifle!
>He had his hands up and told the cop "Don't shoot" before they executed him!

>>1428003
yep, your brain is mush. thanks for the confirmation

>>1428004
Keep getting your facts from left wing media like MSNBC. It makes it so much easier to deal with.

>>1427998
It was a special prosecutor, which is separate from the DOJ.

>Biden was too feeble and retarded
That was one argument among many about why they wouldn't prosecute him. If you actually seen it, you would know that it also says:
>https://www.justice.gov/storage/report-from-special-counsel-robert-k-hur-february-2024.pdf
>pg. 237
>We do not believe this evidence would meet the government's burden at trial to prove Mr. Biden knew his handling of the notebooks broke law. We expect Mr. Biden's defense would be that he thought his notebooks were his personal property and that he was allowed to take them home after his vice presidency, even they contained classified information. Enough evidence supports this defense to establish reasonable doubt.
>And we expect the evidence of Mr. Biden's state of mind to be compelling clear, forceful testimony that he did, in fact, believe he was allowed to have the notebooks.

I also think it's interesting you complain about Trump but even the report you jerk off so much points out how the two cases are completely different. Just possessing classified documents is not a crime by itself in most cases. It's the willful retention.
>pg. 254
>Most notably, after being given multiple chances to return classified documents and avoid prosecution, Mr. Trump allegedly did the opposite
>He not only refused to return the documents for months, but he also obstructed justice by enlisting others to destroy evidence and then lie about it
>In contrast, Mr. Biden alerted authorities, consented to the search of multiple locations, and in numerous other ways cooperated with the investigation

>>1428005
Why do your strawmen always watch boomer cable channels?

>>1428005
>can only think in false equivalencies
you just keep proving that you're a buffoon anon. keep going why don't you

Ashley was unarmed trying to crawl through a window. She did not need to be shot. I do not belong to any party and I do not agree with violence.

>>1428009
god you suck at your job shill

>>1427999
>Biden had Merrick Garland designate parents as domestic terrorist threats after they got mad that a public school system covered up the repeated rapes of students by a transgender student.
>https://www.justice.gov/archives/ag/file/1170061-0/dl?inline=
Where are the they called terrorists in this memo? They point out that threatening public official is illegal.

>https://www.c-span.org/clip/house-committee/user-clip-justice-department-oversight-hearing/5011743
>I want to be clear, the Justice Department supports and defends the First Amendment right of parents to complain as vociferously as they wish about the education of their children, about the curriculum taught in the schools
>That is not what the memorandum is about at all, nor does it use the words domestic terrorism or Patriot Act. Like you, I can’t imagine any circumstance in which the Patriot Act would be used in the circumstances of parents complaining about their children, nor can I imagine a circumstance where they would be labeled as domestic terrorism.
You can even see that Garland later even clarifies his stance.

So you think she deserved to die?

>>1428007
Because they're the ones pushing the dumb shit I referenced earlier
>He said Nazis were good people!
>He crossed state lines with an assault rifle!
>He had his hands up and told the cop "Don't shoot" before they executed him!
That leftists take as gospel and can't be bothered to fact-check any of it.

I do love how the left-wing likes to brag about how much smarter they are than the right-wing - more college degrees, higher IQ, white collar professions, etc. - but are too retarded to use a search engine before calling Rittenhouse a nazi.

>>1428013
Are you the same retard ignoring that multiple cops were beaten unconscious during J6th, and that one died from beating?
No one cares what a shill says, faggot

>>1428011
There were no threats. It was based on a letter from the national school board association, which has since been retracted and profusely apologized for.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS6Al-2FEBk

I do not agree with J6. It was wrong. But Ashley did not need to be shot.

>>1428012
it's a shame right wing propaganda poisoned her mind and led to her death, but being at the head of an angry mob storming the capitol should have a predictable end to anyone in their right mind

>>1428014
>and that one died from beating?
You mean the one that a top doctor in D.C. confirmed was from natural causes?

>>1427997
>And yet nobody shot a cop at J6...
>they bashed a guy's head in with a fire extinguisher, contributing to his stroke a day later, but they didn't shoot at them so it's okay
There were also several pipe bombs discovered in the area. They was definite intent to kill people.

>who provided water, toiletries and medical supplies to CHAZ while keeping police out
>https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/protests/businesses-provide-supplies-black-lives-matter-capitol-hill-chaz/281-4eca7314-fcc8-426d-b631-80d600a92bf0
Looks like it was local businesses, not the democrats.

>>1428017
>but being at the head of an angry mob storming the capitol should have a predictable end to anyone in their right mind
Now apply that same standard to May 30th, 2020.

>>1428018
It was later clarified that it contributed.

I agree but like you said in their right mind. And she also said she was not. I agree with your contradictory statement. But couldn’t she have been pistol whipped, tasered, etc?

>>1428020
being upset by a lynching and trying to overturn the government will never be equivalent, even the 1,001st time you bring it up shill

>>1428019
>There were also several pipe bombs discovered in the area.
Oh do elaborate more on this.

>>1428024
>https://www.foxnews.com/us/fbi-continues-search-january-sixth-pipe-bomb-suspect-three-years-us-capitol-riots-five-hundred-thousand-dollars-reward

>>1428025
Not talking about J6, goalpost mover.

They say three officers died as a result of j6. The other are said to have committed suicide

>>1428015
You claimed they were labeled as domestic terrorists yet the original memo did not say that. There can be both threats and a published letter.

Wasn’t this thread about Newsmax. Lol

>>1428026
Amazing how the same FBI that dropped the hammer on everyone that was at Jan 6th, and even those that weren't at Jan 6th, with all the search warrants, interviews, surveillance, no-fly lists, detainments, and all the powers they used to investigate and arrest thousands still can't find this suspect... but we know for sure he was with the Jan 6th crowd.

>>1428031
it's no longer amazing how obnoxious you floorshitting faggots are

>>1428031
>he wasn't part of the January 6th crowd because that would destroy my narrative!
Even without the bombs, you had people attacking police officers and calling to hang Mike Pence. They wanted violence, so why is a bomb out of the ordinary for that crowd?

>>1428033
>He was part of the Jan 6th crowd?
>How do you know?
>Uh...

>so why is a bomb out of the ordinary for that crowd?
For the same reason that the use of firearms were out of the ordinary for that crowd. If they were serious about "taking over the government" and not just a bunch of pissed off rioters, Babbitt wouldn't have been the only one shot.

>>1428035
or right wing media and the worst president in history riled up a bunch of idiots who realized at the last second they didn't want to get shot for their orange grifter

I think the most ironic thing is that Trump campaigned on getting rid of criminals and then pardoned all the j6’ers

>>1428035
>He was part of the Jan 6th crowd?
He was either part of J6 or not. And there's a large greater chance that he was given the actions of the crowd on that day.

>If they were serious about "taking over the government"
>https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/jury-convicts-four-leaders-proud-boys-seditious-conspiracy-related-us-capitol-breach
The proud boys plead guilty to seditious conspiracy, so they clearly were. The actual mechanism to take over the US government was through the Eastman memos/fake electors.

It’s not even funny how we allow the “powerful” to get away with so much everyday but god forbid one of us poor peasants do anything wrong.

>>1428038
>He was either part of J6 or not.
So not. If they can catch Luigi in less than a month, they could've caught him with all the leeway FBI was given to go after Jan 6th rioters.

>The proud boys plead guilty to seditious conspiracy, so they clearly were.
First off Enrique Tarrio wasn't even at Jan 6th when it happened. Second, even the FBI during the Biden years admitted that the overwhelming majority there didn't have any plans to take over the government. You're giving me four people out of over 30,000 people? By that standard, every BLM protest was filled with molotov-throwing anarchists that wanted to shoot people.

>>1428043
>it was a mostly unseditious riot

>>1428044
93% were peaceful, nigga.

>>1428029
>the original memo did not say that
The memo advised state, local and federal prosecutors about all of the potential legal actions they could aim directly at parents concerned about the school covering up rapes. It described at least thirteen different crimes they could be charged with for merely voicing their opinions in front of public officials.

The point being, it's obviously bad that the Biden admin was trying to chill free speech over a very serious issue.

>>1428043
>they could've caught him with all the leeway FBI was given to go after Jan 6th rioters.
>because the FBI didn't catch him, he wasn't part of the crowd! No, I don't have to prove it
>https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/3-years-jan-6-numbers-1200-charged-460/story?id=106140326
By the way, plenty of people on that day didn't face criminal charges. Even by your own numbers of 30,000 people, roughly 2000 people were charged. Plently of people escaped justice on that day due to the simple fact that the FBI is not omniscient and cannot solve every crime.

>First off Enrique Tarrio wasn't even at Jan 6th when it happened.
He was planning the conspiracy.

>You're giving me four people out of over 30,000 people
The main actors (Trump, the Proud Boys, Oathkeepers, etc.) wanted to overthrow the government. That's why J6 was an seditious conspiracy/insurrection.

>>1428050
I linked the original memo: https://www.justice.gov/archives/ag/file/1170061-0/dl?inline=
It doesn't say any of that.

JANUARY 6TH WAS A DAY OF PEACE AND LOVE!! SLEEPY JOE CAUSED THE VIOLENCE. BUT NOW I AM BACK. THE BEST LEADER IN ALL OF HISTORY EVEN BEFORE HISTORY BEGAN….Now go back to being quiet little slaves everyday until you’re lucky enough to retire comfortably

>>1428051
and sure, most of the idiots in the crowd weren't being violent but they still started chanting "stop the count", so clearly they were on board with usurping democracy

>>1428051
>By the way, plenty of people on that day didn't face criminal charges.
For the same reason "93% were peaceful" at BLM protests.

>The main actors (Trump, the Proud Boys, Oathkeepers, etc.) wanted to overthrow the government. That's why J6 was an seditious conspiracy/insurrection.
So, once again, by your own standard the extreme minority of people define the entire movement. Therefore everyone who committed violence, especially arson and murder, represent BLM.

>>1428058
you're too dumb to understand the difference, anon. sorry. i know you'll keep being retarded for the rest of your life but you've lost the privilege of being taken seriously long ago

I think we can all agree that most protesters are not violent no matter what they are protesting. Otherwise we would have a lot more dead people and it would be easier for me to stock my fridge with fresh meat. Lol

>>1428052
>It doesn't say any of that.
Do you think Josh Hawley is mistaken? Or are you lying?

>>1428058
It's not an extreme minority when one of them is heading your entire movement and those same "peaceful" protestors cheered when those same violent insurrectionists got pardoned. That's the difference. Mainstream democrats condemned any violence from retarded rioters when BLM happened and saw it as regrettable. Meanwhile, you revel in J6's destruction and wish more happened that day.

Let’s just hope Trump passes power peacefully in a few years. But most likely he will do something crazy to get a 3rd term and J6 will seem like a paper cut

>>1428068
>It's not an extreme minority when one of them is heading your entire movement
By telling them to "peacefully and patriotically" protest.
>and those same "peaceful" protestors cheered when those same violent insurrectionists got pardoned.
As I did too. Don't get me wrong, the Jan 6th crowd were retards and we had an impeccable record of not acting like leftists until they fucked it all up... that said there was a clear double-standard on enforcement against the right vs left.
>Mainstream democrats condemned any violence from retarded rioters when BLM happened and saw it as regrettable.
Like Maxine Waters encouraging further violence and Kamala pushing a bail fund for BLM rioters - not to mention everyone on the squad encouraging physical violence against Republicans (Booker, Holder, Tester, etc.).
>Meanwhile, you revel in J6's destruction and wish more happened that day.
Wrong. I'll elaborate on what I said earlier:

Prior to Jan 6th you couldn't point to a single example of right-wingers rioting the same way the left was. All you had was individual lone-wolf attacks like that Charleston driver. But mass looting and arsons, smashing up small business and attacking cops in the streets? That was the left's game. The only thing that even came close was Proud Boys beating the shit out of Antifa, and they backed off when cops showed up. And the last time anyone on the right tried something similar to CHAZ was Bundy's family taking over a cabin in some state park in the middle of nowhere - the police shot and killed one, wounded the other. Which shows the disparity between how the left gets coddled and the right gets crushed by our government. Speaking of crushed, look at the response to the right over Jan 6th and compare it to the response to the left on May 30th 2020.

Nonetheless, nobody told those at Jan 6th that only the left can get away with rioting.

>>1428071
tldr faggot

>>1428071
>not to mention everyone on the squad encouraging physical violence against Republicans (Booker, Holder, Tester, etc.).
Examples?

>>1428071
>By telling them to "peacefully and patriotically" protest.
While he attempted to stay in power by pressuring Pence via the Eastman plot. That was the whole point of J6. Regardless of any violence that happened, Trump gathered a large crowd to cow Pence to accepting his fraudulent electoral slates to stay in power. And clearly he has no issues with violence given that he pardoned them all when he could have easily just pardoned the non-violent ones.

>Kamala pushing a bail fund for BLM rioters
Donating to a bail fund is not the same as encouraging violence. People donate to them because they feel people are being wrongfully detained, not because they want them to go out and commit more violence.

>everyone on the squad
A handful of democrats with zero political power that even members of their party like Pelosi hate. Two of them were even recently primaried in the most recent election. Meanwhile, Republicans love extreme candidates right now, to the point where it hurts their electoral chances in general elections not involving Trump.

>>1428076
>Booker: "Get up in the face of some congresspeople."
>Holder: "When they go low, we kick them.”
>Tester: “I think you need to go back and punch him in the face." (him = Trump)

>>1428071
>Prior to Jan 6th you couldn't point to a single example of right-wingers rioting the same way the left was.
>All you had was a series of individual lone-wolf attacks like that Charleston driver.
Yeah, like every school shooter, you retarded shill

>>1428078
so you don't understand the english language

>>1428077
>And clearly he has no issues with violence given that he pardoned them all when he could have easily just pardoned the non-violent ones.
I would agree with you had the FBI arrested a small number of people like they did with May 30th (Only ONE person charged with a crime) or CHAZ (30+ arrested), but since the number was grossly disproportional at over 1,500 people I would've also thrown my hands in the air, said fuck it, and pardoned them all because I don't have the goddamn time or patience to review each individual case.

And don't come at me with pardons after the bullshit Biden pulled - who even still has the record for more pardons than Trump and he only served one term.

>Donating to a bail fund is not the same as encouraging violence.
Yeah okay anon. Not sending a message at all on where you stand. I'm sure you felt the same way for the people who donated to Rittenhouse.

>A handful of democrats with zero political power
Because they had no power last term? lmao get the fuck out.
>Meanwhile, Republicans love extreme candidates right now,
Any of them encouraging physical assault against fellow politicians?

>>1428081
you should stop posting forever. everyone hates you

>>1428079
>Yeah, like every school shooter, you retarded shill
What was Seung-Hui Cho's political party?

>>1428081
>I don't have the goddamn time or patience to review each individual case.
>I can't have a staff member look into this or get a recommendation from someone else I trust, so I'm going to be lazy
Of course.

>who even still has the record for more pardons
Biden granted most of his clemency (not a full pardon) to a series of non-violent criminals who had already left prison by that point.

>I'm sure you felt the same way for the people who donated to Rittenhouse.
I was fine with people sending money to him. I already said before that I was fine with the verdict of the case.

>Any of them encouraging physical assault against fellow politicians?
Republicans right now are advocating for several people to be tried for treason, the punishment for which is death.

>>1428085
bro, if you have to go back 20 years to find one school shooter who wasn't a conservative dickbag...

>>1428089
I figured I'd start with the worst school shooting.

>>1428092
And you decided to ignore Uvalde because?
just kidding, I know Uvalde blows most conservative arguments about school shootings out completely

>>1428088
>I'm going to waste time, energy, manpower, etc. sifting through over 1,000 cases so I can hold myself to the higher standard that democrats demand but can't hold themselves to.
lmao fuck off.

>No it was okay what Biden did because most were non-violent!
Again, fuck off. I don't want to hear shit about pardons after he gave blanket pardons for people who weren't even charged with crimes (how is that legal?).

>I already said before that I was fine with the verdict of the case.
Good for you for being the exception. Regardless what Kamala did was clearly taking a side.

>Republicans right now are advocating for several people to be tried for treason, the punishment for which is death.
So no, none are. Furthermore when is the last time we killed someone for treason? And I'd love to argue how General Milley committed treason at least twice ... but alas, he was given a blanket pardon by Biden (again, miss me with that bullshit).

>>1428095
>so I can hold myself to the higher standard that democrats demand but can't hold themselves to.
Plenty of Democrats condemned Biden for pardoning his own son. But you've made your disgusting mentality so clear. Every time you think a Democrat has broken a norm, you justify sinking even lower. Republicans have never once held themselves to a higher standard.

>so no, none are
>https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-accuses-obama-treason-oval-office/story?id=123963917

>I don't want to hear shit about pardons after he gave blanket pardons for people who weren't even charged with crimes (how is that legal?).
>And I'd love to argue how General Milley committed treason at least twice ... but alas, he was given a blanket pardon by Biden (again, miss me with that bullshit).
You've shown exactly why. Trump running around trying to claim the pardons are void because of an autopen. You're all craving to prosecute and hang these people.

>>1428097
>are these republicans encouraging violence?
>n-no, but they want people to be charged with treason!
That's not what I asked, but please keep moving the goalpost.

>You're all craving to prosecute and hang these people.
When was the last time we hung someone for treason? You know what, I'm fucking getting tired of asking so I'll just look that up for you. Let's see... 1862. And that was during a war. Wonderful.

>>1428100
Your example of Kamala Harris encouraging violence was encouraging her followers to donate to a bail fund. Meanwhile, Republicans are pardoning violent criminals and putting them into the government (just see Trump's new pick for the BLS). When their was attempt made on Donald Trump's life, all mainstream Democrats denounced it. Where were the responses when that Minniostian democrat was assassinated? Where was the sympathy when Nancy Pelosi's husband got attacked? Nowhere. You all just made up conspiracy theories about the events and laughed about it.

>when was the last time we hung someone for treason?
Why do you keep deflecting like this? Even if it hasn't happened in a while, it's what you all obviously want. Don't you want to bring America back to its glory days? You brought back the Aliens Enemies act from the 1700's. Don't sit here and lie.

>>1428103
>Your example of Kamala Harris encouraging violence was encouraging her followers to donate to a bail fund.
>I'm just going to ignore all these other examples he gave of democrats encouraging violence like Maxine Waters or Booker or Tester
Still waiting for you to show an example of these "extremist Republicans" telling their voters to go out and punch democrats.

>Why do you keep deflecting like this?
>LMAO projection

>Even if it hasn't happened in a while, it's what you all obviously want.
And where did I say this? In the thread, I could care less about the voices in your head.

>Don't you want to bring America back to its glory days? You brought back the Aliens Enemies act from the 1700's. Don't sit here and lie.
As much of a racist, white supremacist, KKK card-holding member as I am, even I know that finding Obama guilty for treason and hanging him is very bad optics. So no, I don't want that. You can stop projecting and get back to answering the question I asked you, or just keep sperging out to other random shit.

>>1428108
>still waiting for you to show an example of these "extremist Republicans" telling their voters to go out and punch democrats.
>https://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-tells-crowd-to-knock-the-crap-out-of-protesters-offers-to-pay-legal-fees/
>There may be somebody with tomatoes in the audience. So if you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously. Okay? Just knock the hell— I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees. I promise, I promise. It won’t be so much ’cause the courts agree with us too.
Here's Trump telling his followers to punch people with tomatoes and offering to pay their legal fees. But I thought paying legal fees for violent offenders was the worst thing a politician could do! Surely you'll condemn this.

> I could care less about the voices in your head.
>https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-executes-rivals-b2390452.html
>https://newrepublic.com/post/179852/gop-candidate-michele-morrow-obama-execution
It's what you (Republicans) want. And you (personally) would go along with it if it happened and not condemn it. Notice how your only complaint is the optics of the situation.

>>1428110
>Surely you'll condemn this.
Sure, it was a dumb thing Trump said. Not on par with the dems I quoted, but I'll give you that one so you'll shut the fuck up and be happy.

>Marjorie Taylor Greene
Ugh... and even then I notice she didn't tell anyone to commit violence. And you were giving me shit about the squad earlier?

>Michele Morrow
Literally who? She's not even in congress. She's a candidate. You know you're grasping at straws when you have to pull this one out of nowhere.

>It's what you (Republicans) want.
I mean you can keep saying that all you want. At this point I've said I don't too many times, so there's no convincing you.

>And you (personally) would go along with it if it happened and not condemn it.
Someone like Milley needs to be in jail for treason, but not executed. If we're giving only 2 year sentences to people who sell secrets to China then I don't see the death penalty happening anytime soon. Especially since we haven't used it in over 100 years.

>Notice how your only complaint is the optics of the situation.
No. You made a dogshit accusation that I wanted to go back to the "glory days" of America (what timeline is that again?), and I explained how even I don't want Obama executed... which hasn't stopped you from acting like a retard, yelling "NUH UH U WAN HIM DEAD DURRRRRRR I'M A FUCKIN FAGGOT"

>>1428112
Notice how you haven't posted the quotes in question. And why was it a dumb thing for Trump to say? Isn't violence bad? Or does Trump not have a problem with violence as long as it benefits him?

>I don't see the death penalty happening anytime soon
>https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/jd-vance-violent-jan-6-rioters-shouldnt-receive-pardons-rcna187329
You people literally said the same thing for pardoning J6 rioters. "We just want to pardon the non-violent ones who were unfairly prosecuted, not the ones who assaulted police officers!" two weeks before. Then Trump pardons all of them too and you all change your tune to "well it's too hard to go through all of the cases". Next it will be: "we want to give the Democrats all trials, but it's too hard to go through all of them one-by-one, so let's just declare all of them guilty!" and so on and so on.

>Marjorie Taylor Greene
>She's a candidate
I specifically used those in reference to executing democrats not violence in general. Again, where are the Republicans condemning that kind of talk? You make this big stink about Democrats doing all this shit but don't care when your own party does it. Because you don't care and based anyway. I also find it funny you dismiss them as just as canditate and when the Republicans have been obsessed with that retarded socialist mayoral candidate for NYC.

>NUH UH U WAN HIM DEAD
I didn't say you personally want him dead. I said you'll stand by and won't condemn if it ever did happen. Because you don't actually care.

>>1428114
>Notice how you haven't posted the quotes in question.
Nigga are you blind?
>Booker: "Get up in the face of some congresspeople."
>Holder: "When they go low, we kick them.”
>Tester: “I think you need to go back and punch him in the face." (him = Trump)

>And why was it a dumb thing for Trump to say?
Because it gives fags like you a whataboutism to counter Maxine Waters.

>You people literally said the same thing for pardoning J6 rioters.
My stance has always been that the Jan 6ers should've got the same treatment as lefties on May 30th.
>Then Trump pardons all of them too and you all change your tune to "well it's too hard to go through all of the cases".
Again, my stance is getting the same treatment as the left.

>You make this big stink about Democrats doing all this shit but don't care when your own party does it.
Show me a Republican encouraging physical assault on democrats. No, a hypothetical of democrats being found guilty of treason and executed for that - which is something we haven't done in over 100 years - is not the same thing.

>I didn't say you personally want him dead.
>It's what you (Republicans) want.
Hmmm.

>>1428117
>Booker: "Get up in the face of some congresspeople."
Getting in someone's face is not assaulting them.

>Holder: "When they go low, we kick them.”
This is obviously a metaphor than an explicit call for violence

>Tester: “I think you need to go back and punch him in the face."
This one is ambiguous, but the full context "I don’t think even in states where Donald Trump won big that it does you any good running away from [him]", makes more likely he's speaking again metaphorically. And this aligns with other things he has said. Just look at what he said after the assassination attempt:
>https://dailymontanan.com/2024/07/14/tester-calls-for-investigation-daines-mourns-with-families/
>“I am appalled by this senseless act and am keeping those that were impacted in my prayers,” Tester said in the letter to the committee.

>Because it gives fags like you a whataboutism to counter Maxine Waters.
See? You don't care about the underlying matter of violence. Just the optics. 0 BLM rioters were pardoned of their crimes and plenty went to and are in jail. And last time I checked, Trump's comments happened before BLM, so what's his excuse? Again, you just lower than the democrats you accuse.

>Show me a Republican encouraging physical assault on democrats
>https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/31/politics/donald-trump-jr-paul-pelosi-reaction/index.html
>Trump Jr. shared an image on social media of a hammer and a pair of underwear with the words “Got my Paul Pelosi Halloween costume ready.”
Where is Jr's condemning political violence when it happens to a democrat?

>it's what you (Republicans) want.
You do realize that individuals can have opinions separate from the majority group they belong to right? Steve Bannon wants to increase taxes on wealthy people and he's a Republican but that's not a common opinion among Republicans. So clearly it's not a big deal for him because he's still a Republican.

>>1428123
>muh metaphors
Nice cop-out for every single one.

>See? You don't care about the underlying matter of violence. Just the optics.
I'm pointing out the annoyance of listening to you faggots complain about violent rhetoric, and then when I point out your side does the same shit you dismiss it all as 'oh they were just being metaphorical so it doesn't count'. What's that expression /pol/ uses all the time about crying out as they strike you?

>0 BLM rioters were pardoned of their crimes and plenty went to and are in jail.
Compare Jan 6th where one day of rioting led to 1,500+ arrested and charged, vs May 30th 2020 which lasted several days and only ONE PERSON was charged with a crime... a lousy destruction of government property charge. The only reason why "plenty... are in jail" is because they had "plenty" of riots.

>Where is Jr's condemning political violence when it happens to a democrat?
Oh I didn't know Donald Trump Jr. was a congressman. Congratulations to him. When did that happen? What district?

>You do realize that individuals can have opinions separate from the majority group they belong to right?
And yet you keep trying to lump me in with a group. "You're all craving to prosecute and hang these people." - That's you, faggot. Those are your words. Don't backpedal now.

>>1428264
>only ONE PERSON was charged with a crime
how are you this bad at lying? do better, shill

>>1428300
Show me who else was charged for May 30th. Not arrested. Charged. I'll wait.

>>1428331
show me that you can use your brain, i will not wait, you cannot use your brain

>>1428264
>muh metaphors
So when Trump said you had to "fight like hell or we'll lose your country", he was being literal and calling for his followers to literally fight? Weird how you seem to understand metaphors then.

>only ONE PERSON was charged with a crime
>https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-28/antifa-boogaloo-extremists-at-us-floyd-protests/12388260
>police have made 14,000 arrests in 49 cities since the protests began in late May

>Oh I didn't know Donald Trump Jr. was a congressman.
Republicans spend years riding Hunter's ass yet now Jr is now off-limits? Nevermind that he is creating a private influence peddling club (https://www.realtor.com/news/unique-homes/don-trump-jr-executive-branch-club-home-georgetown/). But even his father and other Republicans got in on the action, mocking him and spreading conspiracy theories. Meanwhile, democrats will fire random staffers if they say the wrong comments after Trump's assassination attempt. The parties are not the same.
>https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2023/09/29/trump-mocks-hammer-attack-on-pelosis-husband-in-incendiary-speech/
>https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrat-staffer-fired-hedious-comments-172200877.html

>And yet you keep trying to lump me in with a group.
You only don't want to hang Obama because it's "bad for optics". That's not a principled stance against anything.

>>1428342
>"fight like hell or we'll lose your country"
And he got so much shit for that from the left whining about violent rhetoric. ONCE AGAIN, I have the privilege of pointing out your hypocrisy. You'll whine and bitch about what Trump says, then dismiss every action your side takes.

Either hold your side to the same standards or shut the fuck up.

>https://www.abc.net.au
And how does your shitty Aussie link debunk that ONLY ONE PERSON was charged with a crime over May 30th?

>police have made 14,000 arrests in 49 cities since the protests began in late May
I know reading is hard but I'll try again:
>The only reason why "plenty... are in jail" is because they had "plenty" of riots.
I'm trying to make this as simple as I can for you... With the way the left got away with so much... and the right got curb-stomped by the FBI... If Jan 6th had as many riots as the right did, half the country would be in jail.

I don't know how I can make any simpler the disparity of enforcement against the right vs the left.

>Republicans spend years riding Hunter's ass yet now Jr is now off-limits?
Moving the goalposts yet again! I'm not even going to bother.

>You only don't want to hang Obama because it's "bad for optics".
>You want to hang Obama!
>You don't want to hang Obama because it makes you look bad!
Can you make up your fucking mind?

>>1428357
>If Jan 6th had as many riots as the left did
Derp.

>>1428357
Everything you don't agree with is fake, huh?

>And he got so much shit for that from the left whining about violent rhetoric
Because literally directly afterwards J6 fucking happened and he didn't do anything to stop it and has never apologized. Meanwhile, all these democrats using "violent" rhetoric say that violence has no place when Trump almost gets assassinated. Again, the double standards here are insane.

>Moving the goalposts yet again! I'm not even going to bother.
I literally pointed to Donald Trump making fun of attack, but you can't defend that so you'll ignore it. Here's Kari Lake:
>https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/arizona-gop-nominee-kari-lake-mocks-attack-paul-pelosi-campaign-event-rcna54960

>Can you make up your fucking mind?
It's obvious. You internally so fucking badly want to hang Obama but know that saying that will defeat your whole argument, so you pretend that your mere concern is about the optics of the situation.

>>1428366
>You internally so fucking badly want to hang Obama
lol so we're back to me wanting to hang him again. Love it. You are such a fucking schizo you can't even make up your own mind about what I want, despite me telling you multiple times. It's unreal.

>>1428373
I did change mind mind because it's obvious now that you're just a fucking snake. You never said you don't want it happen -- you deflected and justified that it hasn't happened in a while and it would look bad for optics. Again, what you really don't want is the bad image that would come from hanging Obama. If you could hang Obama with good optics, you would 100% do it.

>>1428384
>You never said you don't want it happen
>As much of a racist, white supremacist, KKK card-holding member as I am, even I know that finding Obama guilty for treason and hanging him is very bad optics. So no, I don't want that.
>So no, I don't want that.
>no, I don't want that.
>I don't want that.
>don't
>You never said you don't want it happen
>So no, I don't want that.
Holy mother fucker....

>>1428393
>hanging him is very bad optics. So no, I don't want that.
>so no, I don't want that [bad optics]
Are you dense? I'm saying you're being a snake in your wording here.

>>1428400
Hey anon... I'm going to say this one last time. So pay attention as hard as you can:

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I literally cannot make this any simpler, so if you still don't get it then I give up.

>>1428404
Because it looks bad. Not because you don't think he deserves it. Not because you think it sets a bad precedent. Because you think it will make you lose votes.

>>1428417
Welp I tried. There's not enough alcohol in the world to put up with your insufferable bullshit. It's like talking to a brick wall. I'll leave you with one last parting shot before I leave the thread, feel free to ignore it like you've ignored everything else.

I do not want Obama dead, regardless of optics, votes, etc. To my knowledge, he hasn't done anything that deserves death, so even if I could have him killed at zero consequence I still wouldn't do that. I have that morality.

Can you say the same for Trump? If you could have him killed with zero consequence to yourself or your party, would you? I think we all know the answer to that. And that ladies and gentlemen is the difference between right and left. Keep crying about violent rhetoric as you wish for his death every day. I'll enjoy the moral high ground while Trump continues to make you seethe just by existing.

>>1428434
>if you could have him killed with zero consequence to yourself or your party, would you
No on a moral level firstly, because I believe that the death penalty should only be reserved for criminals who do not behave in jail. Even on a practical level, I am thankful for Trump because he's electoral poison and such a weak and ineffectual leader. If you all had gone with DeSantis, you probably would have gotten a 400+ Electoral College landslide victory with 90% of the your favourite MAGA policies being codified into law instead of hamfisted through as EOs all-the-while avoiding the truly retarded stuff that will sink you in the midterms like the tariffs.

>and that ladies and gentlemen is the difference between right and left
When the attempt was made against Trump's life, ever major elected democrat condemned the act, even the ones who used supposedly used violent rhetoric in the past and staffers got fired. When Pelosi's husband was attacked or the plot to kidnap Whitmer was uncovered, easily more than half of Republicans made jokes and spread conspiracy theories and have never apologized for anything.

>>1428459
>When the attempt was made against Trump's life, ever major elected democrat condemned the act, even the ones who used supposedly used violent rhetoric in the past
I know I said I'd leave the thread, but lol I just can't help it... They only said this for optics.

>>1428603
And half of Republicans don't care about optics at all. Which is why they spread conspiracy theories about Democrats after Trump almost or that Minnesotan legislator actually did get assassinated.